Was the Birds of Prey movie the pinnacle of the whole "We have utter contempt for the comic book source material we're adapting" trend? Or was there something that hates the source material more?
It's hard to think of anything on its level. A "Birds of Prey" movie with no Oracle, a Black Canary that looks and acts nothing like Black Canary, zero sex appeal, for some reason Renee Montoya is there BUT SHE'S NEARLY FRICKING SIXTY, and there's a Cassandra Cain there so unlike her comic counterpart it brings to mind that Gaiman quote "It’s not Batman if he’s now a news reporter in a yellow trenchcoat with a pet bat."
I was going to suggest the Halle Berry Catwoman movie, but that at least let Catwoman be sexy and only butchered ONE comic character...
It's hard to say if it's contempt of indifference, which is almost worse.
I believe it was indifference. Margot read a bunch of early Harley comics (I know that's not the source), and there's a scene in the film where Arleen Sorkin's original jester scene from Days of Our Lives is playing on the TV in her apartment. Honestly, it was probably indifference + a complete misunderstanding of the source material.
That plus Margot basically turning it into a Harley Quinn solo movie with the Birds of Prey mainly there as a supporting cast.
Yeah, I think the bulk of the blame goes to Margot. She had a very specific vision that was neither good or accurate. Despite BoP and The Flash, Christina Hodson actually is a good screenwriter. But it's very clear Margot was most interested in making a sort of diverse feminist Deadpool, which is also why the movie is structured like that. Now that I mention it, I wouldn't be surprised if Cassandra Cain was supposed to be BoP's equivalent of Russell in Deadpool 2. According to Wiki Margot pitched it as "an R-rated girl gang film" and the movie even went into production with the name "Fox Force Five," the fake TV show about badass women Uma Thurman mentions in Pulp Fiction.
This is what educated people talk about when they talk about misogyny in nerd circles.
How so?
It certainly maid a point to mock the source material with "Ha-ha, Cassandra Cain can't talk because she swallowed a diamond"
I know not what movie was made with the most contempt for its source.
But I know it's a DC movie.
What about The Punisher show where the Punisher barely fights criminals and lets child porn sellers go because a teenage girl asked him to?
I'd say that's a strong contender.
Digits check out. And depending on Punisher run i could see him turning a blind eye to a drug user, maybe a low level thug or the like, but there's no way he'd let a cheese pizza afficionado leave alive, considering he was a father
No, that had the vague outline of The Punisher right, even if it went in a weird direction. BoP fricked up from the word Go. That team isn't even the Birds of Prey.
Obviously Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2 since the first movie almost sunk the franchise.
>the first movie almost sunk the franchise
Bait or moronation?
>It received mixed reviews, but was a box-office success, grossing $202 million on a budget of $13.5 million; it was the highest-grossing independent film up to that time and the ninth highest-grossing film worldwide of 1990.
yeah and it pissed off parents with the violence and swearing as well. or did you think Leo's swords just magically disappeared in Movie 2.
>Yeah, well...it made mom's mad!
oh you're a zoomer moron who only knows Nick Turtles gotcha.
No, but you're exposing yourself pretty hard.
You're missing out on some truly awful adaptations over the years
I would personally vote for the Mask
I love that movie, but you're right. It was obvious that the director wasn't particularly interested in what the original comic was trying to do. Anyway, as a child-friendly adaptation of a +18 story, it's pretty good. Also, Son of The Mask plays in it's own league in that regard.
Probably League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Why reference the book at all if you're going to change it that much?
Another good choice is The Spirit, which was like the studios gave Frank Miller a reach-around while he pissed on Will Eisner's grave.
to be fair the League comic hated it's source material
I very much do not agree.
On the wall of the League headquarters we learned that the Scarlet Pimpernel and his happy wife had teamed up with Gulliver, Orlando, and none other than Fanny motherfricking Hill. That's the sort of thing just casually dropped into the background.
It may be a strange love, but it loved its source material.
This simply isn’t true. Just because you add an Easter egg doesn’t mean you love and respect the originals.
iirc the decisions made in BoP aren't exactly of te author's own will, if this TVtropes selection says anything:
Lucifer and iZombie.
How many of them basically?
They wanted to make a female deadpool to cater to the "bad b***hes" who in reality are too afraid to ask for more ketchup if their table is out. They succeeded but ruined a good character in the process and shit on the source material
And the villain has African memorabilia, not that it wasn't a thing in the comics. But it looks like the movie is trying to shove some social criticism in there
Black mask has a mask fetish. If anything that's the only comic accurate thing in this whole movie.
Scott Pilgrim Takes Off’s soul purpose for existing was because O’Mailey hates everything about Scott Pilgrim at this point and wanted to do everything he could to destroy it
I'll never forgive what they did to Cass
I am BAFFLED at the insistence on making Black Canary literally black. Why wasn’t this racism on clickbait sites?
>Why wasn’t this racism on clickbait sites?
DChomosexuals are broken to it by this point.
Oh right that happened.
Hey. Remember how they're making live action Astrid black?
I don't watch live-action remakes of stuff I have already watched. And I didn't even watch the original in this case.
The Batman utterly broke the DC/WB fandom.
Now WB can get away with absolutely anything and they'll barely squeak.
Not saying it's necessarily the WORST (but it might be) but Tranktastic deserves mention here.
It felt like Fox at this point was holding the Marvel properties hostage, and abusing them on camera to goad Disney into buying them quick (New Mutants, Dark Phoenix).
Also, Son of the Mask. It butchers both the comic AND the entertaining first movie.
Fant4stic was pretty shit all around, but it was at least actually trying to be an adaptation of the Ultimate FF's origin. So you can't quite say it outright hated the source material, even if everything else in the film feels incredibly spiteful on multiple levels.
>Superhero comic book movies
>Ever being accurate
Snyder could have accomplished it with Watchmen but fell up his own butthole.
The only TRULY accurate comic book movie remains Sin City.
Can't see it surpassed in that regard.
Also Ang Lee's Hulk gets a lot of the story and feel of it right.
I like Ang Lee's Hulk and find it very underrated, but i don't know how i feel about Bruce's dad. Making him an actual super-villain (Absorbing Man) instead of just this haunting memory from Bruce's childhood never sat right with me
Oh yeah, he also made Hulk Dogs.
Ang Lee's Hulk feels like A comic book movie instead of a movie with characters based on comics.
What about Kick-Ass
Ok, fair.
I watch Kick-ass before I read the book. Kick-ass movie is better.
Infinity war by far
With the exception of Cass not being Cass and just using her name it was great
It's the lamest tack-on team since DP2's "X-Force", which was intentional satire.
Just about everything before Iron Man.
Raimi Spider-Man, with the exception of the organic webs and a terrible Peter, got the spirit of it absolutely right. Singer X-Men got more right than wrong, and Donner Supes is the best Supes is ever likely to get.
The Force Awakens trilogy.
But I don't want to start on a rant-sounding explanation, here. We know what they did.
Not Cinemaphile tho