>She
He looks like a dude. I feel like the standards for female beauty have been slipping massively in recent years, too many diversity hires on casting couches.
Because she's famous and hot, it basically goes against their narrative. Interviewing any of the "good" trannies would be admitting defeat. Do you think people would throw a tantrum if they saw someone like Hunter entering a womens bathroom? Frick no. They want the Lia Thomas and IT'S MAAM types, those are easy targets.
Why would anyone interview the 1% of trannies who have passing features. Just because one mentally ill male out of 100 has passing female features doesn't mean it isn't mental illness.
traps are still the same fetish/joke they always were. they know they're men, they get off on being able to seduce straight men. mentally ill people insisting they can be women doesn't change this.
>hot
Just to let you know, normal hetero men have the same instinctual disgust reaction to seeing hunter as they do seeing maggots crawling over rotten food.
Which makes you a homosexual.
Nah, that would be your reaction if you saw him kissing another man. Just being a homosexual isn't that repulsive, the guy has good genetics and a decently handsome face. Men can recognise male beauty. Brad Pitt is attractive, that doesn't mean I'd have sex with him.
>Predator using good camouflage makes it ok
Just because that dude masquerades better doesnt change a thing. he's not a woman and doesnt belong in women's locker rooms.
He belongs in a psychiatrist office.
Pics like that always remimd me of that lolcow Yaniv and how his biggest dream is to perv into little girls' restrooms and show them how to use a tampon. Truly the future that feminists deserved.
Pretty sure interviewing a medical doctor that can't answer what a woman is and thinks hormone blockers are safe and reversible gets the point across very strongly.
Because she's famous and hot, it basically goes against their narrative. Interviewing any of the "good" trannies would be admitting defeat. Do you think people would throw a tantrum if they saw someone like Hunter entering a womens bathroom? Frick no. They want the Lia Thomas and IT'S MAAM types, those are easy targets.
>Blaire white
Fricking lmao, b***h is so desperate to be seen as "one of the good trannies", she is gonna have a rude awakeningn when she realizes the choir she preaches too will curbstomp her when they get the chance
It's one of the most frustrating things I've seen. It seems funny at first, but it quickly turns to anger. The main thing that I took away from it is that trannies are completely fricked in the head, but troony supporters are probably worse.
The way it was presented was clumsy at times, undermining the message in my opinion. This documentary adressed some very important issues that constantly get drowned out by the loud pandering acceptance crowd and i hope this would have been presented in a more serious way.
The interviewees will claim things were taken out of context to fit the narrative even though they were cleary just caught with their pants down and expected some curveball questions.
you could see how critique is always interpreted as hate in these circles, especially with the social studies (?) professor.
sadly people who should watch this will just go "wow another neo fascist right winger making fun of a poor marginalized group". it's tiresome.
Its mostly just Matt Walsh interviewing people and asking them "What is a woman" but when someone gives an answer he just looks at them smugly and tries to imply that the answer is some how faulty. No real conclusions are made and its just your usual grifter shit. It won't change your mind on anything and will just affirm your views whatever they may be.
> when someone gives an answer he just looks at them smugly and tries to imply that the answer is some how faulty
It's more worrying that you'd hear the answer "a woman is whatever a woman says a woman is" and not take that as its own refutation
>Y-You aren't worried enough about singular people in the documentary!
I couldn't really give less of a shit about a <1% minority that a niche internet community is absolutely obsessed with. Walsh also accepts his wife's answer of "an adult human female" without going on an autistic tirade about "B-BUT YOU DIDNT DEFINE FEMALE!!!". Basically just proves that the documentary is smug ~~*Ben Shapiro*~~ style "Haha, gotcha! Libruls OWNED!!!"-tier childish garbage meant to generate money for the israelites who run these companies.
Traps ten years ago were a joke, today they're a mainstream sexuality, it's not the same
Yeah, people were totally jerking off it to traps as a joke. Nice revisionism, tourist.
>if you don't unconditionally love this documentary then you're a "leftist" (aka neoliberal)
I wasn't asking for Walsh or his wife to provide a definition, but I suppose its too much to ask for Cinemaphile users to know how to read. I generally define "a woman" or "female" as someone who was assigned as one at birth (i.e. they have vegana) and then use prefixes when to differentiate other types ("transwoman" for example). For me for any non-sexual/-romantic purposes I treat transwomen the same I treat women as someone having a dick doesn't matter if I'm for example sitting in a meeting at work with them.
>*ruins women sports* >*turns public bathrooms political* >*grooms children into taking puberty blockers and cutting off their genitals* >*lets sex offender freaks read books and expose themselves to children* >*constantly whine and cry on social media when normies stop playing with their delusions for more than a second* >*ruins small businesses and individual careers for not using their made-up pronouns* >*inject their mental illness in every public space imaginable where now CEOs list pronouns in their bio* >*get gender dysphoria removed from the DSM*
Uh, why so obsessed with trannies chud?
>*ruins women sports*
This is entertaining as frick but sadly it only affects a tiny minority of athletes >*turns public bathrooms political*
Dude just go take a shit lmao. >*grooms children into taking puberty blockers and cutting off their genitals*
Pretty much all doctors that do this are not trannies >*lets sex offender freaks read books and expose themselves to children*
See above, its biological women/men who enable this. >*constantly whine and cry on social media when normies stop playing with their delusions for more than a second*
So you admit to obsessively reading troony social media pages? >*ruins small businesses and individual careers for not using their made-up pronouns*
Individual cherrypicked cases. >*inject their mental illness in every public space imaginable where now CEOs list pronouns in their bio*
Oh nooo! a couple of extra characters written on a web page. This literally ruins society >*get gender dysphoria removed from the DSM*
How does this inconvenience you exactly? Like I said, you think all the things you listed are happening in a massive scale because you obsessively read cherrypicked news stories.
Some pretty good points here. Its weird how trannies are less than 1% of the population yet they have had such a detrimental effect to our culture. So many people have bought into their delusions its mind boggling. I guess corporations really need a cause to rally behind that doesnt affect their profits or their image.
Corporations turned class war into race/culture war to protect their profits. /misc/ refuses to admit this because they think if something is considered "left" then they need to oppose it.
>transwomen
Transwomen, according to YOUR OWN DEFINITION, are biological females who pretend to be men. Seems kind of bigoted for you to treat women like women even when they say they're men, but hey, you're the leftist.
>>*grooms children into taking puberty blockers and cutting off their genitals* >Pretty much all doctors that do this are not trannies
Those doctors must be pretty busy if they're spending their time grooming depressed people on discord and reddit as well as their day job.
>Corporations turned class war into race/culture war to protect their profits. /misc/ refuses to admit this because they think if something is considered "left" then they need to oppose it.
This is nothing more than leftist cope when everyone can see who has been driving this bullshit. Corporations have followed behind because they think they can profit from it, not the other way around.
>dude if you just ignore everyone whose lives were affected and ruined by the mentally ill eunuch horde then there's nothing wrong with transgenderism
are you a fricking moron??
2 years ago
Anonymous
There's a bit in ep971 where he reads out transregret stories and it's so fricking terrible.
In all seriousness the people who facilitate sex change operations should be held to account and killed in minecraft.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah the detransition stories are pretty fricked up, I watched a Sargon vid a few days ago where they went through some and one of them the dude was a schizophrenic having full blown visual and audible hallucinations and people round him just enabled him and fed into his growing delusions, it wasn't till after surgery he was finally given antipsychotic meds, as he said at the end "I should have been commited, not castrated"
2 years ago
Anonymous
The one I just watched had a guy who had his dick cut off but apparently the base of the shaft cant be removed and so you still get morning wood just without with tree part and my god i could not imagine a worse fate, literally living hell
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's just absolute butchery, I saw on gif yesterday someone post a webm of a ftm with a fake wiener trying to pee and it's shooting urine from 3 different holes where it hasn't heal up properly
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's probably very stunning and brave and we're just old sticks in the mud.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Imagine being a literal psychotic, finally getting treatment, only to realise that the "sane" people around you openly fed your insanity and mutilated you because "uh dude, you said you were god and the walls were on fire, so we just set them on fire for you".
Legitimately, I'd just kill them all. Actual fricking scum.
>actually responded point by point
lmao mad and trans
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Y-You actually wrote a long and well thought out post instead of posting le polish cancer patient face
People like you are the reason imageboards are getting worse and worse and worse.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It wasn't well thought out though
2 years ago
Anonymous
>It wasn't well thought out...BECAUSE IT JUST WASN'T OKAY?!
Either refute it or face the truth that you're mobilegay cancer.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>refute it
the movie doesn't assert anything though
2 years ago
Anonymous
>*turns public bathrooms political* >Dude just go take a shit lmao.
Oh yeah dude sorry my mistake, these are some really well thought out rebuttals and not just a troony getting mad
What is a female? Adult human organism with non-presence of y-chromosome in bodily cells excepting cases of chimerism (in which case the chimera is a woman if it has functioning ovaries; if it has functioning sperm it is a man; if neither, it is sterile intersex)
It's not a vague question, it's really straight forward, "what is a woman" the only way you could claim that is vague is if you have no answer, cope and dilate troony
its a vague question to the people he was asking, at least until he asks "can you define woman without using the word woman." until then, he's basically asking philosophy majors ontological questions and expecting a simple answer.
this is why people criticize the documentary for not really engaging with its subject matter. instead it tries to maintain a "right vs left" style divide, where two groups of people use the same words to mean different things. actively avoiding a meeting of minds.
>philosophy majors
Why can't they answer a simple question? And why should he "engage with the subject matter" as you say? The documentary was about establishing if there is any foundation for what a woman is according to leftists, why go off on tangents about theory? The fact they can't give a consistent definition for woman shows there can never be a meeting of the minds on the subject, they can't even agree amongst themselves what a woman is so why should any discussion with them go further than that?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>why should he "engage with the subject matter"
because otherwise he's just standing far away, impotently screaming. which helps them. distance is the primary means by which trannies gain so much influence/ground. distance from their supporters, distance from their detractors. because actually hopping in and arguing on their terms almost immediately collapses the entire delusion. which is how delusional thought in general is supposed to be addressed. engage the delusion and bend it's logic back on it.
>what is a woman is a vague question
The israelites genuinely did a number on you people. It’s the most simple straight forward question in the world, like what is a dog?
One of these guys. Not interested in playing post modern israeli word games with you. Here is a more scientific version too
> The dog or domestic dog (Canis familiaris[4][5] or Canis lupus familiaris[5]) is a domesticated descendant of the wolf, and is characterized by an upturning tail. The dog is derived from an ancient, extinct wolf,[6][7] and the modern wolf is the dog's nearest living relative.[8] The dog was the first species to be domesticated,[9][8] by hunter–gatherers over 15,000 years ago,[7] before the development of agriculture.[1] Due to their long association with humans, dogs have expanded to a large number of domestic individuals[10] and gained the ability to thrive on a starch-rich diet that would be inadequate for other canids.[11]
If you got a cat and tortured it and mutilated it to resemble a dog, it wouldn’t be a dog, it’s quite simple
This is honestly spot on, i dont think anyone will learn absolutely nothing new with this, people will just get their opinions, whatever they might be, reinforced
This is honestly spot on, i dont think anyone will learn absolutely nothing new with this, people will just get their opinions, whatever they might be, reinforced
Iv been replying to you for the past 2 hours though kek
>what is a woman >why it's a woman of course >but what is that >it's whoever identifies as a woman >but what does woman mean >it means you are a woman
I would beat somebody to a bloody pulp if they tried pull this circular bullshit irl. Find an answer to the question that satisfies your weird homosexual religion or shut your ugly mouth. Doublespeaking weirdos. You're too stupid to realize how indoctrinated you are.
Nothing new if you are aware of current social marxism, its a good movie to show to political normies that have their opinions spoonfed by cnn and foxnews.
the primary focus seemed to be the bearded homosexual jerking himself off, rather than engaging with the concept of transgenderism with a goal of refuting it.
Why do I see more trannies being spammed on Cinemaphile than in the media if there supposedly is such a giant push for them? Maybe you've just tricked yourselves into thinking they're a massive problem by obsessively reading cherrypicked news articles posted on /misc/?
>Why do I see more trannies being spammed on Cinemaphile than in the media
because its furries creaming their fursuits over the idea of there existing people beneath them.
its also furries who constantly scream about degeneracy.
>*ruins women sports* >*turns public bathrooms political* >*grooms children into taking puberty blockers and cutting off their genitals* >*lets sex offender freaks read books and expose themselves to children* >*constantly whine and cry on social media when normies stop playing with their delusions for more than a second* >*ruins small businesses and individual careers for not using their made-up pronouns* >*inject their mental illness in every public space imaginable where now CEOs list pronouns in their bio* >*get gender dysphoria removed from the DSM*
Some pretty good points here. Its weird how trannies are less than 1% of the population yet they have had such a detrimental effect to our culture. So many people have bought into their delusions its mind boggling. I guess corporations really need a cause to rally behind that doesnt affect their profits or their image.
Bad analogy. Saving israelites from whatever they supposedly need saving from takes actual effort. Following women's sports takes as much effort as browsing /misc/
"lefties" (read: academics) questioned what really defines men and women. right now they're kinda stuck in a non-answer because there are people who want it to be possible to be women.
before this big questioning, man/woman was basically just a collection of gender roles. gender roles which aren't even consistent over the rest of the animal kingdom.
ya know, if you want to actually talk about this shit and not just scream at strawmen of your imagined political opposition.
>before this big questioning, man/woman was basically just a collection of gender roles
Wrong, before John Money people could tell pretty easily that a woman was an adult female, that they had female reproductive organs, a female biology, and no a few genetic abnormalities does not contradict that
Without the use of cosmetics, there is not a single passing trans person. Without major intervention from surgery, drugs, or make-up, even a toddler can identify a woman just by looking at her. "Woman" is only hard to define when you're trying to change the definition
>man/woman was basically just a collection of gender roles
Yeah silly society forcing women to bear children just because of arbitrarily decided gender roles.
Gender roles and gender are different things. If they were the same thing we wouldn't have put the word "roles" in there. Do lefties have something wrong with the language processing parts of their brains?
>Gender roles and gender are different things.
no, not really. because john money was mostly talking about gender roles in his papers, he just dropped "roles" to make his stuff seem more compelling.
>before this big questioning, man/woman was basically just a collection of gender roles. gender roles which aren't even consistent over the rest of the animal kingdom.
No I'm pretty sure men/women were locked in by birth via what genitals you were born with. This outward sign corresponded with yet more biological differences on the inside that modern science, up til pretty recently, was happy to point out differentiated the sexes. Namely the way hormones cause the body to develop in adolescence with the appearance of secondary sexual characteristics. Now they're all too happy to point out "look if we manipulate the level of these hormones we can make a biological male more like a biological female! Sex doesn't exist if we twist nature into a perversion of itself!"
"Gender" as the "academics" and activists put it today is the invention of a israeli pedo from the 40's. Before then sex and gender were essentially synonyms, and while "gender roles" did change over the course of human history, most of it still boils down to men = providers/defenders/producers and women = caretakers.
what facts would those be? my main takeaway was >so like, transgender people exist.
and not much more. as there was basically zero new information in it.
Your post is exactly what I'm talking about. You guys can't debunk anything so best to pretend there is no facts or "zero new information". Maybe it's "zero" for you but that makes you either evil or complicit.
Kind of both. It doesn't go as hard as it should on certain topics and the interviews are obviously very cherrypicked, but it did make internet trannies mad so that's good.
To answer the documentary's title, someone interviewed in it made a good point that feminine men and masculine women always existed (sissy boys and tomboys) but they're still men and women. I would have expanded on it and how gender imo is not something that exists in our brains since birth but it's our social norms and exectations on how a man and a woman should behave. Different societies all over the world and through time also have somewhat different social norms and expectations about it, so it's not something that was always set in stone for everyone.
Unlike actually being a man or a woman, which is completely based on biology and the shape of someone's external reproductive organs.
So, about trannies: they're not women and they never will be, they are feminine men
About women: they are adult humans with pusy
>Please tell me which one of these you'd rather frick,
What a dishonest argument. If I told you to pick between having sex with a dog or having sex with a cat, it doesn't matter which one you pick. I wouldn't have sex with either of these people, or be interested in either of them romantically. I'm not attracted to masculine features, and both of these individuals present outwardly as masculine.
>If I told you to pick between having sex with a dog or having sex with a cat
Not the same thing and also not an answer. Funny how none of the replies answered really. Kind of proves his point
>Which one of these freakshows would you rather frick? >Oh you don't wanna frick either? Then that means there's no such thing as a woman
Kek troony delusions
>Not the same thing
Fine, choose between having sex with a 300lb ugly woman, or Brad Pitt. It's a pointless question, either you want to frick something disgusting, or you're a gay.
Nobody sane would be in this situation to begin with. It's a pointless thought experiment.
By the way, I'd have sex with the woman. Easy enough to just close your eyes and keep away from her beard, with the dude you have to smell him. But oh no, she looks like a man, that makes me gay! Frick off.
The yammering about muh culture war is pointless and distracts actually makes a good point. Trannies should really just concede theyre mentally ill, give up on it all and then we can resume the more important fight. I’m glad we’re all in agreement on that. Only a deranged lunatic would continue to press on these subjects once they learn their ideology is nothing more than a corporate labor breaking tactic cooked up in an ivory tower.
The most interesting part about it is the part where he goes to illiterate blacks who know frickall about modern civilization, ask him about sex and they straight up just answer "Man or woman, if they believe otherwise they're fricking insane"
Like they're genuinely confused as to why anyone would consider anything other then those two
Otherwise it's mostly boring as hell, it's Matt Walsh owning normies in the streets who don't engage in political debates professionally (and so obviously can't meaningfully debate their position, it's like Ben Shapiro and college kids) and then crushing some psychologist loser by pointing out that his convictions are moronic
They are troony's, troony's mostly don't work and just rely on welfare and donations, they have nothing but time on their hands to spread their ideology so they spend all their time on the internet and put their hand up for any voluntary mod/janny positions available on various websites
Such a movie could only be made in America since it's a nation of LARPers. They don't know what's real anymore. >men pretend to be women and vice versa >brown mutts pretend to be white >their two party oligarchy pretends to be a democracy >their whole country pretends to be a first world country
The list goes on and on
it's probably up there with the biggest crimes against humanity currently being committed, up there with the uyghurs.
But nobody is saying sterlizing them is brave and beautiful. Or maybe they are in china I dont know.
>Do you cry when some wasps kill some bees?
No but I also dont cry about troonys or foreskins.
However arent the bees dying or some shit?
Maybe we should be crying over bees.
>Why is one underdeveloped tribe supposedly in the right but some other one in the wrong?
Because one of them is based on empirical observable truth everyone can see with their own eyes that doesnt rely on subjective "I feel like x therefore I am x" bullshit.
Thanks for playing though.
As always, my prouns are "Mil Mi-24" and "AH-1 Cobra" so if you refer to my as anything else in your reply I will report you to the ministry of truth.
>stop being an american
But I'm not American, and you're clearly a troony, who else would be so invested in this as to write essay length posts raging about it
The documentary asks a pretty interesting question but he goes full propaganda very very quickly while pretending he's actually a neutral person just looking for an answer. Every time one of the interviews gets close to becoming interesting they just end.
My main problem with trans stuff is that dysphoria is literally a mental illness but this is the only mental illness where you're actually supposed to encourage the deluded idea instead of telling them it's crazy. No one had a problem with trannies in the 2000s because everyone could admit they were just men in skirts. Now I think even most trans supporters don't genuinely believe transwomen are women - they just try not to think about or question it. They think asking questions about it makes you terrible because you're insulting a vulnerable person. But the idea we just have to accept something completely arbitrary and unscientific because the media says so is very odd
>Every time one of the interviews gets close to becoming interesting they just end.
Because they all run away. There's no attempt at discourse, either you toe the party line or you get removed.
The point of the documentary is the sheer level of delusion and doublethink you have to be living on to think that someone can become a woman, and pointing out all the obvious ways that harms people.
>Because they all run away.
bruh, it cuts off kiefer suferland while he's trying to define woman without using the word woman. read: after walsh asks the closest thing to an interesting question that might get an interesting response, and result in an interesting dialogue, it cuts away and goes back to walsh jerking himself off.
>he couldn't do it
and then you press him with the fact the standard for a dictionary definition forbids using the word being defined in the definition.
but again, this movie isn't about understanding and refuting, its about maintaining distance and screaming.
>and then you press him with the fact the standard for a dictionary definition forbids using the word being defined in the definitio
homie that's just logic
you cant press someone by asking them to stick to logical consistency in their definitions
that should be obvious and it's fricking disgraceful that you dont know that
2 years ago
Anonymous
>you cant press someone by asking them to stick to logical consistency in their definitions
Yeah, you can. This is literally how delusions are broken, by proving to the delusional their delusions don't make any sense.
This is a pretty good documentary. It opened my eyes on fricked up some of these trannies are. I mean I knew they were mentallly ill, but the """"""healthcare professionals""""""" interviewd were the worst thing and they should be charged with crimes.
The author of the documentary clearly isn't willing to familiarize himself with the subject matter that is being dealt with here, which is rather disappointing. If he actually wanted to engage with the topic, he should have covered structuralist philosophy which is behind the definition: "A woman is anyone who says they're a woman.". And I say this as someone who doesn't even like structuralist philosophy.
>NOOOOOO whys he doing something easily accessible that cuts to the heart of the issue, he should be wasting time having a pointless philosophical debate about post structuralism that will go nowhere and be too esoteric for normies to understand instead
>cuts to the heart of the issue
but the heart of the issue is delusional ideation, and the movie doesn't even mention the fact GID was removed from the DSM
The whole point is that basic truths are being clouded by phony intellectuals who have no consistency in their beliefs. Every one of those psychologists resorted to philosophy 101 ramblings every time they were questioned. Why entertain the ideas of someone who cannot string together coherent arguments?
It's amazing that commies have gone out on such an insane limb that a semi-moronic conservative that believes "my atheist professor dropped the pen!!!" stories can actually land some punches
>being a godgay >putting mental and physical energy into moralgay questions that ultimately don't matter >ignoring actual issues the west faces because those are too taboo to talk about
these guys are just as obnoxious as the social justice gays they resist
Yes goyim, don't care about the moral decay of your society, care about slavs in the Ukraine killing eachother over nothing instead. Don't forget to pay up for another 40 billion dollar """aid""" package, too.
he's right though. the point of the movie isn't to really prove that transgenderism is nonsense, its to reassert what people who read daily wire already think.
also for matt walsh to show of all the shit he's done. and that he's totally not gay.
Sounds like you're projecting. Who are these "people who read daily wire" and why should I care about the fact they know what a woman is while trannies don't?
Your post already shows a certain ideological prejudice. Do you think that believing in the existence of men and women is a "Christian thing"? What does it have to do with Christianity? Are you also going to imply that men with a beard need constant validation because Walsh has one? Seems dishonest.
2 years ago
Anonymous
i "think" that daily wire is christian news media and therefore such people are the primary target of this movie, people who don't need (or want) any convincing of anything, just reaffirmation of what they already think. which ultimately has no effect on the fact delusional people are running rampant with being indulged.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>people who don't need (or want) any convincing of anything, just reaffirmation of what they already think.
Isnt that just everyone?
Seems weird to single out religions for this and christgays in particular when there are religions that do this way more extremely.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Isnt that just everyone?
under a certain IQ, yes
2 years ago
Anonymous
Oh YOU are one of the enlightened ones though, right? What a coincidence to find you here laying out the truth for us sheeple.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>therefore such people are the primary target
What evidence of that do you have? Seems to me the target audience is the politically uninitiated
2 years ago
Anonymous
the "politically uninitiated" aren't going to be paying for the daily wire.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Good thing the doco is available through other means, and as many in this and other threads have pointed out it's a good kicking off point to show to friends and family who don't follow politics what is going on in the trans movement
2 years ago
Anonymous
but anon, the trans movement can be summarized to >people want to believe they can change sexes, they're being indulged for profit
probably less
2 years ago
Anonymous
>ultimately has no effect on the fact delusional people are running rampant with being indulged.
he says this while thinking biological men can become real women
KEK!!
2 years ago
Anonymous
see
>pointing out that daily wire is christian news means you're a troony >criticizing the movie for not going far enough to actually refute the transgender delusion means you're a troony
this is pretty sad bruh
not a troony. criticizing the movie for making no effort to refute the delusion.
if anything you're providing more evidence the movie accomplished it's goal of increasing the divide and preventing any sort of real engagement with the forces at work. see
>why should he "engage with the subject matter"
because otherwise he's just standing far away, impotently screaming. which helps them. distance is the primary means by which trannies gain so much influence/ground. distance from their supporters, distance from their detractors. because actually hopping in and arguing on their terms almost immediately collapses the entire delusion. which is how delusional thought in general is supposed to be addressed. engage the delusion and bend it's logic back on it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>it's goal of increasing the divide
You can keep screaming it till your lungs bleed, this still wasn't the goal of the movie. But obviously you wouldn't know what its goal actually was since you clearly didn't watch it, since every time he tried to actually engage the enablers in a discussion they immediately deflected and/or ended the interview.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>this still wasn't the goal of the movie.
what was the goal of the movie then? what did it accomplish? what new information did it bring to the table? who did it convince that didn't already have an opinion?
you talk about the times interviews ended, but they all ended for different reasons. fricking marci bowman talks to him longer than anyone else, and he misses the fact he still has a penis.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You're making an assertion that nobody was convinced, changed their mind, or got new info from this movie. Yet you have no proof for that. I think it shows that a lot of claims by mentally ill gays like you and actitically accepted by the media are in fact just delusions. There are a lot of people that needed to see how delusional trannies are.
Kek plenty of us atheists hate you trannies and think you're unnatural too
2 years ago
Anonymous
>pointing out that daily wire is christian news means you're a troony >criticizing the movie for not going far enough to actually refute the transgender delusion means you're a troony
this is pretty sad bruh
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nah, what is sad is a troony like you larping as a woman and demanding people engage in pointless philosophical debates that won't be watched by anyone instead of an easily accessible doco that shows trannies are nuts in a very clear cut way
2 years ago
Anonymous
>u am say op movie bad?? U AM troony
you're literally subhuman. is it really so difficult to comprehend the idea that things can be criticized on their own terms, by people who agree with them in principle?
2 years ago
Anonymous
I can comprehend that, I just don't believe you are
>christians need constant validation of everything they already think
Sounds like troons and wokescolds, which a larger subset of the latter act like puritans anyway. Just replace original sin with original privilege and Jesus with diversity.
>its defeatism to point out how OP movie ultimately had zero effect on transgenderism as a movement
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's been out for all of 2 weeks, how can you make the claim that it won't have any effect? Did you expect trannies to magically disappear over night?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Did you expect trannies to magically disappear over night?
that would be entirely possible, had the movie addressed literally any substantive points.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You are not even trying anymore at this point.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>that would be entirely possible
Kek you're not even trying any more are you troony?
2 years ago
Anonymous
You are not even trying anymore at this point.
yea, not really. got too many morons jumping into the thread spamming at me for criticizing the movie on it's own terms, pointing out what it could've done but didn't, etc.
because you know, calling transgenderism a delusion indulged for profit is obviously something only a troony would do.
2 years ago
Anonymous
glow
2 years ago
Anonymous
>pointing out what it could've done but didn't
Where have you done anything of the sort you fricking moron? You just spout 1 or 2 sentence long garbage without ever actually going into any detail what could have been done better. And from what little of substance you have said you made it perfectly clear you didn't even watch the movie because your "suggestions" were all tried and failed because troony enablers refused to actually argue, they just left.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You seem pretty delusional yourself if you actually expect a widespread idea like transgenderism could be undone overnight like magic by a single documentary being released, it will take years to undo the troony mind virus and having another pointless philosophical debate won't do it, most normies don't even know about Plato's cave and you think they'd be able to follow a dissection of post structuralism?
If there is an audience to be persuaded (and I assume there must be, otherwise trannies wouldn't sperg out so much about it) it's normalgays who pay minimal attention to this shit. Someone who already knows trannies and their enablers are loons may have a laugh, but they aren't learning anything new.
But a normalgay network wouldn't make it. Think he pitched it to CNN first?
I really dont give a shit about trans people but chuds taking personal whatever those homosexuals do with their lifes is really fricking weird. I know some people who are 24/7 on this "cultural war" thing and its actually sad. They are not doing shit with their lives besides being on twitter or youtube all the time replying and looking for post about trans monsters.
leftists attempting pilpul and unable to answer simple questions - then huffing and letting their nose show the moment they're confronted to just answer
He interviews some professor, and actually gets a long comprehensive answer for one of his questions. He proceeds to edit portions out to exaggerate the passing of time, it was like a manifestation of the "Take the red pill ... words words words" meme.
How do you make a movie aiming to expose dishonest homosexualry and then portray YOURSELF as a such a dishonest homosexual?
because what he was talking about wasn't relevant and was clearly him going on a tangent about what he does. It rightly shows how so many people with phds get up their own ass.
t. former professor at state uni with multiple published papers
Damn this documentary really got the trannies and their enablers riled up (although let’s face it, the majority of them are just regretful trannies trying to appear neutral). It’s fascinating to witness the mental gymnastics such a simple question raises. You have to be a special kind of midwit to actually fall for the medical industry/corporate deflection troony propaganda. The worst part is these pseuds style themselves as intellectuals who have the right to talk down to people for swallowing the bait. It would funny if it wasn’t so tragic.
Trannies have to realize that their entire delusional existence is enabled by an incurably sick society that is not long for this earth, right? Like they can't be so encapsulated in their bubble that they fail to realize this. The Weimar republic was similarly diseased and look what happened. I'm not saying America is going to birth its own Nazi party, just that eventually it reaches a boiling point where radical, fringe elements manage to reach the top level of society, and once that happens, well, we're already seeing it in some places.
is this not just all mindless social media-inspired filler that doesn't actually apply to reality, wherein 99.99% of us just go along with the accepted norms without even really thinking about it, however monumental it might seem on 'the internet'?
>muh chromosomes >muh genitals >muh gametes
Yeah okay, but nobody is going around in normal society and doing medical tests on new people they meet. We all just take it at face value based on what the person is presenting as.
>We all just take it at face value based on what the person is presenting as.
Yeah, and that makes trannies seethe >what an ugly man in a dress >IT'S MA'AM
Yeah its so obvious an apparent that some states aproved for doctors to closely inspect the veganas of underage girls in sports just to make sure they are not trannies
Have you never visited a doctor before? It's common for doctors to inspect parts of people's bodies, it's their job, hell there's an entire specialist field that deals with just inspecting women's genitals
It's a good video, really exposes the average lunacy most progressives who support trannies share
The professor starts seething hard with his body language after putting his cognitive dissonance on display
it's based but not redpilled
Why didn't Matt interview her?
>her
because he's a goblin lol
He can pass when you see him from some specific angles, but both of those are not the ones.
he looks like Kurt Cobain
Not enough like Kurt if you glean my meaning
nah, he looks like skinny gay that made that "loser" song.
what member of hanson is this?
oh no no no look at dis dooooooood
because she's unironically too based and interviewing a sane troony wouldn't be fun to cuckservatives
>she
>her
>troony
>sane
>because she's unironically too based
he literally thinks her own race is subhuman lawl, hunter is "woke" as frick
>One in a billion facial structure that doesn't look monstrous after transition
She's hardly the rule, more like exception.
>She
He looks like a dude. I feel like the standards for female beauty have been slipping massively in recent years, too many diversity hires on casting couches.
>that nose
>one in a billion facial structure
you need glasses
>Sane
>troony
That's not how that works.
Because she's famous and hot, it basically goes against their narrative. Interviewing any of the "good" trannies would be admitting defeat. Do you think people would throw a tantrum if they saw someone like Hunter entering a womens bathroom? Frick no. They want the Lia Thomas and IT'S MAAM types, those are easy targets.
You mean the average troony moron
lol this
>trannies bad
>unless they are blaire white or hunter schafer, in that case I want to suck their wieners
Why would anyone interview the 1% of trannies who have passing features. Just because one mentally ill male out of 100 has passing female features doesn't mean it isn't mental illness.
Traps are classic imageboard culture
Traps ten years ago were a joke, today they're a mainstream sexuality, it's not the same
traps are still the same fetish/joke they always were. they know they're men, they get off on being able to seduce straight men. mentally ill people insisting they can be women doesn't change this.
Traps aren't transsexuals you fricking tourist.
youre just describing a homosexual you dumb coping shit dick
>she
>not capitalizing White
attention gamers, israelite detected
>Because she's famous
correct
>hot
incorrect
Lmao you make it seem like the average ones are insane or something
rip that poor wolf he raped
unironically this gay needs to be put on a watchlist and never be allowed to own any dogs or other pets
>hot
Just to let you know, normal hetero men have the same instinctual disgust reaction to seeing hunter as they do seeing maggots crawling over rotten food.
Which makes you a homosexual.
Nah, that would be your reaction if you saw him kissing another man. Just being a homosexual isn't that repulsive, the guy has good genetics and a decently handsome face. Men can recognise male beauty. Brad Pitt is attractive, that doesn't mean I'd have sex with him.
Excuse me mam, but I am me and I think I now better what does or does not disgust me than you do.
No not really. Maybe I get that when looking at this
, but not at Hunter.
>Predator using good camouflage makes it ok
Just because that dude masquerades better doesnt change a thing. he's not a woman and doesnt belong in women's locker rooms.
He belongs in a psychiatrist office.
>she
>hot
neither of these are truth you fricking deranged troony
>transgenderism is okay due to the 0.001% that pass
lol
JKR no!
>the hairline
every time
Pics like that always remimd me of that lolcow Yaniv and how his biggest dream is to perv into little girls' restrooms and show them how to use a tampon. Truly the future that feminists deserved.
Yaniv is literally a menace to his society. I feel bad for anyone living in his area.
Pretty sure interviewing a medical doctor that can't answer what a woman is and thinks hormone blockers are safe and reversible gets the point across very strongly.
He is not hot to non-paraphiliacs, and the reason he's famous is because israelites in the entertainment industry want to push troons.
>she
>hot
There are no good trannies. No troony actually passes in person.
Maybe Walsh wanted to, but the troon was busy licking Zendaya's foreskin? You can never know for sure
Him. He is a male, and he has XY chromosomes and more than likely, a dick and balls.
their manifesto already went over this
What in the frick is this schizo babble? Why would he even post this publically? His life boils down to wanting to be used by men. What a loser.
>What a loser.
anon, you're in a thread about trannies on a website meant full of weeabos.
>tu quoque
Oof moment.
fully aware lol. point is, pot/kettle etc.
You got any actual arguments or...?
This is my third post, just wanted to stop by and say you're a loser too. That's all.
>His life boils down to wanting to be used by men
That's the majority of trannies, it's a fetish
>
matt has talked to blaire white you homosexual
>Blaire white
Fricking lmao, b***h is so desperate to be seen as "one of the good trannies", she is gonna have a rude awakeningn when she realizes the choir she preaches too will curbstomp her when they get the chance
As opposed to the troon leftist mob who would kill Blair if given the chance?
things you should already know presented by someone who looks like he definitely cruises for dick most nights
It's one of the most frustrating things I've seen. It seems funny at first, but it quickly turns to anger. The main thing that I took away from it is that trannies are completely fricked in the head, but troony supporters are probably worse.
The way it was presented was clumsy at times, undermining the message in my opinion. This documentary adressed some very important issues that constantly get drowned out by the loud pandering acceptance crowd and i hope this would have been presented in a more serious way.
The interviewees will claim things were taken out of context to fit the narrative even though they were cleary just caught with their pants down and expected some curveball questions.
you could see how critique is always interpreted as hate in these circles, especially with the social studies (?) professor.
sadly people who should watch this will just go "wow another neo fascist right winger making fun of a poor marginalized group". it's tiresome.
>troony supporters are probably worse.
No they ARE worse.
Like 2 good interviews and the rest is pretty repetitive.
something your dumbfrick ass should already know. So wtf would you watch it
To laugh at troons
troonytards are like OMG "SHE" IS SO HOT
I want to frick that potato
>potatoes are muslim
>Is this redpilled or typical propaganda?
both
Its mostly just Matt Walsh interviewing people and asking them "What is a woman" but when someone gives an answer he just looks at them smugly and tries to imply that the answer is some how faulty. No real conclusions are made and its just your usual grifter shit. It won't change your mind on anything and will just affirm your views whatever they may be.
> when someone gives an answer he just looks at them smugly and tries to imply that the answer is some how faulty
It's more worrying that you'd hear the answer "a woman is whatever a woman says a woman is" and not take that as its own refutation
the only time he ever comes close to asking a meaningful question was
>can you define woman without using the word woman
>Y-You aren't worried enough about singular people in the documentary!
I couldn't really give less of a shit about a <1% minority that a niche internet community is absolutely obsessed with. Walsh also accepts his wife's answer of "an adult human female" without going on an autistic tirade about "B-BUT YOU DIDNT DEFINE FEMALE!!!". Basically just proves that the documentary is smug ~~*Ben Shapiro*~~ style "Haha, gotcha! Libruls OWNED!!!"-tier childish garbage meant to generate money for the israelites who run these companies.
Yeah, people were totally jerking off it to traps as a joke. Nice revisionism, tourist.
... why would female need to be defined? its a sex.
>B-BUT YOU DIDNT DEFINE FEMALE!
Go on, what's the leftist definition of "female", then?
>if you don't unconditionally love this documentary then you're a "leftist" (aka neoliberal)
I wasn't asking for Walsh or his wife to provide a definition, but I suppose its too much to ask for Cinemaphile users to know how to read. I generally define "a woman" or "female" as someone who was assigned as one at birth (i.e. they have vegana) and then use prefixes when to differentiate other types ("transwoman" for example). For me for any non-sexual/-romantic purposes I treat transwomen the same I treat women as someone having a dick doesn't matter if I'm for example sitting in a meeting at work with them.
>*ruins women sports*
This is entertaining as frick but sadly it only affects a tiny minority of athletes
>*turns public bathrooms political*
Dude just go take a shit lmao.
>*grooms children into taking puberty blockers and cutting off their genitals*
Pretty much all doctors that do this are not trannies
>*lets sex offender freaks read books and expose themselves to children*
See above, its biological women/men who enable this.
>*constantly whine and cry on social media when normies stop playing with their delusions for more than a second*
So you admit to obsessively reading troony social media pages?
>*ruins small businesses and individual careers for not using their made-up pronouns*
Individual cherrypicked cases.
>*inject their mental illness in every public space imaginable where now CEOs list pronouns in their bio*
Oh nooo! a couple of extra characters written on a web page. This literally ruins society
>*get gender dysphoria removed from the DSM*
How does this inconvenience you exactly? Like I said, you think all the things you listed are happening in a massive scale because you obsessively read cherrypicked news stories.
Corporations turned class war into race/culture war to protect their profits. /misc/ refuses to admit this because they think if something is considered "left" then they need to oppose it.
>transwomen
Transwomen, according to YOUR OWN DEFINITION, are biological females who pretend to be men. Seems kind of bigoted for you to treat women like women even when they say they're men, but hey, you're the leftist.
Why do lefties always deny being lefties? Is it shameful and wrong or something?
>I have been found out
Same reason they deny being a man, they're trying to trick people
>This is entertaining as frick but sadly it only affects a tiny minority of athletes
so you don't care about women? based tr00n
>assigned as one at birth
Who "assigns" this?
>>*grooms children into taking puberty blockers and cutting off their genitals*
>Pretty much all doctors that do this are not trannies
Those doctors must be pretty busy if they're spending their time grooming depressed people on discord and reddit as well as their day job.
>Corporations turned class war into race/culture war to protect their profits. /misc/ refuses to admit this because they think if something is considered "left" then they need to oppose it.
This is nothing more than leftist cope when everyone can see who has been driving this bullshit. Corporations have followed behind because they think they can profit from it, not the other way around.
>dude if you just ignore everyone whose lives were affected and ruined by the mentally ill eunuch horde then there's nothing wrong with transgenderism
are you a fricking moron??
There's a bit in ep971 where he reads out transregret stories and it's so fricking terrible.
In all seriousness the people who facilitate sex change operations should be held to account and killed in minecraft.
Yeah the detransition stories are pretty fricked up, I watched a Sargon vid a few days ago where they went through some and one of them the dude was a schizophrenic having full blown visual and audible hallucinations and people round him just enabled him and fed into his growing delusions, it wasn't till after surgery he was finally given antipsychotic meds, as he said at the end "I should have been commited, not castrated"
The one I just watched had a guy who had his dick cut off but apparently the base of the shaft cant be removed and so you still get morning wood just without with tree part and my god i could not imagine a worse fate, literally living hell
It's just absolute butchery, I saw on gif yesterday someone post a webm of a ftm with a fake wiener trying to pee and it's shooting urine from 3 different holes where it hasn't heal up properly
It's probably very stunning and brave and we're just old sticks in the mud.
Imagine being a literal psychotic, finally getting treatment, only to realise that the "sane" people around you openly fed your insanity and mutilated you because "uh dude, you said you were god and the walls were on fire, so we just set them on fire for you".
Legitimately, I'd just kill them all. Actual fricking scum.
>actually responded point by point
lmao mad and trans
>Y-You actually wrote a long and well thought out post instead of posting le polish cancer patient face
People like you are the reason imageboards are getting worse and worse and worse.
It wasn't well thought out though
>It wasn't well thought out...BECAUSE IT JUST WASN'T OKAY?!
Either refute it or face the truth that you're mobilegay cancer.
>refute it
the movie doesn't assert anything though
>*turns public bathrooms political*
>Dude just go take a shit lmao.
Oh yeah dude sorry my mistake, these are some really well thought out rebuttals and not just a troony getting mad
Absolutely nothing biological or scientific.
But "female" is already a definition in itself, dumdum.
What is a woman?
A woman is an adult human female
>What is a woman?
An adult human female.
What is a female? Adult human organism with non-presence of y-chromosome in bodily cells excepting cases of chimerism (in which case the chimera is a woman if it has functioning ovaries; if it has functioning sperm it is a man; if neither, it is sterile intersex)
Because they can't answer the question
>ask vague question
>smug reaction face to vague answers
again,
It's not a vague question, it's really straight forward, "what is a woman" the only way you could claim that is vague is if you have no answer, cope and dilate troony
its a vague question to the people he was asking, at least until he asks "can you define woman without using the word woman." until then, he's basically asking philosophy majors ontological questions and expecting a simple answer.
this is why people criticize the documentary for not really engaging with its subject matter. instead it tries to maintain a "right vs left" style divide, where two groups of people use the same words to mean different things. actively avoiding a meeting of minds.
You just misunderstood the subject matter.
It's not possible to have a genuine meeting of minds with those types of people short of parroting their own opinion back at them.
>philosophy majors
Why can't they answer a simple question? And why should he "engage with the subject matter" as you say? The documentary was about establishing if there is any foundation for what a woman is according to leftists, why go off on tangents about theory? The fact they can't give a consistent definition for woman shows there can never be a meeting of the minds on the subject, they can't even agree amongst themselves what a woman is so why should any discussion with them go further than that?
>why should he "engage with the subject matter"
because otherwise he's just standing far away, impotently screaming. which helps them. distance is the primary means by which trannies gain so much influence/ground. distance from their supporters, distance from their detractors. because actually hopping in and arguing on their terms almost immediately collapses the entire delusion. which is how delusional thought in general is supposed to be addressed. engage the delusion and bend it's logic back on it.
>what is a woman is a vague question
The israelites genuinely did a number on you people. It’s the most simple straight forward question in the world, like what is a dog?
What is a dog, anon?
A mammal of the genus canis that has been domesticated to be a companion animal to humans
What about a wild dog?
A non domesticated mammal of the genus canis, sorry but this whole Diogenes routine your trying is really pathetic
would love an African wild dog 2bh
>look like hyenas and people would prob mistake it for one if they saw you walking it but it won't eat your fricking face off
One of these guys. Not interested in playing post modern israeli word games with you. Here is a more scientific version too
> The dog or domestic dog (Canis familiaris[4][5] or Canis lupus familiaris[5]) is a domesticated descendant of the wolf, and is characterized by an upturning tail. The dog is derived from an ancient, extinct wolf,[6][7] and the modern wolf is the dog's nearest living relative.[8] The dog was the first species to be domesticated,[9][8] by hunter–gatherers over 15,000 years ago,[7] before the development of agriculture.[1] Due to their long association with humans, dogs have expanded to a large number of domestic individuals[10] and gained the ability to thrive on a starch-rich diet that would be inadequate for other canids.[11]
If you got a cat and tortured it and mutilated it to resemble a dog, it wouldn’t be a dog, it’s quite simple
Anyone that identifies as a dog, duh
Dont lie, none of the lunatics managed to answer. They cant answer because it undermines their entire ideology.
>t.only watched the trailer
This is honestly spot on, i dont think anyone will learn absolutely nothing new with this, people will just get their opinions, whatever they might be, reinforced
Can you not reply to yourself, thanks.
Gonna try larping as someone else to agree with yourself now? Kek
Not the same anon, you could easily repply to both so i can prove it, but i guess you wont, homosexual
>I could easily prove I'm not but I won't
Kek alright troon
Motherfricker you are the one who decided to repply only to one of us
Iv been replying to you for the past 2 hours though kek
I got in the thread 10 minutes ago but aight
Dilate
You seem to be the one upset by this, maybe you need to visit a therapist before you troon out fully and chop your dick off
Was this so hard you moron?
Why so mad troony?
And you call other anons samegay, lmao
Where did I claim those 2 posts didn't come from me?
>what is a woman
>why it's a woman of course
>but what is that
>it's whoever identifies as a woman
>but what does woman mean
>it means you are a woman
I would beat somebody to a bloody pulp if they tried pull this circular bullshit irl. Find an answer to the question that satisfies your weird homosexual religion or shut your ugly mouth. Doublespeaking weirdos. You're too stupid to realize how indoctrinated you are.
It's a moron interviewing idiots edited by michael moore
Nothing new if you are aware of current social marxism, its a good movie to show to political normies that have their opinions spoonfed by cnn and foxnews.
the primary focus seemed to be the bearded homosexual jerking himself off, rather than engaging with the concept of transgenderism with a goal of refuting it.
Why do I see more trannies being spammed on Cinemaphile than in the media if there supposedly is such a giant push for them? Maybe you've just tricked yourselves into thinking they're a massive problem by obsessively reading cherrypicked news articles posted on /misc/?
>Why do I see more trannies being spammed on Cinemaphile than in the media
because its furries creaming their fursuits over the idea of there existing people beneath them.
its also furries who constantly scream about degeneracy.
>*ruins women sports*
>*turns public bathrooms political*
>*grooms children into taking puberty blockers and cutting off their genitals*
>*lets sex offender freaks read books and expose themselves to children*
>*constantly whine and cry on social media when normies stop playing with their delusions for more than a second*
>*ruins small businesses and individual careers for not using their made-up pronouns*
>*inject their mental illness in every public space imaginable where now CEOs list pronouns in their bio*
>*get gender dysphoria removed from the DSM*
Uh, why so obsessed with trannies chud?
Some pretty good points here. Its weird how trannies are less than 1% of the population yet they have had such a detrimental effect to our culture. So many people have bought into their delusions its mind boggling. I guess corporations really need a cause to rally behind that doesnt affect their profits or their image.
>>*ruins women sports*
A yes, you were totally into womens sports.
>You're against the holocaust?
>Tell me how many israelites you've saved
Bad analogy. Saving israelites from whatever they supposedly need saving from takes actual effort. Following women's sports takes as much effort as browsing /misc/
>gets BTFOD
>W-why do you care anyway, I-it’s just a small thing pl-please stop caring and noticing
Maybe the real resistance of capitalism was the IQ points we lost along the way
>11yo boy
>71 IQ
>80 before blockers
That ain't a boy, that's a moron
He was probably severely autistic like half of trannies
Well with an IQ of 80 he wasnt going far anyway.
>80IQ
>these are the tards transitioning
>I'm supposed to care
kek, I'd actually support free hormone blockers over that Black person nasa mission
typical dishonest alt-right bullshit, it will nevr leave the chud bubble
What was dishonest about it? He's just asking the question, if lefties can't answer it then maybe they're the ones being dishonest
"lefties" (read: academics) questioned what really defines men and women. right now they're kinda stuck in a non-answer because there are people who want it to be possible to be women.
before this big questioning, man/woman was basically just a collection of gender roles. gender roles which aren't even consistent over the rest of the animal kingdom.
ya know, if you want to actually talk about this shit and not just scream at strawmen of your imagined political opposition.
>before this big questioning, man/woman was basically just a collection of gender roles
Wrong, before John Money people could tell pretty easily that a woman was an adult female, that they had female reproductive organs, a female biology, and no a few genetic abnormalities does not contradict that
b-b-but muh two spirit natives and eunuchs and martians with 5 genders!!!
>wrong
take john money's papers/studies and add "roles" to every instance of gender.
Without the use of cosmetics, there is not a single passing trans person. Without major intervention from surgery, drugs, or make-up, even a toddler can identify a woman just by looking at her. "Woman" is only hard to define when you're trying to change the definition
nice non-sequitur
>man/woman was basically just a collection of gender roles
Yeah silly society forcing women to bear children just because of arbitrarily decided gender roles.
Gender roles and gender are different things. If they were the same thing we wouldn't have put the word "roles" in there. Do lefties have something wrong with the language processing parts of their brains?
>Gender roles and gender are different things.
no, not really. because john money was mostly talking about gender roles in his papers, he just dropped "roles" to make his stuff seem more compelling.
>"lefties" (read: academics)
You fricking wish Black person.
>before this big questioning, man/woman was basically just a collection of gender roles. gender roles which aren't even consistent over the rest of the animal kingdom.
No I'm pretty sure men/women were locked in by birth via what genitals you were born with. This outward sign corresponded with yet more biological differences on the inside that modern science, up til pretty recently, was happy to point out differentiated the sexes. Namely the way hormones cause the body to develop in adolescence with the appearance of secondary sexual characteristics. Now they're all too happy to point out "look if we manipulate the level of these hormones we can make a biological male more like a biological female! Sex doesn't exist if we twist nature into a perversion of itself!"
note here the leftist's incessant use of word games to, as always, distract from the core of the issue
"Gender" as the "academics" and activists put it today is the invention of a israeli pedo from the 40's. Before then sex and gender were essentially synonyms, and while "gender roles" did change over the course of human history, most of it still boils down to men = providers/defenders/producers and women = caretakers.
Red pilled as in estrogen pilled?
Leftoids can't debunk single fact from this documentary is it's definitely BASED.
what facts would those be? my main takeaway was
>so like, transgender people exist.
and not much more. as there was basically zero new information in it.
Your post is exactly what I'm talking about. You guys can't debunk anything so best to pretend there is no facts or "zero new information". Maybe it's "zero" for you but that makes you either evil or complicit.
what made you think i was trying to debunk the documentary?
Thank you matt walsh for making troonys seethe.
Kind of both. It doesn't go as hard as it should on certain topics and the interviews are obviously very cherrypicked, but it did make internet trannies mad so that's good.
To answer the documentary's title, someone interviewed in it made a good point that feminine men and masculine women always existed (sissy boys and tomboys) but they're still men and women. I would have expanded on it and how gender imo is not something that exists in our brains since birth but it's our social norms and exectations on how a man and a woman should behave. Different societies all over the world and through time also have somewhat different social norms and expectations about it, so it's not something that was always set in stone for everyone.
Unlike actually being a man or a woman, which is completely based on biology and the shape of someone's external reproductive organs.
So, about trannies: they're not women and they never will be, they are feminine men
About women: they are adult humans with pusy
>Please tell me which one of these you'd rather frick,
What a dishonest argument. If I told you to pick between having sex with a dog or having sex with a cat, it doesn't matter which one you pick. I wouldn't have sex with either of these people, or be interested in either of them romantically. I'm not attracted to masculine features, and both of these individuals present outwardly as masculine.
>If I told you to pick between having sex with a dog or having sex with a cat
Not the same thing and also not an answer. Funny how none of the replies answered really. Kind of proves his point
>People are so disgusted they wont even click the thumbnail
>heh this proves how much everybody wants to frick troonys hehe
lol
lmao
>Which one of these freakshows would you rather frick?
>Oh you don't wanna frick either? Then that means there's no such thing as a woman
Kek troony delusions
>Not the same thing
Fine, choose between having sex with a 300lb ugly woman, or Brad Pitt. It's a pointless question, either you want to frick something disgusting, or you're a gay.
Nobody sane would be in this situation to begin with. It's a pointless thought experiment.
By the way, I'd have sex with the woman. Easy enough to just close your eyes and keep away from her beard, with the dude you have to smell him. But oh no, she looks like a man, that makes me gay! Frick off.
The yammering about muh culture war is pointless and distracts actually makes a good point. Trannies should really just concede theyre mentally ill, give up on it all and then we can resume the more important fight. I’m glad we’re all in agreement on that. Only a deranged lunatic would continue to press on these subjects once they learn their ideology is nothing more than a corporate labor breaking tactic cooked up in an ivory tower.
This is the result of troony focused sex education kek
The most interesting part about it is the part where he goes to illiterate blacks who know frickall about modern civilization, ask him about sex and they straight up just answer "Man or woman, if they believe otherwise they're fricking insane"
Like they're genuinely confused as to why anyone would consider anything other then those two
Otherwise it's mostly boring as hell, it's Matt Walsh owning normies in the streets who don't engage in political debates professionally (and so obviously can't meaningfully debate their position, it's like Ben Shapiro and college kids) and then crushing some psychologist loser by pointing out that his convictions are moronic
Posted a thread about this doc last week and got a three day ban. What the frick is going on with the mods?
They are troony's, troony's mostly don't work and just rely on welfare and donations, they have nothing but time on their hands to spread their ideology so they spend all their time on the internet and put their hand up for any voluntary mod/janny positions available on various websites
Lots of Ezra Miller threads getting pruned and nuked too. Really makes ya think.
Gets the noggin joggin
Cinemaphile moderation is random, inept, and meaningless.
also welcome to Cinemaphile.
>What the frick is going on with the mods?
>one basedboys quest to make a dishonest film and get a bunch of money from idiots
troony have you dilated today?
For me, its the one on the right
t. hetero man
>t. hetero man
About that... You might wanna do some introspection.
Such a movie could only be made in America since it's a nation of LARPers. They don't know what's real anymore.
>men pretend to be women and vice versa
>brown mutts pretend to be white
>their two party oligarchy pretends to be a democracy
>their whole country pretends to be a first world country
The list goes on and on
a documentary to clap along to a scream 'preach' at your tv
might even cover up your screams for underage kids to perform in dragshows
why do incels think about and hate transexuals so much?
I think disgust towards child predators is pretty universal, honestly.
Not on Cinemaphile
the frick you on about ?
We like dicky
its about the decay of this society who wants us to support such madness
it's probably up there with the biggest crimes against humanity currently being committed, up there with the uyghurs.
But nobody is saying sterlizing them is brave and beautiful. Or maybe they are in china I dont know.
I don't know, I'd say ritual infant mutilation committed for profit in America is worse. But that's more due to the scale of the problem.
Nobody gives a shit about bugs killing bugs. Do you cry when some wasps kill some bees?
>Do you cry when some wasps kill some bees?
No but I also dont cry about troonys or foreskins.
However arent the bees dying or some shit?
Maybe we should be crying over bees.
Nope, only some species of bees are dying out
The CCP have given bizarre feminist inspired justifications for the sterilizations they're performing
I dont feel qualified to say which is worse.
Why do you talk about and hate incels so much?
its actually furries, and its because trannies are being indulged, and furries have to hide.
Why do they want me to share their delusion and use bullshit pronouns? Why do they need to brainwash kids?
Because you insist on creeping your way into communities with incel hobbies like vidya and anime. Of course people are going to get sick of you.
>Why is one underdeveloped tribe supposedly in the right but some other one in the wrong?
Because one of them is based on empirical observable truth everyone can see with their own eyes that doesnt rely on subjective "I feel like x therefore I am x" bullshit.
Thanks for playing though.
As always, my prouns are "Mil Mi-24" and "AH-1 Cobra" so if you refer to my as anything else in your reply I will report you to the ministry of truth.
>stop being an american
But I'm not American, and you're clearly a troony, who else would be so invested in this as to write essay length posts raging about it
The documentary asks a pretty interesting question but he goes full propaganda very very quickly while pretending he's actually a neutral person just looking for an answer. Every time one of the interviews gets close to becoming interesting they just end.
My main problem with trans stuff is that dysphoria is literally a mental illness but this is the only mental illness where you're actually supposed to encourage the deluded idea instead of telling them it's crazy. No one had a problem with trannies in the 2000s because everyone could admit they were just men in skirts. Now I think even most trans supporters don't genuinely believe transwomen are women - they just try not to think about or question it. They think asking questions about it makes you terrible because you're insulting a vulnerable person. But the idea we just have to accept something completely arbitrary and unscientific because the media says so is very odd
>Every time one of the interviews gets close to becoming interesting they just end.
Because they all run away. There's no attempt at discourse, either you toe the party line or you get removed.
The point of the documentary is the sheer level of delusion and doublethink you have to be living on to think that someone can become a woman, and pointing out all the obvious ways that harms people.
>Because they all run away.
bruh, it cuts off kiefer suferland while he's trying to define woman without using the word woman. read: after walsh asks the closest thing to an interesting question that might get an interesting response, and result in an interesting dialogue, it cuts away and goes back to walsh jerking himself off.
Or, you know, he couldn't do it so they just cut a pointless line for the sake of time.
Again, the doc has been out for weeks at this point, no leftist has come up with a definition yet.
>he couldn't do it
and then you press him with the fact the standard for a dictionary definition forbids using the word being defined in the definition.
but again, this movie isn't about understanding and refuting, its about maintaining distance and screaming.
>and then you press him with the fact the standard for a dictionary definition forbids using the word being defined in the definitio
homie that's just logic
you cant press someone by asking them to stick to logical consistency in their definitions
that should be obvious and it's fricking disgraceful that you dont know that
>you cant press someone by asking them to stick to logical consistency in their definitions
Yeah, you can. This is literally how delusions are broken, by proving to the delusional their delusions don't make any sense.
Gender dysphoria is a severe illness, however majority of trannies are autoegynephiles aka fetishists
Now that's a good question
Just typical neocon shit, calling trannies groomers but not pointing fingers at the hierarchy funding troony garbage cause that would be antisemitic.
This is a pretty good documentary. It opened my eyes on fricked up some of these trannies are. I mean I knew they were mentallly ill, but the """"""healthcare professionals""""""" interviewd were the worst thing and they should be charged with crimes.
why would you pretend you're only JUST NOW learning that there's tons of unscrupulous healthcare professionals profiting of this?
Because it genuinely doesn't occur to alot of normies that doctors are doing this intentionally to make a buck
It's more of the people behind the troony shit not the trannies themselves
The author of the documentary clearly isn't willing to familiarize himself with the subject matter that is being dealt with here, which is rather disappointing. If he actually wanted to engage with the topic, he should have covered structuralist philosophy which is behind the definition: "A woman is anyone who says they're a woman.". And I say this as someone who doesn't even like structuralist philosophy.
>NOOOOOO whys he doing something easily accessible that cuts to the heart of the issue, he should be wasting time having a pointless philosophical debate about post structuralism that will go nowhere and be too esoteric for normies to understand instead
>cuts to the heart of the issue
but the heart of the issue is delusional ideation, and the movie doesn't even mention the fact GID was removed from the DSM
What is a woman?
Someone with a nice big pair of X chromosomes.
Did you make the same joke yesterday or are they fricking around with the matrix?
I make the same joke everytime this thread is posted.
It's not a bad joke. Carry on.
The whole point is that basic truths are being clouded by phony intellectuals who have no consistency in their beliefs. Every one of those psychologists resorted to philosophy 101 ramblings every time they were questioned. Why entertain the ideas of someone who cannot string together coherent arguments?
>goes to Black folk in Africa for validation
lol conservatives
Insane asylums need to be reopened and massively expanded. Or just make them work camps I guess.
It's amazing that commies have gone out on such an insane limb that a semi-moronic conservative that believes "my atheist professor dropped the pen!!!" stories can actually land some punches
>being a godgay
>putting mental and physical energy into moralgay questions that ultimately don't matter
>ignoring actual issues the west faces because those are too taboo to talk about
these guys are just as obnoxious as the social justice gays they resist
Yes goyim, don't care about the moral decay of your society, care about slavs in the Ukraine killing eachother over nothing instead. Don't forget to pay up for another 40 billion dollar """aid""" package, too.
bruh you're a furry
Frick off Black person
he's right though. the point of the movie isn't to really prove that transgenderism is nonsense, its to reassert what people who read daily wire already think.
also for matt walsh to show of all the shit he's done. and that he's totally not gay.
Sounds like you're projecting. Who are these "people who read daily wire" and why should I care about the fact they know what a woman is while trannies don't?
>Who are these "people who read daily wire"
christians. and christians need constant validation of everything they already think
Your post already shows a certain ideological prejudice. Do you think that believing in the existence of men and women is a "Christian thing"? What does it have to do with Christianity? Are you also going to imply that men with a beard need constant validation because Walsh has one? Seems dishonest.
i "think" that daily wire is christian news media and therefore such people are the primary target of this movie, people who don't need (or want) any convincing of anything, just reaffirmation of what they already think. which ultimately has no effect on the fact delusional people are running rampant with being indulged.
>people who don't need (or want) any convincing of anything, just reaffirmation of what they already think.
Isnt that just everyone?
Seems weird to single out religions for this and christgays in particular when there are religions that do this way more extremely.
>Isnt that just everyone?
under a certain IQ, yes
Oh YOU are one of the enlightened ones though, right? What a coincidence to find you here laying out the truth for us sheeple.
>therefore such people are the primary target
What evidence of that do you have? Seems to me the target audience is the politically uninitiated
the "politically uninitiated" aren't going to be paying for the daily wire.
Good thing the doco is available through other means, and as many in this and other threads have pointed out it's a good kicking off point to show to friends and family who don't follow politics what is going on in the trans movement
but anon, the trans movement can be summarized to
>people want to believe they can change sexes, they're being indulged for profit
probably less
>ultimately has no effect on the fact delusional people are running rampant with being indulged.
he says this while thinking biological men can become real women
KEK!!
see
not a troony. criticizing the movie for making no effort to refute the delusion.
if anything you're providing more evidence the movie accomplished it's goal of increasing the divide and preventing any sort of real engagement with the forces at work. see
>it's goal of increasing the divide
You can keep screaming it till your lungs bleed, this still wasn't the goal of the movie. But obviously you wouldn't know what its goal actually was since you clearly didn't watch it, since every time he tried to actually engage the enablers in a discussion they immediately deflected and/or ended the interview.
>this still wasn't the goal of the movie.
what was the goal of the movie then? what did it accomplish? what new information did it bring to the table? who did it convince that didn't already have an opinion?
you talk about the times interviews ended, but they all ended for different reasons. fricking marci bowman talks to him longer than anyone else, and he misses the fact he still has a penis.
You're making an assertion that nobody was convinced, changed their mind, or got new info from this movie. Yet you have no proof for that. I think it shows that a lot of claims by mentally ill gays like you and actitically accepted by the media are in fact just delusions. There are a lot of people that needed to see how delusional trannies are.
>engagement
Engagement with what?
>christians. and christians need constant validation of everything they already think
Sounds a lot like troonys
Kek plenty of us atheists hate you trannies and think you're unnatural too
>pointing out that daily wire is christian news means you're a troony
>criticizing the movie for not going far enough to actually refute the transgender delusion means you're a troony
this is pretty sad bruh
Nah, what is sad is a troony like you larping as a woman and demanding people engage in pointless philosophical debates that won't be watched by anyone instead of an easily accessible doco that shows trannies are nuts in a very clear cut way
>u am say op movie bad?? U AM troony
you're literally subhuman. is it really so difficult to comprehend the idea that things can be criticized on their own terms, by people who agree with them in principle?
I can comprehend that, I just don't believe you are
What is a woman?
>christians need constant validation of everything they already think
Sounds like troons and wokescolds, which a larger subset of the latter act like puritans anyway. Just replace original sin with original privilege and Jesus with diversity.
pretty rich coming from a person in a culture where 99% of mass media is doing the same thing for the conventional narrative every single day
>the point of the movie isn't to really prove that transgenderism is nonsense
The point of the movie is to showcase how fricking nuts troony enablers are, and how vile their methods are.
which ultimately has no effect on anything
Take your defeatism and shove up your ass, buddy.
>its defeatism to point out how OP movie ultimately had zero effect on transgenderism as a movement
It's been out for all of 2 weeks, how can you make the claim that it won't have any effect? Did you expect trannies to magically disappear over night?
>Did you expect trannies to magically disappear over night?
that would be entirely possible, had the movie addressed literally any substantive points.
You are not even trying anymore at this point.
>that would be entirely possible
Kek you're not even trying any more are you troony?
yea, not really. got too many morons jumping into the thread spamming at me for criticizing the movie on it's own terms, pointing out what it could've done but didn't, etc.
because you know, calling transgenderism a delusion indulged for profit is obviously something only a troony would do.
glow
>pointing out what it could've done but didn't
Where have you done anything of the sort you fricking moron? You just spout 1 or 2 sentence long garbage without ever actually going into any detail what could have been done better. And from what little of substance you have said you made it perfectly clear you didn't even watch the movie because your "suggestions" were all tried and failed because troony enablers refused to actually argue, they just left.
You seem pretty delusional yourself if you actually expect a widespread idea like transgenderism could be undone overnight like magic by a single documentary being released, it will take years to undo the troony mind virus and having another pointless philosophical debate won't do it, most normies don't even know about Plato's cave and you think they'd be able to follow a dissection of post structuralism?
Seems it's had a big effect so far
If there is an audience to be persuaded (and I assume there must be, otherwise trannies wouldn't sperg out so much about it) it's normalgays who pay minimal attention to this shit. Someone who already knows trannies and their enablers are loons may have a laugh, but they aren't learning anything new.
But a normalgay network wouldn't make it. Think he pitched it to CNN first?
>questions that ultimately don't matter
Which questions matter?
What is a woman tho?
I really dont give a shit about trans people but chuds taking personal whatever those homosexuals do with their lifes is really fricking weird. I know some people who are 24/7 on this "cultural war" thing and its actually sad. They are not doing shit with their lives besides being on twitter or youtube all the time replying and looking for post about trans monsters.
yeah that's definitely only chuds that do and not troonys and fricktarded sjw culture warrirors
chud spotted
Bit too transparent there buddy.
>chuds
You trannies just can't help but out yourselves can you? Kek
leftists attempting pilpul and unable to answer simple questions - then huffing and letting their nose show the moment they're confronted to just answer
>screams at strawman of his imagined opposition
>the professor didn't engage in pilpul
why even comment on something you haven't watched?
I love reading all this troony cope kek you will never be a woman
Ywnbam
Bigot
homosexual
Black person
Already am, wanna know how I know? Cause I got a dick and also balls
He interviews some professor, and actually gets a long comprehensive answer for one of his questions. He proceeds to edit portions out to exaggerate the passing of time, it was like a manifestation of the "Take the red pill ... words words words" meme.
How do you make a movie aiming to expose dishonest homosexualry and then portray YOURSELF as a such a dishonest homosexual?
>and actually gets a long comprehensive answer for one of his questions
No, he gets a bunch of fricking empty platitudes and actual pilpul.
because what he was talking about wasn't relevant and was clearly him going on a tangent about what he does. It rightly shows how so many people with phds get up their own ass.
t. former professor at state uni with multiple published papers
Damn this documentary really got the trannies and their enablers riled up (although let’s face it, the majority of them are just regretful trannies trying to appear neutral). It’s fascinating to witness the mental gymnastics such a simple question raises. You have to be a special kind of midwit to actually fall for the medical industry/corporate deflection troony propaganda. The worst part is these pseuds style themselves as intellectuals who have the right to talk down to people for swallowing the bait. It would funny if it wasn’t so tragic.
Trannies have to realize that their entire delusional existence is enabled by an incurably sick society that is not long for this earth, right? Like they can't be so encapsulated in their bubble that they fail to realize this. The Weimar republic was similarly diseased and look what happened. I'm not saying America is going to birth its own Nazi party, just that eventually it reaches a boiling point where radical, fringe elements manage to reach the top level of society, and once that happens, well, we're already seeing it in some places.
A documentary about intellectual dishonesty made by an intellectually dishonest person.
You CHUDS are STILL spreading toxic dangerous transphobic misinformation? That's it, no more Mr. Nice Guy.
MAYONNAISE CHUD, your toxic rhetoric will NOT divide us.
Mayonnaise CHUD, we do not forget. We do not forgive. You have been warned.
We are the Chudbusters. Mayonnaise Chud of Chuddonnaise, consider yourself WARNED. This is ChudWATCH.
Chudbuster OUT.
Chromosome pairing, uterus, physical structure, and hormones.
a combo of that, you can't get away with just one, you homosexual ass freaks
What is a man?
A little pile of secrets
know this only from the AVGN video lol
is this not just all mindless social media-inspired filler that doesn't actually apply to reality, wherein 99.99% of us just go along with the accepted norms without even really thinking about it, however monumental it might seem on 'the internet'?
>muh chromosomes
>muh genitals
>muh gametes
Yeah okay, but nobody is going around in normal society and doing medical tests on new people they meet. We all just take it at face value based on what the person is presenting as.
>We all just take it at face value based on what the person is presenting as.
Yeah, and that makes trannies seethe
>what an ugly man in a dress
>IT'S MA'AM
yeah, I agree. And since trannies don't look like women, they aren't.
Yeah its so obvious an apparent that some states aproved for doctors to closely inspect the veganas of underage girls in sports just to make sure they are not trannies
Have you never visited a doctor before? It's common for doctors to inspect parts of people's bodies, it's their job, hell there's an entire specialist field that deals with just inspecting women's genitals
It's a good video, really exposes the average lunacy most progressives who support trannies share
The professor starts seething hard with his body language after putting his cognitive dissonance on display
None of the people he interviewed managed to answer this simple question. What is a woman?
it triggers sjw, troonys and troonylovers, so it might worth the shot.