What are some of the dumbest arguments made inside a show/comic that were supposed to be taken seriously or be valid points?
Batman getting mad at Superman for sending Doomsday to the Phantom Zone in “The Doomsday Sanction” is still one of the dumbest exchanges I think I’ve ever heard. Bruce whines about Superman playing god like Doomsday isn’t a mindless monster that loves casually killing, can manhandle Superman, has zero remorse or care, and can essentially adapt to anything. He might have had a point if it was just some low to mid level villain, but having him mad about Doomsday seemed comically ridiculous.
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That was post or prior the justice lords? I think he was just scared they were crossing that line.
And I think that the Doomsday version of the DCAU is pretty sapient, not so much a walking killing machine.
It was post Justice Lords, but this wasn’t Joker being lobotomized. Batman had zero alternative to Doomsday. There’s nothing else you can do with him without him eventually killing people. Lords or not, Doomsday of all things is not the hill to die on.
>And I think that the Doomsday version of the DCAU is pretty sapient, not so much a walking killing machine.
Doomsday could talk, but it is made extremely clear that he has no conscience whatsoever and does not care about anything except killing Superman. Superman tries reasoning with him before sending him to the Phantom Zone and it was obvious he couldn’t.
They should've just locked Doomsday in jail you morons, not cast him to eternal damnation in the krypton hell dimension
...so back to Cadmus and the loving arms of Amanda Waller? Who could then experiment on him some more.
You do the crime you do the time. Batman's the only one here with basic morals and a brain, as usual.
>You do the crime you do the time.
Cool, then there's no problem with making him serve a life sentence in the one prison that can hold him.
Cooled-down lava can hold him. Put him in a normal prison cell. He deserves a trial and an actual sentence. Superman is not god and does not get to decide
hold on, i'm not seeing the difference here. the phantom zone is a place where he can't hurt anyone, jail is also a place where he can't hurt anyone, only that jail can be escaped
Jail is a just and due process. The Phantom Zone is illegal, inhumane, has zero chance of reform, repentance or rehabilitation and is false imprisonment making it ILLEGAL. Superman is a criminal and deserves to go to jail for that.
How is he supposed to fight Batman again if he can't excape?
Being stuck in Phantom Zone is akin to torture
Bruce Wayne is an investor in the for profit prison systems.
Phantom Zone can't be escaped by normal means.
Upside is depending on version you become ghost like and can just jack off all day to people who can never see or interact with you.
I can't tell if you're being serious or doing a bit. Regardless, you got a laugh out of me my friend.
See
Seethe
True, they should have found another way like heroes
hey dere buddy your coming with me, eh?
The Phantom Zone is a jail...for the worst of the worst that hail from Krypton.
>Dude actually brings up valid arguments about why people should be allowed to smoke pot the same way alcohol and tobacco are
>But pot is still LE BAD because reasons
weedbros............. we lost this one......................
Wait, that guy is smoking weed? Then why is he so angry?
I AM SILLY!!!
Because anti-drug PSAs don't have to conform to reality since they have to make drugs look as bad as possible. Of course, this means that when kids see real pot and real people that smoke pot and notice that they've been lied to, they're less likely to take anti-drug PSAs seriously anymore even when they're telling the truth.
Weed messes with your dopamine and serotonin receptors; the longer you use and the more potent the strain is, the worse the effects become.
But what really muddies the waters is that outside of the above, no one can say there's more debilitating effects as one person can develop psychoses like schizophrenia or neurotic behavior while another doesn't due to undetectable and untreatable risk factors.
This is why antis are so against it's legalization.
>"muh freedom" chud
>only cares because it'll let him be a degenerate without consequences
Every time. Why do they value actual freedom so little?
It goes back to the sexual revolution when degenerates like started using vague hedonistic platitudes. Of course he doesnt care about freedom, most people who "care" freedom care specifically about their own freedom. Corporate businessmen and such care about freedom because they are free to make money and whine oppression and communism (now) and tyranny (during the american war of independence) when the government puts restrictions on that
>you only care about freedom if you care about catering to me and NOT doing what I don't want you to do!
Is he trying to take flight in the third panel?
>Heh, looks like you don't have a billionaire teaching you how to be one of the most dexterous, coordinated martial arts acrobats on the planet, almost had me with that well reasoned argument, homosexual
>It's against the law!
every fricking piece of dialog this moron had she never did anything useful and sometime she made everything worse
>Doesn't believe in Souls or Gods
>Yet friends with a literal demigod and fought Darksied.
Atleast she actually did something unlike Wonder Woman.
The no kill thing has always been the most ridiculous fantasy. Plenty of people are more than justified in killing in self defense or defense of others. Police take it a little far sometimes. But basically no villain without a superpower should even be alive in comic universes, they'd long ago have been killed by vengeance or the authorities.
But they have to keep the characters alive even though I think some of them are pushing a century old now in the real world.
Heroes don't kill. If they did they'd be just as bad as the villains of evil that they fight.
The allies were just as bad as the nazis I see.
They were to the Germans, yes. But you wouldn’t get that.
They assist the nazis now, so yes
False
homosexual dumbass mentality
Due process. Respect the law.
Yeah respect it by not being a vigilante in the first place
Vigilantism is a neccesary evil for Batman to uphold the law. False imprisonment and murder is not.
The law is the best system that exists, edgy jasontodd coward
But false imprisonment happens under the law. Wrongful executions happen under the law.
If he appointed himself a vigilante then why stop? He just gave himself the job of the police and the police have the right to kill in self-defence
>If you think one death is fine if it stops more death, then shouldn't I kill you?
No because it would lead to more death. Is Batman even paying attention ot the argument?
> Is Batman even paying attention ot the argument?
No he's too stuck up his own ass to listen to anyone because he's a cucked schizo.
Jason is a mass murderer, it would lead to less death.
Obviously not if you thought about if for five seconds. His actions would clearly lower the murder rate in a place like Gotham.
Surely he could slip past Batman and do that, right? Is he that weak that he can't do it under the Bat's nose?
He can't sneak up past an old deranged man who wears a Bat costume, it's embarrassing. Man, I used to like Jason but now that I think about it, I don't even like em anymore.
>Is he that weak that he can't do it under the Bat's nose?
I see, you're trolling. Well done, you got me. Peace out.
It's a legitimate question. I guess he was just never a good vigilante.
You are mistaking killing with murder.
Murder is when someone genuinely innocent is killed for no or little reason.
The people Jason killed were all BUT innocent.
Batman is a gay who can’t tell the difference. He’s probably the one hero who doesn’t kill when necessary. There is no greater good with Batman. He’s too stupid to see that his solution doesn’t work.
>He’s probably the one hero who doesn’t kill when necessary
This applies to literally everyone in comics, given how all major heroes are alive.
Also, Batman was probably one of, if not the first characters TO kill in comics.
That's why these threads are so dumb. Intellectually you're aware of the real reason why he hasn't killed the Joker but you pretend they're real people.
No it fricking doesn't. It’s why it’s generally batman throwing a hissyfit because not everyone abides by his shit rule.
>because not everyone abides by his shit rule
It does, you just can't see the forest from the trees. Batman can't stop Superman, The Flash or whoever else from ripping Joker's vertebrae and shoving it down his throat. They won't do it. Wanna know why? Joker is a money maker. Galactus is a money maker. So on and so forth. With Batman it's written into his character because censorship was imposed in comics at an early point, and it became the canon explanation and excuse to why he doesn't deal with these types of people in some dark corner and just bury them in the mountains where no one will find them.
No duh. Doesn’t make DC any less shit.
You think Marvel is different?
I can understand the whole not killing rule here, but in his case it reached the absurd.
I can understand criminals and super villains that aren't that much of a threat or aren't full-blown evil, but when we have guys like the Joker, Zasz, Pyg and some really nasty pieces of work then this is beyond moronic to leave them live or stick them in Arkham if the judical system is that corrupt and incompetent.
Hell, in Joker's case in a normal situation he'd have the FBI breathing at the back of his neck like vengeful murder spirits for the shit he did.
Then again it's DC not wanting to kill off the Joker because he makes money and the no kill rule is a way to stop this.
Should've killed off the Joker, bring him back as some undead revenant and watch as Batman kills him off in increasingly ridiculous ways until he comes back after some time.
>Should've killed off the Joker, bring him back as some undead revenant and watch as Batman kills him off in increasingly ridiculous ways until he comes back after some time.
The first good idea I've seen the entire thread. But that's probably due to the fact that you're trying to come up with a good plot angle and not just trolling with no logic behind your argument.
Wanted only to present an alternative where the Joker gets killed off as much as people want him to get killed while DC can still get money from it.
This is why I fricking hate Batman now. I act like comic Batman doesn't exist and only watch the movies where he isn't downright moronic because of DC.
I just treat every encounter as a recent happening. Otherwise I would hate all comic book characters since they could've easily resolved every issue by now.
I bet it would take Dr Manhattan less than a year to fix the entire globe.
No I only feel better when I ignore Batman. Deleting comic Gotham from my mind helps me enjoy DC better. He's fine in the theatrical movies in short bursts but ugh in the comics? Just no. All thanks to DC and their dumbass editors. And I don't care about the Batfamily which is making it worse.
But all comic book characters are like this. Why hasn't, say, Spider-Man killed his entire rogues gallery by now?
I don't read Spiderman in the comics for a reason. I only watch the movies because the same issue persist and the stories are tiring.
Ok fair enough. I just treat every arc or story as a standalone and none of it really bothers me.
>Why hasn't, say, Spider-Man killed his entire rogues gallery by now?
Silence extremist. This is the problem with you. When you think kill you think kill all villains including those that have redeeming qualities.
This is what happens when people read too much Batman.
Spider-Man should've killed a few psychos a long time ago.
Do you think the law is totally flawless? Do you think no one ever finds loopholes?
It's a gimmick that allows for popular villains to stay alive and continue selling comics/merchandise and whatever else.
I agree with your logic but I can't really fault DC and Marvel's business sense here.
This is why I just treat every story arc as it's own thing. This way, I can logically justify Batman or Spider-Man not killing Joker/Carnage under the circumstances of a particularly gruesome or amoral crime.
The "throw em in jail" option works, but under the condition that this is a recent relapse from said villain, and they haven't already escaped a prison or an asylum for the 100th time.
I don't know if what I'm trying to say makes sense here but that's how I justify these events in my head.
They do it in comics because they’re meant to run forever. But it’s a different story for adaptations. Heroes can kill the bad guys in movies and tv and no one but comic buying nerds will care. The Avengers killed loads of dudes and general audiences cheered them on the whole way. Nobody really cares if guys like Spider-Man and Batman killed Carnage and the Joker respectively. Only nerds do.
I don't care either. These threads prove how cringy the fandoms are.
>Waaaahhh why couldn't batman or spider-man kill their villains, they're going to be resurrected anyway in 2 issues but I still want them to kill their villains because I'm underage and immature
looga this moron
Come again ESL?
>joker kills two morbillion people
>batman: NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT SHOOT HIM YOU CANT PUNCH HIM YOU CANT DONT TOUCH HIM
No one cares, nerd
>wants to kill two morbillion AND ONE people
>thinks killing more people this will fix murder
Idiot.
Sure it will. If the murderer is dead then he cant murder. But if the murderer is imprisoned he'll just break out
Doesn't work when the comics themselves address that Joker has escaped the same prison cell hundreds of times and killed thousands of people every time he gets out
>sometimes
Batman was right. Doomsday was a sentient being and a clone of Superman, he deserves the same rights as everybody else and should have served jailtime. No exceptions just because people like Clark are cowards. Batman would have done the right thing, not the easy thing.
Indeed. Superman should've rape Doomsday. Sending him to Phantom Zone doesn't make him learn anything
you dumbass Doomsday would just adapt a Acidic butthole that would melt Superman's wiener of Steel
I hate gayman and his no kill thing. Least interesting part of his character yet it dominates like 80% of his interactions
He wasn't mad about Doomsday being sent away, he was mad because it was one step closer to being the Justice Lords.
Why was doomsday able to speak? I don't get it.
Batman should have beat the shit out of Superman and taken away his powers with gold kryptonite then thrown him into a jail cell with his head cracking into the wall. See how he likes it, the superpowered moron
"If there's less easy ways for people to kill each other, than slippery slope evil dictatorship" is the most American shit I've ever read.
Superman is right about cigarettes though. And pitbulls should be mass executed.
Honestly, why not get rid of cigarettes? Having a plant that's of no benefit except to the people that sell it and harms the people that use it just because "freedom" is pretty dumb, and I say this as someone who has enjoyed smoking in the past. We don't need tobacco. The world would be better without tobacco.
I think a lot of americans have got it into their head that because Prohibition and the War on Drugs failed that means its impossible to get rid of or curtail any drug ever.
But drug eradication has succeeded many times before. Opium smokers used to be a very common sight a century ago, but now they're nonexistent
That, and we tend not to ban things that are profitable. Hell, we've recently started legalizing some profitable things.
Prohibition and the War on Drugs didn't fail because they made those drugs illegal, they failed because the government got in on the take so they had no incentive to actually do their jobs.
I think the war on drugs failed because they didn't ask why people were doing drugs.
sauce satan
It's based on a real thing. I just googled "rats addiction study" and looked for an image that got across what I was trying to say.
https://www.stuartmcmillen.com/comic/rat-park/
Prohibition failed because everyone and their mum could cook up alcohol in their bathtub using nothing but potato peels. Tobacco bans would fail for the same reason in America.
But there would be LESS. Why does everything have to be all or nothing?
You don't need a prohibition to make it less, though. Just tax the ever-loving shit out of it. Smokers already complain about how taxed it is, but it's nowhere near taxed enough for all the extra costs it puts on society in just littering and forest fires. Tax it and kids won't be able to afford starting the habit. Outlaw it and kids/rolling coal-type people will buy smuggled cigs just to rebel.
Maybe. At least the government would have more money. Although it would probably all go to the military anyway.
Yeah I wouldn't really trust the government with using the money properly, but anything that can cut down on cigarette butts littering every street and trail is a win in my book. Then again, that might be more easily curbed by enacting littering laws. Especially the trail ones. Punish them by making them pick up trash for a couple of months and with a huge fine because it's a wildfire risk whenever some moron throws their butt away, and then the cops will start to fine everyone they see throwing a butt away just like they fine people for 'speeding'.
exactly, dont work harder, work like a israelite
>Opium smokers used to be a very common sight a century ago, but now they're nonexistent
Because the drug changed forms, you moron. No one smokes opium because we've since learned how to refine and purify it. Maybe you've heard of a couple of the opium-derived drugs, morphine and heroin?
>hey guys, nobody smokes opium anymore, we won!
Care to explain pic related?
If its not from an opium pipe that its not the same drug anon
They're all derived from the same plant. Opium used to be prescribed by doctors as a pain reliever. Doctors didn't stop relying on it because of some revelation about the dangers of opium use; they stopped because we figured out how to isolate morphine which has similar but more powerful effects.
>Globally, opium has gradually been superseded by a variety of purified, semi-synthetic, and synthetic opioids with progressively stronger effects, and by other general anesthetics. This process began in 1804, when Friedrich Wilhelm Adam Sertürner first isolated morphine from the opium poppy.
>The process continued until 1817, when Sertürner published his results after thirteen years of research and a nearly disastrous trial on himself and three boys. The great advantage of purified morphine was that a patient could be treated with a known dose-whereas with raw plant material, as Gabriel Fallopius once lamented, "if soporifics are weak they do not help; if they are strong they are exceedingly dangerous."
Do you really think that if we went back in time, visited an opium den, and started handing out heroin, opium addicts wouldn't prefer it? The idea that we outlawed the once-common opium dens and as a result, opium addicts vanished is naïve at best. The people who would have been opium addicts in the 1800s are just addicted to modern opioids instead.
Good point. Then, why don't we get rid of comics and cartoons? They're of no benefit to anyone except the people selling them or using them for ad revenue, and they harm the people that use them by wasting time that could otherwise be spent working or studying or exercising.
>equating entertainment to poison
Yeah bro, that's a heckin epic point.
>If this then why dont we do completely unrelated things
He's doing exactly what Flash was doing in the panels I was complaining about.
You're moronic, anon
Go away, Flash
Because they release dopamine and other feel good hormones and people like that
Exactly.
Thanks.
In the event you're not trolling: humans must relax. No one can be on their hustle grind 24/7. But there are ways to relax that don't objectively do damage to everyone in their immediate vicinity.
Right, like smoking cigarettes in the designated areas.
Where they still damage everyone in the area. Hey, I've got an idea! Let's legalize fight clubs. The people are willingly fighting, right?
Those are already popular and legal forms of recreation.
You dont need cigarettes to relax
I know, that's what I'm saying.
There are other ways to relax
I AM AGREEING WITH YOU. YOU ARE AGREEING WITH ME. YOU HAVE SOMEHOW MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT I WROTE AND THOUGHT YOU DISAGREED WITH ME, BUT I ASSURE YOU WE AGREE.
Stop getting mad
Maybe if you didn't have nicotine withdrawal you'd be less on edge
I see, you were trolling me. Well done. Very subtle.
nta but I was the guy who posted this
because I didnt read youre whole post
You don't need a lot of things. You don't need air conditioning in your apartment/house. You don't need a car that goes over 60 miles an hour. You don't need to eat anything other than a nutrient paste to stay alive
Alcohol was very widespread amongst the pre-islamic arabs but Islam wiped out the practice in 20 years
Muslims hate fun, we know
America got rid of it... For a while. Back before The Constitution WAS PASSED DOWN BY WHITE JESUS DIRECTLY TO THE OUR FLAWLESS GOD KING FOUNDING FATHERS AND MUST NEVER BE ALTERED.
While significantly reduced it far from wiped it out and just how do you think you give everyone a fanatical devotion to some nutty religion banning alcohol, especially in the current year were we're less and less religious than ever.
There's still problems with that millenia later
https://www.arabnews.jp/en/saudi-arabia/article_69177/
because of tobacco company lobbying
Because it's none of your god damn business what other people do with there lives, as long as there not smoking right your face they're fine. By your logic we might as well just throw everyone in solitary confinement wrapped up in straight jackets so they can't hurt themselves.
>And pitbulls should be mass executed.
How about just making it illegal to breed pitbulls?
Why did he switch from "we should do this instead, here's why" to making a slippery slope strawman from his OWN point?
Couldn't he have just done that with Superman's idea and cut out the middleman?
It feels like the writer pivoted points WHILE he was writing this.
The cigarettes are supposed to be the beginning of the slippery slope. Because there's no way cigarettes kill more people than guns, right? Guns kill people instantly, cigarettes are just this perfectly normal way people unwind. But yeah, Flash is silly here.
Flash is right.
yeah
And this is the gayest post in the thread, your point? Neither of these characters exist and suddenly his point is even stronger. I hope your whole family gets gunned down for no reason. Really. You won't even pick up the stick.
Have fun shooting yourself.
Batman isn't a homosexual, he's just plain evil. He knowingly protects killers at the expense of their future victims and spends his free time planning ways to kill actual heroes. The only reason anyone would do this is if they actually liked watching innocent people die.
>guns magically force people to kill themselves
Snyder Chads didn't have this issue
Superman was fixed too.
Batman has saved the universe more times than a lot of people in the Justice League have
I really liked Batman before. But now I hate this homie. He's so messed up in the head that I sigh everytime I see this idiot show up in anything for that matter. Looking back, the Red Hood movie was just fricked up. Batman doesn't deserve to live.
I had that with Spider-Man so I understand your pain. But now he's taking bullet shots to protect Green Goblin. Venom at least doesn't have this issue.
Green Goblin isn't the worst offense, Carnage is.
Sentry did what Peter should've done like 50 years ago.
Yeah, Spider-Man's fun at first but then you realize he's endangering billions and is a hypocrite.
Look into Thomas Wayne
I still like batman but DC did superman too dirty for me to care anymore
Batman was my favorite. Superman 2nd. But now I'm moving onto Superman, because he doesn't piss me off. I can't do this Batman shit anymore. I never thought I would despise my favorite character but here we are.
Him having a gay son doesn't bother you? That's way worse
No, because I don't give a shit about Jon after DC ruined him. And I said I liked Superman, not superboy.
Why do you like Superman?
Superman canonically supports trannies and blm, he waves around a troony flag in multiple issues
No he doesn’t. And Batman is just as pro-LGBT you cuck. He has a lesbian cousin and a gay son, all of the Big 2 heroes are pro LGBT.
>No he doesn’t
lol
He supports his gay son.
Yes and Batman does too with his own son. Sorry your father didn’t give you the same support when you came out.
My father didn't a raise a homosexual like Clark Kent of the Daily Planet did.
>t. homosexual arguing on the cartoons and comics board about capehsit
Kek your father would be ashamed of what a failure you are if he hadn’t already disowned you. He wanted a man and instead he got a b***h.
>I-I know you are but what am I
I'm not the one defending this cuckoldry.
No you’re just the cuck kek
Not how it works but hey, you tried
>t. You
But I suppose you are the expert on all things cuck aren’t you
nta but you are looking lke the cuck
>if you think LGBT shit in comics is bad you're the cuck
I sometimes forget why I mainly avoid this board
You DO know where you are right anon? This isn’t Christian mingle, you’re on a board with gays and trannies, you’re as gay as they come.
>n-n-no he doesn't y-y-you're lying!!
OH NONONONONO SUPERhomosexualS WE ARE TRANNIES??????!!!!!!!!!!
Based. Superman and Batman believe everyone should have the right to live their truth. Hell Batman is practically bi himself.
>inb4 you start sperging out and pretending Batman isn’t pro troony and pro gay despite his gay son and gay cousin and gay “best friend”
>less retaded Fujo on tumblr
I love that flag and hope they go further with it. The rainbow was meant to represent everyone of different backgrounds, but it wasn't special enough for some people. Was that a /misc/ op? It seems like it.
Batman has a gay son in Tim. Jon has never been as insufferable as the Batfamily currently is. And up until recently Clark couldn’t even breed with humans, so who gives a shit about Jon. There’s still Conner if you care about muh bloodline.
Tim is not his son.
Yes he is moron. Bruce adopted Tim.
Not a biological son, sorry.
Ok Bruce Timm but outside of you the idea that Batman has super special genes that mean only his bloodline “matter” is stupid and people reject it.
Jon broke Harley out in Injusticeverse and lectured his Dad how he’s wrong to want to punish her for killing Lois (his mom)
>Tom Taylor
Everyone is insufferable as written by Taylor and Jon fricking told Harley off in that same series. He didn’t forgive her and didn’t like her, he just refused to let Murderman execute people whenever he felt like it. If you have a problem with that you’re moronic, and it’s nowhere near as bad as the Batfamily supporting Selina’s moronic plan to reduce crime.
Why did you like him in the first place?
Because I thought Batman was cool. And his moral seemed quite good. But slowly, I started to realize what this anon noticed
Now his so called cool persona and paranoia is just utterly obnoxious and stupid. Now this homie just comes off as plain evil to me. Not even an enjoyable villain type, just annoying.
That didn't bother me either because I don't give a shit about Tim.
If you think about it, Superman is way worse. He could kill every person in Arkham Asylum immediately if he wanted to, but he hasn't. He could probably even lock them up in the phantom zone or whatever.
> He could kill every person in Arkham Asylum immediately if he wanted to, but he hasn't
Not his job, what kind of moronic argument is this? And why do Batgays only obsess over Superman, Red Hood could do that but Batman doesn’t let him. Jason could clean out Gotham in a week if Batman wasn’t such a crybaby
>Not his job
How is it not his job? Isn't he on Earth to defend people?
And he does that all the time. Defending Earth doesn’t mean he’s under an obligation to kill at his whim. And Gotham is Batman’s turf, Batman explicitly orders everyone to stay out. That means it’s his fault if Joker starts murdering the city because Batman had to be a prick and forbid Flash from coming in.
>Defending Earth doesn’t mean he’s under an obligation to kill at his whim
Why not? He could take out every criminal in the world permanently.
Face it, Superman is the guiltiest person on planet Earth.
> Why not? He could take out every criminal in the world permanently.
Yes and that would make him a criminal himself moron. Murder is a crime. Besides so could Batman. All the Batmen in the Metal event did that. If Bruce truly cared he would create prep time plans for when his villains inevitably break out of prison but he doesn’t because he’s a pussy and a moron.
>Yes and that would make him a criminal himself moron
He wouldn't kill the innocents though, just the bad guys. Superman is an awful person.
> He wouldn't kill the innocents though, just the bad guys
Sounds like the state’s job to me. It’s Batman’s job to keep them locked up in Arkham which he sucks at because he’s a terrible person who hates innocents.
>Sounds like the state’s job to me
If it's the state job then why b***h about Batman? It's not his obligation either.
It's for their own good. If Flash interfered then Joker would kill everyone in Central City, too, starting with Iris. Superman disobeyed Batman once and look what happened:
With joker immunity yes. Realistically (which almost never happens when batwank/jokerwank is involved). Wally/Barry kills the joker and makes it look like an accident
And that won't bring Iris back. Joker will still have killed them and it'll be their fault for thinking they know better than Batman - the canonical smartest man on earth.
An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind - Ghandi
Me as well, Batman and Spiderman were the only capeshit I liked and now I cant enjoy Batman at all, I dont know where it went wrong but I genuinely hate this homie as well
Spider-Man is even more mind boggling because he has actual super powers and still refuses to do what's right.
cringe
You're fricking cringe for defending batcuckman and his shitty attitude.
>not murdering people
>"shitty attitude"
have a nice day if you want death so much edgy Jasongay
No fricking have a nice day you Batcucked Black person neanderthal. Frick Batman and his shitty ass nasty city. No seriously, frick that idiot.
>no argument
Die. If you wanna kill people for the "greater good" then have a nice day you psychopathic low-iq moron.
Maybe Batman should kill himself for the greater good. Then maybe his city wouldn't be a shitfest because everything he does is his fricking his fault for being a shitheaded loser.
>fast foward to Superman not doing shit about Gotham's situation either, despite it being child's play for him
Wow, what a hero kek.
>BUT WHAT ABOUT SUPERMAN
Why can’t Batgays defend Batman without deflecting to Superman?
They did the same shit in the GL thread. Everytime Batgays are under heat they start deflecting to another character.
Batchads btfo you in that thread and now you're salty lanterncuck
I don't give a shit about GL, I was just reading the thread. And the last thing I remember, Lanterngays had the last word.
Why can't Supergays defend Superman? I'll tell you why, even they know they can't. One is a mortal man, the other is a God who can end crime overnight. Assuming he didn't hate the Earth and humans which is obviously not the case.
>Immediately deflects back to Superman
Mental illness. You realize Batdaddy would beat you to a pulp if he was real right? Bruce only gets off on a beating up the poor and mentally ill. If he wanted to save Gotham he could use his money to provide a social security net.
It's true though. One is an ordinary guy and the other is a God-like being who has done jack shit to stop crime.
This thread actually made me realize how ridiculous Clark is. He's a straight up psychopath.
Extreme mental illness. Like every Bat related thread.
i think i just wanna kill people period
>you should not kill anyone for the greater good
>even a proven repeat offender raper and murderer who will easily escape from prison and repeat his crimes
he's not against the possibility of the rapist raping him. please understand
You should stop his crimes and put him back in jail then, idiot, not become a murderer as well by murdering him. By doing that you only add to the number of evil in the world and become just as bad as he is.
I wonder what's the line between "Batman not delivering the killing blow" & "not allowing criminals to get capital punishment"?
It would make sense for Batman to personally not wanting to off people, even if they are scum, but I don't think Batman should prevent a criminal from being sentence to the electric chair because that is still justice. He might prevent an innocent man from being falsely convicted to the chair but I don't see how Batman should be oppose to capital due justice for the unambiguously guilty.
>that picture
>dumbest arguments thread
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even the writers were afraid of superman god damn
>I know you were Invincible the entire time but you should've been giving me attention instead of saving people's lives!
I genuinely don't understand what the writers meant by transforming Amber from the comics into this
>Goes along with Mark's unconvincing "Clark is tricking Lois" shenanigans.
>For MONTHS
>He's fricking 50 IQ at it
>Blows off important relationship stuff to do Cecil's bidding
>Keeps promising to be honest from there on out, knowingly lying to her.
>Starts planning their entire college relationship experience, still going by the Silver Age playbook that no other super is adhering to.
>STILL can't share his "secret life"
Honestly she should have gained powers and become his super-villain.
Honestly, she should have been smeared my Omniman.
They probably got mad about being forced to race swap her and did the right thing about making it unlikeable. Pretty based if you ask me.
They had to make her bad because the ride Atom Eve is going to take Mark on will be some truly unhinged shit. Everyone would say he should go back to Amber. Funny thing is they still will once Eve really gets rolling unless they make some big cuts.
I don't even know why they were attracted to each other. Their meet-cute was so contrived.
I cant think of a single black woman character who has been written as stupid. I'm sure it's happened but I can't think of one. Real/Blonde Amber was pretty dumb and when they race swapped her their black woman writing senses kicked in and they had to make her smart/sassy/soulful.
And people have the gall to give me shit when I tell them that capeshit is inherently bad. Frick this pathetic genre.
>And people have the gall to give me shit when I tell them that capeshit is inherently bad.
because saying it's "inherent" is stupid. It's a genre conceived around power and revenge fantasies. Inherently, that's what it is. Adding stupid over complications and convoluted logistics isn't inherent to the genre, it's inherent to pretentious writers and corporate ownership
It's weird that they would just write Bruce being wrong like that.
Can't you literally take people out of the phantom zone using that little projector thing in the DCAU? Why would Batman act like Superman has crossed some line they can't be walked back from?
... Unless it's because he knows Doomsday is too dangerous to ever be let back out, in which case he's pretty much agreeing with Superman's decision.
Batman is moronic. His no kill rule is one of the dumbest shit I’ve ever seen in fiction. Doomsday should’ve plummeted raped his ass from the inside out. I hate hypocritical b***hes like him. Loser deserved to get koed by Harley. She had more common sense than him.
But anon, Batman IS Doomsday
>Even Batman’s nightmares are moronic
Go figure
>Nightmares
It happened
He was justified in doing that.
Batman’s fear are so utterly moronic. I don’t know what the frick happened to this character to be this dysfunctional and paranoid. Brave and Bold Batman is even better than him. I can’t even read his damn comics anymore because it’s filled with stupid soap opera shit made for women.
His fear was a metahuman destroying the Earth, I'd say it was justified.
Again soap opera shit for women.
You're giving women a lot of credit here, it's usually men who prevent such disasters.
And it’s usually women who enjoy moronic drama for the sake of drama.
Women enjoy every genre you can think of, especially moronic comedy for the sake of comedy.
No shit. But there are certain genres that attract more women and men. And shit soap opera drama and emotionally unstable b***h men are one of them.
Better than comedy.
Another one from Justice League.
Superman refuses to help Darkseid when gets attacked by Brainiac due to his past experiences. Batman tells him to get over with.
His past experiences where he gets brainwashed by Darkseid and forced to be a lackey who willing attacks Earth, harming his goodwill even when the brainwashing is undone and he beats the shit out of Darkseid.
He also turns out to be right to not help Darkseid.
Snyder Chads never had this issue. Both Superman and Batman knew when it's appropriate to kill.
>Chads
go back
It's hilarious cuz Reeve and Keaton's versions both killed with smiles on their faces, and yet they are praised.
They're praised rightfully for the most part. Movies and comics are different mediums.
Because general audiences don't care if heroes kill. Only nerds do.
It's less that it was Doomsday but the fact he's willing to use the Phantom Zone in the first place, if he could justify Doomsday then later down the road he could justify someone like Lex or Grodd.
You're right.
Tangentially related, if I was Superman, I'd never put anyone like Lex or Grodd in there. It's great for the random monster or average guy, but anyone with a galaxy brain is eventually going to figure out how to get out and drag everyone else with them. You're just setting yourself up for a bad time if you don't limit it to ultraviolent midwits and below.
If I wa Superman I wouldn't care about this planet or its life.
Whats the incentive for Superman to play hero with the planet he is on?
You gave me superman's power and you bet your ass this planet would be under my boot in 1 day.
Superman would do more good by taking over the planet by force and killing all villains.
That was Black Adam's approach, until they stopped him at least
Are you Mongul from Justice League?
>What inferior specimens he surrounds himself with. I took her down before
she even knew I was there, and I'll take this planet just as easily.
>I wonder where he thinks he is. Sitting on a throne ruling the universe, all you human garbage fawning at his feet?
>More honest, don't you think, than this pretense of being a selfless hero?
That episode made Mongul a top 5 DCAU villain for me. Literally everything he said was 10/10.
The Man who has everything is my favorite DCAU episode. It was just perfect. The music, writing, the intensity, emotion. Top notch.
I’d say my tops are For The Man Who Has Everything, Flash and Substance, Question Authority, Patriot Act, Heart of Ice, and Over The Edge.
I still say they dropped the ball in FtMWHE by making the "Burn" like a scream of anger. In the comics, it's clear that it's such a chilling line because it's the first time Superman goes truly emotionless and alien. It's so detached, clinical, and inhuman. I wish they had done it right. Great episode otherwise.
The villain being Doomsday literally kills that argument. You can put Grodd and Luthor in special cells. Doomsday you can’t.
Not to mention the Phantom Sone is basically just a maximum security prison anyways.
Funny thing is lex you'd have to put in 24/7 isolation due to his crazy shit like talking a person into killing themselves.
Cadmus kept Doomsday in a cell his whole life. They literally defeated him by trapping him in a box made of crude rock he couldn’t break out of.
Batman was always right.
>Cadmus kept Doomsday in a cell his whole life.
When he was younger or regenerating from a major wound.
He made his way back to earth the first time, second time he got out and killed people and tried to kill Superman while saving lives. Clearly it’s not an effective solution, anon.
To add, the show establishes that Doomsday constantly evolves to anything he initially can’t overcome or anything that hurts him. And every time he gets loose he puts a lot of lives in danger, and clearly has zero care about it and swears to get out and do it all again. Him getting out isn’t like Riddler robbing a bank, him getting out is a guaranteed crisis. Any situation you put him in he’ll adapt to and get worse than last time, so Batman being mad is stupid.
just leave him in the rock they trapped him in, easy peasy. He only ever escaped a jail cell once in his life and that's because someone let him out.
NTA, but it's apparent that you can't read.
You seem to not understand the “He adapts to everything” thing. He’s escaped from being shot into space and came back stronger from a literal lobotomy. Milo even tells Doomsday he knew DD was faking it in the military facility and biding his time. He even tells Superman “I will get out” because he will, it’s his entire angle.
he didn't escape from space, his meteor crashed back down to earth. The only time he ever escaped in the military facility he needed someone to let him out. He can't adapt if he isn't killed, and he wasn't, he couldn't break out of the rock. Lock him up again and this time don't let anyone release him from the outside like what happened before.
>he didn't escape from space, his meteor crashed back down to earth.
Wrong. Go to about 2:27. Doomsday smashed the rocket off course and back to earth. He escaped.
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>The only time he ever escaped in the military facility he needed someone to let him out.
Again, Milo cites that Doomsday was biding his time. When he wanted to get out, he’d get out. Milo simply gave him an easier opportunity and told him where to find Superman, so he now has a motivation. Otherwise he wouldn’t have walked out of Cadmus as easily as he did.
>He can't adapt if he isn't killed, and he wasn't, he couldn't break out of the rock.
He adapts to anything that stops him. You’re telling me he wouldn’t get out of a fricking rock? He even says he will, and Clark believes him.
>Lock him up again and this time don't let anyone release him from the outside like what happened before.
Then he’ll get out eventually and risk another hundred lives.
These people will defend Batman to death. I don't see why you bother arguing with these people.
Cause he'd lose lol
Lose what? All I see are Batgays defending everything Batman does.
Cause it's funny
Biding his time for someone to let him out, dumbass. And no, he only adapts when he's killed.
No, biding his time until he finds Superman. He doesn’t care to even talk until Milo says Superman’s name. He had no motivation to leave until then, hence all the other crap Milo said not mattering to him.. Try watching the episode, since you thought Doomsday came out of a meteor magically.
Doomsday's not exactly very smart. I can say I can benchpress a planet, doesn't mean I can. He couldn't get out of the rock, and unless there's an adaptational pressure for him to get out of the rock, he ain't gonna get out.
Glad you’d bet thousands of lives on that. It’s not like he’s survived being lobotomized or anything extreme. He’ll probably just stay in the rock like he did in space.
Batgays are only arguing for Batman because they technically don't live in a comicbook world. So it's easy for them since they don't live under such fear.
Why would I fear for my life if I was Batman? He was suit that can take out the entire Justice League
has*
Sorry a bit tipsy
Yeah when weakened and barely functioning properly like Scott said. And Batman has gotten beaten so many times I wouldn't trust that guy with my life. His track record is too shitty.
Skill issue. I'd do fine.
No he wouldn't because he jobs too much.
I don't care about he, I'm talkin' bout me.
I'd slay in that universe.
who's scott? what are you on about?
the lobotomy is an injury, hence something he can adapt to. You don't adapt to thing that aren't injuries, because there's nothing to adapt to. He's just not strong enough to break the rock, end of story.
>Smashes a rocket back to earth, survives the crash and breaks free
>No this rock will be fine
it literally was fine. They carried him all the way up to the space station and he still was in the rock unable to do fricking anything. He's weak as frick man.
>They carried him all the way up to the space station
And he broke free and survived a crash from space to earth. Your point?
>he still was in the rock unable to do fricking anything
He’ll adapt and get out. Not to mention Doomsday almost killed Superman, and you’re relying on a rock. Good idea anon.
“I WILL get free, and I WILL kill you.”
you can't adapt from a non-injury, moron. Doomsday's stuck sitting there just like he was stuck in Cadmus.
It’s not my fault at this point that you’re getting the episode entirely wrong. I really hope you’re never in charge of anything important.
He has a history of being a low IQ phoneposter. Don't be mean to him.
>no argument
I said what literally happened in the episode. Doomsday got stuck in a rock unable to get out.
You're just seething about it.
Do you have reading comprehension issues? None of that changes anon's argument.
the argument is that "h...hurr durr...he he'll adapt!"
when it's already been established Doomsday adapts to injuries, he doesn't just grow new feautures as he wants them. No injury = no adaptation = he's stuck in his rocky prison until someone lets him out, just like when he was stuck at cadmus.
>just like when he was stuck at cadmus.
Again, he didn’t even care about getting out until Milo mentioned Superman.
he couldn't get out until Milo freed him. He had to bide his time until someone got him out.
Sauce: Headcanon
Batgays lost. Doomsday will break out again. Batman canonically likes seeing people get killed because he's a lunatic.
So doesn't that mean that he'll eventually adapt to the phantom zone and escape?
Worth a try over another prison.
Didn't he put regular kryptonians who got too uppity in there already in this continuity? Isnt it weird for Bruce to suddenly think it's too far NOW?
I feel like out of all the characters Batman would be the most likely to be a fascist or have fascist sympathies kinda like how he was in Kingdom Come
Cadmus and justice lords shit that’s like vaguely supposed to mirror some bush era shit
It's your fault for taking a nutjob clown in a bat suit seriously.
the scene in the wringer episode of SpongeBob where the town thinks SpongeBob is in the wrong for snapping at Patrick
Yeah that was really weird, the townspeople are usually charecterized as apathetic buttholes so seeing them stand up for someone regardless of whether he was right or wrong is odd to begin with
DCAU Doomsday is a clone made from Superman's genetic material, therefore he is ethically justified in completely destroying Doomsday completely, like how Supergirl was ethically justified in murdering Galatea with an electric discharge. That Doomsday was kept alive at all is a mercy.
>OMNICIDAL CREATURE OF CARNAGE AND DESTRUCTION WHO KILLED COUNTLESS INNOCENTS AND PLANS TO LEVEL THE EARTH'S CRUST LEAVING NOTHING ALIVE IN HIS WAKE
>yeeppp i'm thinking jailtime
why is Batman like this?
Doomsday is a sentient clone of Superman in DCAU. He deserved a just sentence, not torture like cowards like Clark would subject him to
get back in the phantom zone, doomsie
Batman in jl often acted like a c**t. When darkseid came for help, superman declined because he knew full well he was hiding something. But batman was like:
>yes he mindraped you, force you to servitude and nearly destroyed your reputation
>but you need to get over it. Millions of innocents will perish!
Superman probably saw that as mercy kill since those slaves can't become normal ever again.
There's also the fact the show never addressed how batman not only was in the wrong but darkseid almost destroyed the entire universe due to his fault.
Jeez no wonder he allows the joker to roam free...
I think Superman is bland and boring but its shit like this thats made me start to hate batman
I hate Batman too.
>"Waaaaaaahhhh why won't Batdaddy become an evil murderer??" - Jasoncucks
Ok, gays. You wanted Batman to stop being a hero and start being a crazy soulless murderer just like Joker so here you go. Better hope The Batman Who Laughs decides not to torture you to death first because it's not like life is sacred anymore.
Capeshit is already moronic so Batman should just get to kill if the story calls for it. We all know the Joker is going to come back but at least we wouldn’t have to deal with the moronic IF YOU KILL THEM YOU’RE JUST AS BAD
>Capeshit is already retared
>spends his time in capeshit threads arguing about capeshit
Bwahahahahh what a cucked life
Why can everyone here only make arguments by pretending the dumbest extreme scenarios are the only other possible conclusion?
Because that's what Battards want you to believe. They think it's everyone else's problem but Batshit.
Here's a good scenario for you: Superman decided to rid all crime in the world overnight.
Bonus post-credits scene: He puts a mentally ill Batman in Arkham out of his misery
Pure kino, no?
Why hasn't he done it yet? Why did he cuck out?
Literally all of them wear bulletproof clothing how the frick are they taking body wounds from 9mm?
Dark Multiverse. It's nightmare fueled and is formed from fears so it doesn't run on something logically happening. It just happens because it needed to be done to fulfil the fears.
that's not how it works. They're made the same as all the other "canon" timelines by the world forger, just these timelines are rejected by him for not fitting their personalities
That's exactly how it works.
It's not. "nightmares" is just casual shorthand for "bad end route they could have taken". They're made by World Forger making a bunch of worlds with his hammer and anvil then making a sorting bin for bad end routes and good end routes. Good end routes go into the canon pile, bad end routes get shredded in the incinerator (dark multiverse) by Barbatos.
That's why they are called nightmares. Everything goes fricking wrong and is meant to be disturbing and moronic. It doesn't change anything I sad.
Just read the story if you have time, it's pretty good.
>it's pretty good.
Lol
lmao even
I've seen enough of laffbat to know that every single thing pertaining to him is hot garbage with only a handful of designs and pages being worth a single damn
The best thing to happen with that overstayed-it's-welcome garbage was Prime Time obliterating him and throwing his DC book in the trash where it belongs
He kills the Joker though. And beats him at his own game later, it's pretty fun.
When was the last time Joker did anything massive in Gotham? Don't use the dark multiverse trash, I meant like in Batman's own books?
Well he robbed a bank. Some guy probably couldn't get his kid a Jaguar and had to give him a Lexus.
That's pretty grim if you ask me.
So the Joker isn't that much of a threat then.
Joker War: Made city-wide riots, a buncha damage to other stuff, defiled Alfred's corpse, made Bruce lose all his money permanently, exposed Bruce as stealing money from public services (now Catwoman has it all)
Pretty sure every time canon Joker and Batkek meet he loses
>that time Joker saved Lex from him
>that time Joker and batman stopped him blowing up the antimonitor
>that time Joker saved canon Bruce from turning into him
Yeah but what I mean is that Batkek was better at being the Joker than the Joker was.
He probably does have hidden potential to do the same but he doesn't want to because he's a good guy deep down.
The Joker and Batman are essentially a heroic duo.
Oh yeah definitely he's a way bigger threat
>Green Lantern punches Batman
>Batgays send death threats over a comicpage
Fricking Losers. Unstable just like their Batcuck.
Batman trapped someone in a time loop. Sure he almost destroyed the multiverse but the one punished wasn't his future self, instead it was his past self who had yet to commit those acts. That's a literal fate worse than death but the show sees batman in the right.
>"Waaaaaaaaaah why is Batman a true hero with a heart of gold why isn't he an edgy teenage edgebaby like me who wants to kill people instead of saving them???"
This is why, Jasoncucks. You want this? The Batman Who Laughs would torture Jason to death first and then Jason would be crying and shitting his diaper and begging Bruce to go back to not killing but it'll be too late Jason will get what he wants while The Batman Who Laughs is beating Jason to death with a crowbar and then you'll realise what edgy unintelligent immature idiots you all are but by then it'll be too late
Is it actually Jasongays that have been malding about this these last few days? I don't follow modern comics but I assume something probably happened that set them off.
What a cringy fandom, can't believe I liked Jason at one point.
Jasongays are deranged, they're like this every thread even in ones that have nothing to do with Jason Todd they invade
I used to think the Star Wars fandom was the worst but this really is next level autism.
Its batman, autism is shitted everywhere
>If you kill even one person you wil become permanently evil and you will torture and murder for fun.
No. Killing a dangerous villain isn't edgy.
It's extremely edgy, edgegay
Kys jason fanboy
All memes aside, why don't people apply the same logic they do to Batman ITT to Superman, or even better, someone more powerful, like a magician?
Let's assume Bruce is mentally ill. Why doesn't someone more powerful step up to the plate?
Frick Batman.
Batman was right here edgy Jasoncuck Jason is the villain
>Batman loves a psychopath more than his own adopted child.
What a fricking awful person lol.
jason's not his son, he's an ungrateful edgelord who took his care for granted and decided to become evil because he's jealous Batman wasn't as easily broken and weak-willed as Jason was.
>POMF =3
>Wah! What are we gonna do on the rooftop, Batman?
This thread has completely gone off the rails. I don't know what the hell is this Jason vs Batman nonsense, but I still ended up hating Batman's evil ass in the end.
Me too but Superman. And he's keeping the other metahumans from interfering too. Holy frick.
>saves people
>upholds the law
>redeems the evil
>isn't an edgelord
>uses reason and logic and basic morals
>not edgy overemotional stupidity and edgy nihlism
>makes Jasoncucks seethe
Revamp the entire Bat universe. Now I hate all of them. Gotham's very concept is dumb.
Shit character.
I can sort of rationalize the bat family (even though there didn't need to be 50 members) but I can't rationalize actual metahumans when it comes to this.
One are regular people assisting the cops, but the other are beings that can ACTUALLY fix entire cities overnight. And yet they fricking don't.
The best part is when you try to apply the same critique to other characters they all buckle and pretending it's ok when their shitters do it. Truly the best character in DC.
This Battard enforce squad is entertaining as hell. If these people are this easy to trigger then I need to spam anti-Bat threads from now on. I had no idea DC was this much of a clusterfrick.
This thread just proved the gays crying about Batman were hypocrites. Not a single explanation as to why everyone else is fine but Batman is in the wrong.
It's to divert attention away from the real issue, which is that metas are actually awful heroes and only street level characters make sense.
All it proved that I can farm the hell out of Batgays and that his character is fricking mess compared to the rest.
You can farm this out of any character, trust me. Notice how no one could answer how their shitters are justified.
Batgays are more autistic and irrational so the threads will go on for longer.
If I was a regular human who stopped some crook from stealing some old lady's bag, I'm essentially Batman without a cowl on. Could I start murdering people left and right? Sure, but I'd become a criminal and they'd throw my ass in jail.
They couldn't do that to me if I was an alien with God-like powers though. Or simply just a metahuman.
>normal
You wouldn't do shit because Batman isn't normal like you. The fact that you're still replying and still defending this shitty comic character proves that I've choose the right people to troll. It's clear no one else gives a shit except Batgays and Jason losers. It was Batgays who started the hate rant in the first place. So clearly you people were shitting on each other the entire thread.
>I've choose the right people to troll.
If you're just trolling than you admitted defeat. Lol, nice going gay.
>If you're just trolling than you admitted defeat.
Batman is dogshit. What you going to do about it homosexual?
we know you're trolling that's why we're trolling you back zoomie
And we all know Batman is trash.
The final boss of Arkham Origins is Joker strapping himself to an electric chair and Batman trying to stop Joker from killing himself
Lmao. I might use this for my shit on Batman threads.
Don't really have a dog in this fight but these threads prove that Snyder fixed Batman and Superman. Thanks for finally beginning to admit you were wrong in your judgement Cinemaphile.
Read this and learn and shut the frick up already you insufferable Jasontards
Should've killed Joker right there. Batshitter is trash.
Is Jason 6 years old? Why didn't he just do it? If Bruce told him to jump off a roof and kill himself would he?
Probably. In Task Force Z Joker tells Jason to kill himself and he does.
Jason is lowkey moronic because he was raised by a Batcuck who cries about his dead mother every night.
ComicBatman is trash. Most MovieBats are good.
ComicBats is better. MovieBats has shit like the Schumacher movies. 50 more years need to pass for that stench to go away.
>wankbat is less of a annoying dogshit than the movies
Yes. If you had a semblance of taste you'd recognize that immediately.
Nobody cares, dude. Again, only nerds do. Forever isn't even bad. B&R works fine as a kid's movie.
They're both garbage. Forever less so.
Kek, all capeshit is trash. (still better than tranime tho)
We need to bring back the best Batman. Comic Batman is garbage.
reddit: the show
Better than comic batman which are comics for women.
Does your irrational fear of women suggest you've never touched one?
Don't reflect homosexual.
That's why Batman's comics are shit right now.
>doesn't deny it
Guess I was right :^)
comics for women > shows for bugmen
Batman doesn't fundamentally work because of how violent his setting is. Everyone else does a good job in their own setting, but they made Gotham such a mess in comparison that it seems unbalanced.
> Everyone else does a good job in their own setting
kek
batman's no kill was a product of the CCA, but under the CCA, EVERY villain wasn't a monstrous mass murderer so it balanced it out. now every evildoer is a monster in human form while Batman keeps his CCA no kill rule; it's truly unbalanced. you either give batman some leeway or you tone down your bad guys.
>Superman would rather kill heroes than save the Earth
The paragon of Justice, ladies and gentlemen
How violent!
Hasn't Superman killed multiple times before as a last effort? He clearly wanted Doomsday dead out of desperation here.
in Endangered Species, Dark Beast goads regular Beast about using corpses for medical research, which is literally a victimess crime, serves the greater good, and mirrors actual medical history when medical universities had to pay for looted corpses so society could have fricking doctors
the x-men making beast persona non grata for doing timeline shenanigans when everyone else voted to keep the O5 around and when marvel only did that shit to try to sell shitty O5 comics and then they got sent back to the past anyway
rightclops shit, because it led straight to krakoa
Why doesn't Batman just kill himself?
He makes money
Why would a billionare with access to everything he wants want to kill himself?
This was so random that it got a chuckle out of me.
That's Prime.
batman with supermans powers cleans up the intire earth within a day
Supergays, defend this
On a daily basis.
>except when it comes to taking down everyone's rogues gallery or at least the joker
Can't kill off one your money makers. That and Superman can't be everywhere at once.
It took 343 posts but I think I understand now. Thanks to your answer I can finally enjoy comics again.
At least DC has heroes who actually try. Can't even say the same about Marvel anymore.
Superman goes around the world helping one small part.
BUT EVEN STILL, he is still ONE individual. he isn't omnipresent. he can't exist everywhere all at once, even with super speed. Superman going wound the world, solving every foreign issue MAY cause problems when he ISN'T around and not to mention what the government of those nations might do. NK seeing Superman might trigger some alarms and might get the US involved somewhat. It might make the US gov get under Superman's case for doing foreign affairs that might get US in trouble. Superman MAY resign his US citizenship but the other nations could easily still see him as a US Dog. Superman (and Clark) also don't know all of the problems of the world, his knowledge would only be surface level.
Really, the true solution is for every country to have their own "Superman" or a super hero in general.
superman gets butthurt and wants his powers back
Batman was slowly going insane.
Insane characters are the only ones who actually do any good. For example Owlman. By erasing the multiverse, he prevented all crime. Or I guess nearly prevented.
He still ended up killing people who didn't do anything so it was a moronic decision in the end.
He would prevent all crime from ever happening. A few collateral casualties are normal.
Not really. You get rid of the source of the crime. You destroy everything and you miss the point of performing that action in the first place.
>You get rid of the source of the crime
Which he did
by destroying everything
There is no longer the need or temptation to commit crime!
Yeah but by removing all those people who would've experienced crime, they never get to experience it.
After going over Batman and Superman, I'm starting to realize Owlman was in the right all along. In some respects, the Batman who laughs too.
This is the dumbest fricking argument ever. How about you have a nice day right now since nothing matters since you wanna follow a nihilist who doesn't care about anyone or anything. Those are the worst types of people.
Everyone will die eventually so there's no reason for suicide.
And there's no reason why you should be alive. Why not have a nice day right here and to avoid all pressures of life? Nothing matters right?
We're all in the process of dying anyway so that would be pointless.
Just like you're pointless? Then have a nice day. Your very life is pointless so why live?
Why when I can do everything else too? None of it will matter.
Because none of that stuff matters so just have a nice day.
I don't care to expend that kind of effort. it won't matter if I do, so why do it? It'll happen eventually.
Yet you can expend the energy to shitpost on Cinemaphile? Can’t even follow your own ideals because you realize how stupid it is.
Yeah because it's fun. The other thing is harder, I can't be bothered right now.
What a fricking lazy loser who has nothing going on in his life. Glad idiots like you aren’t the norm.
I can't be bothered giving a thought out reply to this.
>Cared enough to respond
Lol
Lmao even
Just because nothing matters doesn't mean humans can't cope and give it meaning. That's what we do to survive. But if all people disappeared that would mean all crime would also stop.
>Proves that life does matter in the same post but pretends that it doesn’t.
Lol
this entire thread is bait and you're probably responding to such
What a funny way to say you dont have anything worth in your life
oke the comic pushed the whole: batman is becoming increasingly unhinged (as a side effect of that amulet, while superman got depressed and silver banshee started aging rapidly)
>AUGH
This is what he should’ve done. No compromises for criminals.
So jaywalks should have no compromises? How much of a square are you?
Stealing is a crime. She ain’t stealing a candy bar. She’s stealing priceless items.
I always liked that old Bruce stopped giving a frick about villains being killed.
Canon old bruce in the comics usually uses his last words telling others not to kill
That's good. It could prevent more Jokers.
Batman was right.
No Batman was wrong.
This. No Batman has been wrong.
Yeah the ones in your head.
Thomas Wayne was in the wrong.
>I lost my child so I'll turn into a killer
Nah dawg. Continue living your life in the way your son would've been proud of.
Actually would've been a kino solution, shame it wasn't permanent or at least something that didn't last longer.
they always come up with some bullshit that his mind is too powerfull and chaotic for any telepath.
even the spectre got his ass kicked by jokers mind
I'd be fricked if telepaths could fix all types of insanity but autists still existed
it's the same in marvel
reed richards has the cure for cancer and other diseases. but he takes the money from world goverments not to release those cures because it would upset the status quo.
and he rather does random science anyway
Treat Joker like Doomsday. You can kill him, but the way he's made there's nothing you can do to stop him from coming back.
He fell into a variant of the same stuff Plastic Man fell into. He didn't get the powers, but it made him essentially immortal.
hahahahahaha
>kills doomsday
>can't kill batman doomsday
how does this happen?
Hope can't function in a multiverse where hope can't prevail.
Batman Doomsday had kryptonite breath or some shit and it made spikes shoot out of Supes' body.
>Dark multiverse trash.
Do yourself a favor and throw the book in the trash like Prime did.
Batman actually kills there though. Wasn't everyone crying for 400+ replies that he doesn't?
Because it went full moron and wasn't balanced. No-kill rule and kill everyone are both extremes. DC acts like the middle doesn't exist with Batman and it's annoying as all hell.
The alternate Batmen killed.
There's also Thomas Wayne.
There idiots here defending Doomsday from being removed. What the frick?
This thread makes me glad that I'm a GLchad.
>greencucks
Batman beat the shit out of Hal Jordan and Hal admitted that Batman is much cooler than he is
What's that? I can't hear you over how much better GL's comics are than Batman's.
Idk what a phantom zone is but would batcuck get mad at danny phantom for putting ghosts in the ghost zone too?
>ghosts
In that case not. Batman kills the undead.
he'd only beat up Danny if Danny was stupid enough to get in his way
Why do so many people seethe at Batman for proving their shitty characters wrong?
they're jealous because they know their shitty characters will never be as cool as he is
sad!
Because Batman is a shit character. And it's fun to torment their fans samegayging.
How's that cuck war going after you got BTFO in the other thread ESL homosexual. Now I'm coming here to frick you all.
Seethe Jasontoddsissy
Now run away before Batdaddy comes to beat you up again you edgy shit
Jason and Batloser are both cucks. Batman is a sore jobbing loser who cries over his dead parents everyday.
> Now I'm coming here to frick you all.
LITERAL homosexual, as expected
Batman was right.
Bathaters are all edgy homosexuals like him
Doomsday going to break out again and go straight for Batman and shove his spike right up his ass. Batman will enjoy it because he's canonically a gay.
Oh just like Batgay? He has sex with the Joker every night. Batman is the woman in bed, because he likes getting fricked in ass. It helps him cope with his negative winrate in comics.
>IP count didn't go up.
Samegayging Batcuck, Sad!
You sure seem to enjoy thinking about other men having sex. You also mentioned you've to uhh "frick" men earlier. Anything you want to share anon?
>Anything you want to share anon?
Sure, Batman is a utter gay in the comics. And so are his cucked fans.
Batman was right moron
Batman was right
Batman wins.