I remember mike stoklakas saying he thought clones would be invading from another galaxy and he hates the prequels because it doesnt align to his fan fiction
I remember mike stoklakas saying he thought clones would be invading from another galaxy and he hates the prequels because it doesnt align to his fan fiction
Interestingly it is effectively what ends up happening in Legends with the Yuuzhan Vong.
Clones were already mentioned in the Thrawn books before AotC. The only difference is that they were every race, and were mentally unstable or something like that.
I had no conception. But liked it. The prequels as a whole just made me dislike most fellow SW fans, who took it more seriously than I ever did. Now I hate them more for breaking Lucas to the point that he thought should sell to Disney.
Clones were already mentioned in the Thrawn books before AotC. The only difference is that they were every race, and were mentally unstable or something like that.
i also recall the novels implying it was more of a straightforward war with palpatine fighting the republic
>Mara’s impression of the Clone Wars is so awful that she’s willing to work with Luke against Thrawn to prevent a second round of Clone Wars. >There are “Clonemasters” >Clones are grown in “Spaarti Cylinders” and can have their template’s memories “flash imprinted” in them. Cloning usually takes ten years for a stable clone, but can be done faster if clones are sequestered from the Force >someone cloned Jedi Master Jorus C’Baoth
It honestly held up pretty well if you think that Kaminoans were using Spaarti Cylinders.
Honestly, I never gave it any thought. I saw Star Wars when it first came out at the age of 8 and thought Obi Wan said "Cologne Wars" and even that didn't really make me wonder. It was just some shit that happened in the past and wasn't terribly relevant to the story at hand.
If only it had stayed that way...
I remember one of my friends mentioning that Obi-wan might've been a clone, so there would be an Obi-two and Obi-three.
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I thought it was cloned evil jedis fighting the good ones. It also seemed like some side war and not the defining event that brought down the republic, created the empire and changed the galaxy. Cause like, Luke shouldn't have been surprised if Obi-wan fought in it then, all the old people should have been affected by it somehow if it was that big.
In any case, the clones were thought to be the bad guys. I was always partial to the Obi-Wan we meet in the original trilogy actually being a clone, as stupid an idea as that is.
I had an attack of the clones movie poster with yoda riding in a gunship with clones. I thought they were going to bad since they had stormtrooper looking armor, but couldn't understand why yoda would be cruising with them
What I find odd about the Clone Wars is the name for the conflict we got. The Separatist Wars or simply the Galactic civil war make far more sense. Or even the Clone-Droid War or just Droid Wars makes more sense better.
In-universe who named it? I know Yoda tells Obi-Wan the Clone Wars have begun but, it seems ridiculous the conflict got named by Yoda.
>it seems ridiculous the conflict got named by Yoda
It was. For some reason George felt the need to interconnect everyone and everything. And with each one, the star wars galaxy become smaller and smaller. Just like with Yoda knowing Chewie or Anakin building C3P0 and flying with R2.
It makes sense to me. For the average Republic citizen, the war was just something going on in the background (except for the Coruscant raid), and the real "face" of the war that they encountered in their everyday life was the mysterious clone army that basically took over the Republic military. Perhaps Yoda was merely echoing the public sentiments at the time?
Pre-prequel clones were pretty much the same thing but they fought against the republic and were lead by "Atha Prime" who would later become Shadowspawn.
The big difference in the movies was that this was an inside job.
There was also a great Jedi purge led by Mandalorians, which was very similar to Order 66.
Also, Vader and Kenobi fought near a volcano and he was left for dead, but would not become a cyborg immediately. It was a process that took around 20 years and he gradually became more robotic after various battles.
I don't think this is a great suggestion but, how about something like 'The Gathering Darkness'?
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Or, to take from the soundtrack, 'Across the Stars'.
The prequels tried following in the footsteps of the names of the OT, albeit inverted. Instead of a vague new hope, there was a resurgent phantom menace. Instead of the return of the jedi, there was the revenge of the sith. AOTC has part of the parallel with Empire Strikes Back with attack/strike, but Clones aren't exactly the inverse of the Empire. The Republic would be.
So it should be something like 'Attack on the Republic' 'Republic Under Siege' 'Republic At War' 'The Republic Offensive' 'Republic Assault' etc.
War Droids were mentioned in Dark Empire in the 90s as having participated in the Clone Wars but were outlawed after the conflict.
I personally thought it was some kind of battle royale between a Republic in civil war, with the Mandolorians and the Hutts on Palpatine's side and a couple other factions on the side of the Jedi who were defeated (Bothans, Mon Cal, etc. People who made up the Rebellion). My reasoning for this was I thought the Imperial Guardsmen were Mandolorians, since foreigners unattached to local politics being used as elite royal guards is a common thing. It's also why the Empire tolerated Hutt Space and why Jabba knew what a Jedi mind trick was, the Imperialists and Hutts were allies against the Jedi.
Exactly this, when someone says to me "Clone Wars" I would have assumed it was just a giant meat grinder of two factions throwing clones at each other.
Instead we get discount storm troopers and robots who should be completely outclassed but somehow hold their own against humans.
I remember thinking it must have been a bunch of small to medium wars initiated by Separatists, radicals, warlords, and pirates over several years or even a couple decades. They'd all be for different, not very important reasons, but the thing they'd have in common is the use of cheap Clone armies that would cause them to pose an outsize threat to the Republic.
we always knew it was a brown menace / george being racist thing
originally lando was supposedly one of the few remaining clones from the war and cloud city was going to be clone city
he changed them from black to maori when filming in austrailia because he realized they hadn't discovered money yet
We thought it was just a war that got out of control and depopulated the galaxy and it got to the point of manufacturing clones. And there's no sense that the Empire "won" it, but rather that it emerged from the devastation.
What we got is the best version within reason. It gives Palpatine an extra dimension of villainy without being absurd, since after all funding terrorist groups to move the masses and increase the size of the state is a democratic tradition.
I remember mike stoklakas saying he thought clones would be invading from another galaxy and he hates the prequels because it doesnt align to his fan fiction
>mike stoklakas
>clones would be invading from another galaxy
Jesus christ that sounds so fricking dumb
Interestingly it is effectively what ends up happening in Legends with the Yuuzhan Vong.
you mean the EU
I always thought the same thing, that the clones were an alien race that invaded and sent the entire galaxy into war, leading to the Empire.
>Star Wars: bodysnatcher Edition
would be kinda schlock. Then again moike loves his schlock
Clones were already mentioned in the Thrawn books before AotC. The only difference is that they were every race, and were mentally unstable or something like that.
I had no conception. But liked it. The prequels as a whole just made me dislike most fellow SW fans, who took it more seriously than I ever did. Now I hate them more for breaking Lucas to the point that he thought should sell to Disney.
i liked the idea they were cloning force users to swarm out the jedi, and the clones died after a year or two.
The Thrawn trilogy mentioned the early clones being unstable, but that's pretty much it.
i also recall the novels implying it was more of a straightforward war with palpatine fighting the republic
Yes. It wasn't an inside job to put it simply.
Just reread Thrawn.
>Mara’s impression of the Clone Wars is so awful that she’s willing to work with Luke against Thrawn to prevent a second round of Clone Wars.
>There are “Clonemasters”
>Clones are grown in “Spaarti Cylinders” and can have their template’s memories “flash imprinted” in them. Cloning usually takes ten years for a stable clone, but can be done faster if clones are sequestered from the Force
>someone cloned Jedi Master Jorus C’Baoth
It honestly held up pretty well if you think that Kaminoans were using Spaarti Cylinders.
Honestly, I never gave it any thought. I saw Star Wars when it first came out at the age of 8 and thought Obi Wan said "Cologne Wars" and even that didn't really make me wonder. It was just some shit that happened in the past and wasn't terribly relevant to the story at hand.
If only it had stayed that way...
Yeah, I just thought of it as a throwaway line.
I remember one of my friends mentioning that Obi-wan might've been a clone, so there would be an Obi-two and Obi-three.
Life really was better without the internet.
I thought it was something cool, not the lame shit we got.
it was cool
Watch the Rick Worley review. He explains why the prequels are good.
Nah, it was cool.
frick, so cool
I thought it was cloned evil jedis fighting the good ones. It also seemed like some side war and not the defining event that brought down the republic, created the empire and changed the galaxy. Cause like, Luke shouldn't have been surprised if Obi-wan fought in it then, all the old people should have been affected by it somehow if it was that big.
Well keep in mind Luke thought he was just some weird desert hermit on a backwater planet in the outer rim
In any case, the clones were thought to be the bad guys. I was always partial to the Obi-Wan we meet in the original trilogy actually being a clone, as stupid an idea as that is.
Obi 1 Kenobi
There must have been Obi 0 Kenobi (the original man).
Either
>Jedi fighting orc-like clones
or
>Something involving clone Jedi
I had an attack of the clones movie poster with yoda riding in a gunship with clones. I thought they were going to bad since they had stormtrooper looking armor, but couldn't understand why yoda would be cruising with them
Some kind of alien monsters was one of the more popular theories.
t. oldgay
What I find odd about the Clone Wars is the name for the conflict we got. The Separatist Wars or simply the Galactic civil war make far more sense. Or even the Clone-Droid War or just Droid Wars makes more sense better.
In-universe who named it? I know Yoda tells Obi-Wan the Clone Wars have begun but, it seems ridiculous the conflict got named by Yoda.
>it seems ridiculous the conflict got named by Yoda.
it is ridiculous but what's one more farce in the prequel dumpster fire?
t. Mike
Jawohl
>it seems ridiculous the conflict got named by Yoda
It was. For some reason George felt the need to interconnect everyone and everything. And with each one, the star wars galaxy become smaller and smaller. Just like with Yoda knowing Chewie or Anakin building C3P0 and flying with R2.
It makes sense to me. For the average Republic citizen, the war was just something going on in the background (except for the Coruscant raid), and the real "face" of the war that they encountered in their everyday life was the mysterious clone army that basically took over the Republic military. Perhaps Yoda was merely echoing the public sentiments at the time?
Pre-prequel clones were pretty much the same thing but they fought against the republic and were lead by "Atha Prime" who would later become Shadowspawn.
The big difference in the movies was that this was an inside job.
There was also a great Jedi purge led by Mandalorians, which was very similar to Order 66.
Also, Vader and Kenobi fought near a volcano and he was left for dead, but would not become a cyborg immediately. It was a process that took around 20 years and he gradually became more robotic after various battles.
I didnt imagine a single dude vs robots
Attack of the Clones is such an odd name.
What else could they have done?
I don't think this is a great suggestion but, how about something like 'The Gathering Darkness'?
too vague. that's where the sequel triology's titles failed
Like the other Anon implied, these just sound like dull Disney titles.
Or, to take from the soundtrack, 'Across the Stars'.
The Assassination of Queen Amidala by the Coward Jango Fett
>Mystery of the Clones
>Secrets of the Clones
The Hidden Army
The prequels tried following in the footsteps of the names of the OT, albeit inverted. Instead of a vague new hope, there was a resurgent phantom menace. Instead of the return of the jedi, there was the revenge of the sith. AOTC has part of the parallel with Empire Strikes Back with attack/strike, but Clones aren't exactly the inverse of the Empire. The Republic would be.
So it should be something like 'Attack on the Republic' 'Republic Under Siege' 'Republic At War' 'The Republic Offensive' 'Republic Assault' etc.
I remembered thinking, "Oh hey, it's a Boba Fett-lite, I wonder what his deal is."
The emperor cloned jedi to fight the originals and also the mandalorians were directly under the orders of the emperor and caused havoc
As a kid I remember thinking it was a war where somebody had somehow cloned a bunch of Jedi and turned them evil and the good Jedi had to stop them.
War Droids were mentioned in Dark Empire in the 90s as having participated in the Clone Wars but were outlawed after the conflict.
I personally thought it was some kind of battle royale between a Republic in civil war, with the Mandolorians and the Hutts on Palpatine's side and a couple other factions on the side of the Jedi who were defeated (Bothans, Mon Cal, etc. People who made up the Rebellion). My reasoning for this was I thought the Imperial Guardsmen were Mandolorians, since foreigners unattached to local politics being used as elite royal guards is a common thing. It's also why the Empire tolerated Hutt Space and why Jabba knew what a Jedi mind trick was, the Imperialists and Hutts were allies against the Jedi.
Personally I thought it'd be two armies of clones.
Exactly this, when someone says to me "Clone Wars" I would have assumed it was just a giant meat grinder of two factions throwing clones at each other.
Instead we get discount storm troopers and robots who should be completely outclassed but somehow hold their own against humans.
I remember thinking it must have been a bunch of small to medium wars initiated by Separatists, radicals, warlords, and pirates over several years or even a couple decades. They'd all be for different, not very important reasons, but the thing they'd have in common is the use of cheap Clone armies that would cause them to pose an outsize threat to the Republic.
I don't know but I hate the idea of several wars being grouped together like that, it might as well be one long war
I hoped it would be a good movie about cool war. It was people talking a lot and 2 minutes of war in last 10 minutes.
the war itself doesn't matter, just how it started and ended
Well do not call episode "wars" then. Very misleading for young people that do not expect such treachery.
To me it sounded like a doppelganger/bodysnatcher/The Thing situation with clones replacing people and causing trouble. Like Star Trek DS9.
we always knew it was a brown menace / george being racist thing
originally lando was supposedly one of the few remaining clones from the war and cloud city was going to be clone city
he changed them from black to maori when filming in austrailia because he realized they hadn't discovered money yet
We thought it was just a war that got out of control and depopulated the galaxy and it got to the point of manufacturing clones. And there's no sense that the Empire "won" it, but rather that it emerged from the devastation.
What we got is the best version within reason. It gives Palpatine an extra dimension of villainy without being absurd, since after all funding terrorist groups to move the masses and increase the size of the state is a democratic tradition.
the only man who understands the prequels and their significance
A war with clones but the clones were evil.
From a certain point of view, the clones fought the Jedi.