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I think he's trying to say that every man knows deep down that it's pointless, and you should do nothing, and you're meant to fight that truth for some reason. I never fought it, and Bourdain lost the fight, because he ended up killing himself. That's my interpretation of what he's saying.
I have a hunch that it's all pointless, but I'm still afraid of the infinite void for some reason. I could never kys myself for that reason.
>I'm still afraid of the infinite void
Interesting. I don't think there's an infinite void, but if you do, don't you realise that you'll meet it whether you have a nice day or not? Even without suicide, you'll reach the end of this place.
>don't you realise that you'll meet it whether you have a nice day or not?
The only thing that bothers me with the infinite loop theory is that how am I remembering this particular life right now? Like, I can't remember in any other incarnation of this universe, and I'm clearly not experiencing a future incarnation, so how am I experiencing and remembering this current incarnation. Like why didn't this life just happen in a blink? Why am I experiencing every second of it? Shouldn't I just blink to the end?
>The only thing that bothers me with the infinite loop theory
I'll stop you there, because I have no idea what you're talking about. I wasn't implying you would begin another life in reality, and I was trying to say that you only suffer life once, before you get to rest in eternity.
You wouldn't have a recollection of the afterlife, because you've never been. You need to suffer this place once before you get to be there.
>Shouldn't I just blink to the end?
That would be what suicide is. That is exactly what Anthony Bourdain did. You should only do what he did if you feel like you don't need to see any more. Every experience in this place will benefit you after, because that will be a place of your making. You more you see now, the greater that place will be.
Loops are gay and while possible far less numerous because of increased complexity. There are an infinite amount of identical universes where you live this exact life to a T. Not all of these replica universes are happening at the same time but some are happening at the exact same time. An infinite amount in fact is happening at the exact same time but a smaller infinity than the infinite amount of atemporal replicas which is itself a smaller infinite set than the infinite set of branching decision potentiality set of your specific vessel which is itself a smaller infinity than the infinite set of resonance branching decision potentiality (2 actor branching decisions, 3 actor branching decisions... 7 billion actor branching decisions), which is itself a smaller infinity than multiversal quantum entanglement potentiality.
So pick your reason why "I don't remember". Lots of viable options ranging from this being a discrete instance of your consciousness unconnected to the larger whole in any way to all manner of convoluted pre life and after life systems. All of this is true somewhere. But if you truly are able to even attempt to comprehend the scale we're discussing you wouldn't give a shit about it.
are you afraid to go to sleep too? look at this thing homie, u think its all random? there's 100% something after death
>u think its all random? there's 100% something after death
I think so too. Dying will be just like going to sleep, and you have a nice dream, except this time you don't wake up. Nobody should be afraid. We're here so we figure out what we want to dream about.
Yes I think it's pretty much all random, randomly life managed to survive somewhere else in the universe too I believe.
Where do you get the 100% there is something after death? Like 100% means you have no doubt whatsoever, where do you get to that level of confidence, don't even need specifics of what you think there is because that'll just devolve into nitpicking bullshit.
why do you think there's something instead of nothing?
I don't think there is anything after death. I think life happened to happen on Earth but no divine spark made it the only place it could, or has, happened.
I'd rather this conversation be about how we all get to our ideas about what the makeup of the world is rather than just attacking the basest of the ideas that they represents, but I imagine this turns pretty quick from here.
not him but there's just no point if there's nothing except hedonism
are you saying immortal God is necessary for our lives to have meaning? Why not just humanity, which will live millions of years in all likelihood. Assuming you need to base your meaning on such a large concept at all
i'm saying i'm selfish and need more than the generous gift of 60~ years of life that so far hasn't been good. yes people are worse off than me but i'm selfish
What's to say you wouldn't adjust to a longer lifespan if everyone had one? Wanting to live much longer than everyone else isn't a reasonable expectation.
>Why not just humanity, which will live millions of years in all likelihood.
I'm the other anon who doesn't believe in an afterlife, but where the hell did you get the idea that humanity has a shelf life of millions of years?
We are like 10,000 in at the most currently. You think we as a species have only existed for 1% of our time?
I don't see why not. History has a very homely feel to it, almost primitive. You're feeling done already?
Not done but I wouldn't ask a one year old to tell me how long they think they'd live. Depends on if we get off Earth and manage to make that leap "peacefully".
Realistically, Earth has some good years left in it. All we have to do is avoid traumatic extinction by biological or astronomical cause.
>Earth has some good years left in it
Maybe if you eliminated politicians and talmudic israelites.
you guys are both repeating the big lie. Earth is not about to die of climate change, it's just not a major threat.
an 80 year old has lived 4% of all history since Christ. Set your sights higher
Correct, and I enjoy enjoying things so not being doesn't seem better than being.
Is that really the driving force for needing an afterlife? Some ego driven "all this has to be for something/mean something"?
not true. life can have meaning if you care about something other than yourself
>Learn to overcome the crass demands of flesh and bone, for they warp the matrix through which we perceive the world. Extend your awareness outward, beyond the self of body, to embrace the self of group and the self of humanity. The goals of the group and the greater race are transcendent, and to embrace them is to achieve enlightenment.
Not him but when your brain dies, it just turns off the same as any other animal. There's nothing about humans that makes us different aside from our more evolutionary advanced cognitive apparatus. How and why would there be some mechanism that teleports your "soul" (which is just different parts of your brain interacting) to another dimension or place right as you die?
>your "soul" (which is just different parts of your brain interacting)
What the frick am I reading. Are you really trying to claim to be an expert on souls? Tell me how you figured out what the soul is. I'll wait for this garbage.
I beat dark souls on mouse and keyboard
That's very funny. Reply again after the hide. I'll be filtering every image in the thread, because none of you write anything worth reading. Then I'll go look at these threads that are there for some reason, even though I filtered everything. They just made more. Bunch of fricking NPCs.
sanest atheist
I don't necessarily disagree but there's the possibility that we don't understand every fundamental force in the universe yet, in the same way that we didn't understand germ theory 200 years ago.
QED
God is how all the pieces fit together
Theory of fine tuning
The laws of physics are set in stone. The same laws of physics existed 0.1 seconds into the universe as 0.1 seconds until it ends, and it remains the same today. Those physics have to fit a very narrow range of specifications. Change a decimal point here and Stars don't shine, change a decimal point there and planets don't form. Which means our physics system would be broken or that it is tuned by a super intelligence.
"le argument from design"
whatever helps you sleep at night
Just because something is an incredible fluke doesn't mean it has to be more than an incredible fluke.
I found a pocket watch on the beach. I concluded that it was formed out of the sand and the motion of the waves.
>comparing a recognizable man made object to the laws of physics.
shove that razor up your ass, dumb christgay
If you knew how to read that chart the other anon posted you'd realize that the odds of the cosmological constants being consistent with the existence of carbon based life are infinitely smaller than the motion of the waves making a pocket watch on the beach.
Math is math, probability is probability, the application doesn't change the odds and getting angry about your inability to logically prove your supposedly logical position doesn't help your argument it just makes you sound like a petulant child.
>the odds of the cosmological constants being consistent with the existence of carbon based life are infinitely smaller than the motion of the waves making a pocket watch on the beach.
that is an absolute nonsense of statement, despite what your three colored chart says
the universe has existed potentially an infinite amount of time, unlike the ocean and the sand
>he universe has existed potentially an infinite amount of time
The empirical evidence says its finite. You can start ignoring empirical evidence but that seems like an odd tactic for someone who is supposed to believe in facts and science not faith.
Isn't that graph just selection bias tho
>Yes I think it's pretty much all random
well guess what mr trips, its not
the moon is like a woman, start there
It's normal to think about suicide in your bad moments, but there's no philosophical defense whatsoever. Death is too permanent.
>there's no philosophical defense whatsoever. Death is too permanent.
That's an extremely midwitted opinion. Death may be permanent, but is it also not unavoidable? That means there's very little difference between dying now and later.
>it's incredibly selfish and devastating to those around you
Spoken like someone with no empathy. You say it's "devastating" to others. How about how the person who kills themselves; Do you care how they feel? I don't think you do.
it means there's an exponential difference between dying now and later
Thanks for this low quality garbage. Reply after the hide, check your other threads (all filtered) or open a filtered thread. I hope you npcs continue to post just to get hidden. Please consider replying to each other instead of me.
midwit this, npc that. You are being very homosexual. If reality exists, then yes there's a difference. If nothing exists because you don't care after death, then we're in a new ballpark.
Suffering is not a philosophy
It doesn't matter if I care or not, people are responsible for their own lives and that includes the ties they create with others. Watch the documentary The Bridge sometime about Golden Gate jumpers. Half the families in that film are crying and cursing the person they lost for being selfish and leaving them behind.
I have been a drain, a pestilence, and a disease on my family
they may feel awful in the short term, but everthing will fade and they will be left with an easier retirement and the chance to do the things they always talked about doing
they have nothing to look forward to from me, not children, not financial aid, not even social interaction
the only reason I havent become an hero is that I am a lazy coward, which is how I even got myself into this mess in the first place
you should read "A Christmas Carol"
Do it or don't. Begging for sympathy online makes you about as interesting as a fourteen year old girl who didn't get the cellphone she wanted.
Your being and unbeing are equally unimportant in the grand scheme but the simplest solution is just stop being a homosexual and a drain and a blah blah blah.
Oh! But he was a tight-fisted hand at the grindstone, Scrooge! a squeezing, wrenching, grasping, scraping, clutching, covetous, old sinner! Hard and sharp as flint, from which no steel had ever struck out generous fire; secret, and self-contained, and solitary as an oyster. The cold within him froze his old features, nipped his pointed nose, shrivelled his cheek, stiffened his gait; made his eyes red, his thin lips blue; and spoke out shrewdly in his grating voice. A frosty rime was on his head, and on his eyebrows, and his wiry chin. He carried his own low temperature always about with him; he iced his office in the dog-days; and didn’t thaw it one degree at Christmas.
>kills himself
what did he mean by this?
I'm glad you asked, because I explained it in this very thread:
Suicide is what someone does when they think they've suffered enough. I think it's a valid option, but it's very impatient. If someone hasn't killed themselves, it means they feel like they're not done in this place. That means doing or not doing it are both valid options.
It's not a valid option, it's incredibly selfish and devastating to those around you unless you are absolutely, truly on your own.
>selfish
My life. Didn't ask for it.
>devastating
People pretending to care about you now that you're dead and/or feeling guilty that they didn't care about you when you were alive.
it's hard to talk about suicide in a western framework where all men and women are equal. In reality there are pockets of decay where everyone is affected, crab buckets. Whole towns of evil, but they're too small to just write off a whole region. We lack the qualitative language about people and cultures.
>My life. Didn't ask for it.
Yep, exactly. It's your life, and you can quit at any time.
>b-but your loved ones
If they truly love you, then they'll accept your decision. I completely agree with this part too
>feeling guilty that they didn't care about you when you were alive.
That's why they would cry if you killed yourself; It would be more from guilt than love.
>Half the families in that film are crying and cursing the person they lost for being selfish and leaving them behind.
Probably because they're fricking stupid, much like the people of Cinemaphile. Don't talk to me about those people.
Are you okay
Yes, I'm fine. I come to a website every day full of people I don't like, and I wait for them all to leave. That's what I'll be doing for the rest of my life. No, I'm not kidding.
I can fix you
bro wormpilled when he should've supplement pilled
Look up the guy in OPs image Cause of Death
That's what he meant.
More like the pretentious homosexual thinks that's not a cringe way to say he's lazy. He also seemed oblivious to sharing this characteristic with 99% of the population. It really was probably for the best that he killed himself.
>and you should do nothing, and you're meant to fight that truth for some reason. I never fought it
Then why are you typing?
Seek Jesus
the ancient, schizo desert israelite?
>guy makes statement of motivation
>‘I think he meant life is pointless and he actually killed himself because he tried in life, which is wrong and you shouldn’t try’
You guys crack me up
I think he's saying "I'm a homosexual drug addict and I'm trying not to kill myself."
i'm not taking life advice from a guy who was cucked by a teenager and killed himself, sorry.
AB was cucked by a teenager? What?? I guess that is a decent reason to have a nice day.
His girlfriend fricked some guy who was 17 at the time, he later went on Italian tv and cried about how he was raped.
Tbh, seeing the amount of danger tattoos this woman had, is it any surprise she's a total bawdbag?
>Harv's final revenge from behind the bars.
Pretty sure he got his mossad connection to dig up that photo to take her down for metoo'ing him
That shit must have stung something fierce, however you would think that somebody his age would not be such a b***hboycuck.
how is it cucking if it happened before they met?
it was a shakedown. she paid him 380k to settle. which is probably peanuts compared to what Harvey must have paid him
>dude being a chef is punk rock!
Why did this shit become a thing?
I absolutely hate the growth of "cope" and "seethe" verbage, but that gif is a solid chuckle inducer.
Because class war, and cooks are definitively low class, vis a vis cooking is punk, just like walking on train tracks or saying, "frick you, mom."
drugs and alcohol are pervasive in kitchens. cooks are guys who want an easy job they can drink on and eat for free.
doing blow instead and having to work hard so you can afford more blow.
>Old movies
What does a drug addicted israeli cuckold with an earring watch, Cinemaphile?
Buster Keaton kino
what is this christcucks shiit? that “little guy” is just you. frick everyone else
>atheist israelite says something
>‘why are Christcucks like this???’
I really think you should have a nice day.
Atheist israelites are the foundation of modern society. Maybe sit the frick down and realise how much you owe them.
>Atheist israelites are the foundation of modern society.
True. That's why it's shit.
I've over the past couple years really embraced this idea of each day being a series of victories or losses, a day of competition
I work a comfortable easy job from home, each weekday I workout, play chess, usually I'll play some competitive video games like VR tennis or golf, I practice my French lessons, I read in the evening, I do chores around the house so everything's perfect for the next day, on the weekends I generally rest but also try to golf each weekend.
Most of these things I can see improvement in. In chess right now I'm 2060 ELO for bullet chess in my mid 30s, not bad. Puts me close to 90th percentile. My workouts were stalling but I recently changed my routine up and am enjoying getting better at some of the different lifts I'm starting that I haven't done in years. In golf I shot 3 strokes better this weekend than I did two weekends prior (my last game).
I've become addicted to winning, I want to be the best at everything I do and working towards all my various goals excites me. That's what keeps me from playing a thousand hours a year of csgo like I did in my twenties or spending it drunk at a bar, which I did in my 20s when not gaming.
I have a similar life, but I haven't found anything worth putting effort into that gives me satisfaction. I read and such but I feel like I'm missing something to give my life purpose so I end up just worrying too much about work. I can feel life passing me by.
My purpose is to be competitive and the best I can be, beyond a belief in God, which is important to the equation, I want to win and be great. You could apply it to anything. Golf doesn't have some great purpose or meaning, it's just a fun hobby but importantly it's something I can measure, practice and improve upon. I played guitar for many years and was great and now haven't touched a guitar for five years. I could play golf for twenty and still have room for improvement. The art is of improvement, if I know that today I'm better than I was yesterday, which with a regimental adherence to my hobbies and goals it's almost a guarantee , I take satisfaction in seeing that growth and imagining the number of people I've surpassed in my pursuit day by day, a life leaderboard in my mind
In rereading I feel like I went off on my own tangent and didn't give you a direct answer. If you have things you like, actively improve. If you don't, which is kind of how I'm not reading your post, try new things. Golfing and target shooting are two great ones. A beginner will be shit at either, and you can easily see and understand how to improve, what a good golfer or shooter would look like on the target or the green. Then grind it out. Or maybe you have things you've considered trying but haven't gotten around to it. If you have nothing you love and you therefore worry about work you're missing out friend. I'm working for the weekend. Take a day off and try some of that stuff that you've been drawn to but haven't made time for or try recommendations of others.
hanging yourself
simping for a dried up prostitute and hanging yourself in the restroom, i guess he should've just watched rick and morty and ate frosted flakes in his underwear.
>kills himself over post-wall Asia Argento
That guy inside him got the right idea.
Lay on the couch, do heroin all day, and watch the wife fricking another man.
OP (original poster) here. I wasn't trying to start a discussion on nihilism, which is fine, I'm wondering what strategies people have to stop smoking weed and sitting around gooning and gooming.
lol, what a perfectly constructed joke
Thanks haha
AUC MMXX would've been 1267 AD
False
How so? 2020 years after the founding of Rome (753 BC) is 1267 AD.
who says women can't be funny.
what the frick does she need therapy for?
Good thing I sit at my desk and watch movies. Only thing you should do in bed is sleep or screw
I seem to be the guy AB tried to avoid and outwit. My strategy is to not kms like he did.
Looks like he couldn't outwit the suicidal guy inside him.
I wonder if that guy would have gotten cucked so hard that he killed himself
Let's face facts: he fricked that teenage boy as well.
Was NEET for the better part of 12 years after high school. I got my shit halfway together by 2015 and have been working for over 8 years now. I've tried to make it work as a normie, but it's never really happened. I make decent money (90k at the moment), but I was happier before and should have just stayed in my fricking room.
>make decent money (90k at the moment
What do you do?
Facilities manager in a school district.
I'm pushing 40. There's not much of a future.
nice job! future you will thank you
didn't he kill himself jerking off and doing drugs though
I guess the other guy won
the takeaway so far is we're mostly lurking for a silver bullet. what else is new
>What are these strategems?
Presumably travel the world and get really good at a single skill in an obsessive, perfectionist sort of way. A reason to tell yourself you need to be productive at all costs.
eat to live to eat
He had a “fixed” mindset where his entire identity was based on accomplishments. A catastrophic blow to his ego was all it took for him to hang himself. If he was able to look past it and see the silver lining (i.e. the lesson from his failure) and sought ways to make it right, he would probably still be alive.
women have too much power, bros. our dumb mammal brains can't win against ourselves
That’s why you gotta try not to let it kill you if the shit goes wrong. People with a “growth” mindset don’t let stuff like that lead to their complete ruin. They mourn the loss and move forward.
good analysis. he kept his all his self esteem in one basket. people self identify in ways that are strange to me
that's actually incorrect
bourdain admitted as early as kitchen confidential that he got hyperfixated on his love relationships and did a frick ton of stupid shit involving them
it's not surprising the shit with asia drove him over the edge
what a fricking pussy if that's true
Why the hell would you worry about what an old lady is doing. He had access to infinite asian pussy.
laying in bed all day being high weed wacking, watching cartoons and old movies is le bad.
You know there's high quality png image of Bourdain's rigor mortised corpse somewhere fat tongue and all
be israeli, benefit from israeli-nepotism
Imagine if instead of killing himself Bourdain had just left the public eye and smoked weed for ten years. He could have lived like a king and instead he died like a dog.
It's kind of strange to me that rich people kill themselves, when I have like 1% of what they have, and I'm still living. I have a lot of respect for them, because I think killing yourself takes courage. If I had a gun, I'm not sure if I would use it.
frick up troony. You are an enemy
Am I? Why reply then? Reply after I filter the thread, keep in mind the rest of the board is filtered. Please post less or none next time, shitskin.
bye
I love these threads about the suicidee giving life enjoyment lessons. Really puts things into perspective.
They aren't, just like death, they're government psyops just like death
I mean have you even seen yourself and death in the same room?
Never gonna not convince me he was killed so his body could be used to cover up Epstein's escape.
>outwit that guy
Yup, better do heroin, hook up with a roastie that cheats on me, then kill myself.
Have a wealthy and connected family
Bet that lazy bastard never saw that suicide coming. Two steps ahead.
heroin
it's not hard to figure out
if you succumb to your base urges, your life stagnates and you eventually become depressed and/or diseased and die, by own hand or otherwise.
If all else fails, there's always spite.
...he literally killed himself Black person.
Do you think I'm writing to Anthony Bourdain or to the OP you stupid c**t
Why does everybody talk about the depressed/suicidal version of thinking life is meaningless instead of the hedonistic version where you just do whatever the frick you want?
>The world is like a ride in an amusement park, and when you choose to go on it you think it's real because that's how powerful our minds are. The ride goes up and down, around and around, it has thrills and chills, and it's very brightly colored, and it's very loud, and it's fun for a while. Many people have been on the ride a long time, and they begin to wonder, "Hey, is this real, or is this just a ride?" And other people have remembered, and they come back to us and say, "Hey, don't worry; don't be afraid, ever, because this is just a ride." And we … kill those people. "Shut him up! I've got a lot invested in this ride, shut him up! Look at my furrows of worry, look at my big bank account, and my family. This has to be real." It's just a ride. But we always kill the good guys who try and tell us that, you ever notice that? And let the demons run amok … But it doesn't matter, because it's just a ride. And we can change it any time we want. It's only a choice. No effort, no work, no job, no savings of money. Just a simple choice, right now, between fear and love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your doors, buy guns, close yourself off. The eyes of love instead see all of us as one. Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride. Take all that money we spend on weapons and defenses each year and instead spend it feeding and clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would pay for many times over, not one human being excluded, and we could explore space, together, both inner and outer, forever, in peace
Anthony Bourdain, somewhere in Thailand
He didn't have a Playstation.
Well there you go I guess. Frankly that right there might be the meaning to life. Most people's enjoyment of it is only derived from a sense of power and control. If they couldn't spend life being shitty to others, they wouldn't enjoy it. Meaning they don't enjoy the thing itself for what it is, only feeling like they have more control over it than someone else. I have met a million morons like you, I'll meet a million more. You're not better than a dude that killed himself. Also nobody cares what you think.
he should have listened to that guy and not ran away from him, chances are hed still be alive.
Whatever stratagems he was using didn't work for the guy inside telling him to kill himself.
Antonia Bourdain killed herself because she was afraid to confront the reality that is her Gender Dysphoria
they are gems that, when socketed, increase your strata stats. he apparently didnt have enough or his were of low quality.
Mother fricker killed himself. Why the frick would you take advice from him?
Drinking a Blackni and investigating pedophile rings from within while your harpy of ex-wife cheats on you.
Schopenhauer had the best take. Life is something to be got over with as little pain and discomfort as possible. Pleasure is illusory and fleeting and is randomly encountered as you proceed through life anyway so chasing pleasure when it can cause you pain is a bad trade.
Or if you prefer:
Desire is the source of all suffering.
Desire may the source of all suffering, but you will farm rice. Never forget for all the freedom from want Buddhism works towards, none of it means you’re not supposed to work your entire life. Taoism and Buddhism are designed to ameliorate stress and unhappiness in a society made of a billion rice-serfs
Read Schopenhauer's essays. It's not buddhism but that one aspect has some similarities in outlook.
https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/10715
Frick that pissant take. You might be trapped in a lame instance but consciousness connects you to the larger multiverse. It's your duty to utilize your faculties to invade other universes, steal their creations, and manifest it in your shitty instance. No pain or pleasure or other bullshit matters. You and everyone else are slaves to symbols and icons and a vessel's only purpose is to channel another reality and manifest it in their locality.
I like Goethe's take on life more, that we should all strive to be the best we can.
Lying to yourself you’re a space pirate is not a life philosophy
>pretentious homosexual turns every single conversation into self-aggrandizing horseshit
No wonder he didn't have any friends.