What are some characters that can cross the line between "these superpowers are lame" to "a true creative writer can turn them into a powerhouse"
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What are some characters that can cross the line between "these superpowers are lame" to "a true creative writer can turn them into a p...
Matter Eater Lad
Literally any character ever.
This. 90% of capeshit is, "yeah, I can generate antimatter, manipulate vectors, or create zero-point energy fields, but I think I'll just be a bank robber who gets treated as a one-issue, D-list villain or be a background filler member in a villain team that gets defeated off-panel.
Just believe in yourself.
How did he get the gum inside lung?
his power is to make gum moron it literally says it right there in the comic
But can he make gum like from 10 feet or does he make them from his fingers, how is he making them?
Congratulations, you’re autistic.
Thanks
>Oh NO I've been called out and have to explain and back up what I just said?! uhhh y-yyou're autistic!
homie we clearly see the wand he's holding has gum bubbles blowing out of it. He probably pointed it at the guy's mouth and shot them. You're autistic for being unable to get anything without it being spelled out.
>You're autistic for being unable to get anything without it being spelled out.
Yeah I know
Probably it's small dust that he shoots and it expands, but is it the wand or him with the wand there just to guide it, if it's not the source of the power but it says he does have the power so I don't know.
Very obviously drawn by someone who has never read western comics. Since the 80s, every writer has been obsessed with taking every hokey character and making them 'badass' by making their powers OP as hell.
Like who exactly? A lot of Spidey villains have extremely dangerous powersets but are treated as jokes if they are not a Goblin, symbiote, or Doc Ock (which is a far cry to when these villains initially debuted and actually presented a threat to Spidey). Flash villains are the only characters where there's been a recent effort to show dangerous their powers are, but that's just one group of characters compared to the thousands that comic writers treat as jokes.
>Electro
>Every X-men character except Toad
>Purple Man
>The Spot
>never read a comic with Magneto
He can bend light and reverse the poles of the earth, on top of the iron in the blood thing you're talking about.
read a comic with Magneto
Why do you assume that?
Does Magneto do at least 1 of those things in EVERY comic he's in?
In recent years? Pretty much.
He did the iron in the blood thing in X-men 2, a pretty popular movie you might have heard of.
He's threatened to reverse the magnetic poles a few times, probably most notably in Morrison's X-men run, which, regardless of your opinion of it, is considered a pretty essential read.
Idk about the bending light thing, can't remember if it's happened recently, could give someone a pass for not knowing that one.
If Magneto is doing all these feats with EM powers, why hasn't he won, or completely defeated the X-Men? It is Thanos and the stones all over again. Win and be happy and content that you won, don't undo it or self sabotage you Purple bastard.
Well for one thing, he's pretty much been on the X-men's side for over a decade now.
lol, why are you bothering, no-one on Cinemaphile reads comics.
It's for the conceit of the neverending story and drama anon. That's like being upset that Superman and the Flash don't auto-win most of their fights given how ludicrous their abilities
After all the things he put the X-Men through, why trust him? I never got this about comics and manga. Villains would never get the chance with me.
Ok Shadow The Hedgehog.
Such as?
b***h it's 2023 and the default for Killer Moth has always been "let's make him edgy and a giant moth monster" even though he never did that before he made a deal with Satan.
Has Color Kid gotten his moment yet?
green lantern
The problem is that a lot of "this power is actually totally busted" is completely idiotic.
As a human, I can propel gases around (breathing), separate molecules from on another, created dangerous gases (exhaling).
But to take those largely unconscious actions that I can't actually control at a molecular level and say that I am a great and power air-bender is silly.
I agree with you. With a lot of these cases , the writer actually gives the powers a major buff that just goes over the heads of most readers.
Characters like Hydro Man and Electro should be final boss-tier.
Green Lantern
The entirety of Jojo's Bizarre Adventure.
JoJo is different because stands often have very specific rules [Spoiler]that Araki tends to forget[/Spoiler] which explain how the power works and it's weaknesses
That's for main character stands that are around for a whole point like star finger and not being able to physically hit GE because it reflects damage. Enemy stand users that are only around for a few chapters don't often have that problem because they're not in the story long enough for him to forget. Stuff like making lying and a tiny shark a real threat.
Magnetic powers in western comics
>Throwing a few cars at the hero
Magnetic powers in manga
>Turning the iron in a person's blood into razor blades
There was that one time where he ripped out Logan's adamantium that was pretty cool.
>Turning the iron in a person's blood into razor blades
Absolutely terrifying.
Plastic Man
More of a glass cannon
It's not about power levels, it's just using the character creatively for the sake of entertainment. Spot doesn't have to be a world ender, merely a nigh impossible to contain crook that has an extremely versatile power.
I'll give you an example: Leapfrog, specifically the second one, a Daredevil villain. All that's really required for him is the obvious frog theme, and you can do whatever you want with this smash and grab thief. Make him similar to White Rabbit, a man with funds who wants to be a career criminal. In this case he specializes in aquatic or even sewer navigating jobs. Our literal frogman on the team.
I'm all for making this a C or D list villain workshop thread.
How would you buff Brick-Frog from Venture Bros?
Due to an accident with chemicals and cement, he has brick like skin under the suit, being able to withstand very hard blows and bullets, also he can easily withdraw bricks from any location with his hardened nails and adhesive frog touch, even from a strengthened wall, he just digs it up leaving a perfect hole and throws it with a killing speed. He has also trained his throwing powers so precise that he can throw a brick through the hole he made digging up the brick making attacks through walls easy and deadly.
They already upgraded Brick Frog in the movie, you fricking posers
Yeah but they only show him dead.
He didn't die. Did you even watch the movie?
I mustve misremembered. I could have sworn he was pictured dead in the wreckage
When did he die? It only showed a few of the henchmen dying in the heist.
I think a lot of the time it's just a matter of the original creator of a character and their powers not really putting much thought into the practical applications of those powers, and then a subsequent creator actually realizing what they should be capable of given their powerset. It can be done in an edgy way, but I like it when it's written as the character actually training and learning their own limitations instead of "goofy character, but now they're a total edgelord".
How the frick did anyone ever think that the Spot wasn't OP? It's fricking obvious.
80% of joke villains become OP when its just "X power but now opening inside of you"
Quiz, full stop. The girl is literal reality warper tier but gets so little play.
I hate this take, turning Spot into a complete powerhouse is easy. The challenge is trying to keep someone like him grounded and interesting. Anyone could make him strong