To me, the message was "Germans became Nazis because they grew up in brutally violent, unempathetic households and in a society with absurd and unquestionable hierachies".
That is what the message was, according to him as well. It's just lazy that he just so happened to make it about future Nazis when he could have made it about any other similar culture.
I wouldn't focus on the nazis too much. The idea of portraying a microcosm that had the capability of breeding a later societal or political catastrophe is a great one, in my opinion. Thomas Mann did the same in his book The Magic Mountain, where he attempted to compress pre-WWI Europe and society into a sanatorium somewhere in the mountains around Davos, Switzerland. I found this book fascinating, too. There's a pretty decent filmic adaptation, too (Der Zauberberg by Hans W. Geissendörfer, 1981).
Yeah fine I still really like the movie, and it actually doesn't play a big part in the movie itself. It's just something he said in an interview or something
I've only seen five of his films, and it's been years since I've seen any of them, but I'll give my brief thoughts on them: >time of the wolf
pretty underrated, this is probably the most realistic and believable depiction of a "post-apocalyptic" world, although most of that is probably due to a low budget not letting them show much of anything >cache
this is my favourite film of his, it's absolutely masterful at building up tension and uneasiness, one of the most believably unsettling mystery films ever made >funny games (2007)
completely pointless, nihilistic, pretentious shit that pretends to have something poignant to say but is just being edgy for the sake of it (like a less extreme version of martyrs) >the white ribbon
definitely his best film from a pure filmmaking perspective, it's the only film of his that i'd say is completely without pretension or snobbishness, just an ultra-realistic, slow-paced slice-of-life drama about an early 20th century german village, it's very immersive but you have to be in the right mood for it, it's not my favourite of his because it's so slow and mundane (intentionally) but it's definitely his best accomplishent and deserves the praise it gets >amour
yes it's realistic and sad but that's it, there's nothing else to really say about it, it's probably the most boring film i've ever seen, i know it's not meant to be exciting but there's just... nothing to it except for a sleep-inducingly slow-paced look at a person with demesia, that's it
Thanks for your overview. I've only seen Pianiste and thought that it's just some another degenerate frenchie and his perversions. I see he has no more than 8 movies to go through, so I'll try him out
None of the five films I saw of his had anything approaching degenerate sexual shit in, maybe he matured as he got older. But Funny Games (2007) is an absolute piece of shit regardless.
>completely pointless, nihilistic, pretentious shit that pretends to have something poignant to say but is just being edgy for the sake of it
this is all his filmography
>one of the most believably unsettling mystery films ever made
agree > it's probably the most boring film i've ever seen, i know it's not meant to be exciting but there's just... nothing to it except for a sleep-inducingly slow-paced look at a person with demesia, that's it
hard disagree, it's slow but very nuanced in dealing with end of life choices, the acting and pacing are superb. i also found it very emotional which is not something you usually see in his films
the wife didn't have dementia but a stroke so she's still completely aware of everything but unable to control her body
misanthropy
kino of the highest order, and
The White Ribbon is his least edgy film and arguably his best, I can recommend it.
It's really good but his own message behind it is so stupid
>Germans became fascists because of strict protestantism
Then casually doesn't mention that most early Nazis were Catholics or that protestant Netherlands somehow didn't become fascists
To me, the message was "Germans became Nazis because they grew up in brutally violent, unempathetic households and in a society with absurd and unquestionable hierachies".
That is what the message was, according to him as well. It's just lazy that he just so happened to make it about future Nazis when he could have made it about any other similar culture.
I wouldn't focus on the nazis too much. The idea of portraying a microcosm that had the capability of breeding a later societal or political catastrophe is a great one, in my opinion. Thomas Mann did the same in his book The Magic Mountain, where he attempted to compress pre-WWI Europe and society into a sanatorium somewhere in the mountains around Davos, Switzerland. I found this book fascinating, too. There's a pretty decent filmic adaptation, too (Der Zauberberg by Hans W. Geissendörfer, 1981).
Yeah fine I still really like the movie, and it actually doesn't play a big part in the movie itself. It's just something he said in an interview or something
>Thomas Mann and Michael Haneke
you couldnt find two bigger hacks if you try
Have a (you), moron
pretentious euro slop.
Black metal, probably
I've only seen five of his films, and it's been years since I've seen any of them, but I'll give my brief thoughts on them:
>time of the wolf
pretty underrated, this is probably the most realistic and believable depiction of a "post-apocalyptic" world, although most of that is probably due to a low budget not letting them show much of anything
>cache
this is my favourite film of his, it's absolutely masterful at building up tension and uneasiness, one of the most believably unsettling mystery films ever made
>funny games (2007)
completely pointless, nihilistic, pretentious shit that pretends to have something poignant to say but is just being edgy for the sake of it (like a less extreme version of martyrs)
>the white ribbon
definitely his best film from a pure filmmaking perspective, it's the only film of his that i'd say is completely without pretension or snobbishness, just an ultra-realistic, slow-paced slice-of-life drama about an early 20th century german village, it's very immersive but you have to be in the right mood for it, it's not my favourite of his because it's so slow and mundane (intentionally) but it's definitely his best accomplishent and deserves the praise it gets
>amour
yes it's realistic and sad but that's it, there's nothing else to really say about it, it's probably the most boring film i've ever seen, i know it's not meant to be exciting but there's just... nothing to it except for a sleep-inducingly slow-paced look at a person with demesia, that's it
Thanks for your overview. I've only seen Pianiste and thought that it's just some another degenerate frenchie and his perversions. I see he has no more than 8 movies to go through, so I'll try him out
None of the five films I saw of his had anything approaching degenerate sexual shit in, maybe he matured as he got older. But Funny Games (2007) is an absolute piece of shit regardless.
>completely pointless, nihilistic, pretentious shit that pretends to have something poignant to say but is just being edgy for the sake of it
this is all his filmography
>one of the most believably unsettling mystery films ever made
agree
> it's probably the most boring film i've ever seen, i know it's not meant to be exciting but there's just... nothing to it except for a sleep-inducingly slow-paced look at a person with demesia, that's it
hard disagree, it's slow but very nuanced in dealing with end of life choices, the acting and pacing are superb. i also found it very emotional which is not something you usually see in his films
the wife didn't have dementia but a stroke so she's still completely aware of everything but unable to control her body
absolute kino
Discomfort.
bomperinho
Funny Games US is better than the original
Nah. Remake was about as subtle as a sledgehammer
>about as subtle as a sledgehammer
that was the point. and it turned all the Hollywood tropes on its head
I agree
Benny's Video was his best. I was genuinely shocked at the end.
It's good but no way his best
An underrated pick I enjoy is Code Unknown
film peaked with the seventh continent
there is yet a worthy contender
masterclass filmmaking where subject and style blend seamlessly
Hidden is my favourite of his
who was camera?