Like, a list of your favorite stuff. I'm curious.
Not only that but - what too (you) makes a good comic book? Is it different for every genre? Tone? Quality of art? Plot/story? How do you favorites exemplify yours personal tastes?
what are some of your favorite comics?
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Yep.
I read comics purely if I think the art looks neat. I don’t even really care if they’re bad as long as the art is unique. I also prioritize comics where the artist is also the writer, because they’re likely more invested in making something good.
For me, a good comic is entertaining, is at least decently-written, has good art, takes advantage of the medium in some way, and is a work whose elements hold well together. Comics like Arsene Schrauwen, Asterios Polyp, From Hell, and Watchmen (Alan Moore in general) are my jam. Slightly messier ones like Born Again and Miracleman are also great. Even comics I don't like as much, like Building Stories and The Nao of Brown, are pretty satisfying reads.
I make exceptions for this too, but I've dropped many comics with excellent art.
>It's not a problem with Euro
Yeah, that's bullshit.
>what makes a good comic book?
The cornerstones of quality art and writing sure but also how it uses the medium to its advantages i.e. what kind of storytelling can only be accomplished in a comic
The cartooning style is not my thing, but I really appreciate this level of effort.
awful
Most comics (frankly) don't have good writing. It's not even insult, most people who work on comics are not that good at writing. Which is fine, I think that gives room for incredible visual story telling instead. You'd be surprised how much a good artist can carrie a basic, mid story.
>Not only that but - what too (you) makes a good comic book?
For me, comics need to avoid being wordy messes. When comics try too be books, it always falls flat. If I really wanted superb writing, I would read a book (btw, the Paris Architect is a kino book, go read Cinemaphile gays)
Oh, and my favorite comics would be:
>Blacksad
>Tintin
>Corto maltese
>Fade out
>Richard starks parker
>Keepers of Maser
>Regis loisels Peter Pan
>And the mickey and Donald comics (though that's helped for them being my two favorite cartoon characters soo..)
>For me, comics need to avoid being wordy messes.
This is why I can't read most American comics before the 90's or so. It's not a problem with Euro or Japanese books but American comics had an awful dialogue problem.
the perfect comic has great art and great story, but i think out of the two, and i'm saying this as a professional illustrator, writing is more important. if the writing is really good, i'll put up with mediocre art
i like the millar run on authority
i like most of the things grant morrrison or warren ellis has ever done
when i was a kid i adored gen13 but the writing hasn't aged very well, campbell's art is still great tho
i think the best thing alan moore ever did was top10 i could read that series a hundred times
i think blacksad may have some of the most beautiful art that's ever been in a comic, i'd cut a leg off to be able to watercolor like that
>I think blacksad may have some of the most beautiful art that's ever been in a comic, i'd cut a leg off to be able to watercolor like that
Blacksad in general just has beautiful artwork.the detail that goes in the wrinkles of a characters coat is something to die for.
Well this a short version of my list, but here's a fuller one.
>Blacksad
>Tintin
>Corto Maltese
>Richard Starks Parker
>PTSD Radio
>Fade Out
>Planetary
>Humunculus
>Batman (depends on the comics though, I'm not a super fan, just like the generic stuff like the dark knight returns or the hushed saga)
>The Keepers of Maser (based, op)
>Early Spawn
>Dororo
>Cybersix
>Trigun (shit, I know. What can I say? I like each taters capes and cool designs)
>Clockwerx
>The Mercenary
>Pluto
>Regis loisel's Peter Pan (best tink, btw)
>The Drifting Classroom
>Planetes
>Y: The Last Man
>Lone Wolf and Cub
>Bone
>The mickey (mouse) and Donald (duck) comics (I know not everyone on Cinemaphile are huge mickey fans, but he is one of my favorite cartoon characters tbh. I'll always have a soft spot for him. And I don't think I need to explain why I like the duck comics-)
Man, I noticed a lot of us on Cinemaphile dhare alot.of the same favorites. Either all of us have incredibly specific tastes, or these comics are just that good.
>Either all of us have incredibly specific tastes, or these comics are just that good.
You don't have many comics on your list that I consider good.
Well then, do (you) know any better comics?
Not necessarily better, but more to my taste. It's a good thing that we have very different taste.
What Mickey comics would you recommend?
Miracleman.
The art has to be interesting and appealing in some way.
I prefer one primary creator, although I’m not fanatical about it.
I like a beginning, middle and an end, but I also enjoy the endless soap opera nonsense of cape comics.
Some of my favorites
Den
Kamandi
The Chuckling Whatsit
Tintin
Carl Barks Ducks
Thimble Theatre
Nexus
Does Cinemaphile even read comics?
Yes.
This guy reads comics, good on you. Do you also read books?
One of the reasons people keep saying to split the board up
Not even that. I want to split super hero and cartoons up.
>Normal super hero board
>Cartoon board
>And general comics board
If there can be a whole ass pokemon board, and a fricking pony board, I don't see why we can't give cape gays there own board too circle jerk in.
>And general comics board
This would taken over by webcomics. It's better to keep comics all together.
Fine. But there's no excuse to keep cartoons and comics in the same thread. I get Cinemaphile as a website is built for sweaty weebs, so they couldn't give a rats ass about this board, but I'd rather see cape slop then anymore man children making softcore bait threads about childrens cartoons and b***hing about whatever lesbian Disney channel slop is popular with shippers.
>This would taken over by webcomics.
You sure? Webcomics are a lot smaller audience then traditional comics, Only like a handful of webcomics can get a thread to reach bump limit on their own outside of being a storytime, most of the time they clump together under a single thread. If a comic board is made,it will be similar to Cinemaphile, with a majority of threads that aren't storytimes being questions of why didn't [insert famous superhero here] do [insert obvious action here], that's a majority of what cape threads that aren't storytimes are anyways.
Smaller than it is for capes, but bigger than it is for non-capes. Put together, capes would obviously be the majority, but I prefer that than a webcomic majority.
Eat shit. Comics fans don't want adaptation threads on a comics board.
One board for comics. One board for cartoons. That is the ONLY acceptable solution.
Since 2012 I have been waiting for the English version of Keepers of the Maser volume 6 to show up on ebay for less that $150 and it hasn't happened in 12 years. I have the first 5, I don't want to spend $300 for the whole set that some people are asking for, I just want volume 6. Did volume 6 have a really small print run, or something? I don't fricking believe it.
(I already have it in Italian).
>a list of your favorite stuff
Judge Dredd
The Punisher
(pre-New 52) Superman
Marvel-era G.I. Joe
Gunsmith Cats
Akira
Steve Gerber's Foolkiller
anything by Jim Steranko
Frank Miller's Daredevil (ALL of it)
The Dark Knight Returns
Batman Year One
Doug Moench and Bill Sienkiewicz's Moon Knight
Chris Claremont's X-Men
Hitman
Ms. Tree
American Flagg!
Jon Sable, Freelance
Badger
Roy Thomas's Conan
Conan (Dark Horse) volume 1
Twisted ToyFare Theatre
Keith Giffen's Justice League (aka JLI)
Mark Waid's Flash
Peter David's Hulk
Stand Lee and Jack Kirby's Fantastic Four
John Byrne's Fantastic Four
David Michelinie and Bob Layton's Iron Man (both runs)
Mike Grell's Green Arrow
Kevin Eastman and Peter Laird's Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Torpedo
Bone
Sin City
2000AD
Lobo by Keith Giffen and/or Alan Grant
Planetary
Scout
Evangeline
Black Lagoon
Roger Stern's Amazing Spider-Man
Peter David's Spectacular Spider-Man
John Byrne's Sensational She-Hulk
Stan Lee and Jack Kirby's Thor
Walt Simonson's Thor
Hawks of Outremer
>what too (you) makes a good comic book? Is it different for every genre? Tone? Quality of art? Plot/story?
It has to make sense and not be ugly.
>How do you favorites exemplify yours personal tastes?
Not totally sure what you mean by this.
Way too many to list, from a recent 3x3:
Beautiful darkness
Satania
Sweet Paprika
Sweet Tooth
Adventures of Jerome Katzmeier
Rob Davis trilogy: The Motherless Oven, The Can Opener's Daughter and The Book of Forks
Timothe Le Boucher's Days That Disappear
Hubert's Snake and the Spear
Swindling Indies (Les Indes fourbes) by Alain Ayroles and Juanjo Guarnido
>Not only that but - what too (you) makes a good comic book? Is it different for every genre? Tone? Quality of art? Plot/story? How do you favorites exemplify yours personal tastes?
The art, but poor story writing will make me drop it; conversely good writing might sustain my interest even with mediocre art, but there's a limit as childish scrawls won't cut it.
>different for every genre?
Maybe, it really depends, Dungeon has cartoony art but an engrossing tale.
>How do you favorites exemplify yours personal tastes?
No idea, what are my tastes from this longer list? Variety, strong characters or failing that worldbuilding?
Asterios Polyp
Blacksad
BLAST
Blueberry
Bone
Brussli
Cerebus, only some of the stories
Chaboute's Tout Seul
College Noir
Corto Maltese
Cybersix
Dungeon / Donjon
Dylan Dog
Enki Bilal's Nikopol Trilogy
Giant Days
Gotlib
Herakles
Julia Gfrörer's Black Is The Color and Laid Waste
Les Nombrils
Lou! first few until she grows up
Melusine
Sweet Paprika
Okko
Siegfried
The Swindling Indies
Kerascoet's Beauty, Beautiful Darkness, Miss Don't Touch me, Satania and the lighter Court Charade
Boucq's Jérôme Moucherot series: The Walls Have Teeth, Sus à l'imprévu and Le péril pied-de-poule
From Hell
Elric The Ruby Throne
I Kill Giants
Jason's I killed adolf hitler
Loisel's Peter Pan
Scrooge, Life and Times
Moebius's Airtight Garage, Arzach, Incal and The Long Tomorrow (Dan O'Bannon)
Mutafukaz
Malgre Tout 2020 by Jordi Lafebre, English: Nevertheless
Paco Roca's Casa and Lighthouse
Prophet
Brindille by Brremaud, Federico and Bertolucci
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>limit
... Frank Miller's Sin City, some stories only
Tin Tin Black Island
Happiness is a Warm Blanket, Charlie Brown
Nao of Brown
Obscure Cities
Petit Spirou
Pyongyang
Pyrenee
Spirou
Titeuf
Bablet's Shangri-la
Sky Doll
Snowpiercer
The Gremillet Sisters
The Marquis
The Ogre Gods, by Hubert Boulard
The Snake and the Spear = Le Serpent et la Lance 2019 by Hub aka Humbert Chabuel
Mr Ash Tuesday, French: Monsieur Mardi-Gras Descendres
Umberto Eco's Name of the Rose 2023
Usagi Yojimbo, most stories
Vera Brosgol's Anya's Ghost and Be Prepared
Wake - Sillage, first few issues are best
Nävis, prequel to Sillage
Rob Davis trilogy: The Motherless Oven, The Can Opener's Daughter and The Book of Forks
The Maxx
Timothe Le Boucher's Days That Disappear, The Patient 2019, 47.Coordes / 47 Strings
White Tigress
Wrinkles (Spanish: Arrugas)
Frederick Peeters' Aama series, Pachyderme, Sand Castle
etc
What is the sixth one, the middle right?
>sixth one, the middle right?
>Rob Davis trilogy: The Motherless Oven, The Can Opener's Daughter and The Book of Forks
Vera Pike, entrance in The Motherless Oven
woman detected
Women don't read comics.
Do we have comics?
Maybe.
Theres one i like that has an alternate take on sherlock holmes and watson, with watson being a woman with mystical powers and holmes being done with women.
No.
Art that isn't ugly, stories that are enjoyable or at least hold my interest, and characters that aren't annoying.
Fourth World+Captain Victory
Kamandi
Hitman
Enemy Ace
Doom Patrol
Plastic Man
Usagi
Superman dailies
Krazy Kat
Popeye
Art has to be good, I don't really read runs; bigger fan of original works by original authors/artists.
>Plastic Man
I'm assuming you mean the original comics