What the frick did you just fricking say about me, you little pseud? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Temple University screewriting program, and I've been involved in numerous rewrites for Paramount, and I have over 300 iMDB credits. I am trained in independent filmmaking and I'm the top script doctor in the entire US film industry. You are nothing to me but just another fanboy. I will wipe you the frick out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fricking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fricker. As we speak I am contacting my vast network of Twitter-based film critics across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, MAGAt. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fricking dead, chud. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can cancel you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my contacts in film journalism. Not only am I extensively trained in editing, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States entertainment industry and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fricking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will write fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fricking dead, kiddo.
>I've seen well over 3000 movies, and written 3 screenplays. I've studied Kurosawa, Kubrick, Tarantino, and Scorsese. I saw Wings when they remastered it in 2012 at the TCM Film Festival. I also studied Shakespeare.
Just because someone studies something doesn't mean they understand it. He clearly doesn't if after all that he thinks that is one of the best lines he's ever heard. Also I find how he incorrectly puts commas after "and" annoying.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_comma
Of course, this doesn't stop this guy from being a pretentious wienersucker. His favorite film is probably 2001 or Citizen Kane.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_comma
Of course, this doesn't stop this guy from being a pretentious wienersucker. His favorite film is probably 2001 or Citizen Kane.
It's trivially easy to score cheap points online by belittling or dismissing, which is exactly what that zucc guy did, and it's that zucc guy that is actually the pretentious one.
The abrams dude decided to defend himself (in the most pathetic way possible) instead of just challenging zucc to recite some better lines.
Probably. I mean he has a Star Wars avatar so do you think he understood any of it? I believe he had 3000 movies showing on his TV but that's how I would describe what happened. The kind of person who enters a thread for a movie they've seen and writes >it was good
I started using letterboxd to log all the films I watch, and I hate the reviewers so much. I've had many occasions where I log and rate a film, then look at the popular reviews and it's just people claiming the film made no sense. When I look at their profiles, they're always people who have watched 1000's of films.
Do they focus so much on consuming that they never bother to reflect on what they've watched?
>Do they focus so much on consuming that they never bother to reflect on what they've watched?
Uh... probably. I don't watch much at all so I can think about a movie for months. If a person watches 1000 films, can they remember them all? Can they name all the characters? If they can't then why do they do it. I don't get it. If you can't remember 1000 then don't watch 1000. I watch as many as I can remember. I've seen four movies this year and I remember everything about them.
Interesting. I think it's fine to watch a large amount of movies even if you do end up forgetting details, but I usually watch a film and take a little bit of time afterwards to analyze it to the best of my ability and get a full understanding. The reflection also ingrains it into my mind a bit and makes me think about better ones at later dates, occasionally causing an epiphany about something.
What are the four movies, brother?
They were Aftersun, Decision to Leave, The Pale Blue Eye and Infinity Pool.
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I've been meaning to check out Decision to Leave; I always see it listed on avistaz. Would you recommend any of the others?
11 months ago
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The first two are the best of the four and Decision to Leave is very good. Aftersun's lead actor was nominated for Best Actor at the last Oscars; That movie is depression kino.
11 months ago
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Looks frickin gorgeous. I'll make sure to watch DtL and Aftersun, brother.
11 months ago
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there were a lot of really good films last year. Aftersun, banshees, triangle of sadness, tar, the whale, babylon (my second favorite), nope, top gun, bardo, broker, blonde, bones and all, fast e feel love. But decision to leave really is far above everything else, it's top of the decade material. Park really knows how to make a film
11 months ago
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>looks nice >garbage writing
many such cases in worst korea
>look at the popular reviews and it's just people claiming the film made no sense
i use it as a film log as well and it seems like almost all the time the popular reviews are either people being funny or amateur film reviewers with a link to their podcast/yt/blog at the end
Yep, popular reviews are almost always that, but as I look at more obscure films and shorts I've noticed an abnormal amount of popular reviews that are just people shitting on the works and calling them incomprehensible. I don't understand why someone would go out of their way to watch the most niche shit possible just to complain about it without even reflecting on the film, but it seems to be a common sentiment considering people leave likes on these reviews.
Also, there's one popular reviewer I've seen on multiple arthouse films/shorts who stated the work had a "misleading title" when it was perfectly titled in a way that helps the viewer understand what they're watching.
Whenever you see someone bragging about 'I've consumed over X number of this type of media', you can guarantee they treat it like a fricking checklist and just tear through stuff without actually like processing what they're watching/reading/whatever. They just get to the end, flush their brain, then immediately move on to the next thing
I don't think it's a great line. Can you love someone that's dead? Explain that to me. If the person you love is dead then you loved them and it's past tense now.
Yes of course you can. You can love people not present. If your love is away - the other side of the world - then you still love them. It is not past tense.
Other side of the world is different to dead so thanks for that. You can't stop replying to me because I think you're a woman and I don't speak to women.
Lol. I don't think my refusal to speak to women makes me a king. I just think women are lesser and I don't like people in general. I am impressed by my ability to tell the gender and race of a person even though everyone is anonymous.
I love women. I love the way they look and the fact that you can have children with them, but it's like why is speaking necessary.
Other side of the world is different to dead so thanks for that. You can't stop replying to me because I think you're a woman and I don't speak to women.
You sound severely autistic. >I don't speak to women.
No kidding?
You can love someone that's dead and miss them. The fact that you still love them despite them not being around anymore is what the dude is defining as grief.
I think it's a pretty good line, but the dude is blowing this out of proportions if he thinks it's one of the best written lines of all time
>The fact that you still love them despite them not being around anymore is what the dude is defining as grief.
Hm... that actually makes sense. I guess I've never loved anyone if I've never grieved. I had a friend in high school who just disappeared one day and I never saw him again. I doubt I ever will. People might think I'm incapable of love but I've cried because something happened to my waifu in a movie so it's like I have selective empathy. I just feel nothing for strangers.
Is that not love? Why would I cry for someone unless I loved them? I'm sad because something bad is happening to someone I like. I don't like any of you so just being around you is making me sad. I'll filter this thread now and you can enjoy each other's company. I'm sure that will be fun.
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>Is that not love?
It's called empathy and you are obviously only capable of feeling empathy for something you want to frick, in other words, your 2D waifu, so yeah, safe to say you dont know what love is.
What you describe is the beginnings of infatuation.
But why would they have grief over death in this universe? Why wouldn't you laugh in their face? There are fricking gods in their universe. There's a fricking literal soul stone in their universe. What more proof do you need of higher powers than literal fricking higher powers? If there was a consistent set of rules i'd understand, but this pretentious bullshit is akin to putting your own balls in a vice and pattibg your back for being so rebellious.
But it's not an if you dense, dumb, c**tless frick. Show me the real life tony stark, or thanos, or frick lets make it as easy as possible, show me where wakandas located on the map.
it's a good line in a novel or something, but natural dialogue doesn't sound like that, so when you hear it in a movie or show it sounds cringe and unnatural being verbalized
it's literally a hallmark card tier idea and people were cooming over it as if it were the deepest thing ever, and it's also worded in a pretentious and maudlin way
It is not. It's the overwrought, corny, saccarhine tripe you find on the front of a Hallmark card. The only other place a line like that would find a home is in a soap opera.
Currently working this into a new Navy Seals pasta for when people disagree with my (correct) opinions >What the FRICK did you just say to me, you little b***h? I'll have you know I've seen over 3,000 films
I love cringekino. But this, this is everything. The original post. The line in the movie. And of course the piece de resistance, Henry James Abrams. A trilogy of cringe, each worse than the other. Magnificent.
>what is grief if not love perservering >nevermind Wanda gotta go my planet needs me >is not present or mentioned in any of the endless multiverses in Multiverse of Madness
I believe Truffaut saw 10,000, and I presume Tarantino and Scorsese would be the ssimilar. Kurosawa probably less but he was influenced by painting and theater also.
kek I was about to say Kurosawa was probably more influenced by theater because of his Shakespeare adaptations. I bet all the Right Bank directors of French New Wave saw shitloads like Truffaut, but it makes me wonder how many films the Left Bank directors had seen prior to their debuts.
How did everyone in the 2010s buy into this marvel shit like they've never seen movies before? If it was just zoomers I could kind of understand, even though when I was a teenager I constantly torrented older shit to watch, but it was also adults becoming suddenly obsessed with marvel or star wars or whatever gay crap was coming out.
I'm not writing for a TV show. You asked for a definition of grief. My "line" won't win any awards either. That's my point. The OP line is not profound or deep or unusual.
What is a line that is profound or deep in your opinion?
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Not that anon but this quote from The Pale Blue Eye comes to mind, spoken by the protagonist (who's investigating a military school). >I do believe that the Academy takes away the young man's will. Advances him with regulations and rules. Deprives him of reason. It makes him less human.
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Not him, but check out Ingmar Bergman if you want profound dialogue. His films are highly quotable and thought provoking.
The Hour of the Wolf has an artist get his ego stroked by people who ask how he stays humble as they assert he has success and superiority in regards to the layman. >I simply consider the insignificance of art in the human world to be brought back down to earth
11 months ago
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That's a good one.
My favorite is Winter Light.
11 months ago
Anonymous
This isn't profound at all, lol. It's just a retelling of a story from The Bible and one man's thoughts on the story. You immediately realise that one can empathise with Jesus when he thought God had abandoned him because God doesn't speak to us either. People who watch old movies really are pseudointellectuals and I don't like any of them.
11 months ago
Anonymous
We're discussing good dialogue, but somehow that discussion has been mixed up with an idea about profudity.
Let's see your profound dialogue example.
11 months ago
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>Let's see your profound dialogue example.
This was my example:
Not that anon but this quote from The Pale Blue Eye comes to mind, spoken by the protagonist (who's investigating a military school). >I do believe that the Academy takes away the young man's will. Advances him with regulations and rules. Deprives him of reason. It makes him less human.
I like that more than the shitty video you made me watch.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I didn't find that particulary profound, personally. I think the idea that military training is purposely dehumanising is pretty self-evident.
I think the discussion needs to focus on 'good' dialogue not 'profound' dialogue, since what a given person finds profound or not depends on what their existing view of the world is, and of course each person has a different view.
Good dialogue does not have to be profound.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Okay, Reddit. I was going to explain why it's profound but I won't anymore and I'll just hide your post so don't bother replying to me. I need to go filter threads full of people like you, which is all I do anymore.
11 months ago
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>ok boogeyman, I will hide your posts now because I'm a little pussy
What a profound homosexual.
4000 movies is only 1 per week.
I'm sure I've seen at least 2000 and never watched anything like it was on a checklist, to say I had.
I've probably spent more time on Cinemaphile than watching new movies.
What the frick did you just fricking say about me, you little b***h? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in Film School, and I've been involved in numerous secret lectures on Stanley Kubrick, and I have seen over 3000 confirmed Pictures. I am trained in Film Directing and I'm the top internet critic in the entire US cinema scene. You are nothing to me but just another plebeian. I will wipe you the frick out with analysis the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fricking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fricker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of journalists across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fricking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can outwit you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my knowledge of Shakespeare. Not only am I extensively trained in cinematic analysis, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Turner Classic Library and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fricking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fricking dead, kiddo.
Is that really the root of it? That it's a pretty good sentiment but wrapped up in very hokey phrasing so that it just ends up sounding like a fortune cookie?
>if you didn't watch 3000 movies, your opinion is worth less compared to his.
If he watched 3000 movies and he can't tell me anything about them, does it matter? Please think about that. He has a Star Wars picture as his profile pic.
I've always thought it was JJ Abrams son who tweeted this but apparently its just a massive coincidence and its a seperate Henry Abrams who is like 10 years older.
I'm convinced people who mock this line don't understand that in this context 'perservering' assumes its plain meaning of 'continuing to exist', not its meaning of 'straining with effort'.
I mock it because it's a stupid line. People are saddened by death because they have no faith whatsoever and they believe in nothing; Why else would they be sad? The person is in a better place so there's nothing to be sad about.
The people of Cinemaphile should be afraid because they could end up somewhere worse than this place.
Absolute midwit, assuming that anyone who thought the line was dumb didn't understand the meaning of the very common word
>character confides in their partner that their grief is overwhelming them >their partner needs to say something that will let them move on from their grief
write those lines
go on, let's see you do it
>character confides in their partner that their grief is overwhelming them >their partner needs to say something that will let them move on from their grief
Why? You can't just say something that magically makes someone "move on" from immense grief
>Wanda: It's just like this wave washing over me again and again. It knocks me down and when I try to stand up, it just comes for me again. And I can't... It's gonna drown me. >Vision: *shrugs* >*credits roll*
>You can't just say something that magically makes someone "move on" from immense grief
I did it for someone on Cinemaphile but I'm also a lot smarter than all of you. I just quoted a Bible passage and explained it and they felt a lot better. Their dad had just died or something.
No, that actually happened. I wouldn't lie to any of you because I don't like any of you. Thanks for giving me an image to filter. Please doubt I'm doing that.
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>believes in the bible >believes anons
Guess its true you suck baby dicks cus some anon on Cinemaphile said so.
It's a fricking platitude, whats so fricking hard to understand about that. >theres plenty more fish in the sea
Honestly, one of the best lines I've ever heard in anything ever.
Lots of people got mad at this tweet mostly because it's someone praising the MCU and the MCU is le bad because it's Marvel slop and not DC slop and because it's Disney
There's nothing wrong with the line itself. I believe the reaction to the tweet is because of how cringe rhe tweet expresses praise for the line. It's what we've come to call Milennial writing. Moreover, a woman made that tweet, which boosts the cringe factor exponentially. This creates an involuntary contempt for the thing which she's praising.
>get off the vent or ill have you bent >eat shit and die
and >your mother you fricking freak, i swear to fricking god when i fricking find you imma rip your fricking head off and youll be a goddamn gink alright >blow it out your asssss
There's nothing wrong with the line itself. I believe the reaction to the tweet is because of how cringe rhe tweet expresses praise for the line. It's what we've come to call Milennial writing. Moreover, a woman made that tweet, which boosts the cringe factor exponentially. This creates an involuntary contempt for the thing which she's praising.
if you think that line has any literary merit you are an absolute moron.
Here is what good writing looks like: >It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. And sometimes you didn't want to know the end. Because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it’s only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you. That meant something, even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back, only they didn’t. They kept going, because they were holding on to something. That there is some good in this world, and it's worth fighting for.
just me or are zoomers super hyperbolic? every single mediocre scene or line is so "amazing, some of the best ever" etc. reminds me of that shot of thanos in his dumb green screen world and everyone went on about how it's the best "cinematography" in the world
You can really feel the pain of the woman who wrote it. The frustration of constantly being told, "no, that's kind of dumb, let's do something else instead," at writers' meetings.
How do you ls k so much self awareness that you namedrop Tarantino. Christ all fricking mighty. I believe he's sincere in thinking 3k is loads too, rather than just what your average film fan watches growing up.
Amy getting BTFO by Laurie.
>I have degree in Film Directing and seen well over 3000 movies...
Henry James Abrams is the Navy Seal is film snobs
What the frick did you just fricking say about me, you little pseud? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Temple University screewriting program, and I've been involved in numerous rewrites for Paramount, and I have over 300 iMDB credits. I am trained in independent filmmaking and I'm the top script doctor in the entire US film industry. You are nothing to me but just another fanboy. I will wipe you the frick out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fricking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fricker. As we speak I am contacting my vast network of Twitter-based film critics across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, MAGAt. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fricking dead, chud. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can cancel you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my contacts in film journalism. Not only am I extensively trained in editing, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States entertainment industry and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fricking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will write fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fricking dead, kiddo.
mention something about having a most liked screenplay on the Black List and it's perfect lel
>I've seen well over 3000 movies, and written 3 screenplays. I've studied Kurosawa, Kubrick, Tarantino, and Scorsese. I saw Wings when they remastered it in 2012 at the TCM Film Festival. I also studied Shakespeare.
Just because someone studies something doesn't mean they understand it. He clearly doesn't if after all that he thinks that is one of the best lines he's ever heard. Also I find how he incorrectly puts commas after "and" annoying.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_comma
Of course, this doesn't stop this guy from being a pretentious wienersucker. His favorite film is probably 2001 or Citizen Kane.
It's trivially easy to score cheap points online by belittling or dismissing, which is exactly what that zucc guy did, and it's that zucc guy that is actually the pretentious one.
The abrams dude decided to defend himself (in the most pathetic way possible) instead of just challenging zucc to recite some better lines.
and his avatar is Boba Fett, each of whose few lines is better than that one from the capeshit show
So did he just not understand any of those things he watched or read and uses as credentials?
Probably. I mean he has a Star Wars avatar so do you think he understood any of it? I believe he had 3000 movies showing on his TV but that's how I would describe what happened. The kind of person who enters a thread for a movie they've seen and writes
>it was good
>The kind of person who enters a thread for a movie they've seen and writes
>>it was good
i do that
I know.
I started using letterboxd to log all the films I watch, and I hate the reviewers so much. I've had many occasions where I log and rate a film, then look at the popular reviews and it's just people claiming the film made no sense. When I look at their profiles, they're always people who have watched 1000's of films.
Do they focus so much on consuming that they never bother to reflect on what they've watched?
>Do they focus so much on consuming that they never bother to reflect on what they've watched?
Uh... probably. I don't watch much at all so I can think about a movie for months. If a person watches 1000 films, can they remember them all? Can they name all the characters? If they can't then why do they do it. I don't get it. If you can't remember 1000 then don't watch 1000. I watch as many as I can remember. I've seen four movies this year and I remember everything about them.
Interesting. I think it's fine to watch a large amount of movies even if you do end up forgetting details, but I usually watch a film and take a little bit of time afterwards to analyze it to the best of my ability and get a full understanding. The reflection also ingrains it into my mind a bit and makes me think about better ones at later dates, occasionally causing an epiphany about something.
What are the four movies, brother?
>What are the four movies
They were Aftersun, Decision to Leave, The Pale Blue Eye and Infinity Pool.
I've been meaning to check out Decision to Leave; I always see it listed on avistaz. Would you recommend any of the others?
The first two are the best of the four and Decision to Leave is very good. Aftersun's lead actor was nominated for Best Actor at the last Oscars; That movie is depression kino.
Looks frickin gorgeous. I'll make sure to watch DtL and Aftersun, brother.
there were a lot of really good films last year. Aftersun, banshees, triangle of sadness, tar, the whale, babylon (my second favorite), nope, top gun, bardo, broker, blonde, bones and all, fast e feel love. But decision to leave really is far above everything else, it's top of the decade material. Park really knows how to make a film
>looks nice
>garbage writing
many such cases in worst korea
>look at the popular reviews and it's just people claiming the film made no sense
i use it as a film log as well and it seems like almost all the time the popular reviews are either people being funny or amateur film reviewers with a link to their podcast/yt/blog at the end
Yep, popular reviews are almost always that, but as I look at more obscure films and shorts I've noticed an abnormal amount of popular reviews that are just people shitting on the works and calling them incomprehensible. I don't understand why someone would go out of their way to watch the most niche shit possible just to complain about it without even reflecting on the film, but it seems to be a common sentiment considering people leave likes on these reviews.
Also, there's one popular reviewer I've seen on multiple arthouse films/shorts who stated the work had a "misleading title" when it was perfectly titled in a way that helps the viewer understand what they're watching.
Whenever you see someone bragging about 'I've consumed over X number of this type of media', you can guarantee they treat it like a fricking checklist and just tear through stuff without actually like processing what they're watching/reading/whatever. They just get to the end, flush their brain, then immediately move on to the next thing
>I have degree in Film Directing
cool, what has he directed?
>I have seen over 200 animes
as cringe as the abrams guy is, its is a great line
I don't think it's a great line. Can you love someone that's dead? Explain that to me. If the person you love is dead then you loved them and it's past tense now.
Yes of course you can. You can love people not present. If your love is away - the other side of the world - then you still love them. It is not past tense.
Other side of the world is different to dead so thanks for that. You can't stop replying to me because I think you're a woman and I don't speak to women.
I can tell.
You can stop*
You dropped this senpai.
Lol. I don't think my refusal to speak to women makes me a king. I just think women are lesser and I don't like people in general. I am impressed by my ability to tell the gender and race of a person even though everyone is anonymous.
I love women. I love the way they look and the fact that you can have children with them, but it's like why is speaking necessary.
Fricking jej
Imagine being the guy they sent to that bullshit.
You sound severely autistic.
>I don't speak to women.
No kidding?
You can love someone that's dead and miss them. The fact that you still love them despite them not being around anymore is what the dude is defining as grief.
I think it's a pretty good line, but the dude is blowing this out of proportions if he thinks it's one of the best written lines of all time
>The fact that you still love them despite them not being around anymore is what the dude is defining as grief.
Hm... that actually makes sense. I guess I've never loved anyone if I've never grieved. I had a friend in high school who just disappeared one day and I never saw him again. I doubt I ever will. People might think I'm incapable of love but I've cried because something happened to my waifu in a movie so it's like I have selective empathy. I just feel nothing for strangers.
>but I've cried because something happened to my waifu
yeah we can tell you dont know what love is.
Is that not love? Why would I cry for someone unless I loved them? I'm sad because something bad is happening to someone I like. I don't like any of you so just being around you is making me sad. I'll filter this thread now and you can enjoy each other's company. I'm sure that will be fun.
>Is that not love?
It's called empathy and you are obviously only capable of feeling empathy for something you want to frick, in other words, your 2D waifu, so yeah, safe to say you dont know what love is.
What you describe is the beginnings of infatuation.
But why would they have grief over death in this universe? Why wouldn't you laugh in their face? There are fricking gods in their universe. There's a fricking literal soul stone in their universe. What more proof do you need of higher powers than literal fricking higher powers? If there was a consistent set of rules i'd understand, but this pretentious bullshit is akin to putting your own balls in a vice and pattibg your back for being so rebellious.
>people can't be sad about people dying if there is a god
seriously, are you on the spectrum?
i'd get tested if i were you
But it's not an if you dense, dumb, c**tless frick. Show me the real life tony stark, or thanos, or frick lets make it as easy as possible, show me where wakandas located on the map.
it's a good line in a novel or something, but natural dialogue doesn't sound like that, so when you hear it in a movie or show it sounds cringe and unnatural being verbalized
It's Vision though. He has always been given unnatrual sounding dialogue since he's an artificial being.
oh ok i didnt watch anything past endgame and just assumed it was wanda. that's fine then
it's literally a hallmark card tier idea and people were cooming over it as if it were the deepest thing ever, and it's also worded in a pretentious and maudlin way
It is not. It's the overwrought, corny, saccarhine tripe you find on the front of a Hallmark card. The only other place a line like that would find a home is in a soap opera.
Currently working this into a new Navy Seals pasta for when people disagree with my (correct) opinions
>What the FRICK did you just say to me, you little b***h? I'll have you know I've seen over 3,000 films
>What the frick did you just say to me? I have over 3000 confirmed viewings...
I love cringekino. But this, this is everything. The original post. The line in the movie. And of course the piece de resistance, Henry James Abrams. A trilogy of cringe, each worse than the other. Magnificent.
>what is grief if not love perservering
>nevermind Wanda gotta go my planet needs me
>is not present or mentioned in any of the endless multiverses in Multiverse of Madness
That love didn't perservere for very long lmao.
I wonder how many films Kurosawa, Kubrick, Tarantino and Scorsese had watched before making one themselves?
Presumably they began directing because of their love for film, so probably many.
I believe Truffaut saw 10,000, and I presume Tarantino and Scorsese would be the ssimilar. Kurosawa probably less but he was influenced by painting and theater also.
kek I was about to say Kurosawa was probably more influenced by theater because of his Shakespeare adaptations. I bet all the Right Bank directors of French New Wave saw shitloads like Truffaut, but it makes me wonder how many films the Left Bank directors had seen prior to their debuts.
How did everyone in the 2010s buy into this marvel shit like they've never seen movies before? If it was just zoomers I could kind of understand, even though when I was a teenager I constantly torrented older shit to watch, but it was also adults becoming suddenly obsessed with marvel or star wars or whatever gay crap was coming out.
If Hollywood screenwriters are in awe of this line, it's no wonder Hollywood is dying.
Define grief.
Sadness caused by loss.
That's so poetic, Anon. You should definitely continue belittling screenwriters.
I'm not writing for a TV show. You asked for a definition of grief. My "line" won't win any awards either. That's my point. The OP line is not profound or deep or unusual.
What is a line that is profound or deep in your opinion?
Not that anon but this quote from The Pale Blue Eye comes to mind, spoken by the protagonist (who's investigating a military school).
>I do believe that the Academy takes away the young man's will. Advances him with regulations and rules. Deprives him of reason. It makes him less human.
Not him, but check out Ingmar Bergman if you want profound dialogue. His films are highly quotable and thought provoking.
The Hour of the Wolf has an artist get his ego stroked by people who ask how he stays humble as they assert he has success and superiority in regards to the layman.
>I simply consider the insignificance of art in the human world to be brought back down to earth
That's a good one.
My favorite is Winter Light.
This isn't profound at all, lol. It's just a retelling of a story from The Bible and one man's thoughts on the story. You immediately realise that one can empathise with Jesus when he thought God had abandoned him because God doesn't speak to us either. People who watch old movies really are pseudointellectuals and I don't like any of them.
We're discussing good dialogue, but somehow that discussion has been mixed up with an idea about profudity.
Let's see your profound dialogue example.
>Let's see your profound dialogue example.
This was my example:
I like that more than the shitty video you made me watch.
I didn't find that particulary profound, personally. I think the idea that military training is purposely dehumanising is pretty self-evident.
I think the discussion needs to focus on 'good' dialogue not 'profound' dialogue, since what a given person finds profound or not depends on what their existing view of the world is, and of course each person has a different view.
Good dialogue does not have to be profound.
Okay, Reddit. I was going to explain why it's profound but I won't anymore and I'll just hide your post so don't bother replying to me. I need to go filter threads full of people like you, which is all I do anymore.
>ok boogeyman, I will hide your posts now because I'm a little pussy
What a profound homosexual.
What is profound but thought persevering?
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Is this what we'll lose if the writer's strike continues? Oh no...
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But what is pork, if not pig persevering?
Lynchian. I expect to see a variation of this in Twin Peaks season 4.
But what is Sneed, if not Chuck perservering?
How much does Disney pay morons like this to shill their dogshit TV shows on Twitter nowadays?
This is the film gay version "What the frick did you just say about me, you little b***h?"
4000 movies is only 1 per week.
I'm sure I've seen at least 2000 and never watched anything like it was on a checklist, to say I had.
I've probably spent more time on Cinemaphile than watching new movies.
>I've probably spent more time on Cinemaphile than watching new movies.
That's nice but I've spent more time on Cinemaphile than sleeping so your stat isn't very impressive.
What the frick did you just fricking say about me, you little b***h? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in Film School, and I've been involved in numerous secret lectures on Stanley Kubrick, and I have seen over 3000 confirmed Pictures. I am trained in Film Directing and I'm the top internet critic in the entire US cinema scene. You are nothing to me but just another plebeian. I will wipe you the frick out with analysis the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fricking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fricker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of journalists across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fricking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can outwit you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my knowledge of Shakespeare. Not only am I extensively trained in cinematic analysis, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Turner Classic Library and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fricking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fricking dead, kiddo.
>I have access to the entire arsenal of the Turner Classic Library
I was going to make this but you beat me to the punch. Well done, anon.
What is pasta if not meme persevering?
Is that really the root of it? That it's a pretty good sentiment but wrapped up in very hokey phrasing so that it just ends up sounding like a fortune cookie?
No.
Memories are love perservering.
Grief is anguish and harmful to a person.
Other way around. It's a very trite idea that's been dressed up in pretty words to make it seem deeper than it is.
Even without regarding his other points, if you didn't watch 3000 movies, your opinion is worth less compared to his.
>if you didn't watch 3000 movies, your opinion is worth less compared to his.
If he watched 3000 movies and he can't tell me anything about them, does it matter? Please think about that. He has a Star Wars picture as his profile pic.
What is Sneed if not Chuck persevering?
The line is simply stupid. Do morons not know the definition of grief?
>And I've earned the right to say it, SUCKA
"I would tell you to go to hell, but I never want to see you again"
I've always thought it was JJ Abrams son who tweeted this but apparently its just a massive coincidence and its a seperate Henry Abrams who is like 10 years older.
I'm convinced people who mock this line don't understand that in this context 'perservering' assumes its plain meaning of 'continuing to exist', not its meaning of 'straining with effort'.
I mock it because it's a stupid line. People are saddened by death because they have no faith whatsoever and they believe in nothing; Why else would they be sad? The person is in a better place so there's nothing to be sad about.
The people of Cinemaphile should be afraid because they could end up somewhere worse than this place.
t. turboautist
>character confides in their partner that their grief is overwhelming them
>their partner needs to say something that will let them move on from their grief
write those lines
go on, let's see you do it
>character confides in their partner that their grief is overwhelming them
>their partner needs to say something that will let them move on from their grief
Why? You can't just say something that magically makes someone "move on" from immense grief
>Wanda: It's just like this wave washing over me again and again. It knocks me down and when I try to stand up, it just comes for me again. And I can't... It's gonna drown me.
>Vision: *shrugs*
>*credits roll*
No, why does the grief "need" to be resolved? You're trying to find an answer to a question that shouldn't be asked in the first place.
Because that's the story. Have you even watched the show?
Ah so its garbage, thanks for the admittance troon.
No.
I would simply write a better story.
>You can't just say something that magically makes someone "move on" from immense grief
I did it for someone on Cinemaphile but I'm also a lot smarter than all of you. I just quoted a Bible passage and explained it and they felt a lot better. Their dad had just died or something.
10/10 b8.
No, that actually happened. I wouldn't lie to any of you because I don't like any of you. Thanks for giving me an image to filter. Please doubt I'm doing that.
>believes in the bible
>believes anons
Guess its true you suck baby dicks cus some anon on Cinemaphile said so.
> but I'm also a lot smarter than all of you
I’m smarter than you
Absolute midwit, assuming that anyone who thought the line was dumb didn't understand the meaning of the very common word
How does that make it any less stupid?
It's a fricking platitude, whats so fricking hard to understand about that.
>theres plenty more fish in the sea
Honestly, one of the best lines I've ever heard in anything ever.
Lots of people got mad at this tweet mostly because it's someone praising the MCU and the MCU is le bad because it's Marvel slop and not DC slop and because it's Disney
But what's exactly wrong with this line?
There's nothing wrong with the line itself. I believe the reaction to the tweet is because of how cringe rhe tweet expresses praise for the line. It's what we've come to call Milennial writing. Moreover, a woman made that tweet, which boosts the cringe factor exponentially. This creates an involuntary contempt for the thing which she's praising.
She was clearly mocking the line and got 58k likes.
If only, anon. If only.
There's no such thing as university degrees in "film directing" fricking lol
Um ackshually
Goldsmiths is just a big nursery for arrested-development rich kids these days, so don't be too surprised
>get off the vent or ill have you bent
>eat shit and die
and
>your mother you fricking freak, i swear to fricking god when i fricking find you imma rip your fricking head off and youll be a goddamn gink alright
>blow it out your asssss
when does he say the n-word?
>Kurosawa
>Kubrick
>Tarantino
>Scorsese
oh so he hasn't seen a good movie
Are people nowadays so cynical to the point of hating that line?
if you think that line has any literary merit you are an absolute moron.
Here is what good writing looks like:
>It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. And sometimes you didn't want to know the end. Because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it’s only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you. That meant something, even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back, only they didn’t. They kept going, because they were holding on to something. That there is some good in this world, and it's worth fighting for.
>If you grieve over someone, you must have really loved them.
WOW! It's so DEEP! Like something out of SHAKESPEARE!
Wow these people should definitely go on strike
>I have a degree in film directing
This is so fricking sad. No examples of doing the job, merely wasting money learning the theory.
You're a grown man who lives with his mom. Relax.
My mom lives with me actually. She moved in after my father passed away and she helps with the grandkids. I love her very dearly.
just me or are zoomers super hyperbolic? every single mediocre scene or line is so "amazing, some of the best ever" etc. reminds me of that shot of thanos in his dumb green screen world and everyone went on about how it's the best "cinematography" in the world
You can really feel the pain of the woman who wrote it. The frustration of constantly being told, "no, that's kind of dumb, let's do something else instead," at writers' meetings.
Powerful.
How do you ls k so much self awareness that you namedrop Tarantino. Christ all fricking mighty. I believe he's sincere in thinking 3k is loads too, rather than just what your average film fan watches growing up.
How in the hell did he manage to study and take notes on Tarantino movies?
Every 50-60 year old who grew up watching the friday night 9pm movie once a week has watched 2k movies what the frick.
Ozu > Kurosawa