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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Grog

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    weevils

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      ship's biscuit

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Naval rations came out to about 4,000 calories a day of salted meat, peas, and hard tack.
    Plus a quart of rum a day, diluted in grog.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      The people that built the pyramids lived off of a gallon of beer a day. What a life.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        If they were anything like modern builders they spant half the day “on break”

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's where we get the word 'cash'.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        the whole 'they drank beer all day because water was dirty thing' i just never believe. its from the same morons who claim that everyone was dumping their shit all over the city streets and everyone died by age 40. guess how fricking useless your slaves would be if they malnourished, yet beer bellied idiots on the verge of collapse 24/7? they would have built frick all.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah they obviously drank fresh water when available, the small beers were a safety practice for when fresh water wasn’t available. Also when it comes to the workers who built the pyramids, basically none of them were actually slaves. They were Egyptian volunteers who viewed building a pyramid almost like a civil service/religious practice due to how the culture viewed the pharaoh and death in general. They were compensated for this with a place to live, grain, and of course beer.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          They weren't downing 9% triple hopped IPAs.

          It was small beer, like had maybe 2-3% alcohol just because of imperfect brewing methods. Enough for the brewing process to make it safer to drink than regular water at the time, but not enough to get you drunk unless you were fricking drinking like 2 gallons of the stuff.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah people would literally go around buying shit from everybody to sell outside the city as fertilizer. They would also buy urine for the ammonia

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          ancient beer is supposedly nothing like the stuff people brew today. There was an interesting documentary (no I will not search it for you I am too tired) where a guy tries to recreat ancient Sumerian beer from the oldest beer recipe. It's basically liquid bread.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            it was also extremely low alcohol content. basically only high enough to kill bacteria. it makes sense if people drank it in places where there wasn't great fresh water available that they wouldn't want it to be high alcohol and get everyone wasted whenever they were thirsty

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >everyone died by age 40
          This one is a common misconception even among people who should know better.
          It's simply a statistical average, a single number representing something more complicated than a single number can express.
          The average is heavily biased by infant / youth deaths. It's not really that most people died off at 35 or so, it just averages out to that, per birth. Life expectancy for those who reached adulthood was much longer than that (not quite as high as today's, but for healthy/wealthy people 70s were not unusual at all.).

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          grains and yeast is nutritious, ancient peoples would sometimes drink thick beers that are nutritionally similar to bread

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        DRUK

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Also you generally pooled your resources with your mess mates and purchase fresh food like fruit, fish, and sea turtles

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      And lemon or lime juice

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >4000 calories
      What the frick, really? That's a ton of food.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        It was a ton of work too

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's a frick ton of work.
        Although British sailors were known to be a but paunchy, especially Officers who could afford every better grub.
        Stephan is always on Aubreys case about his weight.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Stephan is always on Aubreys case about his weight
          Which I think is mentioned as around 15 stone, which would be 210 lbs.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Have you tried swabbing the deck of a first rate on anything less?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          yes, and it wasn't long before cannon balls were being rolled along the deck at night

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        That’s about the same amount of calories that armies give to lazy ZOG soldiers of today sitting on there army barracks and drinking all day and I doubt a sailor does a quarter of the work nowadays than a sailor in the age sail did

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          How is this fat frick allowed to walk around like this? How could he have gotten that fat after joining?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Modern research has shown that the sailor's diet during the mid-eighteenth century contained nearly twice as many calories per day than was available to men on shore or in the British Army. The single largest contributor of calories was beer, of which the Victualling Board purchased sufficient quantity that each sailor could consume a ration of one gallon per day.

        GALLON
        OF
        BEER
        A
        DAY

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victualling_Commissioners

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Wonder how many guys in that era died because their livers or kidneys gave out.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            None, they were tough back then and didn't have micro plastics destroying their microbiology

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah that's why every fifth frick you read about had shit like gout or cirrhosis.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Most of it was watered down, they mostly needed the alcohol to disinfect their drinking water.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            You sweat it out

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Sign me up to the British Navy then, I don't care where the ship's going

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's the Royal Navy, not the British Navy. Also you can only join if you're a black teenage girl who knows how to fix a Type 45 destroyer's SAMPSON radar because she can fix a skateboard.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          It was almost certainly some form of ‘small beer’ which had a much lower alcohol content than our ‘drink to get drunk’ beer. It was done to keep the drinking water safe. Small beer alcohol % ranged from 0.5-2.8%

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            didn't they start making IPA because the beer wouldn't last on a long voyage?

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              There’s some debate around that, and even if that is true, that would be for beer that was to be sold in India and not the beer they drank on the way there. Also some people think they started brewing IPA because it was more palatable in the hot humid climate than the dark porters that were popular at the time.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Higher hops and alcohol content helped preserve it in hotter climates, like India.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            This, people use the historically people drank people & wine all the time excuse to justify being alcoholics when the truth is it has much much less alcohol than even the weakest alcoholic beverage of today

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >It was done to keep the drinking water safe.
            This is a meme as well. That alcohol content does nothing to help sterilization, and it would get as moldy as the barrels of plain fresh drinking water they had on board
            The truth is people just liked the taste of it. It provided quick energy in the form of simple carbs, and it was something else to drink besides water or wine. It was essentially the coca cola of the time

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              now that I think about it, how the frick didn't the fresh water turn completely stale or worse in the wooden barrels they used? was it lined with something or?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                read a book that said they would let the water 'settle' and that eventually whatever bacteria would kill all the other ones and that it would get better after that

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                It did, you underestimate what kind of disgusting water (from our perspective) people considered (and in some place still consider) potable. The people drinking pic related might be full of worms and possibly heavy metals - but they don't projectile vomit like you would due to being acclimated to it from birth: their gut-flora is essentially completely different from yours.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        4000 calories a day wasn't uncommon for physical laborers. English peasants eat like 2lbs of bread a day with about a liter of ale daily. that's close to 3000 calories a day.

        you're walking most place and working, you kind of need the energy. carbs are bad today because nobody works like that anymore

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          honestly sounds great. get a haversack of bread, cheese, and butter and work in the fields all day, maybe walk into town to do some shit.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Buttfricking is hard work

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        smallish guys need 2000kcal just to exist. so they used about 2000kcal for manual labour - that's 8 hours of medium intensity work.

        i worked as a farm hand for a few summers, seen rail thin guys eat at least 5000kcal a day. mostly carbs and greasy meat, salads were straight out - if you try to eat that many calories with low calorie density food - you'll be bloated as frick all day. the beer thing also makes sense - if you have to drink 10 liters of liquids a day because you're sweating so much all day that you regularly have to take off your boots to pour out the sweat - drinking just water makes you want to puke and your heart goes all fluttery. coke/beer/lemonade go down far easier.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >smallish guys need 2000kcal just to exist
          This fricking meme again. The 2k/2.5k calorie maintenance was arrived at when people actually walked places and weren't sat in front of computer screens or TVs all day every day. The average American male can get away with like 1,600-1,700 calories unless he works manual labour or doesn't drive.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >nooo it's not 2000, it's 1700.
            by "just to exist" i include stuff like doing your laundry, walking around, goofing around with your mates, basic thermo-regulation during a windy watch, etc. in other words - everything not related to work duties. let's see if you have a clue about what you're talking about: what is the power density of human fat?

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >by "just to exist" i include stuff that's clearly well above just existing

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                i recorded about 600 gram weight loss per day when not eating which should be about 2000 kcal. this was after the initial water weight came down. mostly spent sitting down.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >verb: exist; 1) have objective reality or being. 2) live, especially under adverse conditions.
                >"thermo-regulation, eating, going for a shit, grooming are all not part of living"
                okay.

                i know you're some autist who lives for debunking others over semantic bullshit to show off how smart you are on an anonymous forum, but you picked the wrong guy: i've been a Cinemaphile autist for longer than you've been alive. ask me any question about nutrition and in turn i'll ask you one. so again: what is the power density of human fat? be aware though, it's a bit of a trick question.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Grooming isn't part of living. Nor are going for a walk or goofing around with your mates. The latter two are activities in which a lot of people don't engage. I don't think you appreciate just how sedentary people have become.
                I'm not interested in entering into this weird Q&A session you're trying to push while simultaneously accusing ME of being the autist who just wants to come off smart. Classic projection. Go back to Cinemaphile with your received misinformation and Reddit spacing, pal.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Grooming isn't part of living.
                >noun: living; he pursuit of a lifestyle of a specified type.
                >adjective: alive.
                >alive: continuing in existence or use.
                you're confusing living for maintaining homeostasis (a subset of the larger set of "being alive" which in turn is a subset of "living" which in turn is a subset of "existing.")

                >I don't think you appreciate
                what 21st century office drones do on average is irrelevant to 18th century sailors.

                >received misinformation
                i didn't get my knowledge about nutrition on Cinemaphile.

                >Reddit spacing
                hello newfriend.

                >accusing ME of being the autist who just wants to come off smart. Classic projection.
                still haven't gotten my point? i'm answering you with the same pedantic snobbery you started when you went all "achshually- it's 1800, not 2000 calories." you knew what i meant, you didn't offer any new information, the difference is pedantic in the context being discussed even if you were right: oh, they on average worked 8.5hours instead of 8, wow.

                funny thing is: i actually wanted to write "basal metabolic rate+basic activities and needs = 2000kcal. maybe point out that while people tended to be smaller then - doing basic stuff was more labour intensive so it evens out. maybe add an equation or two. but then i thought - nah i'm being too autistic, 'exist' is catch-all for that."

                >this weird Q&A session
                i accept your concession that you haven't a clue what the frick you're talking about. the answer is: πW.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's a fairly small amount of food.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          For an average sized person I'd say

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >half of it eaten by weevils

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        It was mostly shit food. Bread, half rotten overly salted meat, mouldy cheese, and a bunch of disgusting lead filled beer. Their guts must have been in constant pain and we know for a fact they suffered severe dietary diseases like scurvy. It wasn't the comfy Disney musical people would have you believe. There's a reason why most sailors had to be press ganged aka legally kidnapped by the government into service.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Cope harder homosexual, the food was perfectly fine if you weren't a squealing homosexual such as yourself

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          You're about a hundred years off, by the time of the Napoleonic wars the Brits had gotten pretty good at making sure that their sailors had a healthy diet because the alternative was having a bunch of sick and dying sailors fight their wars. They discovered that eating citrus fruit prevented scurvy by about 1750, so at that point they started making changes to their sailors diets.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Americans will literally call brits "limeys" rather than eat their greens.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Youve never worked a real job a day in your life and it shows. Next time you're at a gym find the rowing machine and try to do it for more than 10 minutes. Then imagine doing harder things like that for 12 hours a day.

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hard tack

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tribal island girl dicky

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    WHICH IT IS SOUSED HOG'S FACE

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      where does one acquire a soused hog's face?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        US butchers usually cut them in half lenghtwise.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          but will they sous it for me? I don't know how to sous a hogs face. seems like the type of thing you want a real chef to prepare.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        A pub in rural Ireland, just before closing time.

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    aphids

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    the lesser of two weevils

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    There was some kind of giant tortoise that was great because you could just take a bunch and stack them up in your ship, giving them a little food or whatever and when you were ready just cut them open and get a few gallons of cleanish freshwater from their organs. They probably ate it too.

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Weevils

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    South East Asian pussy

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fresh fish

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Trouts.

  14. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    leather

  15. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Oranges

  16. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    you ever been on a boat or just on the beach all day? it makes you fricking hungry as hell for some reason

  17. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    the food in the movie looks so good

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        WTF

  18. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    They ate The Poor Sailor's Feast

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Orange Fool's Feast

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous
      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I've never heard anyone explain why this was bad, other than out of touch libtards who don't realize most people eat more than localvore vegan avocado toast.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          HE DISRESPECTED THE HONORED GUESTS CHUD

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          the government was shut down and couldn't cater the event so trump spent 6k on fast food
          the white house she be a more formal place, like don't stick a cigar tube up an intern's pussy kinda place

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I forget the context, but imho it's just a bit trashy but honestly not that big of a deal.
          That photo of trump is one of few humanizing moments I recall of him.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          it's not bad. eating stuff that's loaded with carbs, salt and saturated fat is what every feast is about. it's not a normal, everyday meal. it's meant to be an extravagant treat. no difference between burgers and fires or venison with deglaze sauce served with poached potatoes or something.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            It was for college football players. They don't give a shit about gourmet french cuisine, they just want to chow and meet the president. See

            HE DISRESPECTED THE HONORED GUESTS CHUD

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              precisely my point: give people what they want, not some fancy shit everyone has to pretend to like. i can't believe people thought he was cringe for doing this.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Usually it's a more high class affair prepared by the White House cooks, who are government employees, and this was while the government was shut down because the Senate hadn't reached an agreement on the next budget, so they were out on furlough.
          But when you see the pictures of the guys that went there, you can tell they didn't mind in the slightest, and were actually fricking stoked.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          it's even worse now, because the libs forgot this was because of the government shutdown.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          let me guess, your family just have a mcdelivery for thanksgiving too right?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      He looks frustrated.

  19. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Catering crew probably knocked up something tasty for those posing pedophiles.

  20. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    spanish pussy

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is that nutritious?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's nourishing for the spirit.

  21. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ass

  22. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I've beaten you, Acheron. Now I'm the master and commander
    Anyone else get chills when Russell C. delivered this line?

  23. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    listening to the audiobooks now

  24. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Maggoty bread for three stinking days

  25. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Besides what the rest of the thread has mentioned, they kept some animals on board- sheep and chickens especially.
    You could keep them penned up and fed, and slaughter them when you needed fresh meat, and the hens would lay eggs. I expect the larger ships could even keep a cow or two, especially a Warship that doesn't need to worry about a large cargo hold.

  26. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    fish

  27. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    did he deserve it?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      navalised autism incarnated
      Certainly better than Fletcher and his gang of homicidial rapists.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      No, but Polynesian pussy is just too good when you've been at sea for months with a bunch of smelly anglos

  28. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    This movie is the worst red flag ever. You just know if a guy likes it they are a chud

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      what the hell does that even mean?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      All sailing is gay coded.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >chud
      do you really want to keep using this word?

  29. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    seamen

  30. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    cum

  31. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hello, this is whaling ship
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    Bussy, bussy, I need that bussy

    I eat the bussy
    I beat the bussy
    I pray to the bussy
    I'm gay for the bussy
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    Now give me the bussy
    No cash, no credit
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    I'm on that prowl for bussy
    I need the bussy
    I feed the bussy
    I keep the bussy
    I read the bussy
    I clean the bussy
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    I need the bussy

  32. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    hard tack, salted/cured pork, oatmeal, alcohol. Supplemented with fish and small game.

    any other questions, peasant?

  33. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hardtack, salted pork, rum with vitamin c added.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >rum with vitamin c added.
      Be british
      >Cure scurvy by accident
      >Doctor comes along to prove that you cured scurvy and show you how
      >Deny and shame him for being a quack

      what did the navy mean by this?

  34. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bussy

  35. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Chilean sea ass

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