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Floch is a facist
>Floch is a King
FTFY
Floch was a literal moron. Eren chose him because he knew that like many people with poor skills, no achievements, and shitty personalities he would be drawn to fascism and obey mindlessly.
>A guy giving up his life so his countrymen can thrive is moronic
okay schlomo
Aren't they all?
Is he talking to me, the humble anime viewer?
I hate the cuckvengers so much it's unreal. Even GoT's ending didn't aggravate me as much as this shite.
Manga speed readers are the ones b***hing while animeonlys are fricking loving it.
The anime was literally made so all the viewers forgot everything that happened in the previous parts.
Huh? It's the same frickin thing
No moron, I'm talking about the production. Every part since the ending came out has been produced with a year or more gap in between seasons, just enough time for all the viewers to forget what happened. For example nobody has to remember that Hange died for nothing because ten minutes later Falco turns into a bird, because to them it's been a year since that happened.
Bro nobody forgot shit. Most of the discussion about the last episode has been connecting it to previous seasons. It's not even that long of a wait either, especially compared to the wait between S1 and 2. Stop coping.
>Bro nobody forgot shit.
>implying
Just you wait homosexual. People always love trash movies until they turn their brains on and actually think about everything that happened in the story. But even then SnK will have a """contentious""" ending on release.
Cope moron. Also it's usually the other way around. The initial reaction will be hate and then people will ease off one the hatemob dies off. I like your particular breed of cope though, the whole "people will magically forget everything between seasons" thing is something you don't see often. Especially in this streaming era where everything is readily available and shilled down your throat at all times.
>The initial reaction will be hate and then people will ease off one the hatemob dies off.
L O S T and Sopranos spring to mind instantly as endings that were criticized but are now loved. I can't think of any widely beloved ending that people started hating with time.
LOST's ending is shit and the Sopranos' ending is p. good.
>I can't think of any widely beloved ending that people started hating with time.
That's because none of these awful endings are actually "widely beloved", it's just astroturfing and the fleeting momentary interest of normalgays. Consider endings like GoT, P&S, or all the SW sequels, all trash or "contentious" but now universally stated to be shit.
Naturally TLoU2 is a great example, since anyone who talks about it knows that it's shit and murdered the series outright. But of course anyone who says so is a chud despite one of the most glaring criticisms of the ending being the insane veneration of a moron who genocided most of the world. This is what I mean by saying nobody remembers what actually happened.
>Naturally TLoU2 is a great example, since anyone who talks about it knows that it's shit and murdered the series outright.
t. Cinemaphiletard still asshurt because his epic self-insert daddy got wrecked by a girl
Whatever you say Druk, please call me when TLoU3 actually comes out and makes as much money as the first game.
The success of the HBO series made Naughty Dog focus on TLOU3 while Factions 2 got delayed.
>sequel destroys the series and it's only revived when a TV show follows the first game
Can't wait for the second season, I'm sure it will be beloved.
TLOU2 has enough material for two or three seasons.
>I'm sure it will be beloved.
In all likelihood yes. GOT killed off Ned and Robb and then made Jamie a central protagonist and it’s popularity only grew. Normies love that shit, they don’t have the same hangups gaymers do.
The issue isn't killing off protagonists or making antagonists protagonists or the opposite, the issue is bad writing. For example nobody liked Jaime in the last season where he just backtracked his character arc and did nothing but simp for his sister again.
The end of Game of Thrones was a classic anime filler ending. They ran out of source material so they made some random shit up.
Jaime going back to Cersei made the most sense for his character. Plotgays hated it though because they wanted muh redemption arc. He slept with the manb***h and realized he loved Cersei more and didn't care if it made him a bad person.
The way it was written and played out was unsatisfying and rushed at best but it 100% made sense with the character.
Jaime's entire character is him realizing he became an butthole and regretting it. Him pulling a 180 made no sense and doing so in so little time undoing his arc is simply bad writing. There's no way to defend it
I mean I wont argue with the bad writing and it being rushed but Jaime was still doing bad shit while "regretting it." The 180 is him deciding to turn his back on Cersei despite being willing to burn down the riverlands for her. That made sense though because at the end of the day Jaime is still good to his core and wanted to fight for the living. Being with Brianne didn't leave him feeling satisfied though and I think at least that was made clear. He loved an evil b***h and couldn't help it. Not only does that track for his character the entire show but it's also realistic in reality as well.
People seething about his arc is a smaller version of the people who seethed about how Jon ended up. You don't really know the characters, you just got attached to your theories, wanted it to end up like your headcanon and were mad when it didn't. The final season was still paced horribly though with unironically dishonest filmmaking.
He waged war for his kids but hated Cersei, until the 180 out of nowhere. You don't know what you're talking about
>hated Cersei
C'mon now, I know you were in love with your headcanon but you have to know this is bs. Also kek at him loving his child over her as he forcibly fricks her or his corpse. Got anything at all that points to him hating her? Aside from him cursing the gods for making him love a hateful woman in a episode.
He literally had a line saying he didn't give a shit about the people of King's Landing when saving them was his entire motivation for killing the king and ruining his reputation to begin with. It does not make sense for him to not give a frick about Cersei murdering countless people and plunging the city into a failed siege because she's a stubborn b***h.
He's good to his core and will ruin his reputation if it means saving the city. But for Cersei he'll throw 100 kids out of a tower and burn the riverlands just so they can be together. It's called dramatic irony and it's the reason why you shouldnt be actively thinking about the writing as you're trying to experience a show. *He* thinks he doesn't care about the people because he's willing to do this without an ounce of remorse, but we know he does care because we have the privilege of seeing all his actions at once. He would literally do any amount of evil things to be with Cersei which makes him feel like a bad person that doesn't care about anything else.
That's laughable. This is exactly why character centric writing is such a plague upon the entertainment industry, anybody can justify anything in their head so long as they insert some inane idea that wasn't even in the show which explains why somebody 180*d and acted like a moron.
The reality is Cersei is insane. She herself didn't ever really care about Jaime and constantly cheated on him. In the show she ignores his advice or opinions almost every time they're brought up and essentially betrays his word to the northern alliance, choosing to leave them to the white walkers and risk the entire world's death just to get a potential slight political edge. And he rightly tells her to frick off and leaves to go to them and fulfill his word in whatever way he can, and she still leaves them to die.
After everything that happened over eight seasons of her becoming more and more of a megalomaniac and him slowly growing into a better person, throwing all that away right at the finish line is completely insane. There were always things more important to him than her, but somehow when all her actions contradict everything he believes is right, he still choses to support her. This is not good character writing, it's indefensible shlock inserted by D&D.
>anybody can justify anything in their head so long as they insert some inane idea that wasn't even in the show which explains why somebody 180*d and acted like a moron.
If you think Jaime loving Cersei is a 180 based on everything you've seen in the show youre the moron here.
>The reality is Cersei is insane. She herself didn't ever really care about Jaime and constantly cheated on him.
Relevance? I said Jaime was the one hopelessly in love
>he rightly tells her to frick off and leaves
Right, like I said. He's good to his core and wants to fight for the living.
>After everything that happened over eight seasons of her becoming more and more of a megalomaniac and him slowly growing into a better person, throwing all that away right at the finish line is completely insane
Not at all. He knows she's hateful and thinks he's hateful too for loving her. He wanted to change and be with Brianne but he realized that he still loves Cersei.
>somehow when all her actions contradict everything he believes is right, he still choses to support her
"The things we do for love"
>This is not good character writing, it's indefensible shlock inserted by D&D
They definitely dropped the ball when it comes to telling his story effectively but if the fat man ever finishes the books he will 100% also have a bait and switch when it comes to Jaimes redemption arc.
>If you think Jaime loving Cersei is a 180 based on everything you've seen in the show youre the moron here.
>using a screencap from season 8
You're insisting here that if only Cersei had told him to let King's Landing be destroyed by wildfire, he would have done it.
>Relevance?
The relevance is that the audience can see Cersei is a b***h and Jaime really has no reason to be so obsessed with her, and they've literally seen him grow apart from her over the course of the series culminating with him outright rejecting her will to leave her and go north in season 7. So when that's suddenly reversed in season 8, the audience senses it's bullshit and feels it's bad writing.
Please understand what you're doing here. You've moved from arguing that this isn't something people hated and continue to hate and will continue to hate, to arguing that their hate was unwarranted. These are two different arguments, as one is concerned with the nature and prevalence of public opinion and the other is concerned with the validity of that opinion.
The reality is that people didn't like it on the basis of the direction. You can justify it within the context of the show if you want, but people didn't buy the justifications when they first showed up on the screen either. GoT S8 is not suddenly going to get an upwelling of appreciation because of your arguments that it's actually good, nobody cared about those shit arguments then and they don't now and they never will. Please get over it and stop being a contrarian.
>using a screencap from season 8
The screencap was in reference to him thinking he's hateful and listing off the evil shit he did in previous seasons. The scene I mentioned where he fricks Cersei over his sons corpse after saying "why did the gods make me love a hateful woman" is shortly after the red wedding. The line "the things we do for love" is from the first episode when he compromises his morals to protect their secret. Again you'd have to be willfully moronic to not accept Jaime loved Cersei.
>The audience doesn't like her so neither should Jaime
Not how it works. He loves her and affirms that in every season. Again him rejecting her is the 180 despite fans calling for a redemption arc since season 2. Him going back to Cersei is him rejecting any growth.
>Please understand what you're doing here. You've moved from arguing that this isn't something people hated
I didnt say people didn't hate this ending tho? I was just commenting on the Jaime thing because I like discussing the show and the dumb reasons why people disliked it.
>The reality is that people didn't like it on the basis of the direction
I'm not shocked, DnD did a piss poor job executing it. I dislike the final season too but I was shocked when I went online and saw the moronic reasons why. I doubt people come around to it fully but I wouldn't be shocked if they did. The the show was but it's as if the hatemob couldn't accurately explain whats wrong so people would just say short sighted opinions that everyone would roll with. There's still people that don't realize Jon got the best possible outcome and think Dany KWABd Kings landing for no reason.
>nobody cared about those shit arguments then and they don't now and they never will
Kek it seems like you're trying to convince yourself that bud. Im not here to change minds though, just like discussing the shows I'm into.
>because I like discussing the show and the dumb reasons why people disliked it.
In that case I'll just leave you with your delusions.
there is no Jamie in TLOU2. there's just a bulldyke disguised as a troony.
Yes the classic bulldyke who only has sex with men and shows zero romantic or sexual interest in women
>chud still obsessed with TLOU2
Case in point.
Damn I kinda forgot how wildly inappropriate and laughably bad the dialogue and entire scene was there. I felt like 'It was Mikasa" was the funniest page with its totally out of left field plot and dramatic delivery but seeing it again I think thanking him definitely takes the cake. There's so many hilariously terrible pages in 137 and 139 that its hard to decide.
It's a translation issue. Isayama got worried about the overseas fans but the Japanese universally loved the ending.
I recall more than a few 2chan posts which would dispute that claim. In particular the Japanese audience loved the Eren/Mikasa romance then seethed at the extra pages where she fricks Jean because they're purity and loyalty-gays.
Eren getting NTR'd from beyond the grave was a genius move.
How?
I was gonna say, japanese fans typically eat up whatever slop they're given due to their homosexualy beta culture where they can't say anything bad or openly voice their displeasure... UNLESS there is some kind of cuckoldry/unfaithfulness and they feel betrayed by their waifu or on behalf of their favorite character. And at that point they flip their shit, ape out and start destroying their merchandise. I find it really funny.
So they're mad Eren didnt end up with Mikasa?
They'd be fine with that as long as Mikasa was a pure virgin forever, but instead she just acted like an autistic virgin and visited his grave while also getting a family fricked into her.
Japanese fans are vocal and they are not happy. They're discontented with the war crimes revenge and the whole NTR.
Do you think Isayama will retcon that with the new chapter? An au where Eren and Mikasa have a happy ending?
I heard the new chapter was supposed to be Levi's childhood.
>no happy ending
they were upset about mikasa marrying jean after eren dying tho
>LOST's ending is shit and the Sopranos' ending is p. good.
Both endings were widely hated and now fans love them. Turns out morons following a hate mob doesn't last. I bet people even end up liking the thrones ending with some time too.
>Anon says people usually come around and end up hating endings with time
>Switches it up when asked to provide examples
AoTs ending will be loved forever and you'll cope forever or 10 years at least.
>fans
Nobody is a "fan" of Lost, it's trash. Sopranos is okay. The "hate mob" is right 99% of the time, the only reason opinions can soften over time is because new content sucks so much in comparison even to the mediocre.
>Anon says people usually come around and end up hating endings with time
Look at the entire Marvel or Star Wars catalogue of the last like five years for one thing. "Loved" upon release, but as it turns out this was all shilling and actually it's a load of shit.
>Nobody is a "fan" of Lost, it's trash
Begone newbie L O S T is quintessential Cinemaphile culture even if you did get filtered by the ending
>The "hate mob" is right 99% of the time
Nah it's actually usually wrong or at best overexaggerating, especially in the internet discussion age. I'd say about 1/3rd of the time they're absolutely right though.
>Look at the entire Marvel or Star Wars catalogue
What was originally loved and is now hated?
TFA, TLJ? Or are you going to say it was all misunderstood and people are coming around to it now?
People hate TFA now? I'm out of the loop but I was under the impression that was the only one people liked. TLJ I know people hated originally though. Those user scores vs critics scores were always posted.
>People hate TFA now?
Yes. It's like the quintessential example of "liked at the time, hated later", because as time has gone on people realized what an empty, unstable foundation it laid for the plot of the trilogy.
Ya got me there then, honestly Id argue that it's mainly because the rest of the trilogy didnt pan out well though.
Put things in perspective. The people who hated the ending of Lost stopped talking about it a couple days later, moved on from it and the entire show. The only people who would want to talk about it is the people who liked it to the end.
It's not that its ending is now loved, is that only the people that loved it care to talk about it.
No its literally just people who didn't care about the characters and were only concerned with the mystery who disliked it. Also the morons who unironically think they were dead the whole time. Most people that didnt hate it were still lukewarm to it but ended up loving it on rewatch.
It's more like people who hated the ending can't tell you shit about the show because they were barely following it outside of trying to find the next hidden clue or lore hint.
I'm not talking about the quality of the ending here. What I'm trying to say is that the only people who want to talk about Lost and its ending are those that liked it.
It's not that the ending is universally loved because those who disliked it saw it in a new light, it's just that only people who liked it talk about it. If you see it praised it's because of that.
If you ask the ones who hated the ending about it, they'll just say "Oh, it was shit" and that's it, it was over a decade ago and they moved on, never rewatched it or anything and they don't talk about it.
I know I'm saying youre wrong because most of the people that like it now admit that they originally disliked it. Meanwhile when the ones that still dislike it get asked why it's something stupid like "they were dead the whole time." Which means they were just parroting the moronic hate mob at the time.
>most of the people that like it now admit that they originally disliked it
I look forward to you providing evidence for this idea. Screencapped Cinemaphile threads? Online articles or youtube videos maybe? God I'd love a three hour contrarian analysis on why lost is ackshully brilliant.
Just visit the next LOST thread you see and bring it up. Why the frick would I have those caps on hand?
>Meanwhile when the ones that still dislike it get asked why it's something stupid like "they were dead the whole time." Which means they were just parroting the moronic hate mob at the time.
You're actually joining the hate mob but on the other side by reducing the criticism the ending got to that kek
And no, the people who change minds where the lukewarm fans. The average fan that hated it never bothered with Lost again, and with good reason.
>You're actually joining the hate mob but on the other side by reducing the criticism the ending got to that kek
Why'd you hate it?
Because it exposed the reality of mystery box writing, showing that everything was made up on the fly. Lost is like a broken hymen for recognizing that Hollywood writers are hacks. You can say
>you're just mad your theory didn't come true
But in reality even if someone had no theories at all, it exposed that everything leading up to the end was just a series of misdirects without meaning, essentially jangling keys.
I meant the ending specifically
gatekeeper
Why'd you hate it anon?
Why would normies hate it? It will be nonstop action with tons of twists and emotional scenes at the end.
They won't. They're going to love it now and always. Anon thinks people will grow to hate it like they do every other beloved finale (citation needed)
they confirmed the anime ending will be different
They’re also retconning the manga with an epilogue chapter.I can’t remember the last time an IP did so much damage control.
didnt they already do that with the moronic eldians are wiped out thing
>they confirmed the anime ending will be different
The Port Battle is infuriating. All the plot armor on the Alliance side. The Yeagerists can't hit a single Hizuri with a thunder spear but Magath and Gabi have aimbot. Connie is suddenly an Ackermanm. Floch deserved better.
Or maybe if one person threw their spear at the boat from the start instead of the Titans...
The anime ending has been pure kino so far.
I’m almost all caught up so I can almost participate in threads! Now I’m leaving in order to remain spoiler free. Until next time!
You probably won't read this but I'll give you a semi-spoiler: Floch was right all along.
Are any of the spin-off manga any good or are they just throwaway cashgrabs?
>Are any of the spin-off manga any good or are they just throwaway cashgrabs?
I'm a canononly homosexual, dunno
>prostitutenie
frick you.
Shit taste
>Shit taste
she's hot but an evil prostitute
plenty of hot girls in the show none as evil as annie
Annie is love
Annie is life
that anime is so boring
Eren stomped all non-Eldians including Mikasa, and they all lived happily ever after. The end.
An unionically better ending than the official one.
You can't reason with people that don't see you as human. Killing all of them before they kill you first is the only play you have.
Eldians aren't human. They are monsters who eat people. Hell, they don't even people they just kill. Did you forget about that?
marley's propaganda department has arrived
>marley
You mean literally everyone in the world. There is more than the one country, they were ALL effected by Titans. How could it be that everyone in the entire world hates them if they're so good and innocent? Was there ever a time anyone said "maybe we shouldn't get rid of all the Titans"?
Cool it with the antisemitism.
Right, so if you view them that way and want to kill them, then what choice do they have but to kill you first?
Was it right for Eren to say "I want to kill all the Titans"? Then it must be more right for the rest of the world to say it.
>Turn someone into a monster and complain that monsters exist
Marleygays are moronic
unironically sounds like what Hamas sympathizers say to justify their actions, terrorist filth
No because I don't mean it in a metaphorical sense. The marleyans are *literally* turning them into monsters moron
Eldian defenders like you are the morons. Nobody turned them into monsters, they did it to themselves. Now they complain because they lost control of the power of Titans.
Again do you think there is only one country in the world? It is clearly shown there are lots countries, they all have Eldians remnant populations and they all hate Eldians for being cannibal monsters. But you Eldian defenders only bring up Marley as if no other country exists.
>put a literal and metaphorical cuckcage on your own race for 200 years because you don't wanna hurt other nations
>you're the bad guy
Markey are the ones championing the majority of the propaganda and narrative, dumbass.
>Nobody turned them into monsters
Y'know except for the ones who are literally injecting them with a serum to turn them into monsters.
>Markey are the ones championing the majority of the propaganda and narrative
No, they aren't. It seems like you forgot the meeting of world leaders where it is clear Eldian remnants in other nations are on the brink of genocide. Everyone hates them. It isn't "Marley propaganda" that Eldians are Titans, that they are the only "people" with that potential. That's why everyone hates them, they know what they are. Do you think history in the outside world is as twisted as it was within the Walls?
>Y'know except for the ones who are literally injecting them with a serum to turn them into monsters.
They already were monsters, they chose to be that way. You're saying "it's okay that they're demon worshipping cannibals because they don't have control of their monstrous power any more". What about when they used to control it and we're rampaging across the earth
Was it right for Eren to say "I want to kill all Titans"?
>Everyone else bought into the propaganda so now it's not propaganda
You're moronic m8
>It isn't "Marley propaganda" that Eldians are Titans
Painting them as subhuman monsters that's just want to kill everyone is though
>They already were monsters, they chose to be that way.
This stops being the case once the Eldians flee to paradise
>You're saying "it's okay that they're demon worshipping cannibals because they don't have control of their monstrous power any more
That's not what I'm saying, and with this logic the Marleyans are now the demon worshipping cannibals since they have the power and are doing the exact same thing
>Was it right for Eren to say "I want to kill all Titans"?
Depends on what you mean by "right." He was wrong, but only due to ignorance. Same with Gabi. Im not going to blame the ignorant for believing in what they consider truth.
>Everyone else bought into the propaganda so now it's not propaganda
No, everyone experienced the horror of Titans. Why do you think there are Eldian remnants all over the world? They were rampaging over the entire world. Everyone knows what monsters they are
>Painting them as subhuman monsters that's just want to kill everyone is though
That's what they always were. Everyone saw it, everyone experienced it.
>He was wrong, but only due to ignorance.
Yep, you're incapable of accepting a protagonist who isn't right about everything.
>The person thats long dead wills it
I said "the possessor of the First" the First being one of the Named Titans that always reincarnates. The First Titan has the power to create Titans.
There is no technology that will stop a living bomb. It is a plot point that Titans are becoming obsolete on the battlefield so the Eldian genocide is coming
>Also they literally are the exact same as humans before they transform.
How are they the same? Humans cannot become Titans. As long as Eldians exist the reincarnations of the Named Titans will exist. They can transform at will and create more Titans. They can never be normal
>hundreds of years
Not even, it's been barely a century since the Walls went up
>No, everyone experienced the horror of Titans
Nobody alive at the start of the show did
>Everyone saw it, everyone experienced it.
Nobody did until Eren KWABed them in s4
>you're incapable of accepting a protagonist who isn't right about everything
I literally said he was wrong
>the possessor of the First
It's not just the possessor of the first though, you need that and the kings blood who's entire lineage is long dead for all they know.
>Titans are becoming obsolete on the battlefield
So how are they an unstoppable threat?
>How are they the same? Humans cannot become Titans
Yeah that would be the transforming part dumbass. Outside of that they are exactly the same in every way. Unless youre whatever race the Ackermans are, then you have super powers.
>it's been barely a century since the Walls went up
That's right. Regardless most of the people alive have not experienced it.
You're logic is the same as every moron that still wants to punish white people for slavery or Germans for the Holocaust. It's delusionally moronic.
This "Eldians are people too" bullshit could work if it was shown that Titans are not a racial power, that anyone can become a Titan, showing Eldians are unfairly maligned because everyone has the same monstrous potential. But it never is, instead it is shown Eldians=Titans. They aren't fricking human.
It's like a zombie story but only Chinese can become zombies. Eldians are living bombs. Imagine a single Eldian is in a skyscraper and the First activates them from a mile away. It is a biological weapon with no means of detection or prevention
Eldians need special circumstances to turn though and they literally are the same as humans before they transform.
>Eldians need special circumstances to turn
The special circumstance is "the possessor of the First Titan wills it". The Beast's transformation power is a lesser version.
>they literally are the same as humans before they transform
No, they aren't. Humans cannot become Titans
>The person thats long dead wills it
I'd consider that an extremely special circumstance yes.
>They arent like humans before they transform because humans can't transform
You're a special kind of stupid
There is no way for Eldians to exist without being a threat to the world. As long as there are any of them the Named Titans will be among them capable of creating and controlling more Titans. Eldians can never be "normal humans"
Kek isnt it a major plotline in the beginning of S4 that technology is slowly making titan power useless? Also they literally are the exact same as humans before they transform.
No amount of technology can stop something like the rumbling so why take the risk?
Would you rather let some loose canon minority live and risk world destruction?
Zeke's plan was unironically the most humane take on the whole thing, take away their ability to reproduce and they get to live their life freely until they die out and stop being a threat for the world.
>No amount of technology can stop something like the rumbling
like 1-5 nukes or an armada of ww1/2 era navies could easily
Frick no they can't, nukes aren't some magical tool that can just stop the advance of MILLIONS of titans that are emitting ecosystem burning vapor.
>No amount of technology can stop something like the rumbling
There's countless videos on YouTube detailing how easy it would be to stop the rumbling. Even without using the upper limits of today's tech.
>Would you rather let some loose canon
Yeah nothing says loose canon like cowering behind walls
>Dude just castrate yourself and all of your people or we will slaughter everyone like the humane people we are
100% the Eldians get genocided before they all die out.
>100% the Eldians get genocided before they all die out.
They wouldn't, they could leverage the fact that they can unleash the rumbling if their peace is disturbed.
The world would just hold its breath for 80 years at most until they all die out peacefully and the titans are no longer a threat to the planet
This is the most moral approach to this whole conflict.
It's actually kinda funny how Eren rejected Zeke's plan but still died a virgin, lmao
>they could leverage the fact that they can unleash the rumbling if their peace is disturbed.
They already tried that dumbass, why would it work this time when they know the enemy is weaker?
>No amount of technology can stop something like the rumbling
you could stop it with WW2 tech
modern weaponry is overkill
That's the point of the show. You're supposed to flirt with the idea that these people are genetically different and dangerous, but some of them are good people, so maybe we should keep them. But even those good people can have kids with the genetic capacity for evil and destruction. It's a show about genetics.
Eldians should be exterminated. Literally all Eldians can be mind controlled by the founding titan. If Eldians spread, then all of humanity will be enslaved. Marley did nothing wrong
eldians already did enslave all of humanity though why are you crying about it, they let you go free didnt they
>They wanna enslave us!
>That's why they fricked off into their own island for hundreds of years!!
They were made to frick off by Fritz, the only good Eldian to ever live.
Unfortunately he didn't go far enough, he should've implemented Zeke's plan
>Fricks off to their own island
>Still spend all your efforts to prevent peace
>Shocked that he doesn't castrate everyone and leave the island defenseless after a generation
This anime became unwatchable when they switched studios.
I prefer MAPPA but yes, their first episodes were pretty bad
MAPPA made the awful decision of being more true to the author's vision. The first few seasons of the show were only good because they restructured the narrative and had a great cast and great music.
Isayama was the one who worked with them to reorder the anime to make it a bit more coherent and add in a few scenes, maybe he just gave up after everyone shat on his ending
Isayama was a homosexual who went on camera to put it on the record that he wanted to anger his fans for his own amusement. This homosexual made a bad ending on purpose and he deserves everything he gets.
>he deserves everything he gets.
Like lots of money?
like being a literal gay who never got over his oneitis, like having a horde of angry fans who antagonize him every time he shows his face online
Everyone loves him and calls AoT the greatest anime of the past decade
AoT is not #1 in any anime tier list ever, forever ever, and never will be
What anime released in this decade is consistently ranked above it?
Fullmetal Alchemist
The titan scenes in the early episodes were really shit by the shows standards but the got better. Outside of that I like the changes and feel it fits the tone more than the cutesy shit that Wit did.
dont give a shit how it looks but how the frick do they put Black person-babble music over scenes. especially scenes with fricking dialog
What are you on about anon
probably the hiphop over the levi v beast in s4
in the cave scene with bad-dad too
Isn't that a theme from the earlier seasons?
yeah its kennys theme
CRAPPA presents: Attack on titan the final season the final part part 3 of 10
GODPPA
>art style is more manga accurate
>hard workers: animated all seasons year by year while also working on other anikino
>great CGI on Colossus, it blends in with environment and characters
>titans' scaled correctly
>made CUTEkasa a big titted tomboy
>animated the Rumbling
Wit
>art style is too different from source
>lazy workers: took 6 months to animate Manlet kill Beast titan, first season and second season are 4 years apart
>shitty CGI on Colossus, feels like a fan-made anime from the 90s
>titan scaling is shit, RtS exposed them
>made 10 yo Mikasa wear lipstick
>animated Armin and Mikasa eating some cracker ration
It's not even a fair comparison, MAPPAchads won
>one of these is better than the other one
Only a weeb would say this.
They're both shit.
Nuh uh
isn't the whole plot of attack on titan basically a rip off of the israel palestine conflict?
>isn't the whole plot of attack on titan basically a rip off of the israel palestine conflict?
Yeah pretty much
Look he's crying :,( quick, allow your own genocide
>it's super effective
No, what? Eldians are israelites demon worshipping cannibals every hates. Even a century after the disappearance of the First Titan everybody knows the destruction these monsters cause, like the Avatar in reverse. There is not a nation in the world that would speak up in defense of Eldians, they're all ready to exterminate them. The only reason they haven't is because control of the Named Titans might change
at most you could only make a superficial interpretation that reads like that. Only brainlets think eldians are something other than europeans/japanese. Probably the manasiaticu based the character/setting on japs and their post ww2 destruction/propaganda but used european named/appearance characters as standins so it has the appearance of white guilt and all that shit.
They literally live in ghettos and wear armbands you dumbass. Which group of Europeans or Japanese does that apply to?
that is exactly the type of superficial comparison I was talking about. the eldians are a martial power depicted their ancient peoples depicted as rome-esque. the modern eldians are european named + colored, allied with literally japan, the ackermans are obviously a reference to germanic royal guards used in rome.
The armbands are hackyama trying to make equivalency between his perception of victimhood (vis a vis japs post ww2) and israelites. Which also coincides with the white guilt narrative (whether thats intentional or not)
>the eldians are a martial power depicted their ancient peoples depicted as rome-esque. the modern eldians are european named + colored
Literally the story of the Ashkenazim. Crack open the Old Testament some time dipshit
Ashkenazi are parasitic merchant vermin from Khazaria.
And yet their dna traces back to the Levant, not Central Asia.
Curious.
Their DNA is mixed and shows up they started as merchants in the silk road near Northern Turkey.
Nope. They’re middle eastern
>doesn't know where Turkey is on a map
not a single real nose in sight
Amalekites are a myth. Rabbis invented them. no one else has ever heard of them. If israelites really defeated this powerful nation then civilized peoples would have records of them. It's just more bullshit like israelites' claims of antiquity despite no record of their existence in Egypt and a record of Marduk (Moloch) worshipers in Babylon but no Yahweh.
Now Rabbis say Rome was Amalek, Christiandom was Amalek,Europe was Amalek, Germany was Amalek, the USA is Amalek so the prophecy of defeating Amalek can't be fulfilled until israelites destroy America and genocide the white race.
>If israelites really defeated this powerful nation then civilized peoples would have records of them.
Anon…
>The introduction of israelites crashed the bronze age with (one) survivor
>The next several thousand years was spent painting the surviving civilization of this great calamity as the worst evil in the world
The Sea Peoples were Italians and Iberians.
The most likely origin for the israeli race is the Deevs of Jerusalem, the City of Evil, who followed Zohak the child-sacrificer until he was driven East to Zaboulistan, where he founded the Shor al Zohak.
Their largest emigration wave back west came in the form of "Turkish" tribes like the Ifrasayeb who all have the 6-pointed star of Moloch.
Sea Peoples were Atlanteans. Read the Oera Linda. Depictions of them in contemporary art show a boat with round shields in a row -like Vikings.
right so when was it israelites colonized the third world and when was it that europeans became militarily dependent on israelites to fight the middle east (alliance)? you surely aren't taking a few israeli spats as evidence of roman/colonial era style conquest are you, because that would be pretty moronic
The author is a braindead asiatic who knows nothing about politics. He tried to base it off Europe with israelites & the Holocaust but then the israelites also become bigger fascists who kill all who oppose them? So yeah it’s kinda like Israel & Palestine, two unlikeable homosexual clans causing a buncha ruckus the rest of the world has to pretend to care about
Glassing both Marley & Eldia with two US nukes would’ve been the most based ending. Floch is cool however
10 YEARS
>hot hapa sis familyzones him
>kills 80% of the world
>turns out she was into him since the beginning
>incel meltdown ensues
this mango is a cautionary tale, women should always tell men how they feel towards them
she literal begs him to frick her the entire show
No, not literally. Also they often spend the majority of each season split up.
she literally throws her pussy at him and he says no way gay in response
Scene?
>ynr this actually happened
hehehehehheheheheheh
Never cared tbh. As Armin points out, it's pathetic but then again, Eren's madly overstressed and the reflection itself is reasonable.
Zero sympathy for self-insert gays, I wish more series ended like this. With the MC getting cucked to death.
Happens in Death Note too. Not for animeonly chads though.
Literally me
This was such a minor scene compared to kruger etc being raised from their literal graves to cuck themselves. Nevermind the battlehardened medieval peasants who have seen legions of their comrades die, for no reason suddenly wanting to save people who hate them. The level of absurdity of that final arc is so bonkers, I'm glad I knew asians were incapable of art beforehand so I never really got invested
Why is it so impossible for midwits to conceive how it's possible for one person to want to save another despite the other one hating them? The reality is that they are not enemies no matter how much one hates the other. Nobody needs to get hurt.
>Nobody needs to get hurt.
They say as they are being literally genocided.
Uh yeah? I think you would want to stop people from getting hurt if they are being genocided anon.
>t. armin
Armin is based and the biggest Chad on the show. You look down on him because you perceive him as weak, however it takes much more strength to carry his philosophy the way he has since episode one.
>t. Isayama
People are drowning in a puddle, there's no deep philosophical meaning to it, Isayama is a gay, a literal homo, Armin is his self-insert, Eren is based on his best friend, he mentioned in an interview that he resented his BF's wife for "stealing him", much like he resented the audience for not liking Armin, so he took a huge dump on the series as vengeance.
Nobody implied if was that deep, it's actually a very straightforward and simple philosophy. Also going to by the shows canon everyone except Armins best friends agreed Erwin was the obvious pick in the moment. Levi was about to give him the serum and decided to let him die for personal reasons.
it's a great template tho
Frick MAPPA.
Who cares? Flochsuckers and Alliancecucks are homosexualS. Alliance are a bunch of sissies.
>h-hey if we s-suck up to these elites who caused all this mess to begin with then maybe we’ll be accepted!!
No frick that. The elites or other countries cannot be expected to act in good faith. Kill all their governments and instill new ones who are more favorable to Eldians. Make a brand new empire based on benevolence, and not whatever homosexualry fritz had.
>TLDR, REINHARD WON
>Trying to prevent the complete annihilation of humanity outside of paradise is sucking up to the elites
>Make a brand new empire based on benevolence after killing everyone who disagrees with you
Some of you anons make zero sense
>Trying to prevent the complete annihilation of humanity outside of paradise is sucking up to the elites
I don’t disagree that the rest of the world shouldn’t be genocided, but when you’re trying so desperately to pander to the people in power like the Tyburs or pic related, then yes it is sucking up to the elites. You cannot expect good faith negotiations from the corrupt elites like pic related who even cheer on the idea of killing paradisians. They’re too corrupt and far gone.
Nobody is saying kill anybody that disagrees with you. Just that those people who want to destroy paradisians or continue treating Eldians like shit in general can’t be in power anymore. Even Reinhard, as powerful as he was, didn’t censor free speech.
You're right on that one. I will say though that creating allies and trying to shift the narrative is the best way to prevent any bloodshed on either side. Most of the elites only hate them purely out of fear as well and are being fed a false history. It really was a situation that was capable of being handled if Eren didn't go berserk on em.
> You're right on that one. I will say though that creating allies and trying to shift the narrative is the best way to prevent any bloodshed on either side.
Oh for sure 100%. I’ve been saying this since day one. If they had shifted the narrative to anything other than race by making it about class, Marley getting out of control, whatever then they could have DEFINITELY gotten their cake and eat it too.
>Most of the elites only hate them purely out of fear as well and are being fed a false history. It really was a situation that was capable of being handled if Eren didn't go berserk on em.
That is fair, either way three things are for sure: the attack on Liberio was unnecessary, and a rumbling on the rest of the world is even more so.
What were the top theories for what the basement would reveal before the Marley reveal? Were people expecting aliens or future earth?
I think the assumption was the reveal would be that humans created Titans and it would show the secret to stopping them
People really got broken on this series because they can't handle a protagonist who isn't right about everything
FYM. The protagonist was right about everything.
>protagonist that wasn't right about everything
he literally just pulled a lelouch and was 100% right about everything
tranime never ended well but you never learn
have a nice day newhomosexual Black person. Go back.
Only Ymir knows why.
I stopped watching this a while ago. Is that man in the middle supposed to be Mikasa?
Yes, that's Mikasa. She got reassignment surgery during the timeskip.
Is he still asian?
>Ereh...
What happened to Mikasa?
It turns out Isayama, the author, is really a gay homosexual in real life, and his self insert was Armin and his gay crush was his irl best friend who he inserted as Eren. As the series continued, he got really resentful that people wanted Eren, his gay crush, to get with Mikasa instead of his own self insert Armin.
>It turns out Isayama, the author, is really a gay homosexual in real life
This explains everything
not being executed for disagreeing with the government for one
everything after the time skip was garbage
>HEY EREN
SNIFFner is the best
the frick is wrong with hackayama
Any ideas for what the new chapter in 2024 could bring about? Retcon Eren dying somehow? Continue the current epilogue with the tree?
We have to get the directors cut. The epilogue chapters we got are just redundant garbage. History repeats and all that trash. Who gives a frick!!
we'll have to wait for the snydercut.
Alternate timelines.
Isayama is unironically a genius
He made you all root for literal man eating monsters by focusing on their POV throughout the story.
If such a minority ever existed you'd all advocate for genocide against them.
How do we tell him?
>If such a minority ever existed
bruh..
Why didn't the titan that ate Eren get his powers anyway? Was it to do with something his dad did or the different nature of the attack titan?
Because generally isn't that how it works? You get eaten your powers get transferred to the titan eating you?
they need to imbibe their spinal fluid, the titan didnt chew or have time for him to be digested before eren exploded him
the frick are you talking about moron
It was directed towards the "no reason to save someone that hates you" part of your midwit post.
no shit moron, I wanted you to try to expand your moronic statement
The wording is convoluted enough, what's the part that confuses you?
are you esl or just really dumb?
It's expanded enough, how is it hard for you to grasp?
ok both
I want to FRICK Hange, Mikasa, Sasha, Ymir, Historia, Hannah, Annie, Ymir Fritz, Rico, Anka, Carla, Pieck, Dina, Alma, Mikasa's mom, Lara, Louise, Lynn, Mina, Caven, Nanaba, Nifa, Yelena, Frieda, Petra, Gabi, Zofia, Sandra, Hitch, Ilse, Kaya, Kiyomi, and Abel. I want to FRICK them so FRICKING bad.
>mfw foursome with Mikasa, Hitch and Pieck
If the inheritor of the Attack Titan has memories from the future controlling him does free will even exist?
Isayama's work is so profound and intellectual you need at least 280IQ points to fully grasp it.
You are the only one who answered OPs question.
Isn't that what Eren's whole pissy dilemma is in the final arc?
Yeah only the attack titan from the future controlling him is himself. The dilemma comes with him having the benefit of hindsight.
Armin is confused because Eren told them that he's finally free. The implication being that the rumbling is something he wants and enjoys. He knows eren is a little crazy but not on the level that he'll wipe out humanity if he doesn't have to. Thus begging the question "in what way are you free?"
The trailer pretty much spoils the answer though. He's not free, he's a slave to his pursuit of freedom.
i love 3dmg
everything after basement scene is just a trainwreck. but i will rewatch the first 3 seasons just like i do with lotr trilogy once in a while. its peak kino.
This art is horrid
Well, the manga art is horrid, so they never had a good basis to begin with.
Why is tr/a/nime on Cinemaphile?
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AoT has been Cinemaphile ever since this scene newbie. Don't you have a not so thinly veiled /misc/ thread to bump?
nope, tranime is still not Cinemaphile related
back to discord
SnK? Kino.
Floch? God.
Kyomi? Floch'd.
Shadis? Cuck'd.
Mikasa? Horse'd.
Hisu? Farm'd.
You? homosexual.
calm down ladies (male)
sauce
Artist?
>post 2016 newbie thinks hes the authority on what's Cinemaphile
Go back
The Hamas attacks on Israel is like when the warrior group attacked paradise island. The total destruction of Gaza is like the rumbling. Fricking kino
Pieck is literally Anne Frank.
Armin questions Eren because if he was really free he wouldn't need his friends to stop him and put him out of his misery, he could just stop himself but he can't because he is obsessed with his idea of freedom.
AOE soon brothers
those alliance dogs will be flattened with everyone else
Imagine watching cartoons after the age of 11. Pathetic.
>write great series
This makes you cool
>torture charactergays and shippergays simultaneously
This makes you GOAT
>torture charactergays and shippergays simultaneously
Utterly based
Attack on Titan is tragedy porn. Trauma inducing. And degenerate.
Tragedy porn how?
i dropped this shit the second it was revealed people could turn into Titans
saved this one from when the ending was revealed
you homosexuals are still just as pathetic
tomboy mikasa is so fricking hot
That's a dude.
cringe
Tranime
tranovies and tranelevision
Like Euphoria and the Barbie movie.
Is that Mikasa in the middle? Why does she look like a troony?
only ymir knows
Eren is the model we should strive for, except for the part where he lost.
I don't blame either side for fighting for the death of the other, it's a situation where there could be no compromise
However it is entirely Marley's fault the series happened, they could have very easily not invaded the jerkoff island and everything would have been fine for the foreseeable future
>let the founder sit in Paradis while you openly use that population as your slave war force
If you’re a world power house it makes perfect sense why they’d retake the founder. It wasn’t a random nation in hiding, they were the predominant force at the time
This, the Tyburs just used the fact marleyans & the rest of the world fricking hate Eldians to their advantage. Of course they’d support the invasion when they already want them genocided. The real reason was resources because Marley was losing ground as neighboring nations were able to combat titans
Bring me b***hren.
>show with moronic Reddit platitudes about freedom that the fandom loves to repeat
>quite possibly the most mindbroken fanbase that constantly lets the ending live rent free
SnKeks are the Tool fans of anime, its genuinely embarrassing. Hasn't it been like three years now or something?
Regular SnK fans moved on and are just waiting for the anime ending. Chuds and shippergays are the ones still upset about Eren being cūcked at the end. You can see the same thing happening with TLOU2, most people stopped caring about it while chuds are still angry about it.
>Chuds and shippergays are the ones still upset about Eren being cūcked at the end
THIS
>just stop caring bro!
No. Whenever the topic comes up for the rest of my life, I WILL voice my dissatisfaction with the ending of this series and you WILL put up with it.
I can't wait for animeonlys to experience the finale of AoT
Can't wait for that complete 180
has any ending been bungled more than this? even the anime release schedule is so fricked.
>Shingeki no Kyojin
Most Garbage Normie Anime for Fake Weebs or Otakus ever made
>nooooooo you're not a real weeb unless you've watched and memorized the entire series of Supaa Pretty Tentacle Buttfrick Shoujo (1985)
who cares gay
I liked the ending
Also
Frick israelites
And frick eldians
yep, I'm team eren. wanna see what kind of shonen bullshit this anime pulls for the redditors to save the day with logic and science.
I'm free ballin'.
cope chuds
he won
Reminder
This actually looks like shit. I've seen the first season and don't remember it being this ugly
Different animation studio, Crappa.
Is the ugly b***h on the middle supposed to be Mikasa?
Yup, now she looks like a man, literally.
That's fricked
Im pretty sure the author realized too late that he was making an argument either way for genocide that really couldn't be debated. Of course any Eldian in Eren's position would want to eradicate the rest of the world, because they are always going to be seen as the monsters that they undeniably are. Of course any non-Eldian would want to purge the ticking timebomb race, its way too dangerous to leave even a single one alive when even the weakest shifter can anihilate a city, shift back to human, and just move on to the next.
It's a bit deeper than that, but I'll agree with you though that in the kill or be slaughtered world he established yeah thats basically the gist of it. The upper limit of that approach where you're willing to kill 80% of humanity because they're against you kinda proves why that's a world that needs to change lol.
Why did they do the moronic anime thing with this show?
Why couldn't it have just been:
>"Hey, there's these titan things. We don't know what they are or why they're here. We can sort of fight back this way but we take heavy losses. Shit sucks"
Like, when it turned out that one guy was the mega titan and he just sort of did it for no reason, that was pretty moronic.
Because without that element you just get a plot like The Great Wall or Reign of Fire or something.
Reign of Fire was fricking kino.
Yes.
>Why didn't they just make it a generic zombie show
Because it's been done to death and adding a layered plotline makes things interesting. Also Bertholt didn't destroy the wall for no reason.
>finish reading the manga
>i wonder how some of these moments looked in the anime