It has become really formulaic. >Two girls are friends >They're really good friends >Best friends even
Gonna be lesbos by the end of it.
The only show so far that I've seen not do this is frickin Amphibia.
This is pretty realistic, though. When living with shit people, expecting the people living with them NOT to become jerks themselves is just wishful thinking.
>This is pretty realistic, though
No, it isn't. Most research shows that bullies are more well-adjusted and socially succesful than bullied kids, and do it mostly because they're kids and do not have a highly developed sense of morality yet.
>Every time the main character sticks up for himself or confronts the othe rcharacter >They are seen as the jerk and they have to be the one to apologize.
>main character wins a bunch of money >gee I wonder what is going to fricking happen, I'm sure they'll just keep it and be rich for the rest of the show now
I gotta say, in Doug it was pretty refreshing when Roger got rich and stayed rich. It didn't really matter because Roger was still Roger whether he lived in a dump or a mansion.
>Character complains about having junk >Character replaces it with a new one >Character regrets it and goes back to using said junk
This is status quo on steroids
Similar but when it's a Sentient object/creature that replaces the old one. And the new one is an butthole which makes the main character want the old one back despite it being old and broken down.
Spongebob and the new Spatula
Chowder and the new snail car
Stewie Griffin and the new dog.
That episode is one of the worst offenders >Problem with new object isn't the object itself but that the dad becomes obsessed with it to the point of not letting the others get in >Father actually relaises this and instead of just letting the family get in the new object they just swap it for the old one
The one where his truck gives out, everyone tries to get him to replace it, we get a nostalgic montage of it, he tries to fix it and then it fails him on a railroad crossing and gets smashed into a thousand pieces.
Ah I see. New doesnt alway mean good, but sometimes things are past their prime. I appreciate Hank at least attempting to fix it rather than just tossing it out. Granted he was emotionally attached to it too.
It's an amazing copout at the last quarter of the episode, because it looks like he's just going to keep driving it and the problem will just disappear next week, but then it stalls again, and then the train whails. I really appreciate how much Mike didn't want it to be like all the other cartoons. Just like IRL, shit gets worse when you ignore it.
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There's also the one where they buy another new truck with needless bells and whistles and Hack wants to bring it back, but then on the way to the dealership he changes his mind because it's actually pretty nice
Bob's Burgers is the worst example of this. They got a new couch to replace their old one but insist on trading the new one for their old one. It's especially weird because they where willing to change Luise's bedroom's status queue with the lofted bed. But not the living room's status queue. If the show really wanted to they could have made the new couch look just like the old one. But Noooooooo. The family can't grow and move on and allow themselves to throw away a shitty old couch.
Been a while since I watched it but it doesn't even feel like there was much of a reason for them to get angry at him aside from >You were vaguely misleading about your initial intentions!
not Cinemaphile but the laurel and hardy movie has a very good use of it.
laurel keeps something hidden from hardy, but when he finally comes clean hardy reveals he knew already and didn't even realize laurel thought it was a secret. >"i thought you knew that i knew" >"how could i have known that you knew?" >"well, i thought you knew that i... uh, how would hardy reply in character?"
and they just make an impromptu laurel an hardy sketh
I generally don't like "Prince and the Pauper" plots but I find it funny when it's just a one-off gag with a guy who looks just like the MC. The only other exception is when character a is looking for character B and they think they find character B from behind. But when character B turns around it turns out to be complete stranger.
The people who hate them brought it into this topic in the first place for no reason but to have another place to b***h about it.
It's absolutely rent free and unhealthy to obsess over something you hate so much.
Please get a job, or get involved in politics to put a stop to it. Reminding us they exist accomplishes nothing.
It's extra sad that you're still obsessed about them on Christmas.
You're completely serious aren't you? You just tried to say there's no such thing about the term anti trans existing. While also saying you aren't trying to tell me how to think? You're moronic and your next line is likely telling me to dilate cause ima troony or something for even debating against you on this.
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I'm not saying the term doesn't exist. Any made up word can exist. It just makes no sense to use it any context. "Normal" is the more appropriate word
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I've come to the conclusion then that anti trans people are just a subsect of normalgays lol. You're a fricking normie pest.
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You don't have to be a turbo normie to understand transgenderism is a fake narcissistic fueled fetish. You just have to NOT be mentally deranged.
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Whatever you say normalgay. You're just trying to convince everybody to be normal gay drones like yourself.
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>Understating the ills of transgenderism makes you a drone.
It's the opposite actually.
A really specific trope i hate is the Holiday Special tropes. It's why I generally don't watch Holiday specials or Christmas movies. >supposed to be a comedy >characters who are usually close in the show get into a huge dramatic fight and one of the character (it's usually a dog who gets a little too rambunctious) runs away >everything is somber >meanwhile the background is covered in decorations >characters have to go out and search for the one who ran away
I think the only one I enjoyed was the Charlie Brown christmas special.
>What are some cartoon tropes you're sick of because they're so predictable now?
basically any plot relying on a status quo change that will inevitably get reverted or otherwise undone by the episode's end, at this point it just feels like a complete waste of time for both the audience and the people making the show in the first place
>e-celeb makes video on (X) >People make godawful "what do you think of (X)" "was (X) any good?" "sex with (X)" >>"Oh, wow, how dare someone talk about cartoons and comics on Cinemaphile, right?"
>Mysterious character with a helmet/mask on >"Oh wow, it's Mr. Badass!" >"Mr. Badass is so amazing, he's so cool!" >"So mysterious, he's the best fighter ever!" >Mr. Badass is revealed to be a girl for the sole purpose of shocking everyone >She never wears her mask/helmet a single time after taking it off
There was a Halo Anthology thing I saw on Netflix once and one of the shorts hit this beat for beat. She dies and the short is like 10 munites long, but there wasn't any build up.
>Mr. Badass takes off mask/helmet, revealing long flowing hair >everyone is shocked that Mr. Badass is a GIRL???? >"Nah, I'm a guy. I just have really long hair." >show continues normally
Has this kind of subversion been used in cartoons yet?
>group of friends who have known each other for years >new guy shows up and is super shady >one friend mentions this >their lifelong friends suddenly think he's just doing it to be a dick and trust the new person over him because...... >friend turns out to be right about them being shady >they get a token apology but everyone just completely ignores it ever happened
Especially moronic when the suspicious friend is also the one who's been reasonable and the characters have had zero issue trusting up until that point where the suddenly don't for no reason.
>What's wrong with you?! >You're just jealous of Shady Steve! >Stop being so petty and jealous, man! >[Shady Steve was actually untrustworthy the whole time] >apology, if it happens at all, is played for laughs.
>What's wrong with you?! >You're just jealous of Shady Steve! >Stop being so petty and jealous, man! >[Shady Steve was actually untrustworthy the whole time] >apology, if it happens at all, is played for laughs.
This really pissed me off in Regular Show Season fricking EIGHT, where right after being blasted off into and trapped in space, being completely confused, the entire park gang (and Eileen) think Mordecai and Rigby are lying and being mean about random robots that show up being deceitful.
seriously what the frick was up with that? they have experienced way crazier shit during the eight seasons than robots, they should know by now not to trust anything magical
Clowns being evil and/or scary. Seriously, when was the last time something interesting was done with the concept? I can't think of anything later than the original Dead Rising.
>Character with a shitty home life or some other problems winds up improving their lot in life / coming into money / otherwise engaging in significant self -improvement. >The plot contrives itself to reset them back to their shitty status quo by the end of the episode.
>Character is about to tell the truth >Gets interupted to be told how their lie made things better >"But anyway, what were you gonna say?" >Character continues lie
>Character has a misunderstanding with another character that could literally be solved if they just communicate with one another >DURRR WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME THAT EARLIER
>story sets place in the 80's/90's
it's starting to get dry, when are we getting more stories that take place before the 90's? what about the 50's? the 20's? hell, what about a show that takes place in the victorian era?
>new character that comes out of nowhere is instantly popular and threatens to take MC’s place in all his friend’s lives but he is actually evil, unhinged, and planned the whole thing
Having a leather jacket makes the character rebellious but it’s kind of cringe. One new example from the show Hailey’s on it even has leather jacket in the name
cartoons being unfunny
Last second dykes.
Ah yes. Truly a widespread epidemic that makes the self insertgay seethe impotently. Know you will never have a girlfriend. 🙂
Hiya dyke. Oh wait, you're not and never will be a real woman.
Don't be silly, anon. The projecting subhuman you replied to isn't a woman, he just wishes he was.
This, and also when a gay character asks another character out and they just so happen to be gay too, no rejection, ever. So realistic, wow
It has become really formulaic.
>Two girls are friends
>They're really good friends
>Best friends even
Gonna be lesbos by the end of it.
The only show so far that I've seen not do this is frickin Amphibia.
when a character complains about a overused trope that has just happened
>We are self-aware
>scores of mooks being thrown at the Strong Female Character™, only for them to get mulched to prove how badass she is
>10 guys try to fight the girl with super strength
>they lose
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! FRICK WAMEN!!!!
In addition to this, I am tired that they also do it with men
If she has super strength or some bs ability in context of the setting then its perfectly normal Anon
Wimpy underdog protagonist with daddy issues
>I'm a bully because.....blame my parents okay?!
This is pretty realistic, though. When living with shit people, expecting the people living with them NOT to become jerks themselves is just wishful thinking.
It would be a humorous change of pace if the bully has no excuse or reason and is totally aware that he just likes being an butthole
Jack Horner in PiBTLW is exactly this and he is all the better for it.
>This is pretty realistic, though
No, it isn't. Most research shows that bullies are more well-adjusted and socially succesful than bullied kids, and do it mostly because they're kids and do not have a highly developed sense of morality yet.
>Most research shows
The only thing I'm truly sick of is cartoons explaining the joke, which just so happens to be every cartoon's MO nowadays.
>Creator transitions
Getting tired of that one imo
Trans people frickin’ suck
>people
They are brainless zombies whos minds were eaten away by leftism.
The way they turn each other really is a form of zombie virus.
What is the point of dehumanizing them? Why hate them so much? They just wanna exist in peace
Same reason why I hate socialists and pedophiles, they don't want to be left alone they want to tell you they should be allowed to do what they want.
Why should I give a frick about things that don't affect me? I'm not a normie.
What is the point of arresting them? Why hate them so much? They just want to jack off in public in peace
I just had the intrusive thought of him "transitioning" by animating his mouth and eyes over a biological woman.
>Hey, hey dick, guess what?
>Knife!
eye*
the annoying orange eyes are just the same eye duplicated
Frick you, choke on a wiener
HRT ruined the cartoon community like crack ruined the ghetto
This is the funniest fricking line I have read on this site.
Saved.
It's a spoof on this tweet
at least he's not fat
rent-free
>he says as he barges into the house with a gun.
>he thinks I'm in the wrong for shooting him when he aimed a gun at a random person first
You don't understand anon's metaphor and just look like another mentally unwell freak.
yeah thats another over used predicatble joke
I just realized how weird and creepy the mouths are and even the vibe of some of the videos
Let's be honest, we saw this one coming years ago.
>/vt/ won
I really didn't expect this, but it feels good when the trolls lose
hey
hey penis
hey penis
penis
penis
penis
KNIFE
Fricks sake
Bro my sides
I hated that orange guy when I was a kid I think I hate that orange guy even more
They even managed to get Rockstar, the most controversial vidya company in the west, to censor their fricking videogame
>ruins homosexuals
I will never forgive the homosexual feminine twink genocide.
>Hey Apple!
>Hey! Hey Apple!
>Hey! Hey Apple!
>What?!
>Rope!
>Wha-ACK!
So will the Orange be trans or queer coded too?
Why does he look like YMS? Is this the work of JON?
>Every time the main character sticks up for himself or confronts the othe rcharacter
>They are seen as the jerk and they have to be the one to apologize.
this, also one of my main problem with King of the Hill despite liking it
>main character wins a bunch of money
>gee I wonder what is going to fricking happen, I'm sure they'll just keep it and be rich for the rest of the show now
Steven Universe
Greg didn’t spend his money on anything significant so it’s basically the same as reseting to the status quo of being broke.
Wouldn't he help fund large trips for the steven and the gems? I swear that Greg's wealth would come up a few times throughout the series.
Correct. He kept most of that money, he just didn't want to permanently change his lifestyle. Pretty sure he did fund trips though.
Correction he did take a big hit on buying a yacht after jasper destroyed it
Jojo part 4 did it right
I gotta say, in Doug it was pretty refreshing when Roger got rich and stayed rich. It didn't really matter because Roger was still Roger whether he lived in a dump or a mansion.
>Muh status quo won't change!
I honestly hate when the status quo does change, because it's usually followed by the series turning to shit.
>but please take this "very special episode" seriously
>Character complains about having junk
>Character replaces it with a new one
>Character regrets it and goes back to using said junk
This is status quo on steroids
And it's NEVER believable. Was also the worst Bob's Burgers episode
Similar but when it's a Sentient object/creature that replaces the old one. And the new one is an butthole which makes the main character want the old one back despite it being old and broken down.
Spongebob and the new Spatula
Chowder and the new snail car
Stewie Griffin and the new dog.
That episode is one of the worst offenders
>Problem with new object isn't the object itself but that the dad becomes obsessed with it to the point of not letting the others get in
>Father actually relaises this and instead of just letting the family get in the new object they just swap it for the old one
>entire koth episode dedicated to defying this cliché
Which one? It wasnt the mower focus group one right? That one is the opposite of the trope.
The one where his truck gives out, everyone tries to get him to replace it, we get a nostalgic montage of it, he tries to fix it and then it fails him on a railroad crossing and gets smashed into a thousand pieces.
Ah I see. New doesnt alway mean good, but sometimes things are past their prime. I appreciate Hank at least attempting to fix it rather than just tossing it out. Granted he was emotionally attached to it too.
It's an amazing copout at the last quarter of the episode, because it looks like he's just going to keep driving it and the problem will just disappear next week, but then it stalls again, and then the train whails. I really appreciate how much Mike didn't want it to be like all the other cartoons. Just like IRL, shit gets worse when you ignore it.
There's also the one where they buy another new truck with needless bells and whistles and Hack wants to bring it back, but then on the way to the dealership he changes his mind because it's actually pretty nice
That's the same episode, dumbass.
Bob's Burgers is the worst example of this. They got a new couch to replace their old one but insist on trading the new one for their old one. It's especially weird because they where willing to change Luise's bedroom's status queue with the lofted bed. But not the living room's status queue. If the show really wanted to they could have made the new couch look just like the old one. But Noooooooo. The family can't grow and move on and allow themselves to throw away a shitty old couch.
why is it when I make a thread like this I get no replies?
because you're a footgay
Because you're a boringgay.
>coomer bait image
That's why. Kys
>character is supposed to be an allegory for Superman
>is secretly a huge butthole
>allegory=parody
midwit
>Joke character gets no development or gets to do anything cool
Milhouse and Jack Spicer
>Jack Spicer
Did you not watch the XS finale or when he saved the Monks from Wuya?
Never slander my boy jack like that again and it's more applicable to more modern shows
>jack spi-
*shoots you with water gun full of piss*
go stand in the snow. Now!
>He's right behind me, isn't he?
that's not even a trope, it's supposed to be a joke
When a family has a yard/garage sale
>Character becomes a meme
Seriously why won't it end?
Nice try Millhouse but you're still not a meme.
>cute character gets angry
>their voice is switched out with some dude doing a generic "demonic" voice
Always hated that shit
Yeah
"Liar revealed" trope
this ruined Klaus for me
Been a while since I watched it but it doesn't even feel like there was much of a reason for them to get angry at him aside from
>You were vaguely misleading about your initial intentions!
Well the postman lied by omission. He didn't do anything wrong, but he was using the townspeople for his own selfish ends.
Do you hate Klaus? Because that movie uses it blatantly, even when the mc is not even lying
that's the driver of like 70% of animated movies from the 90s
not Cinemaphile but the laurel and hardy movie has a very good use of it.
laurel keeps something hidden from hardy, but when he finally comes clean hardy reveals he knew already and didn't even realize laurel thought it was a secret.
>"i thought you knew that i knew"
>"how could i have known that you knew?"
>"well, i thought you knew that i... uh, how would hardy reply in character?"
and they just make an impromptu laurel an hardy sketh
We know, Doug.
>They're going to the fireworks factory
>Actually that would cost too much to animate so let's detour for some bullshit frustrating side-plot instead
not Cinemaphile but this reminds me a lot of Halo Infinite
Godzilla (2014)
Godzilla (1954)
Ed Edd n Eddy did this with the jawbreaker factory which was disappointing
>little sister/little girl character
>hypercapable, stronger, smarter, angrier, tougher, and scarier than everyone else in the series
I hated her so much
It's such a fricking tiresome gag. It's like Angelica from Rugrats, but she has plot armor, super powers, and is never wrong.
frick man Angelica gets her licks constantly, I don't think ANYTHING happened to Miranda
At least Miranda Cosgrove was cute so I was more inclined to laugh at least when Drake and Josh would react comedically to her.
I still agree entirely with
though, it's just one of the bigger examples of how shit writing always goes after female characters.
Similarly, I hate the Ralph and Venelope dynamic too. The bumbling big guy and the saller girl who gets by easily shtick.
>villain has a therapist
it's funny because the Sopranos did it!
the genius character and women who knows karate cause apparently that's the only way the writer can show she's a powerful woman.
it was fine when it was just Sandy Cheeks. But then it became so over saturated.
>Hellooo… My name is Guy Incognito~
There is nothing wrong with unexplained doppelgangers
I generally don't like "Prince and the Pauper" plots but I find it funny when it's just a one-off gag with a guy who looks just like the MC. The only other exception is when character a is looking for character B and they think they find character B from behind. But when character B turns around it turns out to be complete stranger.
People angry at them brought them into the topic in the first place.
Anti trans people are more annoying than trans people which makes me not like them.
See
>breaks into house
hey wtf get out
>shits on the carpet
BRO WHAT THE HELL
>steps on it and smears it
STOP
>"haha lol rent free"
The people who hate them brought it into this topic in the first place for no reason but to have another place to b***h about it.
It's absolutely rent free and unhealthy to obsess over something you hate so much.
Please get a job, or get involved in politics to put a stop to it. Reminding us they exist accomplishes nothing.
It's extra sad that you're still obsessed about them on Christmas.
Anti troony posters bring up trannies more than anybody else does on the site its annoying
not to mention they end up derailing threads most of the time from what I can tell
Nah, trannies are more annoying, the ones that typically hate it are people who dilate.
Can't troony posters at least just switch to racism idk. I find racism more funny and less annoying. But you do you wierdo.
What do you think the actual ratio of troony-to-"people complaining about trannies" posts is?
Not true when you unbearable homosexuals can somehow get clocked over anonymous typing.
If the latter didn't exist, neither would the former
they would just latch onto something else to hste.
There's no such thing as "anti-trans". There's humans and then there's humans who wrongly think that people can or should change genders.
Telling me how to think is annoying as well. Guess what anti troony posters do constantly?
No one is telling you how to think. You were just being grammatically incorrect by using a non existent word.
You're completely serious aren't you? You just tried to say there's no such thing about the term anti trans existing. While also saying you aren't trying to tell me how to think? You're moronic and your next line is likely telling me to dilate cause ima troony or something for even debating against you on this.
I'm not saying the term doesn't exist. Any made up word can exist. It just makes no sense to use it any context. "Normal" is the more appropriate word
I've come to the conclusion then that anti trans people are just a subsect of normalgays lol. You're a fricking normie pest.
You don't have to be a turbo normie to understand transgenderism is a fake narcissistic fueled fetish. You just have to NOT be mentally deranged.
Whatever you say normalgay. You're just trying to convince everybody to be normal gay drones like yourself.
>Understating the ills of transgenderism makes you a drone.
It's the opposite actually.
>Anti trans people
That's just normal people.
A really specific trope i hate is the Holiday Special tropes. It's why I generally don't watch Holiday specials or Christmas movies.
>supposed to be a comedy
>characters who are usually close in the show get into a huge dramatic fight and one of the character (it's usually a dog who gets a little too rambunctious) runs away
>everything is somber
>meanwhile the background is covered in decorations
>characters have to go out and search for the one who ran away
I think the only one I enjoyed was the Charlie Brown christmas special.
Meta humor
Meta humor in general
>What are some cartoon tropes you're sick of because they're so predictable now?
basically any plot relying on a status quo change that will inevitably get reverted or otherwise undone by the episode's end, at this point it just feels like a complete waste of time for both the audience and the people making the show in the first place
It's even worse when they introduce a new character that hits it off with one of the main cast and we never see them again.
Not a cartoon one by any means, but it has to be said
>e-celeb gives opinion on [thing]
>people parrot that opinion word for word for years
>e-celeb makes video on (X)
>People make godawful "what do you think of (X)" "was (X) any good?" "sex with (X)"
>>"Oh, wow, how dare someone talk about cartoons and comics on Cinemaphile, right?"
Most of the time it's a stealth drama thread about the content creator rather than what they're discussing.
>Shrek 4 is good
AVGN being completely moronic ruined peoples' opinions of the N64 castlevania games to this day.
>Mysterious character with a helmet/mask on
>"Oh wow, it's Mr. Badass!"
>"Mr. Badass is so amazing, he's so cool!"
>"So mysterious, he's the best fighter ever!"
>Mr. Badass is revealed to be a girl for the sole purpose of shocking everyone
>She never wears her mask/helmet a single time after taking it off
There was a Halo Anthology thing I saw on Netflix once and one of the shorts hit this beat for beat. She dies and the short is like 10 munites long, but there wasn't any build up.
This is so common that when it happened in the Lego Movie 2, I didn't even realize that it was supposed to be some kind of shocking twist.
>Mr. Badass takes off mask/helmet, revealing long flowing hair
>everyone is shocked that Mr. Badass is a GIRL????
>"Nah, I'm a guy. I just have really long hair."
>show continues normally
Has this kind of subversion been used in cartoons yet?
>everyone becomes a jerk only for the sake of the plot
>group of friends who have known each other for years
>new guy shows up and is super shady
>one friend mentions this
>their lifelong friends suddenly think he's just doing it to be a dick and trust the new person over him because......
>friend turns out to be right about them being shady
>they get a token apology but everyone just completely ignores it ever happened
Especially moronic when the suspicious friend is also the one who's been reasonable and the characters have had zero issue trusting up until that point where the suddenly don't for no reason.
>What's wrong with you?!
>You're just jealous of Shady Steve!
>Stop being so petty and jealous, man!
>[Shady Steve was actually untrustworthy the whole time]
>apology, if it happens at all, is played for laughs.
>NOO I WAS FRIENDS FIRST!!!
mental illness
>Not trusting a friend over a stranger
Are you an idiot?
I can't even fathom being as maladjusted as you. I hope to never meet a person like you in real life.
This really pissed me off in Regular Show Season fricking EIGHT, where right after being blasted off into and trapped in space, being completely confused, the entire park gang (and Eileen) think Mordecai and Rigby are lying and being mean about random robots that show up being deceitful.
seriously what the frick was up with that? they have experienced way crazier shit during the eight seasons than robots, they should know by now not to trust anything magical
Clowns being evil and/or scary. Seriously, when was the last time something interesting was done with the concept? I can't think of anything later than the original Dead Rising.
Frick, meant to type "original", not "interesting". Point still stands, though. What was once subversive has become a cliche in itself.
The Clowns are literally Nephilim. Half-breeds of fallen angels.
What about an heroic scary clown? Has any writer tried this idea?
>live action adaptation of cartoon with kid characters
>not using the original cast to voice them
>not using the original cast to voice them
What?
>Liliana Mumy feet never ever
This movie was a mistake from conception, jfc
Even as a kid I never liked baby characters
>Character with a shitty home life or some other problems winds up improving their lot in life / coming into money / otherwise engaging in significant self -improvement.
>The plot contrives itself to reset them back to their shitty status quo by the end of the episode.
Daily reminder Steven Universe of all things did this right.
>Character is about to tell the truth
>Gets interupted to be told how their lie made things better
>"But anyway, what were you gonna say?"
>Character continues lie
>Character has a misunderstanding with another character that could literally be solved if they just communicate with one another
>DURRR WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME THAT EARLIER
>villain: Ha! you missed!
>hero: I wasn’t aiming for you!
hate this fricking twist so much
Announcing it is the problem.
Somehow, once again Jojo manages to pull if off well.
Cause it fits with the overall tone of the series and Araki knows when it's not a good time to play it
This joke got even more played out when the post-movie writers reused it.
>story sets place in the 80's/90's
it's starting to get dry, when are we getting more stories that take place before the 90's? what about the 50's? the 20's? hell, what about a show that takes place in the victorian era?
>wanting to mention 9/11 and smartphones
The 2000s will be 30 years old before you know it
And they need to be locked away, never to be spoken of ever again.
>new character that comes out of nowhere is instantly popular and threatens to take MC’s place in all his friend’s lives but he is actually evil, unhinged, and planned the whole thing
bonus points if the new character resembles the MC
Whatever this type of character is called. A Jar Jar Binks type I guess.
Having a leather jacket makes the character rebellious but it’s kind of cringe. One new example from the show Hailey’s on it even has leather jacket in the name