What are the pros and cons.

What are the pros and cons.

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Manga = cool
    Comics = pozzed

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      kys

      >pozzed
      Speak english you nonce.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >nonce
        >speak English
        Britbongs started “pozzed” you wanker

        Spawn and the darkness are better than any of the shit in the manga picture and better than any shonen to come out in the last 10 years.

        >spawn and the darkness
        Go cut your wrist elsewhere

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Sorry brit slang sounds like something a 5 year old came up with.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Existence of yaoi and shonen-ai means the other way around. FPWP.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Are you a dumb homosexual? It's not pozzed. Unless you're the kinda homosexual who actually thinks the mere presence of gays is automatically political. If anything those you mentioned are more fetish fuel than anything and the farthest thing from political. You fricking pol homosexuals seethe and cry at literally anything.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Gay and LGBT are not the same thing.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Are you a dumb homosexual? It's not pozzed. Unless you're the kinda homosexual who actually thinks the mere presence of gays is automatically political. If anything those you mentioned are more fetish fuel than anything and the farthest thing from political. You fricking pol homosexuals seethe and cry at literally anything.

          Frick you troon lover. It's the same shit. All you gay apologists need to go back. Cinemaphile is for the conservatives and we don't take none of this gay shit. have a nice day homosexual.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            You're a troony and you're projecting, and I did not say anything incorrect.

            How? They're all animation. Is food fromJapan and food from France not food? They're different but they're food still. Same shit for animation.

            A bicycle and a car are both vehicles. Doesn't make them the same thing.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              All animation is cartoons. There are different kinds of cartoons but they're all cartoons. It doesn't matter where they come from. Look at all the Franime out there that you wouldn't know is French if someone did not tell you. Anime used to have a more unique style sure, but much like how fusion cuisine grew due to exposure to other kinds of food, the same goes for animation.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                A cartoon is a type of animation. An anime is a another type of animation. Neither of them is synonymous with animation. Not everything in the world is the same.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                How is it different? In what way? Do they not animate by using multiple frames drawn in such an order to illustrate movements and actions? Not everything is the same sure but all anime is cartoons. Seethe more weeb.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous
  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    If pro is the opposite of con, then what's the opposite of progress?

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Spawn and the darkness are better than any of the shit in the manga picture and better than any shonen to come out in the last 10 years.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >asiatic vs mutt thread
    no thanks
    everyone below me a homosexual

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Manga is comics

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly this. Just like anime = cartoons. The kind of dumb homosexual who draws a hard distinction is probably a basement dwelling waifu posting hentai watching obease frick.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Anime and cartoons are two very different kinds of animation.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          How? They're all animation. Is food fromJapan and food from France not food? They're different but they're food still. Same shit for animation.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous
          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            They are different. Many things in Japan are different than things in the West. Instead of spending your entire life spamming these images across Cinemaphile, why don't you actually make a logical case for why things in Japan are exactly identical to things elsewhere?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Japan has a more popular style to it that it has grown to be known for. But it's the same thing with a spesific style. Games are games, cartoons are cartoons, food is food. There are styles of games, styles of cartoons and styles of food. All anime is cartoons but not all cartoons are anime.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Anime and cartoons are different types of animation. They are not the same.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Well for one at they're the same thing.
              At their core they both use the "whale" model of monetization. Everything else is just aesthetic.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                What are you talking about?

                How is it different? In what way? Do they not animate by using multiple frames drawn in such an order to illustrate movements and actions? Not everything is the same sure but all anime is cartoons. Seethe more weeb.

                Cartoons and anime have very little in common.

                >Seethe more weeb.
                This comment proves that you are disingenuous and that you are just lying as part of an agenda. You know "cartoon" is an insult so that's why you keep lying that anime = cartoons.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Cartoon isn't an insult zoomie

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You're a zoomer and you're projecting. Yes it is an insult and that's why you're lying.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >NO U!
                >EVERYONE ELSE IS MAD BUT ME! THEY'RE ALL PROJECTING! REEEE

                God, I enjoy Japanese cartoons too but homosexuals like you make me embarrassed to admit it. Lest people think I'm a seething weeb like this. Disgusting.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                There was no "no u," zoomer.

                >EVERYONE ELSE IS MAD BUT ME! THEY'RE ALL PROJECTING! REEEE
                You very obviously are mad, and it is a fact that you projected.

                >God, I enjoy Japanese cartoons too but homosexuals like you make me embarrassed to admit it. Lest people think I'm a seething weeb like this. Disgusting.
                You hate anime and it makes you angry when someone else doesn't.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >There was no "no u"

                You're a zoomer and you're projecting. Yes it is an insult and that's why you're lying.

                >I'M NOT THE ZOOMER YOU ARE!
                >Proceeds to continue saying NO U

                Weebs should neck themselves.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >There was no "no u"
                Correct.

                >I'M NOT THE ZOOMER YOU ARE!
                Correct.

                >Proceeds to continue saying NO U
                There was no "no u."

                >Weebs should neck themselves.
                I'm not a weeb and nothing I have said in this thread has ever suggested that I am. You're just freaking out and lashing out because I exposed your little game.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I'll bite. So how IS anime different from cartoons? And no "they just are" is not a sufficient answer.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Almost everything about them is different. This has been covered hundreds of times probably. The burden of proof is now on you to explain how they are supposed to be the same despite being so different.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >They just are

                Why did I even give you the opportunity. Weebs like you are disgusting.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not a weeb and never said or implied anything to suggest that I am. The burden of proof is on you to explain how these very different types of animations are magically the same. You're also always the ones who initiate these arguments by claiming they're the same, rather than someone else claiming they aren't.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >very different types of animations
                But you're not willing to explain how they are different.
                you just keep saying they are, repeatedly.
                When at their core they share the exact same fundamental foundation and principles. Art isn't different depending on where it's from.
                And no, saying "it's been explained before so I don't have to" is not an argument.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Because he's a troll. Don't even give (you)s. It's like baby's first troll. The classic "NOO ANIME ISN'T CARTOONS YOU PLEB! BECAUSE!" is literally the baby pool for trolls.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I did not troll anywhere. I accept your concession that I am right and you are wrong.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Comics are different to comics because these comics are different to these comics.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >There was no "no u"
                Correct.

                >I'M NOT THE ZOOMER YOU ARE!
                Correct.

                >Proceeds to continue saying NO U
                There was no "no u."

                >Weebs should neck themselves.
                I'm not a weeb and nothing I have said in this thread has ever suggested that I am. You're just freaking out and lashing out because I exposed your little game.

                There was no "no u," zoomer.

                >EVERYONE ELSE IS MAD BUT ME! THEY'RE ALL PROJECTING! REEEE
                You very obviously are mad, and it is a fact that you projected.

                >God, I enjoy Japanese cartoons too but homosexuals like you make me embarrassed to admit it. Lest people think I'm a seething weeb like this. Disgusting.
                You hate anime and it makes you angry when someone else doesn't.

                You are a liar with an agenda. You know cartoon is an insult so that's why you lie and slander anime. You are probably just jealous because anime is so much better than Western animation.

                What are you talking about?

                [...]
                Cartoons and anime have very little in common.

                >Seethe more weeb.
                This comment proves that you are disingenuous and that you are just lying as part of an agenda. You know "cartoon" is an insult so that's why you keep lying that anime = cartoons.

                This is very clearly a troll. Someone with this dumb of a take is too dumb to post here. It's just so surface level weeb shit that even Cinemaphile would be embarrassed. It's too dumb and he responds like a literal child. Stop feeding the roleplay troll.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I never trolled anywhere. I never said anything stupid. I never said anything to indicate that I'm a weeb. I never said anything childish.

                You admit that I'm right.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >How are they different?
                >THEY JUST ARE OK THEY JUST ARE!
                >NOOO I'M NOT A WEEB! WHY DON'T THEY REALIZE AMIME IS SO UNIQUE AND SPECIAL JUST LIKE MEEEE! THEY'RE JUST JEALOUS OF ANIME! IT'S DIFFERENT BECAUSE I SAY SOOOOO

                Look the seething weeb. You have to Go back.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You are a liar with an agenda. You know cartoon is an insult so that's why you lie and slander anime. You are probably just jealous because anime is so much better than Western animation.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I explained that at the core japanese mobie games and American ones are the same.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                That may be true for some mobile games, but how does it prove that everything Japanese is the same as everything not Japanese?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Manga is a comic book

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Is there even a good mobile game?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Hungry cat Picross

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Severed was fun but it's also a pay once and play with no microtransactions so it might as well be a unicorn

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      A videogame is a videogame. But I wouldn’t call a Horror videogame the same as a fighting videogame

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Ok but who asked? A videogame is a videogame a comic is a comic

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Both are great as long as you read outside of the shonenshit and capeshit genres.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Comics
    Pros:
    >Color
    >Shared fictional universes
    >Superheroes
    >High Quality Reprints
    >Live Action Movies.
    Cons
    >Lack of diversity in genres
    >Public acceptance was decades too late
    >Editorial has too much control on some titles
    >Crossovers and events screw over writers ideas
    >High Price Point

    >Manga
    Pros
    >Cheap and available
    >Faithful tv anime adaptations
    >Creators have much more control over the finished product
    >More diversity in genres
    >Fair prices for what you get
    Cons
    >nearly everything is black and white
    >Terrible live action adaptations
    >Peaked 30 years ago
    >Terrible work conditions for the artists

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Shared fictional universes
      >Superheroes
      >Live Action Movies
      These are cons. Color is sometimes a con due to crap colorists.

      Manga is superior in every single possible way.

      I read both ofc and can't take anyone seriously who doesn't. It's gotta be some manner of mental impairment to just not read manga or comics.

      I read both as well, and there are more than a few comics better than any existing manga.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >I read both as well, and there are more than a few comics better than any existing manga.

        Wow, we must have, like, completely opposite values in life.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Manga is just better.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >too expensive for 22 pages
    >Variant covers are a scam

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Don't buy floppies

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Floppies are the only thing that matter when talking about the success of a comic. Publishers don't care about tpb sales and can cancel something by the time the first tpb is out. Shitty model for a shitty industry.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Floppies are on their way out have Been for years. Expect the industry to go full graphic novel the next 10 years.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Brilliant discussion, lets see the poster count

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Comics are graphic novels. So they focus more on text while the character do funny poses.

    Manga are a lot more focused on the visuals.

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The answer is no. Saved you a click.

      Me being right and you being wrong does not somehow mean that I need a therapist.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        No but the schizophrenia does.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          There was no schizophrenia. The fact is that you are wrong and I am right. And you just admitted it.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous
            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              There was no autism. I am right and you are wrong.

              >very different types of animations
              But you're not willing to explain how they are different.
              you just keep saying they are, repeatedly.
              When at their core they share the exact same fundamental foundation and principles. Art isn't different depending on where it's from.
              And no, saying "it's been explained before so I don't have to" is not an argument.

              The burden of proof is on you to explain what makes them identical.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Because it's the same exact art form.
                Anime isn't like an entirely different medium from cartoons such as cartoons are from video games. It's not like the rule book of cartooning is thrown out the window when you start making anime.
                The animator's survival kit applies equally to anime as much cartoons and that book teaches the principles of cartooning.

                If they were totally different we wouldn't be comparing them right now.
                Now it's on you to explain how they aren't.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Explain in detail how it is possible for cartoons and anime to be exactly the same.

                >The animator's survival kit applies equally to anime as much cartoons
                It doesn't, since anime uses techniques that cartoons do not, and has a significantly different approach to animation.

                >Now it's on you to explain how they aren't.
                The burden of proof remains on you.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous
  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Manga are drawn for the story.

    Comics are drawn to sell merchandise.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Tell that to Ano and Evangelion.

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    131690346

    They're the same because they just are. Checkmate weeaboo.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Prove it, troony.

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    131690365
    The burden of proof is on you to prove they aren't.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      No, it's on you. You are always the ones who initiate this by claiming they're the same. The burden of proof is on the person who makes the claim.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's an objective fact that manga is comics

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          And?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            It's also an objective fact all anime are cartoons

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              No, that's a lie.

              The fact that you are wrong and I am right does not mean that I should kill myself. If anyone should kill himself, it's you.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >watch anime
        >it's clearly a cartoon
        Yeah that's proof enough for me

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          You are a liar.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Here is picture for proof it's a cartoon

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Anime and cartoons are different types of animation. You are a liar who is jealous of anime being better.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Cope AND projection!

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                There was no cope and no projection. You are a liar.

                Ok so it is a cartoon

                No it isn't. You are a liar.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Ok so it is a cartoon

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Pros: One Piece
    Cons: Naruto

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Manga - Pros
    It sells

    Comic cons
    It doesn't sell

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Comic pros = written by westerners
    Comic cons= written by moronic westerners
    Manga cons= written by japs
    That's it

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    They are the same thing on paper, literally no difference.

    The reason they need to be separated in comics discussions is to keep Big 2 gays from claiming everything is fine sales wise because “le comics are up in revenue so that means people like gay Alan Scott, gay Tim and gay Jon” when that isn’t true.

    But comics are comics from a readers perspective.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      No aesthetics differences? No differences in paneling? No differences in storylines, character archetypes, narrative tropes? They're exactly the same?

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >LOL LE EPIC EAST VS WEST THREAD
    Scientific studies have provided irrefutable evidence that trolls are extremely severely mentally ill.
    https://www.theconversation.com/amp/new-research-shows-trolls-dont-just-enjoy-hurting-others-they-also-feel-good-about-themselves-145931
    Therefore, each and every single troll both needs, and deserves to be subjected to immediate, involuntary and indefinite institutionalization not only for their own good, but for the greater good of human civilization.
    Trolling is also against Global Rule 3.
    Fulfill your civic duty by reporting this thread as soon as possible and as much as possible, Cinemaphilemrades.

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Manga is superior in every single possible way.

    I read both ofc and can't take anyone seriously who doesn't. It's gotta be some manner of mental impairment to just not read manga or comics.

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The comics industry is largely dominated by two massive IP holding companies that are both selling different versions of the same thing, and which are more concerned with farming their existing IP than doing anything new. DC doesn't really care what Batman is DOING so long as they are still selling Batman, etc. Yes, there are a lot of indie comics and some of them are even good, but they are such a small margin in the industry that people regularly forget they even exist. Marvel and DC are too good at sucking all of the air out of the room for anything else to really thrive except for maybe one or two a decade.

    The manga industry is much more indie creator driven. Big publishers offer a platform or a spotlight, but its the creator that owns and controls their work. This leads to a fresh stream of new content instead of old IPs, and that new content is more focused on telling a specific story and then ending as opposed to just running forever. Most manga fail within 6 months and die, because with that much competition not everything can succeed, but that isn't really any different from any competitive industry. And manga industry also has a much more direct pipeline to further adaptations, the threshold that a manga has to cross to have a shot at getting an anime is shockingly low.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Comics have been around longer so there's a lot more cultural baggage.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I get thats true, but the thing is that comics (by which I mean full-issue floppies as a business model, no one is talking about 1-3 panel funny pages comics) are not THAT much older than manga. They have a few decades head start. But comics as we know them had already solidified into the stagnant state we know them as now long enough ago that manga has been around longer than it took for comics to doom itself without doing the same thing.

        I realize thats a convoluted sentence, but I hope the meaning came across.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Comics went through eras. If you want to be bored to death you can listen to Don Rosa's podcasts about how the american comics industry "went to shit" after the 19 fricking 40's.

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >What are the pros and cons.
    Pros:
    I can read both and enjoy both
    Cons:
    Most of these people constantly arguing about them probably would rather watch anime and live action shit.

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Based on what I've seen manga tend to take a lot more risks than comics, especially officially-published ones.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Manga is going to have more risks to take simply because they don't have the safety net of established giant IP universe.

      If Superman dies, no one pretends for a moment that he is going to stay dead. Blow up the entire multiverse and the reader reaction is "Oh, so we're doing another reset."

      But in manga, a character loses an arm and the expectation is that will MATTER. Either they are down an arm going forward, or they get a robot arm, or they get their arm healed back but that either costs them something or reveals something important. And because manga doesn't have the same expectation of a status quo that cape comics do, these consequences are almost always considered to be for real.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It'll just grown back like Tenshinhan's. Or he'll use it anyway, like that kid in Made in Abyss.

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Manga is generally better. Easy to jump into (dont have to dig through multiple reboots and issue 1's to figure out what is going on), a set story with one writer usually, available, and has more variety.

    Comics are fine, but when most people think of that they default to the Big 2. Alright if you are really into capes, but agenda shit is being pushed more and more into it to its detriment

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