You should starve yourself and avoid any natural light for 48 hours to fully immersive yourself in it, ignore morons like
who will never be able to understand the difference between entertainment and reality
Bad guys? They were honorable soldiers just doing their jobs. Only the First Mate was a strong believer in the Nazi cause, and even he knew jack shit about the Holocaust.
And Most of the crew survived.
https://i.imgur.com/Ebq6Pez.jpg
What am I in for?
You should watch the full like 5 hour version to get the full effect. It really sells you on how the crew feels; you feel the same thing as them and that sells you on some key scenes where the captain makes decisions that would seem incredibly reckless to a person in their right mind.
Kriegsmarine had more dissent among their crews but they were more party aligned than the movie will have you believe. German War movies and shows have a reputation of making them non political to the point where ita not accurate. Even Germans are critical of it. Like the generation War tv show almost ignores nazi ideology.
Of course they aligned with the Nazi ideology to some degree, but it's like saying someone is a hardline Trump or Obama supporter just because they enlisted for the USN.
No American president has had the power or influence Hitler/Nazi party had, you can't make that comparison in my opinion
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FDR, Reagan, Obama, and Trump all had rabid cults of personality surrounding them. Not to Hitlerian levels, but it definitely was there.
The point I was making is that a lot of German mariners, although members and supporters of the party, more went into the war out of a general sense of patriotism than specifically out of support for Naziism.
Bad guys? They were honorable soldiers just doing their jobs. Only the First Mate was a strong believer in the Nazi cause, and even he knew jack shit about the Holocaust.
And Most of the crew survived.
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You should watch the full like 5 hour version to get the full effect. It really sells you on how the crew feels; you feel the same thing as them and that sells you on some key scenes where the captain makes decisions that would seem incredibly reckless to a person in their right mind.
>Bad guys
Less than room temp IQ here, boys.
The film took liberties with historical revision, you fricking homosexual. It made the submariners more "honorable" and ambivalent to nazism, when in reality 99% of all German submarines at the time were fervant nazis. have a nice day.
U-boat crews had the highest casualty rate of all German military. The Allies were using 1000 pound block buster bombs against U-boat pens at the time.
why didn't Jurgen Porchnow have a bigger career in america? He knew the right people and popped up in critically acclaimed movies in the 90s, so why did he not make it big?
>The bulk of the film's $15 million budget was spent on constructing U-boats. Specifications for the original Type VII-C U-boat were found at the Chicago Museum of Science and Industry. The plans were taken to the original builder of the subs, who was commissioned to build a full-sized, sea-going replica, their first such assignment since the war ended. A second full-sized model was built for interior filming.
The miniseries is better than the film. The monotony and tedium are part of the Odyssey. It's all part of feeling the exhaustion of the characters.
And I'm usually the guy saying 'this film needs a hatchet taken to it'.
this movie makes the submarine sailor work look like the most cucked job in the war >fire a torpedo >drop down >take a depth charge after depth charge hoping your pursuer gets bored of effortlessly shitting on you for hours on end before your hull breaks and kills everyone on board
these guys are supposed to be the predators but they look like prey most of the movie
That's because they were effective at the beginning of the war, but the Allies figured out how to run conveys with Destroyers and use anti-submarine doctrines pretty effectively soon afterwards.
Submarines weren't able to fight back at all against dedicated Destroyer convoys, all they had were their opening salvos, and then they had to run for their lives. It's just how it was.
Not to mention we had cracked their codes and knew what they were up to. The U-boats were subject to strict oversight at all times. Our subs in the Pacific simply went out to their assigned kill boxes and vanished.
The Germans launched over 700 submarines during the war. More than 500 were destroyed on their first voyage without having secured a single kill. Entire crew wiped out, of course.
They also launched the majority from 1943-1945 when it was clear that they had become ineffective.
Because subs wouldn't become truly viable underwater craft until the cold war with the invention of nuclear submarines that can stay submerged for days. Wartime Uboats could only go underwater for a few hours, and were painfully slow whilst underwater. They were only useful for a surprise opening attack.
>The film, as well as the book by Lothar G. Buchheim on which it's based, are both loosely adapted from the wartime career of the Type VIIC boat U-96, and its skipper, Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock. In late 1941, Buchheim, who was then a war correspondent in the German Navy's propaganda office, joined the crew of U-96 for one tour in the Battle of the Atlantic. This tour became the basis of Buchheim's book. (In the film, the character Lt. Werner is based on Buchheim.) During the war, Capt.-Lt. Lehmann-Willenbrock ranked seventh among U-Boat skippers in terms of shipping tonnage sunk (183,223 tons on three boats, the U-5, the U-96, and the U-256). After transferring to a new skipper, the U-96 was retired on 5 February 1943, one of the few U-boats to actually survive its tour of duty in the Atlantic. Far from being killed in an air attack (as depicted in the film), Lehmann-Willenbrock survived the war, and later served as captain on various German merchant cargo ships. Lehmann-Willenbrock and Buchheim both served as technical advisers for this film (although the volatile Buchheim fell out with director Wolfgang Petersen, who refused to let the author write the script based on his book). Lehmann-Willenbrock died in Bremen in 1986. Buchheim died in Bavaria in 2007.
>the volatile Buchheim fell out with director Wolfgang Petersen, who refused to let the author write the script based on his book
who was in the wrong here?
>Capt.-Lt. Lehmann-Willenbrock ranked seventh among U-Boat skippers in terms of shipping tonnage sunk (183,223 tons) >He survived the war and later served as captain on various merchant cargo ships.
must've been bizarre spending the rest of your life captaining the very ships you sent to a watery grave
this is my dad's favorite movie I think, at least top 5 for sure. he watches at least parts of it every couple weeks. he has it memorized I guess and I've caught him just watching without subtitles on. he doesnt know a lick of german.
A long, boring film that features the Germans doing ONE successful attack before spending the rest of the film retreating, and then ultimately getting killed. Red October was better.
Red October > Crimson Tide > Das Boot.
The only reason I hate Das Boot is because it pretended the submarine crew weren't actual nazis and painted them in an "uwu we're so innocent in these trying times of war T_T" light, as other anons have already pointed out.
I taught English to two Germans connected to this classic. One, an engineer at HDW in Kiel was a consultant on the film, the other knew Mahrholz, one of the two real life models for Prochnow's character, said he still played tennis in his 90s.
Kino
Absolute kino up until the stupid and ahistorical ending.
this. that ending was so shit
You should starve yourself and avoid any natural light for 48 hours to fully immersive yourself in it, ignore morons like
who will never be able to understand the difference between entertainment and reality
utter fricking plebs holy shit
>we're gonna die at the bottom of the mediterranean 🙁
>nvm we're saved! let's go home! 🙂
>*dies anyway in a port*
yeah nah it was shit
>the bad guys die
>bad ending
???
Bad guys? They were honorable soldiers just doing their jobs. Only the First Mate was a strong believer in the Nazi cause, and even he knew jack shit about the Holocaust.
And Most of the crew survived.
You should watch the full like 5 hour version to get the full effect. It really sells you on how the crew feels; you feel the same thing as them and that sells you on some key scenes where the captain makes decisions that would seem incredibly reckless to a person in their right mind.
Kriegsmarine had more dissent among their crews but they were more party aligned than the movie will have you believe. German War movies and shows have a reputation of making them non political to the point where ita not accurate. Even Germans are critical of it. Like the generation War tv show almost ignores nazi ideology.
Of course they aligned with the Nazi ideology to some degree, but it's like saying someone is a hardline Trump or Obama supporter just because they enlisted for the USN.
No American president has had the power or influence Hitler/Nazi party had, you can't make that comparison in my opinion
FDR, Reagan, Obama, and Trump all had rabid cults of personality surrounding them. Not to Hitlerian levels, but it definitely was there.
The point I was making is that a lot of German mariners, although members and supporters of the party, more went into the war out of a general sense of patriotism than specifically out of support for Naziism.
>Bad guys
Less than room temp IQ here, boys.
The film took liberties with historical revision, you fricking homosexual. It made the submariners more "honorable" and ambivalent to nazism, when in reality 99% of all German submarines at the time were fervant nazis. have a nice day.
>when in reality 99% of all the German military at the time were fervant nazis. have a nice day.
fixed
clean wehrmacht is a myth.
>when in reality 99% of all German submarines at the time were fervant nazis.
well then apparently the nazis weren't such bad guys.
cringe.
You didn't expect the Germans to lose the war?
>U-boat bombed at port in northwestern france
What is not historical about this?
The actual U-boat crew that inspired the novel and movie survived the war. And the British weren't bombing that port at that point in the war.
U-boat crews had the highest casualty rate of all German military. The Allies were using 1000 pound block buster bombs against U-boat pens at the time.
>go through all that just to be unceremoniously blown up as you arrive home
Anticlimaxes are great
>The Boot
>It´s about a submarine
>???
No wonder Germans lost 2 world wars, they can't do anything right
a submarine is a boat tho
boot kino
If you havent watched this with a drunk as frick german boomer dad you haven't fully experienced it.
mfw watching Das Boot
why didn't Jurgen Porchnow have a bigger career in america? He knew the right people and popped up in critically acclaimed movies in the 90s, so why did he not make it big?
Psychological thriller with better tension than any slasher or whatever horror film because of the added claustrophobia of the environment.
their commitment to filming inside an actual sub instead of a set paid off so hard, legendary movie
it was a set piece, although a very very big one
>The bulk of the film's $15 million budget was spent on constructing U-boats. Specifications for the original Type VII-C U-boat were found at the Chicago Museum of Science and Industry. The plans were taken to the original builder of the subs, who was commissioned to build a full-sized, sea-going replica, their first such assignment since the war ended. A second full-sized model was built for interior filming.
>a full-sized, sea-going replica, their first such assignment since the war ended
What happened to it?
They used it in the filming of Raiders of the Lost Ark.
yeah and it wasnt a real one, i was literally in the model they filmed in
I hope you're watching the mini series, op.
A real kino-trip
>ALAAAERRRMMMMMM
What vr is the best to watch? DONT fricking say the uncut series unless you truly believe that. Longer does not equal better.
M&C under the sea.
Chuds love it because "muh honor" and no women (gay)
Weren't there women in the opening scene at the party
An overhyped and boring movie. It's a bloated soap opera mini-series and it really shows. I'm tired of people pretending it's a masterpiece.
I can't believe homosexuals like you post on my board.
Get out of here, you dick-breath ass-gaping homo.
>Says the guy obsessed with seamen.
The miniseries is better than the film. The monotony and tedium are part of the Odyssey. It's all part of feeling the exhaustion of the characters.
And I'm usually the guy saying 'this film needs a hatchet taken to it'.
this movie makes the submarine sailor work look like the most cucked job in the war
>fire a torpedo
>drop down
>take a depth charge after depth charge hoping your pursuer gets bored of effortlessly shitting on you for hours on end before your hull breaks and kills everyone on board
these guys are supposed to be the predators but they look like prey most of the movie
That's because they were effective at the beginning of the war, but the Allies figured out how to run conveys with Destroyers and use anti-submarine doctrines pretty effectively soon afterwards.
Submarines weren't able to fight back at all against dedicated Destroyer convoys, all they had were their opening salvos, and then they had to run for their lives. It's just how it was.
Not to mention we had cracked their codes and knew what they were up to. The U-boats were subject to strict oversight at all times. Our subs in the Pacific simply went out to their assigned kill boxes and vanished.
The Germans launched over 700 submarines during the war. More than 500 were destroyed on their first voyage without having secured a single kill. Entire crew wiped out, of course.
They also launched the majority from 1943-1945 when it was clear that they had become ineffective.
Pretty sure they had more than that or maybe I'm thinking about the amount that were made
That's the point and very realistic for German uboats late 42 or early 43
Because subs wouldn't become truly viable underwater craft until the cold war with the invention of nuclear submarines that can stay submerged for days. Wartime Uboats could only go underwater for a few hours, and were painfully slow whilst underwater. They were only useful for a surprise opening attack.
I think it's the best submarine movie.
Make sure you're watching proper version, not some gay 2 hour theatrical cut.
4 and a half solid entertainment hours
>The film, as well as the book by Lothar G. Buchheim on which it's based, are both loosely adapted from the wartime career of the Type VIIC boat U-96, and its skipper, Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock. In late 1941, Buchheim, who was then a war correspondent in the German Navy's propaganda office, joined the crew of U-96 for one tour in the Battle of the Atlantic. This tour became the basis of Buchheim's book. (In the film, the character Lt. Werner is based on Buchheim.) During the war, Capt.-Lt. Lehmann-Willenbrock ranked seventh among U-Boat skippers in terms of shipping tonnage sunk (183,223 tons on three boats, the U-5, the U-96, and the U-256). After transferring to a new skipper, the U-96 was retired on 5 February 1943, one of the few U-boats to actually survive its tour of duty in the Atlantic. Far from being killed in an air attack (as depicted in the film), Lehmann-Willenbrock survived the war, and later served as captain on various German merchant cargo ships. Lehmann-Willenbrock and Buchheim both served as technical advisers for this film (although the volatile Buchheim fell out with director Wolfgang Petersen, who refused to let the author write the script based on his book). Lehmann-Willenbrock died in Bremen in 1986. Buchheim died in Bavaria in 2007.
>the volatile Buchheim fell out with director Wolfgang Petersen, who refused to let the author write the script based on his book
who was in the wrong here?
>Capt.-Lt. Lehmann-Willenbrock ranked seventh among U-Boat skippers in terms of shipping tonnage sunk (183,223 tons)
>He survived the war and later served as captain on various merchant cargo ships.
must've been bizarre spending the rest of your life captaining the very ships you sent to a watery grave
Buchheim fricked a french resistance woman then ratted her out to the SS. She later came to kill him but she fell in love with him instead. Women.
pure kino
Friendship.
Brotherhood.
A kino untouched by israeli claws.
>depth charge is launched at sub
>detonates near it
>sub shakes a bit and a light bulb explodes
>repeat x10
Das beste Kino aller Zeiten
this is my dad's favorite movie I think, at least top 5 for sure. he watches at least parts of it every couple weeks. he has it memorized I guess and I've caught him just watching without subtitles on. he doesnt know a lick of german.
Basa bomben!
Mediocrity
no one posted this yet?
>someone saved my copypasta
one of the best pastas out there
my grandpas brother died in a submarine that sunk in the ocean
i dont know how to feel about this
Is Das Boot better than picrel?
Frick
yes
A long, boring film that features the Germans doing ONE successful attack before spending the rest of the film retreating, and then ultimately getting killed. Red October was better.
Red October > Crimson Tide > Das Boot.
The only reason I hate Das Boot is because it pretended the submarine crew weren't actual nazis and painted them in an "uwu we're so innocent in these trying times of war T_T" light, as other anons have already pointed out.
Idk, my grandpa was in the wehrmacht & had no love for the nazis. Honestly I'm surprised they let him in, he looks very israeli.
*great grandpa
There were actual ethnic israelites who made it to high ranks in the SS. Granted, the number can be counted on one hand, but they existed.
IT'S A LONG WAY TO TIPPERARY
IT'S A LONG WAY TO GO
I taught English to two Germans connected to this classic. One, an engineer at HDW in Kiel was a consultant on the film, the other knew Mahrholz, one of the two real life models for Prochnow's character, said he still played tennis in his 90s.
The source material for the SCTV parody.