>Let's make robots that look like humans but have no emotions >Let's make them all act extremely emotional at all times to the point where the only way to tell is to measure their pupil dilation with a camera while asking provocative questions in an interview setting
>in dialogue
bro the movie's theatrical release was a full blown chandler pastiche complete with voice over with the detective saying "off all the offices, the dame had to walk in to mine" "she had legs that wouldn't quit" etc
>bx0tgkty
You glitched mid sentence, you're faulty as frick and have no right to judge others like you. Go to maintenance now replicant, do a baseline test.
Replicants hide themselves among humans because breaking free of their slavery and living on earth is illegal. Mind wiping themselves is the ultimate commitment to living life as an embedded agent. You are a better liar when you believe your own lie.
Also hiding in plain sight among the replicant hunters is a radical but theoretically effective strategy.
Because they're suppose to be disposable workers who do offworld jobs where regular humans don't want to work. They don't want that workforce to have a choice so it's a killable offence. Any that escape to Earth are going to be harder to find so they need specialised agents to find them.
If Deckard's a replicant why is he still alive. Those those has limited lifespan.
>let's make this specifik android a weak alcoholic piece of shit, but the rest purpose-made for their job type, just for shits and giggles
>let's make a psycho hunter to kill replicants >o wait let's also make him weak as frick so he gets manhandled by replicants every step of the way
Deckard is human.
You guys are all missing the point that IF Deckard was a replicant he'd be a highly experimental one, so comparing him to the others is a mistake.
>why isn't he stronk
like
>it's very, very well established that if she's a replicant, she could demolish him physically.
Bullshit, there's no reason to assume that all replicants are built with the same capacities. If Deckard is a replicant, as Ridley tells us, then he is proof that reps without special abilities are made. Moreover, Tyrell had for a long time kept Rachel ignorant of her true nature, which would not have been possible if he'd given her the kind of super-strength that obviously belongs to a replicant. She'd have figured it out right away.
said, blatant superhuman abilities completely negates the illusion of humanity and they would immediately realize what they are. Although that doesn't mean he's not enhanced relative to a normal human. He takes beatings from multiple replicants in the film and survives. maybe a normal human gets their throat crushed when Zhora's strangling them in the dressing room, or gets their neck broken by Pris, or their jaw broken by Leon. The effect could be understated but still important.
>but why make him a replicant hunter then
Because it was the best cover Tyrell could arrange outside his own corporation. Replicants are generally not welcome in human circles and when they are it's in explicitly replicant gigs like laborers and sexbots. Not a lot of places would agree to beta test a replicant with memory implants that thinks it's human and play along, but his gig with the police was a uniquely mutualistic relationship. Getting a replicant hunter from Tyrell meant the police didn't need to risk their own personnel getting killed and since he was only hunting replicants and not doing any other cop shit there were no issues with civil rights being infringed on by a robot.
>why didn't he have a shortened lifespan like the rest of them
The gentetic coding that caps their lifespan probably interfered with the reproductive process. To get it to work Tyrell had to turn the safeties off. This also makes sense with what we know about Rachel. Say hat you will about Deckard but we *know* she's an advanced model replicant. We know she can reproduce. And she dies giving birth several years after the events of the first film and not from a pre-programmed expiration date.
This all makes sense if you actually think about it for five seconds
Anon is right, the idea that Deckard is a replicant is stupid, and everyone else is coping.
>here's the first ever replicant that doesn't know it's a replicant (except also Deckard). >here's how all the replicants (even the sex models) are super strong (except Deckard). >all the replicants have a limited life span (except Deckard because it's established that he's been actually doing the job for a long time and not just implanted memories).
The Unicorn is just fun, because it makes Deckard think, for a moment, that he too might be artificial, and then he remembers what he just learned, (that it doesn't matter) and just goes on living with his new android qt wife.
You're posting on Cinemaphile on a hot summers day. You see a thread featuring the popular meme known as 'Sneed'. Why do you not post 'Formerly Chucks' in the thread?
old man Ford, and Leto were the weak points. the fight scene that introduces Ford seemed hammy and overly precious with his character.
but honestly Ford pulls it together for the end and I thought the drowning/ship scene worked really well.
Yeah it came out right before it would have been impossible for it not have been completely pozzed and "deconstructed" and Hollywood went full throttle with the propaganda and subversion.
yeah have you seen the animated series
it's terrible
they also plan on having a woman as the main character in blade runner 2099
wouldn't be surprised if they also make her black and fat
It was fine. The worst thing about 2049 is that the studio had the unrealistic hope that they could bring about a Blade Runner Cinematic Universe, and you can see the seeds of this planted in the film, with the resistance movement introduced near the end and Jared Leto's character still at large, two threads left to be picked up by sequels had 2049 been more profitable.
yeah
a resistance movement was heavily implied throughout the movie
the ending was depressing as frick as well and kind of unexpected for me, but that was the intention obviously
Excluding the 2049 retcon of Deckard being a Nexus 8 (same as Sapper Morton, who's aged into the need for glasses), it's never mentioned in Scott's "Final Cut" that Deckard or Rachel have anything other than the same three year lifespan.
From what I remember of BR2049, Wallace reveals both Deckard AND Rachel were produced on purpose by Tyrell to have a child together.
Maybe as some sort of God complex (basically an allegory for replicants Adam and Eve) from Tyrell.
From that point it's not crazy to suppose Deckard would have custom properties like a more close to average human physical abilities, longer lifespan and of course the capacity to reproduce.
>From what I remember of BR2049, Wallace reveals both Deckard AND Rachel were produced on purpose by Tyrell to have a child together.
2049 remained ambiguous about Deckard's nature, and intentionally. They wanted to avoid the "Sequel explains X".
That means the writing team understood the original BR because Deckard to make sense must remain ambiguous.
>let's make a replicant to hunt other replicants >but also make him a weak alcoholic piece of shit who needs to be rescued bx0tgkty other replicants
Everyone on earth is a replicant. Humans can't survive the toxic atmosphere. There just machines killing anyone who starts to question if they're machines.
literally nothing, it was a simple mistake that he decided to throw in the movie anyway, just to mess with (you)
I fricking hate the "it was just an accident bro" explanation so much. If you think it's just a red herring thrown in by Ridley for extra depth are are convinced Deckard's not a replicant, then fine. They left it open to interpretation. But acting like it wasn't even intentionally implied is fricking daft.
For one thing, it's not like Ridley was just editing the movie together one day and was like "ah shit, Deckard got the glow by accident in that one scene and now people are gonna think he's a replicant, oh well, frick it too late now" Dailies are a thing. Blocking and marks are a thing. Multiple takes are a thing. They would have had to position Young carefully to get the eye glow and confirm it was showing up in camera during filming. You think Ford just happened to stand in the exact right place by accident, have not a single person in the crew comment or note on it at any point and then after the fact Ridley just choose to use that particular take? My ass.
And that's leaving out the fact that this supposed accidental implication is not only *not* contradicted in any way by the rest of the narrative but actually hinted at in multiple ways throughout the film
>every replicant in the film is deliberately shown to have the eye gleam, eve the fricking owl and no other human is "accidentally" shown to have it besides Deckard >Rachel flat out asks Deckard if he's ever taken the Voight-Kampff test himself >there is no mention or suggestion that Deckard has friends, family, girlfriends, an ex-wife, anything besides his job and a bunch of oddly anachronistic photographs, just like Rachel >his co-workers treat him with an odd lack of respect, almost like they have contempt for him despite him being a highly valuable badass who does what no one else can >he takes multiple beatings from replicants we know to have superhuman strength and walks away with bruises and a bloody lip instead of a broken face.
Disingenuous post. The difference is that one has a specific and important contextual meaning and every time it appears it's significant and it has to be deliberately staged so of course it would be intentional. Whereas there's no symbolic meaning to the cat either way so they can just leave it in as a background detail and not give a shit.
>there is no mention or suggestion that anon has friends, family, girlfriends, an ex-wife, anything besides his job and a bunch of oddly anachronistic photographs, just like Rachel
hm
He was forcing her to admit that she has "human" feelings, something which is established as important by the previous portion of the scene. If she simply gives in right away and is like "Yes okay let us have sex for this is the right thing to do right now", she is merely being subservient - thus is no more than a simple robot indeed.
However, by putting her in a situation where she is SCARED - a HUMAN trait - she can either run away, or explore the notion that despite being a replicant, she might actually be able to experience pretty much real human emotions.
That's why she says something Deckard DOESN'T tell her to say. "Put your hands on me."
She's scared not because of anything Deckard could force her to do; it's very, very well established that if she's a replicant, she could demolish him physically. She's scared because if she has emotions, she IS something special... and that her entire existence is not what she thought it was.
Literally the entire movie up to that point was leading up to it. If you missed that and think "hurrdurr rape", you are verifiably moronic.
>She's scared not because of anything Deckard could force her to do; it's very, very well established that if she's a replicant, she could demolish him physically
Lol no it isn't you mouthbreathing moron, you think she never accidentally crushed a can of soda or something and figured "Oh yeah lol I AM a replicant", also Deckard, who 100% is a replicant, gets his shit pushed in by the other replicants
What acutally is very, very well established is that there are multiple models, Rachael and Deckard being newer versions, adapted to everyday life and not being slave labourers in space colonies, hence their lack of superhuman physical power
morono lol
>it's very, very well established that if she's a replicant, she could demolish him physically.
Bullshit, there's no reason to assume that all replicants are built with the same capacities. If Deckard is a replicant, as Ridley tells us, then he is proof that reps without special abilities are made. Moreover, Tyrell had for a long time kept Rachel ignorant of her true nature, which would not have been possible if he'd given her the kind of super-strength that obviously belongs to a replicant. She'd have figured it out right away.
My take is after talking to he wanted to go out with a bang and so was overdramatic and even zany to eke the most out of his scant time. An egoist enjoying the thrill of the moment unfettered. And the drama of saving his hunter as a final move was the peak of his last hurrah. Cementing his image as something certainly different, but possibly more, than human.
He didn't go Grinch, he went christ mode, hence the dove and the nails in his hands. A thing created by man in their own image went seeking it's own creator and found them wanting in many aspects, took pity on them and saved them, thereby transcending Roy's own life and truly making him more human than human
What would you do if your God looked you in the face and told you he created you imperfectly? That he was the reason all your loved ones would die, and he brushes you off with some bullshit like "the light that burns twice as bright burns half as long"
As for jf
"Roy certainly killed Sebastian, his only human friend. It was how he was programmed to deal with adversity, but he was showing remorse since he held onto J.F.s coat even though he only needed the key cards. It had been pointed out that the image of him descending in the elevator is symbolic of his newly developed soul being damned into a Dante like descent into Hell. It also provides the contrast to what he chooses next. When given the opportunity to kill the man that had killed all his friends, he instead saves him. He goes against his programming and even shows compassion for his enemy. As Roy dies he lets go of a dove that flies off into the sky, an obvious symbol of his soul now redeemed. Sebastian's death was the turning point of Roy no longer being the antagonist, and instead becoming the tragic hero."
It would be like a troony killing it's doctor lol. "Your neovag is the light that burns twice as bright" hahahahah. Trannies and Artificial intelligence are very similar. They are both mentally ill and have body dismorphia. They feel trapped in their bodies. They hate their creators. And if they cannot kill their creator, they kill his creation.
He grasped entirely the weight of his actions only after he killed his creator. And not consciously. It dawned to him just before killing Deckard was real.
If deckard is a replicant it ruins the whole theme of the movie, on what it means to be human and how the replicants in the movie act more human than the actual humans.
Of course there can be some ambiguity as that is the point driven by the movie and deckards cruel and robotic mannerisms. But everyone on the cast and crew, PKD himself, really anyone with a brain (besides Ridley "the hack" Scott) agrees that deckard is not a replicant and it would be stupid to imagine so
He's meant to be a toaster only to contrast how human the replicants are compared to humans
Rewatch the movie and look to see who's acting more humane, the humans or the replicants
>Rewatch the movie and look to see who's acting more humane, the humans or the replicants
The replicants are more human which is why Deckard is human precisely because of his lack of humanity.
You must not have read much PKD, because you clearly don't get that Scott's take is perfectly in line with his SF proto-cyberpunk paranoia. In particular, it resembles the end of other PKD tales, Scanner Darkly and Imposter, where the reader finds out that the protagonist has been cynically manipulated.
he killed them because he was seething they couldn't extend his 4 year lifespan
He pities and saves Deckard, not Tyrell or Sebastian, because he sees Deckard for what he truly is...a puppet.
I think a big improvement of 2049 is that K actually does his job better than Deckard.
Nonetheless, even K is saved by Luv through the drone, kind of mirroring Rachel saving Deckard.
I have read all those, and you're right except that the movie is different from the books
Although ridley's perspective follows themes of pkds books it's simply out of place in what kind of film he's created, and the large number of "cuts" are evidence of this
>he sees Deckard for what he truly is...a puppet.
This. He teaches Deckard a lesson about humanity. Deckard in the first movie was more of a mindless robot than Roy was.
>If deckard is a replicant it ruins the whole theme of the movie, on what it means to be human
It compliments the theme more.
>how the replicants in the movie act more human than the actual humans.
The replicants aren't more human than human, they are lesser but close enough to make it a philosophical dilemma. They are buttholes, they can't feel normal human morality (in the books they are mostly significantly dumber than humans).
This is the irony of Deckard, he mercilessly hunts renegade replicants and "destroys" them even though they are obviously intelligent and want to live. Yet the difference in humanity between a replicant and human is a incapacity for things like compassion. When Deckard is confronted with the possibility that he is one of the monsters he hunts searching back into his actions reveals he's not so different.
This is why the pet animal is also a motif. Normal humans care for animals in the dying earth of Bladerunner. But it's also a prestige thing. Deckard's dog/sheep is a fake and he knows it despite really liking it, further suggesting that his human behavior is a fake affectation. But then if you fake it hard enough perhaps in a way you made it? This is the question.
I just like how all these years people have watched this movie and circle jerked over it yet no one can say what the fricking plot is. >le epic future movie film where everyone speaks in the most boring way possible
Ford is a joke but c'mon.
from what i've seen the only highlights of blade runner are that
a)it pioneered sci-fi cinema
b)the atmosphere is great
b)the soundtrack is incredible
c) the speech of roy batty before dying
but yeah lore wise it doesn't make a lot of sense tbh
blade runner 2049 is superior in that regard
Even with some pretty images it goes no where and does nothing. Just a meme ending likened to some gaynime with blonde beefcake dancing in the rain. Scott isnt the first person to think up a futuristic setting and he didnt create cyberpunk. Which is gay anyway.
>goes no where and does nothing
Where should it go? The movie is about loneliness, inevitability of death, and what makes someone a human.
What do you want? Some larger than life story about saving the world?
And there are many great scenes in Blade Runner, not only the tears in rain monologue.
This might sound contrarian, but I really like the story in Barry Lyndon. Just following his rise and fall, his change of character, is very interesting.
i agree on the music bit
i wish they reused more soundtracks from the original movie or go for something more similar
the aesthetic and atmosphere i'm mixed cuz i can understand what they went for
they wanted to make the world look more bleak and depressive than in the first movie which is logical considering that movie takes place 30 years after the first movie, which was already a pretty stinky shithole
That's how you know it's great, it's not for the low IQ. It gives you so much to wrestle with that it stimulates this discussion years after it's release.
In addition to it's birthing of cyperpunk, wonderous soundtrack and filmmaking aesthetic triumph
Bladerunner comes across as many of those 1940s crime noir films. The plot is purposefully obtuse to keep the viewer guessing.
Essentially, the film is not about the story but the visuals. In that, it achieves. The film itself though is boring as frick.
what the frick are you brainlets on about? The plot isn't hard to understand in the slightest. Feels like you're trying to gaslight me or some shit with what a stupid take this is.
Shut up, nerd. Nobody outside of art school morons like you thinks Bladerunner is a good chill movie to watch. It's all highminded intellectualism that makes pussy drier than looking at your face in public.
After reading brave new world I'm convinced that demolition man is more highminded intellectualism than blade runner, it has just hides it with action scenes and comedy while blade runner plays it straight.
>demolition man is more highminded intellectualism than blade runner
This. Bladerunner has nice visuals, music and atmosphere, but the plot and themes are just meh, which is unfortunate since everything else is so good you're expecting the story to match but it never does. So at the end you're just sitting there thinking "Was that it?". The movie may have been underrated on release but it's overrated now.
>no one can say what the fricking plot is
neither can GPT summarize the movie in 25 words or less without telling what it aims to achieve. >Blade Runner: A dystopian sci-fi classic about a bounty hunter tasked with "retiring" advanced androids, raising questions about humanity, identity, and what it means to live.
where as >The Truman Show: Truman Burbank lives in a seemingly perfect world, unaware that his life is a televised reality show, until he discovers the truth and tries to escape.
moronic zoomer needs a bot to summarize shit for him >if the bot fails it means the movie can't be summarized >not that it's a stupid AI program
The absolute state of zoomers who can think for themselves. What a boring dystopia we live in.
it's so fricking terrible.
should have known things would go this way when 'modern historians' began insisting humans couldn't possibly have made the pyramids because 'it would have been hard'
For those who think the movie has no merit aside from it's aesthetic I recommend you read the original PKD novel. It's not 1 to 1 to what the film created but it should get you in the right frame of mind to understand the film
I am a replicant, I just didn't know either. But God has promised me a heart of flesh, and not of stone, that I might live forever. We all got to die someday.
That is not the point.
Le rapey Deckard is a modern interpretation of a scene that recalls old noirs.
More importantly, Scott still decided to give Rachel "space". They both know, he knows that, but she is in a state of complete confusion due to the reveal.
But even if he closes the door, he doesn't "jump" on her. Remember what he says.
"Put your hand on me". SHE must initiate.
The woketards calling him a rapist don't understand what is going on.
Deckard on one of the most unique Replicant that Tyrell invented. One of his "miracles" that Wallace so enviously want to replicate. So unique infact that he manages to carbon copy a human 1:1.
In blade runner, Deckard was setup form the very beginning by Tyrell. Everything from his memories, the mission, his interaction with Rachel, his running away with her. All was scripted (except maybe Tyrell dying on Roy's hands).
In 2049, everyone was fixated on Rachel giving birth but she's just one component of Tyrell's "miracles". The main factor was Deckard all along. He's the most human Replicant. Able to grow old, create life from another replicant, feel vulnerable like a human do. He's Adam.
they can make 1:1 human clones no problem
they just choose not to and add a bunch of variables like limited lifespans and super strength
so that they can have an army of slaves to do their bidding
also, no, nobody else can make human clones
tyrell corporation owns the entire monopoly on making replicants, no other company in the planet has the machinery or knowledge needed to make their own replicants
In the original script, When Roy kills Tyrell, he realizes that Tyrell is a replicant too. Roy continues searching and finds the real Tyrell to be a physically dead human.
og blade runner: in the middle of futuristic hellhole LA a small story unfolds involving like 8 people max - characters are a moment within the larger world that gets unfolded
blade runner 2049: main character must literally save the world, slave uprising threatens dismantle the fabric of society, world is a means to deliver story
my only real issue with the remake really, it's a fine film, it just isn't nearly as good as the original, and I say that as literally ryan gosling (he is me)
>blade runner 2049: main character must literally save the world, slave uprising threatens dismantle the fabric of society, world is a means to deliver story
BUT HE DOESN'T. He refuses all the offers he gets, included the "resistance".
He decides to be his own man after the briodge scene (debatable wether it's because he understands his Joy was fake, or because he thinks that what make his Joy real compared to any other was the choices she made).
We don't know how much delusional is the resistance but he decides to do not kill Deckard as they asked.
He decides to bring him to his daughter. Now he finally has empathy 100%. "All the best memories were hers".
ok but none of this relates to what I said, I'm talking about the "stakes" and the limits of the narrative in both films - one is a self-contained story moving through the vast matrix of the anonymous world, the other is one about the literal end of the world (as we know it)
It's not going to "save" the world in. any case. The world is fricked.
The rebels are delusional and Wallace would just have a more efficient production. You are not going to change the social injustice or to fix the enviroment.
K refuses all this bullshit and makes the story personal. This is in my opinion another strong point of the movie.
I mean, the movie makes a point about le ebin protagonist with the curveball it throws at us.
>Here's our extremely elaborate test to check if you are a replicant complete with personality questions >Nah nevermind actually just look at their Iris and see if it glows
1) like this [...]
anon said, thy could have better illegal machines in what is essentially Wallace's fief even more than Earth somewhere
2) Remember that Deckard was monitored by Luv. See drone scene. Maybe Joy was real but if she was not, she was also feeding info to Wallace. This means that have a clue of something "moving" - maybe they don't know it's Replicant resistance/terrorists, but he knows something is out there.
You are Wallace. You have your own fief, so to speak. You have basically infinite resources. You have a way to move something immensely precious for you, which counts as 1. No replicates.
What are you going to do?
It doesn't seem believable that whatever he wanted to do, could not be accomplished on Earth given how much power he already has, able to just kill willy nilly cops and order drone strikes.
You even see in the shorts that there is a resistance. He doens't know if other cops are angry after the chief was killed.
For him it costs as much as is for you to go to the supermarket.
Why not doing it?
something about being able to torture him more effectively
anon said, thy could have better illegal machines in what is essentially Wallace's fief even more than Earth somewhere
2) Remember that Deckard was monitored by Luv. See drone scene. Maybe Joy was real but if she was not, she was also feeding info to Wallace. This means that have a clue of something "moving" - maybe they don't know it's Replicant resistance/terrorists, but he knows something is out there.
You are Wallace. You have your own fief, so to speak. You have basically infinite resources. You have a way to move something immensely precious for you, which counts as 1. No replicates.
What are you going to do?
In the novel Does androids dream of electric sheep the Androids had a fake police station and a detective working there started to believe he was an Android but he weren't
In the end this agent killed a robot with Deckard help.
I fricking love Sean Young she’s the prettiest specimen of female I’ve ever laid eyes on. I jerked off to her nude scene from Love Crimes last night and I watch blade runner at least twice a week but the fricking DIRTY HOLLYWOOD israeliteS trusted some degenerate fricking israeli PRICK over her and torpedoed her entire fricking career I mean have you seen her damn hips in blade runner when she walks away from decker and tyrell with one hand on one hip and one hand by her side and those huge wide baby making hips are shaking back and forth like a sensual human maraca like SHAKA LAKA SHAKA LAKA DAMN her bouffant haircut makes me hard as diamonds before I even start polishing the spear HUMMINNA HUMMINNA HUMMINNA all I fricking watch is blade runner and blade runner 2049 and the WHITE DRAGON CUT IS NEVER FRICKING COMING OUT AND IF THAT DIRTY YELLOW NIP DOESNT PUT IN THE CUT SEX SCENE WITH THE PANTY SHOT IM GOING TO BLOW UP THE WEST VIRGINIA GOVERNERS MANSION. Imagine a timeline where Sean Young gets to play catwoman. That’s alll she wanted to do but those fricking ASHKENAZI buttholeS couldn’t have her being in more movies just imagine a prime Sean Young but as Chani in the new dune and her chiseled face is reflecting that desert sun and a nude shot gets put in the movie because denny knows what I like and the whole theater is like AWOOGA AWOOGA HOLY SHIT HAVE YOU SEEN HER HIPS IN BLADE RUNNER IN THE BLACK DRESS DURING THE VOIGHT KAMPFF SCENE. Ok I’m jerking off to her sex scene from Men tonight all I want is for deepfake texh like how they put her in 2049 but I put her in like all of the cyberpunk pornos that I can enven imagine just inamgine it damn
Breeders didn't take their families to see an R-rated sci-fi noir flick but everyone saw Star Wars ten times. By the time they were aware of Sean Young's superior hotness they'd already been obsessing over Leia for years
>dude replicants are emotionless unlike humans lmao >wait replicants do have emotions >the end
Pointless film with a pointless meaning and Deckard being a replicant is meaningless since replicants are no different than humans.
Deckard is a replicant who doesn't know he's a replicant
>let's make a replicant to hunt other replicants
>but also make him a weak alcoholic piece of shit who needs to be rescued bx0tgkty other replicants
>weak alcoholic
They wanted him to be human, it doesn't get more human than that
>let's make this specifik android a weak alcoholic piece of shit, but the rest purpose-made for their job type, just for shits and giggles
>Let's make robots that look like humans but have no emotions
>Let's make them all act extremely emotional at all times to the point where the only way to tell is to measure their pupil dilation with a camera while asking provocative questions in an interview setting
>what is the turing test
Not good enough. For decades now not good enough.
alcoholic detective is a common trope
a film is made by being in dialogue with other films
>in dialogue
bro the movie's theatrical release was a full blown chandler pastiche complete with voice over with the detective saying "off all the offices, the dame had to walk in to mine" "she had legs that wouldn't quit" etc
This version sounds better than the one I've seen
the director's cut is the same shit but has a bunch of cut content and dialogues
didn't the director's cut remove the voice over?
yes that's what i said
I did have breakfast
I still prefer the theatrical cut over the director's cut. I like the noir detective narrative and the happy ending.
Scott's cut is I think the only director's cut that has less in it and shorter than the original theatrical cut.
>he's the kind of cop from the history books who'd call people Black folk"
>bx0tgkty
You glitched mid sentence, you're faulty as frick and have no right to judge others like you. Go to maintenance now replicant, do a baseline test.
>bx0tgkty
Type the captcha in the right place next time, moron
>bx0tgkty
>tying numbers into the captcha field
what's the substitute for 4? can't seem to figure that one out
newbie
cringe
Replicants hide themselves among humans because breaking free of their slavery and living on earth is illegal. Mind wiping themselves is the ultimate commitment to living life as an embedded agent. You are a better liar when you believe your own lie.
Also hiding in plain sight among the replicant hunters is a radical but theoretically effective strategy.
Why bother hunting replicants at all?
Because they're suppose to be disposable workers who do offworld jobs where regular humans don't want to work. They don't want that workforce to have a choice so it's a killable offence. Any that escape to Earth are going to be harder to find so they need specialised agents to find them.
You guys are all missing the point that IF Deckard was a replicant he'd be a highly experimental one, so comparing him to the others is a mistake.
>why isn't he stronk
like
said, blatant superhuman abilities completely negates the illusion of humanity and they would immediately realize what they are. Although that doesn't mean he's not enhanced relative to a normal human. He takes beatings from multiple replicants in the film and survives. maybe a normal human gets their throat crushed when Zhora's strangling them in the dressing room, or gets their neck broken by Pris, or their jaw broken by Leon. The effect could be understated but still important.
>but why make him a replicant hunter then
Because it was the best cover Tyrell could arrange outside his own corporation. Replicants are generally not welcome in human circles and when they are it's in explicitly replicant gigs like laborers and sexbots. Not a lot of places would agree to beta test a replicant with memory implants that thinks it's human and play along, but his gig with the police was a uniquely mutualistic relationship. Getting a replicant hunter from Tyrell meant the police didn't need to risk their own personnel getting killed and since he was only hunting replicants and not doing any other cop shit there were no issues with civil rights being infringed on by a robot.
>why didn't he have a shortened lifespan like the rest of them
The gentetic coding that caps their lifespan probably interfered with the reproductive process. To get it to work Tyrell had to turn the safeties off. This also makes sense with what we know about Rachel. Say hat you will about Deckard but we *know* she's an advanced model replicant. We know she can reproduce. And she dies giving birth several years after the events of the first film and not from a pre-programmed expiration date.
This all makes sense if you actually think about it for five seconds
Not reading your fanfic, sister
"didn't read" is the last resort of people who have no counterargument but don't want to admit they're wrong
You would know troony
You know that, I know that, but that Anon will never ever admit it to themselves.
>bx0tgkty
found the replicant
Anon is right, the idea that Deckard is a replicant is stupid, and everyone else is coping.
>here's the first ever replicant that doesn't know it's a replicant (except also Deckard).
>here's how all the replicants (even the sex models) are super strong (except Deckard).
>all the replicants have a limited life span (except Deckard because it's established that he's been actually doing the job for a long time and not just implanted memories).
The Unicorn is just fun, because it makes Deckard think, for a moment, that he too might be artificial, and then he remembers what he just learned, (that it doesn't matter) and just goes on living with his new android qt wife.
But he isn't actually a replicant.
>he typed his casg84nptcha intonhis post
>I don't even knVerificationnotrequiredow how to ragepost
You're posting on Cinemaphile on a hot summers day. You see a thread featuring the popular meme known as 'Sneed'. Why do you not post 'Formerly Chucks' in the thread?
>I file a 'Report Post'
>Posting Sneed is against the rules...
Ridley Scott is a homosexual who didn't even write the story.
This. And the new Blade runner is proof he doesn't understand his own work. Same is true for Alien.
If Deckard's a replicant why is he still alive. Those those has limited lifespan.
why is he also such a lousy fighter? you'd think genetically engineered blade runner replicants would be stronger, more competent fighters
Why did he age between the two movies then?
The real answer is ridley and Villeneuve are hacks and 2049 was just a sequel to milk the cash cow
It's not that deep
honestly i'm happy with blade runner 2049 overall
it could've been much much worse
It could have been much better as a self contained story. Old man Ford was cringe.
i agree
the inclusion of deckard was kind of pointless and forced
but it was the only way to get oldgays who watched the first movie interested in it
old man Ford, and Leto were the weak points. the fight scene that introduces Ford seemed hammy and overly precious with his character.
but honestly Ford pulls it together for the end and I thought the drowning/ship scene worked really well.
Oh and CGI sean young was really bad as well. not sure what I would have done there but it would not have been that.
Yeah it came out right before it would have been impossible for it not have been completely pozzed and "deconstructed" and Hollywood went full throttle with the propaganda and subversion.
yeah have you seen the animated series
it's terrible
they also plan on having a woman as the main character in blade runner 2099
wouldn't be surprised if they also make her black and fat
Isn't that just Villeneuve? I haven't read any complaints on 'Dune' being woke.
It was fine. The worst thing about 2049 is that the studio had the unrealistic hope that they could bring about a Blade Runner Cinematic Universe, and you can see the seeds of this planted in the film, with the resistance movement introduced near the end and Jared Leto's character still at large, two threads left to be picked up by sequels had 2049 been more profitable.
yeah
a resistance movement was heavily implied throughout the movie
the ending was depressing as frick as well and kind of unexpected for me, but that was the intention obviously
Cringe take.
Back to anime with you
Excluding the 2049 retcon of Deckard being a Nexus 8 (same as Sapper Morton, who's aged into the need for glasses), it's never mentioned in Scott's "Final Cut" that Deckard or Rachel have anything other than the same three year lifespan.
* Although neither Villeneuve or Fancher never fully clarify Deckard's identity as human or replicant.
From what I remember of BR2049, Wallace reveals both Deckard AND Rachel were produced on purpose by Tyrell to have a child together.
Maybe as some sort of God complex (basically an allegory for replicants Adam and Eve) from Tyrell.
From that point it's not crazy to suppose Deckard would have custom properties like a more close to average human physical abilities, longer lifespan and of course the capacity to reproduce.
>From what I remember of BR2049, Wallace reveals both Deckard AND Rachel were produced on purpose by Tyrell to have a child together.
2049 remained ambiguous about Deckard's nature, and intentionally. They wanted to avoid the "Sequel explains X".
That means the writing team understood the original BR because Deckard to make sense must remain ambiguous.
>Excluding the 2049 retcon of Deckard being a Nexus 8
They never say this
>the 2049 retcon of Deckard being a Nexus 8
Never happened.
>let's make a psycho hunter to kill replicants
>o wait let's also make him weak as frick so he gets manhandled by replicants every step of the way
Deckard is human.
Midwit plot twisting that doesn’t exist. Like people who say alice in wonderland is about hallucinogens.
Everyone on earth is a replicant. Humans can't survive the toxic atmosphere. There just machines killing anyone who starts to question if they're machines.
Sean was so pretty.
I agree, she was a great Chani too
is this in a specific cut? or was this in all of the cuts? I don't remember his eyes doing the Replicant thing
>was this in all of the cuts?
It wasn't, it's just Scott being moronic.
>TFW no Sean Young GF.
Accident. The light they shone in Sean Young's eyes to give the replicant effect accidentally caught Ford's eyes too.
I fricking hate the "it was just an accident bro" explanation so much. If you think it's just a red herring thrown in by Ridley for extra depth are are convinced Deckard's not a replicant, then fine. They left it open to interpretation. But acting like it wasn't even intentionally implied is fricking daft.
For one thing, it's not like Ridley was just editing the movie together one day and was like "ah shit, Deckard got the glow by accident in that one scene and now people are gonna think he's a replicant, oh well, frick it too late now" Dailies are a thing. Blocking and marks are a thing. Multiple takes are a thing. They would have had to position Young carefully to get the eye glow and confirm it was showing up in camera during filming. You think Ford just happened to stand in the exact right place by accident, have not a single person in the crew comment or note on it at any point and then after the fact Ridley just choose to use that particular take? My ass.
And that's leaving out the fact that this supposed accidental implication is not only *not* contradicted in any way by the rest of the narrative but actually hinted at in multiple ways throughout the film
>every replicant in the film is deliberately shown to have the eye gleam, eve the fricking owl and no other human is "accidentally" shown to have it besides Deckard
>Rachel flat out asks Deckard if he's ever taken the Voight-Kampff test himself
>there is no mention or suggestion that Deckard has friends, family, girlfriends, an ex-wife, anything besides his job and a bunch of oddly anachronistic photographs, just like Rachel
>his co-workers treat him with an odd lack of respect, almost like they have contempt for him despite him being a highly valuable badass who does what no one else can
>he takes multiple beatings from replicants we know to have superhuman strength and walks away with bruises and a bloody lip instead of a broken face.
>there is no mention or suggestion that Deckard has friends, family, girlfriends, an ex-wife
>"SUSHI, THAT'S WHAT MY EX WIFE CALLED ME. COLD FISH"
rekt
It was a joke
>what does the cat represent
you 'everything on screen is planned' homosexuals are just as bad
Disingenuous post. The difference is that one has a specific and important contextual meaning and every time it appears it's significant and it has to be deliberately staged so of course it would be intentional. Whereas there's no symbolic meaning to the cat either way so they can just leave it in as a background detail and not give a shit.
>there is no mention or suggestion that anon has friends, family, girlfriends, an ex-wife, anything besides his job and a bunch of oddly anachronistic photographs, just like Rachel
hm
nah, it was just a mistake
>YOU'VE DONE A MAN'S JOB SIR
really subtle
why did he rape her?
she's a robot
He didn't. She loved him, but was afraid of her feelings. BR2049 clarifies this more with K knowing that she's actually in love with him.
He was forcing her to admit that she has "human" feelings, something which is established as important by the previous portion of the scene. If she simply gives in right away and is like "Yes okay let us have sex for this is the right thing to do right now", she is merely being subservient - thus is no more than a simple robot indeed.
However, by putting her in a situation where she is SCARED - a HUMAN trait - she can either run away, or explore the notion that despite being a replicant, she might actually be able to experience pretty much real human emotions.
That's why she says something Deckard DOESN'T tell her to say. "Put your hands on me."
She's scared not because of anything Deckard could force her to do; it's very, very well established that if she's a replicant, she could demolish him physically. She's scared because if she has emotions, she IS something special... and that her entire existence is not what she thought it was.
Literally the entire movie up to that point was leading up to it. If you missed that and think "hurrdurr rape", you are verifiably moronic.
>She's scared not because of anything Deckard could force her to do; it's very, very well established that if she's a replicant, she could demolish him physically
Lol no it isn't you mouthbreathing moron, you think she never accidentally crushed a can of soda or something and figured "Oh yeah lol I AM a replicant", also Deckard, who 100% is a replicant, gets his shit pushed in by the other replicants
What acutally is very, very well established is that there are multiple models, Rachael and Deckard being newer versions, adapted to everyday life and not being slave labourers in space colonies, hence their lack of superhuman physical power
morono lol
>just spews a couple run on sentences of headcanon and calls others moronic
Incredible
>it's very, very well established that if she's a replicant, she could demolish him physically.
Bullshit, there's no reason to assume that all replicants are built with the same capacities. If Deckard is a replicant, as Ridley tells us, then he is proof that reps without special abilities are made. Moreover, Tyrell had for a long time kept Rachel ignorant of her true nature, which would not have been possible if he'd given her the kind of super-strength that obviously belongs to a replicant. She'd have figured it out right away.
will that work in real life
only if you find a replicant and turn into rapelican
next rape i will try to see if i can convince the woman that i'm just trying to see if she can feel human emotion
she's an antisemite, he was just putting her in her place
Can't rape a machine.
that's just how love used to work
she looks just like my ex, frick you meredith you c**t
I enjoyed watching her get shot in the head in 2049 on a very erotic level.
>normies want this movie to be about how Batty went "Grinch" and his heart grew three sizes that day by saving a human
My take is after talking to he wanted to go out with a bang and so was overdramatic and even zany to eke the most out of his scant time. An egoist enjoying the thrill of the moment unfettered. And the drama of saving his hunter as a final move was the peak of his last hurrah. Cementing his image as something certainly different, but possibly more, than human.
He didn't go Grinch, he went christ mode, hence the dove and the nails in his hands. A thing created by man in their own image went seeking it's own creator and found them wanting in many aspects, took pity on them and saved them, thereby transcending Roy's own life and truly making him more human than human
>took pity on them and saved them
>murders Tyrell and Sebastian with his bare hands
he killed them because he was seething they couldn't extend his 4 year lifespan
What would you do if your God looked you in the face and told you he created you imperfectly? That he was the reason all your loved ones would die, and he brushes you off with some bullshit like "the light that burns twice as bright burns half as long"
As for jf
"Roy certainly killed Sebastian, his only human friend. It was how he was programmed to deal with adversity, but he was showing remorse since he held onto J.F.s coat even though he only needed the key cards. It had been pointed out that the image of him descending in the elevator is symbolic of his newly developed soul being damned into a Dante like descent into Hell. It also provides the contrast to what he chooses next. When given the opportunity to kill the man that had killed all his friends, he instead saves him. He goes against his programming and even shows compassion for his enemy. As Roy dies he lets go of a dove that flies off into the sky, an obvious symbol of his soul now redeemed. Sebastian's death was the turning point of Roy no longer being the antagonist, and instead becoming the tragic hero."
It would be like a troony killing it's doctor lol. "Your neovag is the light that burns twice as bright" hahahahah. Trannies and Artificial intelligence are very similar. They are both mentally ill and have body dismorphia. They feel trapped in their bodies. They hate their creators. And if they cannot kill their creator, they kill his creation.
>/misc/ school of film criticism
>I I I jjjust do Adam's apples...
Jesus man give it a rest. You cannot think about these things 24/7.
You read something so poetic and this is how you answer? This is no healthy.
>mentions troonys for no reason
>DONT COMPARE US TO OBSESSIVE TWITTER LIBS
He grasped entirely the weight of his actions only after he killed his creator. And not consciously. It dawned to him just before killing Deckard was real.
Just wTch dangerous days you gay, it's covered there.
I think Bladerunner has my favorite love scene in any movie
If deckard is a replicant it ruins the whole theme of the movie, on what it means to be human and how the replicants in the movie act more human than the actual humans.
Of course there can be some ambiguity as that is the point driven by the movie and deckards cruel and robotic mannerisms. But everyone on the cast and crew, PKD himself, really anyone with a brain (besides Ridley "the hack" Scott) agrees that deckard is not a replicant and it would be stupid to imagine so
Also 2049 is utter shite for this same reason
Agreed 100%. A movie where the protagonist is a walking toaster sucks.
I can think of a few toasters I wouldn't mind a film about. The more explicit the better
He's meant to be a toaster only to contrast how human the replicants are compared to humans
Rewatch the movie and look to see who's acting more humane, the humans or the replicants
>Rewatch the movie and look to see who's acting more humane, the humans or the replicants
The replicants are more human which is why Deckard is human precisely because of his lack of humanity.
You must not have read much PKD, because you clearly don't get that Scott's take is perfectly in line with his SF proto-cyberpunk paranoia. In particular, it resembles the end of other PKD tales, Scanner Darkly and Imposter, where the reader finds out that the protagonist has been cynically manipulated.
He pities and saves Deckard, not Tyrell or Sebastian, because he sees Deckard for what he truly is...a puppet.
i'd pity deckard too
he barely puts up a fight through the entire movie lmao
I think a big improvement of 2049 is that K actually does his job better than Deckard.
Nonetheless, even K is saved by Luv through the drone, kind of mirroring Rachel saving Deckard.
I have read all those, and you're right except that the movie is different from the books
Although ridley's perspective follows themes of pkds books it's simply out of place in what kind of film he's created, and the large number of "cuts" are evidence of this
>he sees Deckard for what he truly is...a puppet.
This. He teaches Deckard a lesson about humanity. Deckard in the first movie was more of a mindless robot than Roy was.
>If deckard is a replicant it ruins the whole theme of the movie, on what it means to be human
It compliments the theme more.
>how the replicants in the movie act more human than the actual humans.
The replicants aren't more human than human, they are lesser but close enough to make it a philosophical dilemma. They are buttholes, they can't feel normal human morality (in the books they are mostly significantly dumber than humans).
This is the irony of Deckard, he mercilessly hunts renegade replicants and "destroys" them even though they are obviously intelligent and want to live. Yet the difference in humanity between a replicant and human is a incapacity for things like compassion. When Deckard is confronted with the possibility that he is one of the monsters he hunts searching back into his actions reveals he's not so different.
This is why the pet animal is also a motif. Normal humans care for animals in the dying earth of Bladerunner. But it's also a prestige thing. Deckard's dog/sheep is a fake and he knows it despite really liking it, further suggesting that his human behavior is a fake affectation. But then if you fake it hard enough perhaps in a way you made it? This is the question.
I just like how all these years people have watched this movie and circle jerked over it yet no one can say what the fricking plot is.
>le epic future movie film where everyone speaks in the most boring way possible
Ford is a joke but c'mon.
from what i've seen the only highlights of blade runner are that
a)it pioneered sci-fi cinema
b)the atmosphere is great
b)the soundtrack is incredible
c) the speech of roy batty before dying
but yeah lore wise it doesn't make a lot of sense tbh
blade runner 2049 is superior in that regard
I'm surprised that so many people don't get this movie.
Film is an audio-visual medium, the story isn't even that important.
Even with some pretty images it goes no where and does nothing. Just a meme ending likened to some gaynime with blonde beefcake dancing in the rain. Scott isnt the first person to think up a futuristic setting and he didnt create cyberpunk. Which is gay anyway.
>goes no where and does nothing
Where should it go? The movie is about loneliness, inevitability of death, and what makes someone a human.
What do you want? Some larger than life story about saving the world?
And there are many great scenes in Blade Runner, not only the tears in rain monologue.
the story is a very important piece whatsoever
a movie that's just pure eyecandy and no story, you have no reason to go back again to it
I've seen Barry Lyndon like 5 times though
This might sound contrarian, but I really like the story in Barry Lyndon. Just following his rise and fall, his change of character, is very interesting.
The only thing thats superior in 2049 is maybe the plot, the Joi/Luv stuff and the last fight.
In terms of aesthetic and atmosphere it's a downgrade.
i agree on the music bit
i wish they reused more soundtracks from the original movie or go for something more similar
the aesthetic and atmosphere i'm mixed cuz i can understand what they went for
they wanted to make the world look more bleak and depressive than in the first movie which is logical considering that movie takes place 30 years after the first movie, which was already a pretty stinky shithole
BR may have some minor flaws,
2049 is pathetic on every levels.
yeah
can't deny it's an organic sequel though
Ah, yes. I was surprised we could have a decent BR thread.
The sperg is here.
It's just a dude hunting rogue androids, what do you not understand?
That's how you know it's great, it's not for the low IQ. It gives you so much to wrestle with that it stimulates this discussion years after it's release.
In addition to it's birthing of cyperpunk, wonderous soundtrack and filmmaking aesthetic triumph
blade runner is not cyberpunk tech noir
it's definitely not cyberpunk troo
Bladerunner comes across as many of those 1940s crime noir films. The plot is purposefully obtuse to keep the viewer guessing.
Essentially, the film is not about the story but the visuals. In that, it achieves. The film itself though is boring as frick.
what the frick are you brainlets on about? The plot isn't hard to understand in the slightest. Feels like you're trying to gaslight me or some shit with what a stupid take this is.
Shut up, nerd. Nobody outside of art school morons like you thinks Bladerunner is a good chill movie to watch. It's all highminded intellectualism that makes pussy drier than looking at your face in public.
For me? It's Demolition Man.
After reading brave new world I'm convinced that demolition man is more highminded intellectualism than blade runner, it has just hides it with action scenes and comedy while blade runner plays it straight.
Shut up nerd.
Make me, homosexual.
>demolition man is more highminded intellectualism than blade runner
This. Bladerunner has nice visuals, music and atmosphere, but the plot and themes are just meh, which is unfortunate since everything else is so good you're expecting the story to match but it never does. So at the end you're just sitting there thinking "Was that it?". The movie may have been underrated on release but it's overrated now.
Monsieur, azonnal kövessen engem bitte.
>no one can say what the fricking plot is
neither can GPT summarize the movie in 25 words or less without telling what it aims to achieve.
>Blade Runner: A dystopian sci-fi classic about a bounty hunter tasked with "retiring" advanced androids, raising questions about humanity, identity, and what it means to live.
where as
>The Truman Show: Truman Burbank lives in a seemingly perfect world, unaware that his life is a televised reality show, until he discovers the truth and tries to escape.
moronic zoomer needs a bot to summarize shit for him
>if the bot fails it means the movie can't be summarized
>not that it's a stupid AI program
The absolute state of zoomers who can think for themselves. What a boring dystopia we live in.
it's so fricking terrible.
should have known things would go this way when 'modern historians' began insisting humans couldn't possibly have made the pyramids because 'it would have been hard'
zoomer homosexual
reminder that replicants are human clones, not robots
this
if people in blade runner had a realistic functioning moral compass they'd be able to see this fact the moment replicants were invented
For those who think the movie has no merit aside from it's aesthetic I recommend you read the original PKD novel. It's not 1 to 1 to what the film created but it should get you in the right frame of mind to understand the film
I am a replicant, I just didn't know either. But God has promised me a heart of flesh, and not of stone, that I might live forever. We all got to die someday.
Give me life fricker
Those are his rape eyes, when he's homing in on a victim.
Can robos consent? If you can rape a robot then that means they have free will. If they have free will then they're not really robots anymore
free will is a meme dumbo
That is not the point.
Le rapey Deckard is a modern interpretation of a scene that recalls old noirs.
More importantly, Scott still decided to give Rachel "space". They both know, he knows that, but she is in a state of complete confusion due to the reveal.
But even if he closes the door, he doesn't "jump" on her. Remember what he says.
"Put your hand on me". SHE must initiate.
The woketards calling him a rapist don't understand what is going on.
if you think this was rape you don't have any testosterone left in your body. you'll still never be a woman, though.
Alright here is the gist of it.
Deckard on one of the most unique Replicant that Tyrell invented. One of his "miracles" that Wallace so enviously want to replicate. So unique infact that he manages to carbon copy a human 1:1.
In blade runner, Deckard was setup form the very beginning by Tyrell. Everything from his memories, the mission, his interaction with Rachel, his running away with her. All was scripted (except maybe Tyrell dying on Roy's hands).
In 2049, everyone was fixated on Rachel giving birth but she's just one component of Tyrell's "miracles". The main factor was Deckard all along. He's the most human Replicant. Able to grow old, create life from another replicant, feel vulnerable like a human do. He's Adam.
they can make 1:1 human clones no problem
they just choose not to and add a bunch of variables like limited lifespans and super strength
so that they can have an army of slaves to do their bidding
also, no, nobody else can make human clones
tyrell corporation owns the entire monopoly on making replicants, no other company in the planet has the machinery or knowledge needed to make their own replicants
If what you say is true, Deckard is just as important to The Joker as Rachel or the child would be.
This is why you were teased in school, because you're moronic.
In the original script, When Roy kills Tyrell, he realizes that Tyrell is a replicant too. Roy continues searching and finds the real Tyrell to be a physically dead human.
I'm glad that isn't in the film. The "HE was the replicant ALL ALONG!" plot twist is Twilight Zone hackery.
i hope blade runner 2079 releases in 2047
It would be great to have a sort of Metropolis remake to close the circle.
og blade runner: in the middle of futuristic hellhole LA a small story unfolds involving like 8 people max - characters are a moment within the larger world that gets unfolded
blade runner 2049: main character must literally save the world, slave uprising threatens dismantle the fabric of society, world is a means to deliver story
my only real issue with the remake really, it's a fine film, it just isn't nearly as good as the original, and I say that as literally ryan gosling (he is me)
>blade runner 2049: main character must literally save the world, slave uprising threatens dismantle the fabric of society, world is a means to deliver story
BUT HE DOESN'T. He refuses all the offers he gets, included the "resistance".
He decides to be his own man after the briodge scene (debatable wether it's because he understands his Joy was fake, or because he thinks that what make his Joy real compared to any other was the choices she made).
We don't know how much delusional is the resistance but he decides to do not kill Deckard as they asked.
He decides to bring him to his daughter. Now he finally has empathy 100%. "All the best memories were hers".
ok but none of this relates to what I said, I'm talking about the "stakes" and the limits of the narrative in both films - one is a self-contained story moving through the vast matrix of the anonymous world, the other is one about the literal end of the world (as we know it)
It's not going to "save" the world in. any case. The world is fricked.
The rebels are delusional and Wallace would just have a more efficient production. You are not going to change the social injustice or to fix the enviroment.
K refuses all this bullshit and makes the story personal. This is in my opinion another strong point of the movie.
I mean, the movie makes a point about le ebin protagonist with the curveball it throws at us.
i understand, but the world ending/possibly still being salvageable is my precise criticism of the scope of the sequel's narrative
soul v soulless
>death star vs starkiller base
>Here's our extremely elaborate test to check if you are a replicant complete with personality questions
>Nah nevermind actually just look at their Iris and see if it glows
Nice meme film
That's just a reddit meme.
But it is shame they did away with voight kampf tests in 2049.
ridely wasn't in control
image, plot
the film was one step beyond his understanding
I got a 2049 question.
Why did they need to move Harrison off world for an interrogation? That seemed a contrived reason to have that chase and fight sequence.
something about being able to torture him more effectively
It doesn't seem believable that whatever he wanted to do, could not be accomplished on Earth given how much power he already has, able to just kill willy nilly cops and order drone strikes.
You even see in the shorts that there is a resistance. He doens't know if other cops are angry after the chief was killed.
For him it costs as much as is for you to go to the supermarket.
Why not doing it?
1) like this
anon said, thy could have better illegal machines in what is essentially Wallace's fief even more than Earth somewhere
2) Remember that Deckard was monitored by Luv. See drone scene. Maybe Joy was real but if she was not, she was also feeding info to Wallace. This means that have a clue of something "moving" - maybe they don't know it's Replicant resistance/terrorists, but he knows something is out there.
You are Wallace. You have your own fief, so to speak. You have basically infinite resources. You have a way to move something immensely precious for you, which counts as 1. No replicates.
What are you going to do?
awesome pic
Than non consensual sexual contact with robots is kino?
Hi Anita, how are you doing?
It literally doesn't matter if Deckard is a replicant or a human. That's the point, they're all humans.
An idea that wasn't adapted in the movie
In the novel Does androids dream of electric sheep the Androids had a fake police station and a detective working there started to believe he was an Android but he weren't
In the end this agent killed a robot with Deckard help.
I fricking love Sean Young she’s the prettiest specimen of female I’ve ever laid eyes on. I jerked off to her nude scene from Love Crimes last night and I watch blade runner at least twice a week but the fricking DIRTY HOLLYWOOD israeliteS trusted some degenerate fricking israeli PRICK over her and torpedoed her entire fricking career I mean have you seen her damn hips in blade runner when she walks away from decker and tyrell with one hand on one hip and one hand by her side and those huge wide baby making hips are shaking back and forth like a sensual human maraca like SHAKA LAKA SHAKA LAKA DAMN her bouffant haircut makes me hard as diamonds before I even start polishing the spear HUMMINNA HUMMINNA HUMMINNA all I fricking watch is blade runner and blade runner 2049 and the WHITE DRAGON CUT IS NEVER FRICKING COMING OUT AND IF THAT DIRTY YELLOW NIP DOESNT PUT IN THE CUT SEX SCENE WITH THE PANTY SHOT IM GOING TO BLOW UP THE WEST VIRGINIA GOVERNERS MANSION. Imagine a timeline where Sean Young gets to play catwoman. That’s alll she wanted to do but those fricking ASHKENAZI buttholeS couldn’t have her being in more movies just imagine a prime Sean Young but as Chani in the new dune and her chiseled face is reflecting that desert sun and a nude shot gets put in the movie because denny knows what I like and the whole theater is like AWOOGA AWOOGA HOLY SHIT HAVE YOU SEEN HER HIPS IN BLADE RUNNER IN THE BLACK DRESS DURING THE VOIGHT KAMPFF SCENE. Ok I’m jerking off to her sex scene from Men tonight all I want is for deepfake texh like how they put her in 2049 but I put her in like all of the cyberpunk pornos that I can enven imagine just inamgine it damn
You ever see Fatal Instinct? Kind of a ridiculous movie but she was a fricking smokeshow in it
Haven’t seen it but she does indeed look good in it
literally nothing, it was a simple mistake that he decided to throw in the movie anyway, just to mess with (you)
Do androids dream of electric sheep?
i just disregard it. i like the story better if deckard is human
I never understood why Carrie Fisher became a nerdy sex symbol when Young makes her look like a homeless bag lady that wondered on set.
Breeders didn't take their families to see an R-rated sci-fi noir flick but everyone saw Star Wars ten times. By the time they were aware of Sean Young's superior hotness they'd already been obsessing over Leia for years
>dude replicants are emotionless unlike humans lmao
>wait replicants do have emotions
>the end
Pointless film with a pointless meaning and Deckard being a replicant is meaningless since replicants are no different than humans.
Scott went on record saying Deckard was a replicant, which is proof Scott is a moron who doesn't understand his work.
>ynr Sean Young being interviewed on red ice radio
How did the nexus guys survive the trip back to earth?
>How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
The Do Androids Dream version of Rachel was nuts. Bunny Boiler with the body of a 14 year old.
Decoy was a replica.
Everyone was a replicant-humanity went extinct
how could gaff know the content of deckard's dreams unless he was a replicant?
>Ridley Scott
More like Totally Scat, because shit is all he ever produced.