Fricking a man was a huge taboo, it was fricking a boy that was not taboo in some Greek culture influenced parts of Roman society, but those that didn't like the Greek influence didn't like boy-fricking either.
Because performing oral makes you the sub. Fricking a trap means you're still in the dominant position, that is the one doing the fricking. Never perform oral on a woman if you want her to respect you.
Because it would have been absolutely disgusting, akin to a scat fetish today. Eating pussy in roman times wasn't licking a relatively clean, freshly bathed pussy, it was licking something hairy, with a months worth of sweat and grool trapped in that hair, where the only bathing it had received was a quick soak in dirty lake water once every few weeks. The taboo was because anyone who would actually do it under those conditions was probably diseased and a psychopath.
I didn't say they didn't bathe, but they didn't bathe as often as we did, and it certainly wasn't the quality of bathing that you expect when you hear bathing today. They didn't have running hot water and scented soaps and an understanding of hygiene in medieval Europe, and you're a colossal moron if you think they did. How did they heat the water, their electric water heater in their fricking hut?
>They didn't have running hot water and scented soaps and an understanding of hygiene in medieval Europe
But we're talking about Rome. Where heated baths were a huge part of city life.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocaust
Now, consider that sometimes when you think you're being clever you're in fact trumpeting your own ignorance. Be less condescending next time you little prick.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Now, consider that sometimes when you think you're being clever you're in fact trumpeting your own ignorance. Be less condescending next time you little prick.
Good advice for you, dumbass, a fire heated pool of shared murky water isn't exactly the same as having a functional hot water shower in the home. Go find a local lake and take a quick, soapless dip in it once every two or three weeks, and then tell me how good you smell, because that's functionally what we're talking about.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>once every two or three weeks
Are you baiting or are you actually this moronic. I hope you are baiting.
>but they didn't bathe as often as we did
They did though. Patricians bathed repeatedly through the day, rest bathed at least once a day be at home or - more often - in public baths, which were pretty much the social basis of the whole Roman society. Sure, it was no shower with shower gel and shit, but they had whole lot of time on their hands. And once again, Rome had running water. Just stop talking about shit you have no knowledge about, thats literally all it takes for you to not look like a moron.
And no, not even middle ages weren't as bad as you think they were. Also (among other things) because of the baths, which survived fall of the Rome.
You moronic? Do you think these people had alien bodies that didn't get irritated when dirty? Roman baths and running water was one of their primary achievements, they cleaned themselves a lot. People like you that continue to spout this shit are beyond stupid, it takes a simple understanding of human nature and the most basic knowledge of the Romans.
Fricking a man was a huge taboo, it was fricking a boy that was not taboo in some Greek culture influenced parts of Roman society, but those that didn't like the Greek influence didn't like boy-fricking either.
The Romans and the Greeks had laws that punished homosexual acts, fricking someone of the same sex was seen as immoral and disgusting. Sparta had the laws of Lycurgus, Athens had Solon's laws and the Roman senate passed Lex Scantina de stupro cum masculo around 149BC during Rome's steady moral decline.
Homosexuals were mocked, abused and ridiculed by the Greeks. Q. Fabius Maximus Servilianus put his own son to death for homosexuality, the act of homosexuality itself. Homosexual behaviour was seen as such a disgraceful and dishonourable act that the consul would rather execute his own son than to have to his family bear this disgrace.
Crete was the only part of Greece where homosexuality was ever permitted by law, the natives of Crete were of unknown ethnic origin and only ruled by the Mycenaean Greeks.
Please stop spreading these bullshit lies, homosexuality has never been tolerated in a healthy society. Only during Rome's decline did such perversions as homosexuality, anal and oral sex became tolerated and to some extent popular like today.
>Lex Scantina de stupro cum masculo
That wasn't against homosexualry per se, it was a law to protect freeborn male adolescents from getting molested.
Rest of your post is similar shit quality. And considering Caesar himself fricked men (and got fricked) repeatedly throughout his life (beyond fricking small army of women himself), or the fact that old Latin didn't even had a word for a homosexual per se, I think you should stop pushing your headcanon into history.
Great argument, you illiterate /misc/Black person subhuman.
Imagine having views so shit you can't even say one sentence without an obvious lie. This is why you only attract brainlets.
>b-but Caesar was based, /misc/ told me
kys brainlet
2 years ago
Anonymous
You're the only brainlet here. >everybody bummed each other before heckin a*rahamists ruined everything >i know cause my homosexual professors told me so
Homo.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>le strawman
Only homosexual here is you. They simply seen it differently than modern society 2000+ years later. Who would have thought. And yeah, contemporary Roman sources suddenly turn into 21. century leftist homosexual academics when it doesnt fit your homosexual modernist worldview, you monumental moron.
>Having spent a fortune of 100 million sestertii on his kitchen, spent all the gifts he had received from the Imperial court, and thus swallowed up his income in lavish hospitality, Apicius found that he had only 10 million sestertii left. Afraid of dying in relative poverty, he poisoned himself.
What the frick was his problem?
>4 sestertii is 1 denarius >100,000,000 sestertii = 25,000,000 denarii >The average Roman soldier receives 225 denarii a year by the time of Gaius Marius
Yep. In the second century, the emperor's of the Nerva-Antonine dynasty personally owned much of North-Africa and Egypt was their personal holding. Imagine the wealth.
Yeah no shit, there is a reason why 90% of royal houses were deposed or liquidated. The last tsar literally owned all the vodka production in Russia when he died.
An increasingly bigger ammount of plebs were also unemployed because of an abundance of slave labour from conquests, so they literally sat on their asses, got food gibs from the government and spent their days watching gladiator fights and shitposting on the public latrines. Rome was literally a NEET empire
You have to remember that Ancient Rome had a pre-industrial economy, so it's not fair to compare it to "today's money" in any sense. Labor would have been much cheaper relative to consumer goods, which, without factories or mass transportation, would have been handmade by artisans and very expensive.
Just 100 years ago, it was big news when Henry Ford doubled the wages of his factory workers to $5 a day, which is a little less than $150 adjusted for inflation. That's for 10 hours of work, in an industrialized economy. I wouldn't be surprised if the average Roman could buy $10 or less worth of goods with a day's work. This wouldn't be a problem though; most people worked as farmers and could produce their own food. They had no utility bills, no rent, only taxes.
>The average age was 78 >In a country where the average age was actually 28 for plebs and 32 for soldiers, who together represent the majority of the Roman population throughout history >Even for senators the average age never exceeds 58
this shit is such a misnomer. Infant mortality is the only real difference in life expectancy between modern and historical people. This dumb idea that everybody died at 40 is from people who can't think about it for more than five seconds. There were tons of people in their 70s and 80s all throughout history, everywhere.
Rome in particular venerated the elderly. The Senate was basically like the US Senate is today: filled to the brim with half-senile 80-year-olds who should retire.
Yeah but even setting aside infant mortality it still doesn’t make you magically correct that a bunch of people lived to that age like they do today. And given your acute moronation I’m not surprised you somehow still managed to loop it all back around to US politics.
>Ignores 'average' part of life expectancy
The average has always been low prior to the hygiene movement. People have been dying constantly of smallpox, cholera and dysentery from human feces in the drinking water, and of course, war and pillaging. The average person died young until post-1850s life, and infant mortality has only made for an even bleaker metric.
There have always been people who have lived into their 70s and 80s but those people are not the average. The majority of people, in the majority of places, at the majority of times, have died of hunger, disease or conflict in the teens or twenties if they survive to adulthood at all.
>The majority of people, in the majority of places, at the majority of times, have died of hunger, disease or conflict in the teens or twenties if they survive to adulthood at all.
Not him, but this is just patently false. Even during late middle ages when the issues you mention were really pressing (ancient Rome was very different, not to mention Greece) it wasn't nowhere near bad. I hate when people who clearly studied history last time in elementary talk about it. Truth is is that after removing infant mortality, general life expectancy wasn't that much lower from today. It was still lower, but not really much. Ie.: if you made it past childhood, you were usually alright.
Don't forget that Rome had very advanced plumbing, running water, fairly high hygiene standards, public trash removal services and other things that were mostly lost until 19th century.
Frick, not even middle ages weren't as dirty as you probably think.
>the average age was 78 even 2,000 years ago
Fricking kek no it wasn’t. Who fed you that information to regurgitate blindly like a moron, or did you come up with that horseshit all on your own?
It's not even that, it started because fishermen salted and preserved their fish with olive oil and had no choice but to try and sell it. A new fad started and then the elite adopted rotten fish sauce.
>It's similar to worcestershire sauce or SE Asian fish sauce
The garum I have is made using texts and chemical analysis of a garum factory buried when Vesuvius blew and it is NOTHING like either of those sauces.
Same, but mine is based on analysis of some sealed garum amphorae they found in Spain. It tastes like a really light worcestershire sauce to me. It's not exactly the same and garum has its own flavor, but it's the closest comparable thing.
I've had that kind as well and I believe the Spanish stuff uses much lighter fish (sardines) which might be where you're getting the Worcestershire from in it since that also uses sardines.
Best I ever had was a batch I made myself using mackerel I caught. It was flat out the best flavored but my neighbors despised me while it fermented and I had a consistent aura of sea birds until it was done.
I mix some in all the pasta I make and everyone raves about how good my pasta is but I almost never tell them my secret is fermented fish gut sauce.
>The garum I have is made using texts and chemical analysis of a garum factory buried when Vesuvius blew
Same, but mine is based on analysis of some sealed garum amphorae they found in Spain. It tastes like a really light worcestershire sauce to me. It's not exactly the same and garum has its own flavor, but it's the closest comparable thing.
>mine is based on analysis of some sealed garum amphorae they found in Spain
Will you huge giant nerds post the sauce on your sauce?
I've made my way through every Apicius recipe that isn't just super obscure (flamingo tongues, etc) and Romans ate pretty good.
I actually do some of his wild game recipes fairly often now. I had a Cinemaphile thread a while back about a stag recipe and it's absolutely fantastic.
This show is bad outside of scenes featuring Mark Anthony, Caesar, and Brutus.
I kinda want to make a video essay shitting on this show, I'm so sick of people praising it for all the five good scenes it has, most of the show is wacky Pullo shit or cringe sex.
She was, it was Augstus's prime motivation to exterminate prostitutes in his newly established empire. His great grand daughter would become the biggest bawd in history
She was, it was Augstus's prime motivation to exterminate prostitutes in his newly established empire. His great grand daughter would become the biggest bawd in history
Augustus mother was NOTHING like the mother in the show you fricking moron. The character is the polar opposite of all reports of her.
Pretty much all contemporary and modern sources agree that irl Atia was pretty much the opposite of how she was in the show. I loved her character, she was great on TV, but irl she was polar opposite. Augustus got his chastity boner and moral reforms from mommy, not because mommy was degenerate.
We see the mother has a bush, no idea if we see daughter's, but realism wise a bush is guaranteed. Then combine it with once a month public bathing in murky water, and that hair trapping anything that comes out of their veganas i.e. any veganal lubricant, and the smell would have been overpowering. People who think they'd frick Atia here would actually start gagging the second she took her pants off. Maybe even before, if she had an open air dress or something. There's a reason women have always been considered unclean, natural pussy is extremely off putting.
you think a wealthy roman noblewoman couldnt take the time or afford to clean herself and shave? keeping appearances is literally the most important thing in higher circles of society
even the average roman was very clean by pre-modern standards, public baths were well maintained places and the center of many cities and communities, they didnt wash with eachothers filth as they had clever plumbing and engineering systems to keep everything working and fresh
>public bathing in murky water
We literally see her bathing in private. Wealthy houses had their own taps into aqueduct supplies to the city, their water was actually very clean and constantly circulated. Pusy is also self-cleaning in the same way it's self-lubricating. That's not a cope, that's simply the way that it worked for a very long time in human history. Men weren't repulsed then, they wouldn't be repulsed now.
>We literally see her bathing in private
And where did that water come from? How often is it changed? We see her "bathing in private" in murky water that her entire family has been bathing in for probably a month or more.
>pussy is self cleaning
Thanks for outing yourself as a virgin. In real life, even WITH modern hygiene, pussy reaks, that's with bathing in actual clean water with actual soap, shaving, etc. Yes, I'm sure Roman/ancient men were able to build up a tolerance to it and just become noseblind, but if anyone in this thread tried to lay with a Roman woman I'm not kidding when I say you'd literally vomit. You have no idea what pussy smells like, but I promise it isn't cinnamon rolls.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>And where did that water come from? How often is it changed?
I literally just said where it comes from and how often it's changed, you illiterate frick. Did you read the first few words and frantically write up a seething reply? >Thanks for outing yourself as a virgin. In real life, even WITH modern hygiene, pussy reaks, that's with bathing in actual clean water with actual soap, shaving, etc.
I'm not gonna bother listing all the ways you're wrong about that, but I will say one thing: soap and perfumes have been around pretty much since the dawn of civilization. People love adorning themselves with scents and ridding themselves of their natural scents, it's hardcoded into their brains. You're fricking moronic if you think you'd actually vomit from the smell of a highborn noble woman's pussy at any point in human history, but then again you're clearly such a flaming homosexual I almost wouldn't be surprised.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Aquaduct from where? Dirty lake water, dirty mountain water, it is NOT replenished regularly. You're full of shit because you'd rather maintain your fantasy of eating medieval Roman pussy than just being correct and sensible. Civilization didn't spring out fully formed on day one, we had to work at it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Listen to the other anon who told you to stop posting. With every post you are making it worse and worse, you dumbass.
2 years ago
Anonymous
What's actually happening is that with every post I'm highlighting that you don't have an argument or evidence, and are limited to just posting "hurr dumbass hurr" over and over again without cause, hoping it'll disguise your total lack of argument from onlookers.
don't go to modern water processing facilities
Why not? Because I'll see one of the many things that we have that Romans didn't, making our bathing far more effective than their dips in dirty water?
>once every two or three weeks
Are you baiting or are you actually this moronic. I hope you are baiting.
Romans didn't bathe nearly as often as we do because they were worried about opening the pores to sickness. Hell, people here on Cinemaphile probably don't even bathe every day half the time and it's 2022. What exactly do you find so hard to understand? Stop posting "hurr dumbass hurr" and make an actual point like a big boy, use your words.
2 years ago
Anonymous
"Clean" springs i.e. fricking outdoor water, unpurified, unprocessed, "inspected" by a physician that didn't even know what a germ was, and thought you'd get sick from opening the pores or being around bad smells. Frick off.
They literally had running DRINKING water, you dumb frick. For centuries. And it wasn't limited to the City of Rome either, but also countless provincial cities. They even had a system that distributed best quality (drinking) running water by other pipes than lower quality - like for cleaning or public baths.
You know absolutely frickall about history, yet you keep posting. Why is that.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Romans didn't bathe nearly as often as we do because they were worried about opening the pores to sickness.
They did, and even the plebeians could afford the public bath
2 years ago
Anonymous
don't go to modern water processing facilities
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Dirty lake water, dirty mountain water
Clean springs were literally number 1 source of Roman water. There are whole Roman books about how to keep the water clean, hygienic and other questions. They had regular inspections and Roman physicians checked the water quality regularly too.
Stop posting.
What's actually happening is that with every post I'm highlighting that you don't have an argument or evidence, and are limited to just posting "hurr dumbass hurr" over and over again without cause, hoping it'll disguise your total lack of argument from onlookers.
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Why not? Because I'll see one of the many things that we have that Romans didn't, making our bathing far more effective than their dips in dirty water?
[...]
Romans didn't bathe nearly as often as we do because they were worried about opening the pores to sickness. Hell, people here on Cinemaphile probably don't even bathe every day half the time and it's 2022. What exactly do you find so hard to understand? Stop posting "hurr dumbass hurr" and make an actual point like a big boy, use your words.
>make actual points
I have been making them from the beginning. You are the one who keeps backpedaling while also claiming more and more moronic shit as you go. Illiterate moron.
2 years ago
Anonymous
"Clean" springs i.e. fricking outdoor water, unpurified, unprocessed, "inspected" by a physician that didn't even know what a germ was, and thought you'd get sick from opening the pores or being around bad smells. Frick off.
2 years ago
Anonymous
are you one of those that touch public doorknobs via a handkerchief?
2 years ago
Anonymous
No, just someone who doesn't let moronic smellgay fantasies get in the way of actually being correct about something, wish you could relate.
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They literally had running DRINKING water, you dumb frick. For centuries. And it wasn't limited to the City of Rome either, but also countless provincial cities. They even had a system that distributed best quality (drinking) running water by other pipes than lower quality - like for cleaning or public baths.
You know absolutely frickall about history, yet you keep posting. Why is that.
Yes, people had dirty drinking water too, hence why they died of e coli and so on. Is that supposed to be some kind of gotcha? "Hey, they can't have bathed in dirty standing water shared by the whole family for a month, because they also drank it too!"
You're literally too stupid to understand how stupid you are, even after I explain it to you.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>dirty standing water >if I will just keep repeating my moronation that will surely show them
Funnily enough, there are numerous contemporary citations about how specifically to make the system work to decline stagnant/dirty water, you colossal moron. They weren't as moronic as you, anon.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes, dirty standing water, do you think Atia's bath has a fricking current in it? It's a fricking pool.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Keep posting, with every word you post your moronation only grows.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>no argument
That's what I thought
2 years ago
Anonymous
There is no argument needed, because even most basic b***h research on the topic will reveal how they did it. Pumps and slaves, anon. And that was in case there wasn't a pipe straight into that pool.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Pumps and slaves move dirty water into a pool, where it now becomes dirty standing water, as an entire family "bathes" in it for a month straight. Wow, what an argument. You're fricking moronic.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Gracchus, fetch others and prepare my bath. Dirty stagnant water as usual!
lmao. This is my last (you), you are immensely braindead. Not only they had - for a third time - clean, drinking running water, they also had a way how to prevent dirty water to be used too. >they just bathe in same water for month straight. Source: my cavernous rectum.
kek
2 years ago
Anonymous
I accept your concession
2 years ago
Anonymous
imagine being too moronic to understand the concept of aquaducts
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah, it must be hard for you.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Do you actually think that all water everywhere before the year 1850 or something was just nasty green swamp water, no matter where you were or what you were doing? Please tell me you're being ironic, I'm seriously baffled by your inability to understand that ancient people knew how water worked, where to get it clean, how to distribute it, etc.
The Romans used clean natural spring water from higher altitudes and gravity fed it down aqueducts which flowed into major population centers. Everyone in the city of Rome, especially nobles, had access to water that was just as clean as the water you shower with today. They accomplished this with a series of basins along the water route that would filter out impurities, running the water through coarse (clean) gravel to filter out dust and sand, and keeping it constantly flowing. They had a complex system of sewers and waste disposal systems the likes of which wouldn't be seen for another 1500 years. They were literal gods at managing water, they had that shit down to a T.
2 years ago
Anonymous
They didn't even know what a germ was, so no, they didn't have a clue about clean water. I realize that not everything was swamp water, but you're delusional if you think anything was like the tap water you have today. Real life isn't Skyrim.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>this water is muddy-looking and kills me >this water is clear-looking and doesn't kill me >some clear water kills me, but it seems like it depends on where I get it from >this water from up in the mountains kills far fewer people than water gathered in the lowlands >maybe I should find a way to let everyone drink this water instead of the water closer to the city!
And that's the story of how the Romans found clean water without ever needing to know what a germ was. Dumbass.
"While the sewage systems of Imperial Rome may have been engineering marvels and set precedents, there were still major flaws in Roman sewer systems. The population of Rome and other cities in the empire steadily grew, increasing the strain on the waste systems. However, due to the public health laws concerning street disposal of public waste, most of the large outbreaks and public health crises cannot be directly attributed to the sewer systems of Rome. There were many other more serious factors that added to the catastrophe of the major public health crises of Imperial Rome. Since most sewer systems were privately owned, they were privately maintained, and in turn neglected. Instead, citizens would turn to their latrines; if they lived on anything but the ground floor they would even throw their excrement onto the street."
You're trash.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>people are lazy and throw their shit on the street >this somehow means that wealthy Roman citizens don't have access to clean water
You're really going to die on this ridiculous hill, aren't you? Where will you move the goalposts next, I wonder?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Water treatment plants is how we have clean water today. How did the Romans treat their water? Where did they get the electricity, you moron?
The only person dying on a ridiculous hill is you, this entire debate is so you can pretend Roman women washed their veganas as well as modern women and therefore they wouldn't stink as bad as any intelligent person knows they would, you're an obsessed smellgay and brainlet.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't give a frick about what Roman women smelled like, I'm just giving you the facts. You're the one too moronic to just do basic research on ancient filtration techniques. Clean water didn't magically get invented at the same time as electricity. No, it wasn't chemically treated, but chemical treatment is a contingency and a further iteration upon existing methods. Ancient people weren't as moronic as you, they knew to avoid things that were liable to get them dead. Their water was serviceable and their hygiene was comparable to that of most Europeans today. And if you really want to get into it, if a Roman woman "reeked" of anything, it'd be olive oil. They'd fricking bathe in the stuff sometimes, they considered it a cleansing agent and they were partially right. They wouldn't reek of rotting fish flesh like you seem to think and they certainly wouldn't make you want to hurt at the whiff of them. You're confusing hyperbolic modern movies about le gross filthy ye olden times with reality. They had the same standards of cleanliness as we do today, albeit with slightly fewer means of living up to them.
2 years ago
Anonymous
And yet you can't answer simple questions like how they knew to clean their water when they didn't know what a germ was, and didn't have the means to construct and power a modern water treatment facility. Do you think we build water treatment facilities for fun? Are they decorative?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>And yet you can't answer simple questions like how they knew to clean their water when they didn't know what a germ was
Answered that here
>this water is muddy-looking and kills me >this water is clear-looking and doesn't kill me >some clear water kills me, but it seems like it depends on where I get it from >this water from up in the mountains kills far fewer people than water gathered in the lowlands >maybe I should find a way to let everyone drink this water instead of the water closer to the city!
And that's the story of how the Romans found clean water without ever needing to know what a germ was. Dumbass.
>and didn't have the means to construct and power a modern water treatment facility
Answered that here
I don't give a frick about what Roman women smelled like, I'm just giving you the facts. You're the one too moronic to just do basic research on ancient filtration techniques. Clean water didn't magically get invented at the same time as electricity. No, it wasn't chemically treated, but chemical treatment is a contingency and a further iteration upon existing methods. Ancient people weren't as moronic as you, they knew to avoid things that were liable to get them dead. Their water was serviceable and their hygiene was comparable to that of most Europeans today. And if you really want to get into it, if a Roman woman "reeked" of anything, it'd be olive oil. They'd fricking bathe in the stuff sometimes, they considered it a cleansing agent and they were partially right. They wouldn't reek of rotting fish flesh like you seem to think and they certainly wouldn't make you want to hurt at the whiff of them. You're confusing hyperbolic modern movies about le gross filthy ye olden times with reality. They had the same standards of cleanliness as we do today, albeit with slightly fewer means of living up to them.
as well as here
Do you actually think that all water everywhere before the year 1850 or something was just nasty green swamp water, no matter where you were or what you were doing? Please tell me you're being ironic, I'm seriously baffled by your inability to understand that ancient people knew how water worked, where to get it clean, how to distribute it, etc.
The Romans used clean natural spring water from higher altitudes and gravity fed it down aqueducts which flowed into major population centers. Everyone in the city of Rome, especially nobles, had access to water that was just as clean as the water you shower with today. They accomplished this with a series of basins along the water route that would filter out impurities, running the water through coarse (clean) gravel to filter out dust and sand, and keeping it constantly flowing. They had a complex system of sewers and waste disposal systems the likes of which wouldn't be seen for another 1500 years. They were literal gods at managing water, they had that shit down to a T.
Modern water treatment techniques are undeniably better than ancient ones, but that doesn't automatically mean that ancient people were sitting around in shitty swamp water and dying of malaria every other day. That's like saying that before the invention of the firearm, everyone just slapboxed each other to death. There are gradients to these things, and the Romans were about 90% of the way to where we are now.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Didn't say they died of malaria the next day, I said they "bathed" in dirty water, and they did.
why are you so hung up on germs? humane life went for long before heckin science explained everything. it might have been less clean but surely not life threatening as you describe because well then they wouldn't survive and we wouldn't be here.
Didn't say everybody died of disease, I said the water was dirty, and it was.
2 years ago
Anonymous
And you have a very modern and sterile definition of dirty water that also doesn't seem to try to include the plastic and chemical shit we started to put into water for past 100 years.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah, I do have a modern definition of dirty water, because to hear some of these morons tell it Romans could bathe in a standing pool of water that their whole family has been using for over a month and call it "clean" because it came off a fricking mountain.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Romans could bathe in a standing pool of water that their whole family has been using for over a month
You have to be trolling at this point. There's no way you're so moronic and illiterate that you didn't read the posts after posts that multiple people replied to you with explaining that the water doesn't just sit there for months, it's circulated and replaced every day with fresh water from the aqueducts. >because it came off a fricking mountain
God, you're obtuse. Frick off moron.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I didn't ignore it, I just pointed out that it was pulled from somebody's ass. Water gets dumped into a huge pool, and then where does it go? Someone carries it off in buckets? How long does that take? You seriously think its getting changed every hour? Where does the water go? You're a fricking moron who has now wasted the entire day arguing about something he doesn't understand just so he can say "oh no, my roman waifu didn't stink, you're wrong, I can still SNIFFFFFF OMG SMELLS!" because you're a degenerate imbecile. KYS.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>he doesn't understand the concept of a drain
o i am laffin
2 years ago
Anonymous
>no argument
I already accepted your concession once, do you really need to do this again? How much of an idiot do you want to look like today?
2 years ago
Anonymous
You're the one coming off as a sissy who can't handle a bit of dirt lol.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Washing in dirty water, "washing" here meaning a brief soak in lukewarm water without scented soap, is a good way to smell like an ass. It has nothing to do with being able to "handle" anything, I can handle smelling like a hobo, but I have a triple digit IQ, so I don't want to. The Romans didn't have a choice. Seriously, go smell a homeless person, there you go, that's what your Roman waifu smells like.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Wait is this all about "owning" roman romanticising coomers? lol
2 years ago
Anonymous
Are you denying the existence of drains then? Legitimately explain to me your thought process here. Why do you think the Romans just left dirty water to sit in their baths for months at a time? What would be the purpose of that?
2 years ago
Anonymous
But you're making the month still water up. Why would they keep water still for a month when they had fresh water flowing?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Most water sources have bacteria specific to that region so locals can drink but you get the shits if you drink elsewhere
2 years ago
Anonymous
You're changing subjects. You have free flowing water right now, would you keep it for a month in the bathtub?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Me personally? Yes if Brie pissed in it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
why are you so hung up on germs? humane life went for long before heckin science explained everything. it might have been less clean but surely not life threatening as you describe because well then they wouldn't survive and we wouldn't be here.
2 years ago
Anonymous
They thought disease travelled through smelly vapours.
Eating modern ass is unironically cleaner than eating Roman or medieval pussy. Hell, in some cases its cleaner even today, because you don't have as many morons convinced the ass is "self cleaning" so it actually gets more attention in the shower.
Roman patrician women shaved, used perfumes, had running (even warm) water, their own baths and owned small army of slaves that took care of their looks from hair to nails.
What you depict applied to plebs and I don't really think it was that bad in general anyway. Humans generally dislike being stinky piles of shit and usually bathed themselves.
Oh god my heart.
Fricking a man was a huge taboo, it was fricking a boy that was not taboo in some Greek culture influenced parts of Roman society, but those that didn't like the Greek influence didn't like boy-fricking either.
No, no it was not. It was considered a bad taste (ESPECIALLY if you were the one getting fricked), but nowhere near a taboo. For example Caesar was known to frick everything that took a breath no matter their sex, hence contemporary joke of "Every Roman woman’s husband and every Roman man’s wife" or his nickname of "Queen of Bythinia" in regard of king of Bythinia fricking young twink Caesar, and he was still well-loved by military and commoners.
>not shitting with your boys
You a gay or something
2 years ago
Anonymous
Patricians had their own private shitters. Beside, like other anon said, shitting with the lads, talking about latest gladiator games and how massive milkers Fabia have, that is peak comfy.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Stinky shit is due to bad diet, these guys' shits probably weren't that bad
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Eating a big bowl of soup with the boyz while taking a fat shit
The thing with Caesar sounds to me like rumours some political enemies would make up to make Caesar look bad, and possibly a play on the fact that he would do anything for power. I think you should take it with a grain of salt, rumours like that still even still exist nowadays with calling politicians pedos and so on.
I believe in the interpretation that being penetrated correlates with being considered effeminate, which was quite bad for a Roman man, unless you were a slave of course, as in that case your ass literally doesn't belong to you.
We do see Octavia's pussy as well, and it does have hair, but neither her nor her mother are really "hairy", its clear that they have the slaves trim their pussies, neither has a full bush when we see them.
Grain from North Africa and Egypt.
citizens of Rome actually got a dole, at the time of the show it was a bread dole, every plebeian citizen got a ration of bread weekly for free.
I like mexicans because they will do what white people think that they are above. I was hoping to see you moronic homosexuals collapse, you argue about shut that doesn't matter to the poont that you think women can be men and men can be women.
I like most Mexicans too, my biggest problem I've noticed with their culture is how they treat animals, and of course the cartels but that's more our fault.
>people still repeat the meme of a youtuber that hasn't been active in 2 decades >most people now probably don't even know where the meme "what do they eat?" came from >it has expanded beyond video games too
I just think it's weird to see people use phrases and not have a clue about its origin. And you personally were right there, when it started being used. It just makes me feel kinda melancholic.
Mr BitTounge's Fallout 3 Review. He was one of the first and most successful "video game essay" youtubers, because he actually had a point he wanted to get to in his videos. He didn't just do 12 hours essays, where he only recaps the story. He actually analyzed the game.
And a simple question he mentioned he always ask himself to see if a setting is believable is "What do they eat?". People have been applying this question to all kinds of different settings now.
>asking for an explanation from an anime poster
It's not anime. The cum girl is not an anime girl.
I googled Fallout 3 what did they eat and sae these, jesus christ I hate redditors and their willful moronation and immediate turn to le epic memery. i want to fricking kill them
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/k8sidw/what_do_people_in_fallout_3_eat/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/v6fdm/what_do_people_eat_in_fallout_3/
>I just think it's weird to see people use phrases and not have a clue about its origin
But you do that yourself, every day! Or do you know the origin of every phrase you use?
>shit Americans say, because having a normal healthy heterosexual attraction to a woman might not be socially acceptable in the USA depending on an arbitrary number
Dormice stuffed with meat, camels’ heels, wienerscombs taken from living birds, the tongues of peawieners and nightingales, the viscera of mullets, flamingo brains, partridge eggs, thrush brains, the heads of parrots, pheasants and peawieners with mullet beards, garum (fermented fish sauce), and salt. To drink: mulsum (wine mixed with honey).
They actually shipped in a comical amount of grain from Egypt.
Partly because they would bribe plebs for their votes with bread, but also because the Romans had some kind of fetish for stuffing as many plebians into the city as possible.
Even in the Imperial age, when voting mattered less they’d still ship in huge shipments of bread that nutritionally, made it pretty likely the average Roman pleb was a doughy fatass.
It made Rome have an absurdly artificially high population compared to the rest of the world. (Ancient Rome:1.5 million, biggest Ancient Chinese cities: 300k at most.)
Their feeding fetish was so bad it’s part of the reason they came up with the aqueducts, because they just kept consuming so much food.
They sort of did the same with Constantinople, shipping absurd amount of grain from Egypt.
When Egypt fell to the Arab Muslims, it did the most damage in the entire city’s history.
And was probably the single most destructive even in the Byzantine’s history.
They went from 1.2 million to 30k in the city.
All because they lost their food supply.
Misinformed idiots will say the 4th crusade is what devastated the Constantinople, but when the crusaders showed up it was already a fragile Detroit tier ghost town with only 30-60k people living in it, full of dilapidation.
What really killed the city, and the empire, is when they lost their Egyptian food shipments.
The modern Turkish state likes to omit this part of history about how empty Constantinople had become, and point to the one crusader raid as the cause for its downfall.
This is because it would be very awkward for the modern Turks to admit that the religion, and the very prophet warrior they worship, is the one that nearly killed the city by stealing Egypt from it.
Alexandria had around 1 million at one point before the that.
That was mainly because it was close the main food source of Egypt.
When the Roman’s came and took the city they basically demoted it to client state and it just wavered around 500k under Roman rule while the real food from Egypt was being shipped to Rome.
>the Romans had some kind of fetish for stuffing as many plebians into the city as possible.
That's because the rich as frick senatorial class owned/bought literally all the arable land in the Empire and worked it with slaves. Even in Rome proper there were never enough jobs for free citizens to stay employed. It caused a massive urban shift because if you can't find work, you may as well move to the city and get proto-wellfare in the form of grain dole.
Even before the really massive urban shift the average Roman citizen spent his day going around from rich Roman to rich Roman begining for pennies in exchange for votes basically. The whole client-patron thing. It just goes back to the massive, unbelievable wealth disparity in the Roman empire.
You're choices as a poorgay were: sell yourself into slavery, go begging and rely on welfare, or join the legion.
vorenus was executing the will of the consul to the best of his ability. pleb rogues putting their interest against that of the Republic are definitely in the wrong.
Tons and tons of garlic. They also had a sauce called garum made from rotten fish.
If you find a time machine, whatever you do, don't smell anyone's breath.
Government subsidised bread and olive oil (so much olive oil was consumed the is a literally mountain in Rome of broken pots) legumes, alot of fish and sea food, salted fish based sauce called Garum, occasionally game meat.
They had an ancient evident of fast food outlets, you would go to the restaurant and eat it, after picking whatever meal you preferred from the items layer out. This was quite a regular occurrence since most Romans lived in tiny room spaces where they were unable to cook.
Alot of Romans ate a certain rodent similar to a guinia pig and bread them regularly too.
Welcome to our kitchen. We start with ingredients. We need white wheat flour, garum, pork tenderloin, leeks, garum, grapes, olive oil, rasin wine, garum, white wine, and the spices: garum, black pepper, lovage, garum, bay laurel berries, and asafoetida. Then the fresh herbs: oregano, garum, and rue.
anyone who's actually been with a woman who shaves vs a woman who does not appreciates the difference immensely. hair is simply disgusting. at best it gets in your mouth and impedes action and well at worst, I wont go there. maybe it was israelites or social trends or pornography that shifted the unshaven to shaven in the west in the last few decades, who knows. but as someone who's experienced both worlds i am damn happy that change happened
im convinced when people say they like hair they like the aesthetic. because up close and personal its nothing but a pain
It's porn addicts chasing novelty. Shaved is more common in porn, so hair becomes special. The fact that it traps odors and makes everything worse doesn't factor for them, because you can't smell porn, and that's all they're considering.
Plenty of ancient people shaved. Often higher classes, but they did. This demented "it was hebrews and porn" is just another example of /misc/homosexuals being illiterate.
Onions, for real
Atia's fat ass
>Atia of the Julii, I call for just ass
Lmfao
>dat gap
post the breasts
Underage slave pussy
Romans actually had a huge taboo about eating pussy, they considered it gay despite having no issue with fricking a man
Fricking a man was a huge taboo, it was fricking a boy that was not taboo in some Greek culture influenced parts of Roman society, but those that didn't like the Greek influence didn't like boy-fricking either.
Because performing oral makes you the sub. Fricking a trap means you're still in the dominant position, that is the one doing the fricking. Never perform oral on a woman if you want her to respect you.
baboon brain subhumans like this belong in a zoo
Because it would have been absolutely disgusting, akin to a scat fetish today. Eating pussy in roman times wasn't licking a relatively clean, freshly bathed pussy, it was licking something hairy, with a months worth of sweat and grool trapped in that hair, where the only bathing it had received was a quick soak in dirty lake water once every few weeks. The taboo was because anyone who would actually do it under those conditions was probably diseased and a psychopath.
>with a months worth of sweat and grool trapped
>huurrr people of the past didn't bathe
Colossal moron.
I didn't say they didn't bathe, but they didn't bathe as often as we did, and it certainly wasn't the quality of bathing that you expect when you hear bathing today. They didn't have running hot water and scented soaps and an understanding of hygiene in medieval Europe, and you're a colossal moron if you think they did. How did they heat the water, their electric water heater in their fricking hut?
>They didn't have running hot water and scented soaps and an understanding of hygiene in medieval Europe
But we're talking about Rome. Where heated baths were a huge part of city life.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocaust
Now, consider that sometimes when you think you're being clever you're in fact trumpeting your own ignorance. Be less condescending next time you little prick.
>Now, consider that sometimes when you think you're being clever you're in fact trumpeting your own ignorance. Be less condescending next time you little prick.
Good advice for you, dumbass, a fire heated pool of shared murky water isn't exactly the same as having a functional hot water shower in the home. Go find a local lake and take a quick, soapless dip in it once every two or three weeks, and then tell me how good you smell, because that's functionally what we're talking about.
>once every two or three weeks
Are you baiting or are you actually this moronic. I hope you are baiting.
>but they didn't bathe as often as we did
They did though. Patricians bathed repeatedly through the day, rest bathed at least once a day be at home or - more often - in public baths, which were pretty much the social basis of the whole Roman society. Sure, it was no shower with shower gel and shit, but they had whole lot of time on their hands. And once again, Rome had running water. Just stop talking about shit you have no knowledge about, thats literally all it takes for you to not look like a moron.
And no, not even middle ages weren't as bad as you think they were. Also (among other things) because of the baths, which survived fall of the Rome.
>months worth of sweat and grool trapped in that hair
homosexual
Her nudes are extremely tasteful, even as she ages, there's something alluring about her.
You moronic? Do you think these people had alien bodies that didn't get irritated when dirty? Roman baths and running water was one of their primary achievements, they cleaned themselves a lot. People like you that continue to spout this shit are beyond stupid, it takes a simple understanding of human nature and the most basic knowledge of the Romans.
south of the booooordeeeerr
The Romans and the Greeks had laws that punished homosexual acts, fricking someone of the same sex was seen as immoral and disgusting. Sparta had the laws of Lycurgus, Athens had Solon's laws and the Roman senate passed Lex Scantina de stupro cum masculo around 149BC during Rome's steady moral decline.
Homosexuals were mocked, abused and ridiculed by the Greeks. Q. Fabius Maximus Servilianus put his own son to death for homosexuality, the act of homosexuality itself. Homosexual behaviour was seen as such a disgraceful and dishonourable act that the consul would rather execute his own son than to have to his family bear this disgrace.
Crete was the only part of Greece where homosexuality was ever permitted by law, the natives of Crete were of unknown ethnic origin and only ruled by the Mycenaean Greeks.
Please stop spreading these bullshit lies, homosexuality has never been tolerated in a healthy society. Only during Rome's decline did such perversions as homosexuality, anal and oral sex became tolerated and to some extent popular like today.
>Lex Scantina de stupro cum masculo
That wasn't against homosexualry per se, it was a law to protect freeborn male adolescents from getting molested.
Rest of your post is similar shit quality. And considering Caesar himself fricked men (and got fricked) repeatedly throughout his life (beyond fricking small army of women himself), or the fact that old Latin didn't even had a word for a homosexual per se, I think you should stop pushing your headcanon into history.
Frick off israelite.
Great argument, you illiterate /misc/Black person subhuman.
Imagine having views so shit you can't even say one sentence without an obvious lie. This is why you only attract brainlets.
Blow it out your arse.
words fall from your mouth like shit from donkey's arse judaean
great writing
>b-but Caesar was based, /misc/ told me
kys brainlet
You're the only brainlet here.
>everybody bummed each other before heckin a*rahamists ruined everything
>i know cause my homosexual professors told me so
Homo.
>le strawman
Only homosexual here is you. They simply seen it differently than modern society 2000+ years later. Who would have thought. And yeah, contemporary Roman sources suddenly turn into 21. century leftist homosexual academics when it doesnt fit your homosexual modernist worldview, you monumental moron.
Also, google Apicius.
>Having spent a fortune of 100 million sestertii on his kitchen, spent all the gifts he had received from the Imperial court, and thus swallowed up his income in lavish hospitality, Apicius found that he had only 10 million sestertii left. Afraid of dying in relative poverty, he poisoned himself.
What the frick was his problem?
>4 sestertii is 1 denarius
>100,000,000 sestertii = 25,000,000 denarii
>The average Roman soldier receives 225 denarii a year by the time of Gaius Marius
Wealth disparity in Rome was fricking unreal, modern Capitalists wish they could even approach Time tier levels.
Around 60% of Romes entire GDP was basically directly controlled by just the Emperors.
Yep. In the second century, the emperor's of the Nerva-Antonine dynasty personally owned much of North-Africa and Egypt was their personal holding. Imagine the wealth.
That's bullshit, 60 percent of Rome GDP went straight to the military.
Yeah no shit, there is a reason why 90% of royal houses were deposed or liquidated. The last tsar literally owned all the vodka production in Russia when he died.
An increasingly bigger ammount of plebs were also unemployed because of an abundance of slave labour from conquests, so they literally sat on their asses, got food gibs from the government and spent their days watching gladiator fights and shitposting on the public latrines. Rome was literally a NEET empire
In contrast, some estimates of Crassus' wealth is at 175 to 200m sesterces
Jupiter's wiener!
The guy just spent the equivalent of 50% of Marcus Crassus' wealth on his food. Is he our fa/tv/irgin's guy?
I've heard that 1D was about a day's wage for a working class roman. So maybe about $200 in today's money
You have to remember that Ancient Rome had a pre-industrial economy, so it's not fair to compare it to "today's money" in any sense. Labor would have been much cheaper relative to consumer goods, which, without factories or mass transportation, would have been handmade by artisans and very expensive.
Just 100 years ago, it was big news when Henry Ford doubled the wages of his factory workers to $5 a day, which is a little less than $150 adjusted for inflation. That's for 10 hours of work, in an industrialized economy. I wouldn't be surprised if the average Roman could buy $10 or less worth of goods with a day's work. This wouldn't be a problem though; most people worked as farmers and could produce their own food. They had no utility bills, no rent, only taxes.
it also depends massively on the year, as the denarius was debased as time went on
There's a reason Rome collapsed
thanks nerd
Lots of fish oil that’s why the average age was 78 even 2,000 years ago
>The average age was 78
>In a country where the average age was actually 28 for plebs and 32 for soldiers, who together represent the majority of the Roman population throughout history
>Even for senators the average age never exceeds 58
I'm so confused.
this shit is such a misnomer. Infant mortality is the only real difference in life expectancy between modern and historical people. This dumb idea that everybody died at 40 is from people who can't think about it for more than five seconds. There were tons of people in their 70s and 80s all throughout history, everywhere.
Rome in particular venerated the elderly. The Senate was basically like the US Senate is today: filled to the brim with half-senile 80-year-olds who should retire.
Yeah but even setting aside infant mortality it still doesn’t make you magically correct that a bunch of people lived to that age like they do today. And given your acute moronation I’m not surprised you somehow still managed to loop it all back around to US politics.
>Ignores 'average' part of life expectancy
The average has always been low prior to the hygiene movement. People have been dying constantly of smallpox, cholera and dysentery from human feces in the drinking water, and of course, war and pillaging. The average person died young until post-1850s life, and infant mortality has only made for an even bleaker metric.
There have always been people who have lived into their 70s and 80s but those people are not the average. The majority of people, in the majority of places, at the majority of times, have died of hunger, disease or conflict in the teens or twenties if they survive to adulthood at all.
>The majority of people, in the majority of places, at the majority of times, have died of hunger, disease or conflict in the teens or twenties if they survive to adulthood at all.
Not him, but this is just patently false. Even during late middle ages when the issues you mention were really pressing (ancient Rome was very different, not to mention Greece) it wasn't nowhere near bad. I hate when people who clearly studied history last time in elementary talk about it. Truth is is that after removing infant mortality, general life expectancy wasn't that much lower from today. It was still lower, but not really much. Ie.: if you made it past childhood, you were usually alright.
Don't forget that Rome had very advanced plumbing, running water, fairly high hygiene standards, public trash removal services and other things that were mostly lost until 19th century.
Frick, not even middle ages weren't as dirty as you probably think.
>misnomer
Which part was a wrong or inaccurate use of a name or term?
>the average age was 78 even 2,000 years ago
Fricking kek no it wasn’t. Who fed you that information to regurgitate blindly like a moron, or did you come up with that horseshit all on your own?
Not that guy but I've taught myself to astral project through time when I sleep and I can confirm Romans often lived into their mid 70's.
No you haven’t
Sure have. You have to master lucid dreaming first.
Consider you’re a zoomer I don’t think you’ve lived long enough to put the hours in to master anything
Based.
true roman bread for true romans
why'd this obvious answer take so long to appear in this thread?
Because Cinemaphile is a shadow of its former self.
>true roman bread for true romans
6 replies before this, unacceptable Cinemaphile get your shit together
Caesar salad
sees the salad
True Roman Bread
t. guild of millers
Was always fun how ancient society really wasn't much different from modern society. israelites, ads, corrupt politicians, sports, ect
trve roman bread for trve romans
grain dole supplied by egypt, olives, and wine
Spaghetti.
Slave wiener at an orgy
Pizza with tomato sauce, Canadian bacon, and pineapple.
dicky
bacon was actually a very commonly eaten meat for romans. they also ate a lot of cheese
Constatinian propaganda, trve Romans dont eat dairy.
>pineapple
Garum, a potable fermented fish product.
Garum is fricking great. It's western umami flavoring
>Garum, a potable fermented fish product.
Actual answers are no longer allowed here.
Please provide a pithy, cynical pop culture reference instead.
TRVE
ROMAN
BREAD
Garum, because it always shows up on my youtube feed. It's a fermented fish sauce.
Humans always pushing boundries eating shit that should kill them.
It's not even that, it started because fishermen salted and preserved their fish with olive oil and had no choice but to try and sell it. A new fad started and then the elite adopted rotten fish sauce.
Garum is antiseptic and actually pretty tasty. It's similar to worcestershire sauce or SE Asian fish sauce, but less salty and a little more oily.
It's really fricking good with lamb or pork.
I know this you fricking reddit spacing Black person.
>Reddit spacing
Election tourist
I've been here since Obama was elected, you can never leave either
Same I was a Ron Paul guy, I miss that fricker.
It happened
>It's similar to worcestershire sauce or SE Asian fish sauce
The garum I have is made using texts and chemical analysis of a garum factory buried when Vesuvius blew and it is NOTHING like either of those sauces.
Vesuvius was an inside job
Same, but mine is based on analysis of some sealed garum amphorae they found in Spain. It tastes like a really light worcestershire sauce to me. It's not exactly the same and garum has its own flavor, but it's the closest comparable thing.
I've had that kind as well and I believe the Spanish stuff uses much lighter fish (sardines) which might be where you're getting the Worcestershire from in it since that also uses sardines.
Best I ever had was a batch I made myself using mackerel I caught. It was flat out the best flavored but my neighbors despised me while it fermented and I had a consistent aura of sea birds until it was done.
I mix some in all the pasta I make and everyone raves about how good my pasta is but I almost never tell them my secret is fermented fish gut sauce.
>The garum I have is made using texts and chemical analysis of a garum factory buried when Vesuvius blew
>mine is based on analysis of some sealed garum amphorae they found in Spain
Will you huge giant nerds post the sauce on your sauce?
Matiz Flor de Garum is the Spanish stuff.
Thank you. Wow, they actually sell it on Amazon. TRUE FERMENTED FISH GUTS FOR TRUE ROMANS.
I've made my way through every Apicius recipe that isn't just super obscure (flamingo tongues, etc) and Romans ate pretty good.
I actually do some of his wild game recipes fairly often now. I had a Cinemaphile thread a while back about a stag recipe and it's absolutely fantastic.
>another thread derailed by garum posters
We must suffer what the earth mother has sent us
OP made this thread for that purpose.
He made it to make the two Cinemaphile posters seethe, and he did
WE HAD NOTHING BUT GARUM FOR THREE STINKING DAYS
why can't we have some meat?
Like shit from an ass
This show is bad outside of scenes featuring Mark Anthony, Caesar, and Brutus.
I kinda want to make a video essay shitting on this show, I'm so sick of people praising it for all the five good scenes it has, most of the show is wacky Pullo shit or cringe sex.
Shut the frick up zoomer
Filtered
Sex is kino
Just watched this the other day actually and it was pretty interesting. Definitely relevant in this thread
kek only monitoring this thread because I knew yoou homosexuals would show up
OP made this thread on purpose, now that the romaboos and israelites are her enjoy your garum.
Seethe more greekgay
Romans were blonde and red haired celts, italians are a conquered race of islamic rape babies.
Romans unironically had takeout
>muh three hundred myth
Good bread, true Roman bread
on god, I'd be eating her ginger bush every night
Well written character, but I doubt she was a promiscuous prostitute, she just backed the wrong men.
She was, it was Augstus's prime motivation to exterminate prostitutes in his newly established empire. His great grand daughter would become the biggest bawd in history
>great grand daughter
It was literally his daughter.
Livia wasn't his daughter, she was his mom
No moron Livia was his sister and birthed the most psychotic evil people that have ever existed.
Livia was his wife you moron
Augustus mother was NOTHING like the mother in the show you fricking moron. The character is the polar opposite of all reports of her.
>Mother of the most powerful man of the empire, the Princep, first Emperor of Rome
>Portrayed as the most virtuous woman
Wow, really surprising!!!
schizo or dumbass take your pick
Pretty much all contemporary and modern sources agree that irl Atia was pretty much the opposite of how she was in the show. I loved her character, she was great on TV, but irl she was polar opposite. Augustus got his chastity boner and moral reforms from mommy, not because mommy was degenerate.
Why was she so good when Cersei was so shit
Woman acting like a woman vs woman acting like a man
Blacks invented garum
JUNO'S c**t MAN
I wonder if medusa pusy taste gud fr fr
CONSULS OF ROME
Cato did nothing wrong.
He did a lot of wrong, but julius ceasar had him killed and then adopted his political ambitions as his own
Cato went full moron, the Republic was already on its deathbed but he sealed the deal by being an uncompromising sperg.
And what of good Solonius?
He died from my wiener in ass
You gave him aids?
Monkey pox
You associate Black folk. with disease spreading monkies now? Guck you racist piece of shit
Always have.
You stupid Black folk, you thought that the israelites that put up a stink actually liked you. Stupid fricking Black person
Did you say Salmoneus? Cause i heard he has some really good deals!
based
bread from grain from egypt. It is a literal plotpoint in the show you dumb moron
Rome had pizza BTW, basically herbs and olive oil with garlic. They probably delivered too.
Whats old is new again.
Grain mostly from Egypt, also fish and green veggies
they invented aqueducts dude. they knew what the frick was up
If it was me, I'd be sucking Octavia's butthole for a living.
Latinas want to racemix and thier familia are open to strengthening their ranks.
They hate Black folk more than you
I fricking doubt that
You would be wrong
I don't doubt they hate him, who doesn't, but to hate them more than me? That's a tall order.
Mothers eat out their daughters, daughters eat out their mothers
I want to be the son that watches from the corner
They both would have been hairy down there
I think the upper class romans shaved actually
We see the mother has a bush, no idea if we see daughter's, but realism wise a bush is guaranteed. Then combine it with once a month public bathing in murky water, and that hair trapping anything that comes out of their veganas i.e. any veganal lubricant, and the smell would have been overpowering. People who think they'd frick Atia here would actually start gagging the second she took her pants off. Maybe even before, if she had an open air dress or something. There's a reason women have always been considered unclean, natural pussy is extremely off putting.
you think a wealthy roman noblewoman couldnt take the time or afford to clean herself and shave? keeping appearances is literally the most important thing in higher circles of society
even the average roman was very clean by pre-modern standards, public baths were well maintained places and the center of many cities and communities, they didnt wash with eachothers filth as they had clever plumbing and engineering systems to keep everything working and fresh
>public bathing in murky water
We literally see her bathing in private. Wealthy houses had their own taps into aqueduct supplies to the city, their water was actually very clean and constantly circulated. Pusy is also self-cleaning in the same way it's self-lubricating. That's not a cope, that's simply the way that it worked for a very long time in human history. Men weren't repulsed then, they wouldn't be repulsed now.
>We literally see her bathing in private
And where did that water come from? How often is it changed? We see her "bathing in private" in murky water that her entire family has been bathing in for probably a month or more.
>pussy is self cleaning
Thanks for outing yourself as a virgin. In real life, even WITH modern hygiene, pussy reaks, that's with bathing in actual clean water with actual soap, shaving, etc. Yes, I'm sure Roman/ancient men were able to build up a tolerance to it and just become noseblind, but if anyone in this thread tried to lay with a Roman woman I'm not kidding when I say you'd literally vomit. You have no idea what pussy smells like, but I promise it isn't cinnamon rolls.
>And where did that water come from? How often is it changed?
I literally just said where it comes from and how often it's changed, you illiterate frick. Did you read the first few words and frantically write up a seething reply?
>Thanks for outing yourself as a virgin. In real life, even WITH modern hygiene, pussy reaks, that's with bathing in actual clean water with actual soap, shaving, etc.
I'm not gonna bother listing all the ways you're wrong about that, but I will say one thing: soap and perfumes have been around pretty much since the dawn of civilization. People love adorning themselves with scents and ridding themselves of their natural scents, it's hardcoded into their brains. You're fricking moronic if you think you'd actually vomit from the smell of a highborn noble woman's pussy at any point in human history, but then again you're clearly such a flaming homosexual I almost wouldn't be surprised.
Aquaduct from where? Dirty lake water, dirty mountain water, it is NOT replenished regularly. You're full of shit because you'd rather maintain your fantasy of eating medieval Roman pussy than just being correct and sensible. Civilization didn't spring out fully formed on day one, we had to work at it.
Listen to the other anon who told you to stop posting. With every post you are making it worse and worse, you dumbass.
What's actually happening is that with every post I'm highlighting that you don't have an argument or evidence, and are limited to just posting "hurr dumbass hurr" over and over again without cause, hoping it'll disguise your total lack of argument from onlookers.
Why not? Because I'll see one of the many things that we have that Romans didn't, making our bathing far more effective than their dips in dirty water?
Romans didn't bathe nearly as often as we do because they were worried about opening the pores to sickness. Hell, people here on Cinemaphile probably don't even bathe every day half the time and it's 2022. What exactly do you find so hard to understand? Stop posting "hurr dumbass hurr" and make an actual point like a big boy, use your words.
They literally had running DRINKING water, you dumb frick. For centuries. And it wasn't limited to the City of Rome either, but also countless provincial cities. They even had a system that distributed best quality (drinking) running water by other pipes than lower quality - like for cleaning or public baths.
You know absolutely frickall about history, yet you keep posting. Why is that.
>Romans didn't bathe nearly as often as we do because they were worried about opening the pores to sickness.
They did, and even the plebeians could afford the public bath
don't go to modern water processing facilities
>Dirty lake water, dirty mountain water
Clean springs were literally number 1 source of Roman water. There are whole Roman books about how to keep the water clean, hygienic and other questions. They had regular inspections and Roman physicians checked the water quality regularly too.
Stop posting.
>make actual points
I have been making them from the beginning. You are the one who keeps backpedaling while also claiming more and more moronic shit as you go. Illiterate moron.
"Clean" springs i.e. fricking outdoor water, unpurified, unprocessed, "inspected" by a physician that didn't even know what a germ was, and thought you'd get sick from opening the pores or being around bad smells. Frick off.
are you one of those that touch public doorknobs via a handkerchief?
No, just someone who doesn't let moronic smellgay fantasies get in the way of actually being correct about something, wish you could relate.
Yes, people had dirty drinking water too, hence why they died of e coli and so on. Is that supposed to be some kind of gotcha? "Hey, they can't have bathed in dirty standing water shared by the whole family for a month, because they also drank it too!"
You're literally too stupid to understand how stupid you are, even after I explain it to you.
>dirty standing water
>if I will just keep repeating my moronation that will surely show them
Funnily enough, there are numerous contemporary citations about how specifically to make the system work to decline stagnant/dirty water, you colossal moron. They weren't as moronic as you, anon.
Yes, dirty standing water, do you think Atia's bath has a fricking current in it? It's a fricking pool.
Keep posting, with every word you post your moronation only grows.
>no argument
That's what I thought
There is no argument needed, because even most basic b***h research on the topic will reveal how they did it. Pumps and slaves, anon. And that was in case there wasn't a pipe straight into that pool.
Pumps and slaves move dirty water into a pool, where it now becomes dirty standing water, as an entire family "bathes" in it for a month straight. Wow, what an argument. You're fricking moronic.
>Gracchus, fetch others and prepare my bath. Dirty stagnant water as usual!
lmao. This is my last (you), you are immensely braindead. Not only they had - for a third time - clean, drinking running water, they also had a way how to prevent dirty water to be used too.
>they just bathe in same water for month straight. Source: my cavernous rectum.
kek
I accept your concession
imagine being too moronic to understand the concept of aquaducts
Yeah, it must be hard for you.
Do you actually think that all water everywhere before the year 1850 or something was just nasty green swamp water, no matter where you were or what you were doing? Please tell me you're being ironic, I'm seriously baffled by your inability to understand that ancient people knew how water worked, where to get it clean, how to distribute it, etc.
The Romans used clean natural spring water from higher altitudes and gravity fed it down aqueducts which flowed into major population centers. Everyone in the city of Rome, especially nobles, had access to water that was just as clean as the water you shower with today. They accomplished this with a series of basins along the water route that would filter out impurities, running the water through coarse (clean) gravel to filter out dust and sand, and keeping it constantly flowing. They had a complex system of sewers and waste disposal systems the likes of which wouldn't be seen for another 1500 years. They were literal gods at managing water, they had that shit down to a T.
They didn't even know what a germ was, so no, they didn't have a clue about clean water. I realize that not everything was swamp water, but you're delusional if you think anything was like the tap water you have today. Real life isn't Skyrim.
>this water is muddy-looking and kills me
>this water is clear-looking and doesn't kill me
>some clear water kills me, but it seems like it depends on where I get it from
>this water from up in the mountains kills far fewer people than water gathered in the lowlands
>maybe I should find a way to let everyone drink this water instead of the water closer to the city!
And that's the story of how the Romans found clean water without ever needing to know what a germ was. Dumbass.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disease_in_Imperial_Rome#Roman_sewage_and_aqueduct_systems
"While the sewage systems of Imperial Rome may have been engineering marvels and set precedents, there were still major flaws in Roman sewer systems. The population of Rome and other cities in the empire steadily grew, increasing the strain on the waste systems. However, due to the public health laws concerning street disposal of public waste, most of the large outbreaks and public health crises cannot be directly attributed to the sewer systems of Rome. There were many other more serious factors that added to the catastrophe of the major public health crises of Imperial Rome. Since most sewer systems were privately owned, they were privately maintained, and in turn neglected. Instead, citizens would turn to their latrines; if they lived on anything but the ground floor they would even throw their excrement onto the street."
You're trash.
>people are lazy and throw their shit on the street
>this somehow means that wealthy Roman citizens don't have access to clean water
You're really going to die on this ridiculous hill, aren't you? Where will you move the goalposts next, I wonder?
Water treatment plants is how we have clean water today. How did the Romans treat their water? Where did they get the electricity, you moron?
The only person dying on a ridiculous hill is you, this entire debate is so you can pretend Roman women washed their veganas as well as modern women and therefore they wouldn't stink as bad as any intelligent person knows they would, you're an obsessed smellgay and brainlet.
I don't give a frick about what Roman women smelled like, I'm just giving you the facts. You're the one too moronic to just do basic research on ancient filtration techniques. Clean water didn't magically get invented at the same time as electricity. No, it wasn't chemically treated, but chemical treatment is a contingency and a further iteration upon existing methods. Ancient people weren't as moronic as you, they knew to avoid things that were liable to get them dead. Their water was serviceable and their hygiene was comparable to that of most Europeans today. And if you really want to get into it, if a Roman woman "reeked" of anything, it'd be olive oil. They'd fricking bathe in the stuff sometimes, they considered it a cleansing agent and they were partially right. They wouldn't reek of rotting fish flesh like you seem to think and they certainly wouldn't make you want to hurt at the whiff of them. You're confusing hyperbolic modern movies about le gross filthy ye olden times with reality. They had the same standards of cleanliness as we do today, albeit with slightly fewer means of living up to them.
And yet you can't answer simple questions like how they knew to clean their water when they didn't know what a germ was, and didn't have the means to construct and power a modern water treatment facility. Do you think we build water treatment facilities for fun? Are they decorative?
>And yet you can't answer simple questions like how they knew to clean their water when they didn't know what a germ was
Answered that here
>and didn't have the means to construct and power a modern water treatment facility
Answered that here
as well as here
Modern water treatment techniques are undeniably better than ancient ones, but that doesn't automatically mean that ancient people were sitting around in shitty swamp water and dying of malaria every other day. That's like saying that before the invention of the firearm, everyone just slapboxed each other to death. There are gradients to these things, and the Romans were about 90% of the way to where we are now.
Didn't say they died of malaria the next day, I said they "bathed" in dirty water, and they did.
Didn't say everybody died of disease, I said the water was dirty, and it was.
And you have a very modern and sterile definition of dirty water that also doesn't seem to try to include the plastic and chemical shit we started to put into water for past 100 years.
Yeah, I do have a modern definition of dirty water, because to hear some of these morons tell it Romans could bathe in a standing pool of water that their whole family has been using for over a month and call it "clean" because it came off a fricking mountain.
>Romans could bathe in a standing pool of water that their whole family has been using for over a month
You have to be trolling at this point. There's no way you're so moronic and illiterate that you didn't read the posts after posts that multiple people replied to you with explaining that the water doesn't just sit there for months, it's circulated and replaced every day with fresh water from the aqueducts.
>because it came off a fricking mountain
God, you're obtuse. Frick off moron.
I didn't ignore it, I just pointed out that it was pulled from somebody's ass. Water gets dumped into a huge pool, and then where does it go? Someone carries it off in buckets? How long does that take? You seriously think its getting changed every hour? Where does the water go? You're a fricking moron who has now wasted the entire day arguing about something he doesn't understand just so he can say "oh no, my roman waifu didn't stink, you're wrong, I can still SNIFFFFFF OMG SMELLS!" because you're a degenerate imbecile. KYS.
>he doesn't understand the concept of a drain
o i am laffin
>no argument
I already accepted your concession once, do you really need to do this again? How much of an idiot do you want to look like today?
You're the one coming off as a sissy who can't handle a bit of dirt lol.
Washing in dirty water, "washing" here meaning a brief soak in lukewarm water without scented soap, is a good way to smell like an ass. It has nothing to do with being able to "handle" anything, I can handle smelling like a hobo, but I have a triple digit IQ, so I don't want to. The Romans didn't have a choice. Seriously, go smell a homeless person, there you go, that's what your Roman waifu smells like.
Wait is this all about "owning" roman romanticising coomers? lol
Are you denying the existence of drains then? Legitimately explain to me your thought process here. Why do you think the Romans just left dirty water to sit in their baths for months at a time? What would be the purpose of that?
But you're making the month still water up. Why would they keep water still for a month when they had fresh water flowing?
Most water sources have bacteria specific to that region so locals can drink but you get the shits if you drink elsewhere
You're changing subjects. You have free flowing water right now, would you keep it for a month in the bathtub?
Me personally? Yes if Brie pissed in it.
why are you so hung up on germs? humane life went for long before heckin science explained everything. it might have been less clean but surely not life threatening as you describe because well then they wouldn't survive and we wouldn't be here.
They thought disease travelled through smelly vapours.
See you say that and your logic is sound, but some men dont mind eating ass which has always been disgusting so I fail to see the dilemma
Eating modern ass is unironically cleaner than eating Roman or medieval pussy. Hell, in some cases its cleaner even today, because you don't have as many morons convinced the ass is "self cleaning" so it actually gets more attention in the shower.
Roman patrician women shaved, used perfumes, had running (even warm) water, their own baths and owned small army of slaves that took care of their looks from hair to nails.
What you depict applied to plebs and I don't really think it was that bad in general anyway. Humans generally dislike being stinky piles of shit and usually bathed themselves.
Oh god my heart.
No, no it was not. It was considered a bad taste (ESPECIALLY if you were the one getting fricked), but nowhere near a taboo. For example Caesar was known to frick everything that took a breath no matter their sex, hence contemporary joke of "Every Roman woman’s husband and every Roman man’s wife" or his nickname of "Queen of Bythinia" in regard of king of Bythinia fricking young twink Caesar, and he was still well-loved by military and commoners.
Dunno, Romans liked the smell of shit
>not shitting with your boys
You a gay or something
Patricians had their own private shitters. Beside, like other anon said, shitting with the lads, talking about latest gladiator games and how massive milkers Fabia have, that is peak comfy.
Stinky shit is due to bad diet, these guys' shits probably weren't that bad
>Eating a big bowl of soup with the boyz while taking a fat shit
We have lost so much
Elvis must have been Roman
The thing with Caesar sounds to me like rumours some political enemies would make up to make Caesar look bad, and possibly a play on the fact that he would do anything for power. I think you should take it with a grain of salt, rumours like that still even still exist nowadays with calling politicians pedos and so on.
I believe in the interpretation that being penetrated correlates with being considered effeminate, which was quite bad for a Roman man, unless you were a slave of course, as in that case your ass literally doesn't belong to you.
We do see Octavia's pussy as well, and it does have hair, but neither her nor her mother are really "hairy", its clear that they have the slaves trim their pussies, neither has a full bush when we see them.
Oh no!
You fricking sexless morons know you will have to frick your neighbors, they want to frick you.
Im not israeli, but jeb! was right, our future is with the beaners.
Grain from North Africa and Egypt.
citizens of Rome actually got a dole, at the time of the show it was a bread dole, every plebeian citizen got a ration of bread weekly for free.
Rome fell because of communism
I like mexicans because they will do what white people think that they are above. I was hoping to see you moronic homosexuals collapse, you argue about shut that doesn't matter to the poont that you think women can be men and men can be women.
True, my wifes family hated me until we got married. Now they can't stop bringing me booze and tasty food.
Lol you must also be a clown music afficiano
She goes to a lot of effort to make sure that my balls are empty and my belly full.
Beaner girls won't even look at me
I like most Mexicans too, my biggest problem I've noticed with their culture is how they treat animals, and of course the cartels but that's more our fault.
>people still repeat the meme of a youtuber that hasn't been active in 2 decades
>most people now probably don't even know where the meme "what do they eat?" came from
>it has expanded beyond video games too
I just think it's weird to see people use phrases and not have a clue about its origin. And you personally were right there, when it started being used. It just makes me feel kinda melancholic.
Explain for us plebians
>asking for an explanation from an anime poster
Mr BitTounge's Fallout 3 Review. He was one of the first and most successful "video game essay" youtubers, because he actually had a point he wanted to get to in his videos. He didn't just do 12 hours essays, where he only recaps the story. He actually analyzed the game.
And a simple question he mentioned he always ask himself to see if a setting is believable is "What do they eat?". People have been applying this question to all kinds of different settings now.
It's not anime. The cum girl is not an anime girl.
I googled Fallout 3 what did they eat and sae these, jesus christ I hate redditors and their willful moronation and immediate turn to le epic memery. i want to fricking kill them
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/k8sidw/what_do_people_in_fallout_3_eat/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/v6fdm/what_do_people_eat_in_fallout_3/
Cinemaphile does the same shit. 99% of posts here are robotic repeating of the same meme shit.
It was Lindybeige actually who introduced the concept of "what did they eat?"
>I just think it's weird to see people use phrases and not have a clue about its origin
But you do that yourself, every day! Or do you know the origin of every phrase you use?
Lots of good vegetables with a moderate amount of meat and fish. Romans had healthy diets.
>shit Americans say, because having a normal healthy heterosexual attraction to a woman might not be socially acceptable in the USA depending on an arbitrary number
hey john i know you just got out of jail and all but you're not supposed to jodiepost on the interwebs, if the judge sees this he won't be happy
>post a cute girl smirking
>Noooo, you can't do that, you are a pedophile for doing that
SEEETHE, American, SEETHE
are you a shitskin or something? age of consent isn't an arbitrary number, it exists for a reason
Why?
Well frens I'm gonna drink garum and die.
Dormice stuffed with meat, camels’ heels, wienerscombs taken from living birds, the tongues of peawieners and nightingales, the viscera of mullets, flamingo brains, partridge eggs, thrush brains, the heads of parrots, pheasants and peawieners with mullet beards, garum (fermented fish sauce), and salt. To drink: mulsum (wine mixed with honey).
They actually shipped in a comical amount of grain from Egypt.
Partly because they would bribe plebs for their votes with bread, but also because the Romans had some kind of fetish for stuffing as many plebians into the city as possible.
Even in the Imperial age, when voting mattered less they’d still ship in huge shipments of bread that nutritionally, made it pretty likely the average Roman pleb was a doughy fatass.
It made Rome have an absurdly artificially high population compared to the rest of the world. (Ancient Rome:1.5 million, biggest Ancient Chinese cities: 300k at most.)
Their feeding fetish was so bad it’s part of the reason they came up with the aqueducts, because they just kept consuming so much food.
They sort of did the same with Constantinople, shipping absurd amount of grain from Egypt.
When Egypt fell to the Arab Muslims, it did the most damage in the entire city’s history.
And was probably the single most destructive even in the Byzantine’s history.
They went from 1.2 million to 30k in the city.
All because they lost their food supply.
Misinformed idiots will say the 4th crusade is what devastated the Constantinople, but when the crusaders showed up it was already a fragile Detroit tier ghost town with only 30-60k people living in it, full of dilapidation.
What really killed the city, and the empire, is when they lost their Egyptian food shipments.
The modern Turkish state likes to omit this part of history about how empty Constantinople had become, and point to the one crusader raid as the cause for its downfall.
This is because it would be very awkward for the modern Turks to admit that the religion, and the very prophet warrior they worship, is the one that nearly killed the city by stealing Egypt from it.
>one-and-a-half million people
>in the fricking first century
What a kino fricking civilization.
Alexandria had around 1 million at one point before the that.
That was mainly because it was close the main food source of Egypt.
When the Roman’s came and took the city they basically demoted it to client state and it just wavered around 500k under Roman rule while the real food from Egypt was being shipped to Rome.
This shit is amazing, I gotta learn more about history.
Really don't
>the Romans had some kind of fetish for stuffing as many plebians into the city as possible.
That's because the rich as frick senatorial class owned/bought literally all the arable land in the Empire and worked it with slaves. Even in Rome proper there were never enough jobs for free citizens to stay employed. It caused a massive urban shift because if you can't find work, you may as well move to the city and get proto-wellfare in the form of grain dole.
Even before the really massive urban shift the average Roman citizen spent his day going around from rich Roman to rich Roman begining for pennies in exchange for votes basically. The whole client-patron thing. It just goes back to the massive, unbelievable wealth disparity in the Roman empire.
You're choices as a poorgay were: sell yourself into slavery, go begging and rely on welfare, or join the legion.
why do people hate Pullo and Vorenus nowadays?
Who was in the wrong here?
Quintus Bubo or the boy? Vorenus?
Who was in the wrong here?
vorenus was executing the will of the consul to the best of his ability. pleb rogues putting their interest against that of the Republic are definitely in the wrong.
He paid for it. If the dude didn't want his people to sell bjs he should have handled it.
Carbo's from a proud family. No one sucks wiener without his say so!
And what of season 3?
Looks like shit
What the deuce
I honestly was confused for a hot second.
Well played.
Now if only Imperator Galacticus Caesar MCVIII had a hot daughter...
Seriously for all the money going into new lotr I'd rather get new Rome. The pozzing wouldn't even be egregious.
Spit porridge (yum!)
Tons and tons of garlic. They also had a sauce called garum made from rotten fish.
If you find a time machine, whatever you do, don't smell anyone's breath.
Government subsidised bread and olive oil (so much olive oil was consumed the is a literally mountain in Rome of broken pots) legumes, alot of fish and sea food, salted fish based sauce called Garum, occasionally game meat.
They had an ancient evident of fast food outlets, you would go to the restaurant and eat it, after picking whatever meal you preferred from the items layer out. This was quite a regular occurrence since most Romans lived in tiny room spaces where they were unable to cook.
Alot of Romans ate a certain rodent similar to a guinia pig and bread them regularly too.
Welcome to our kitchen. We start with ingredients. We need white wheat flour, garum, pork tenderloin, leeks, garum, grapes, olive oil, rasin wine, garum, white wine, and the spices: garum, black pepper, lovage, garum, bay laurel berries, and asafoetida. Then the fresh herbs: oregano, garum, and rue.
True Roman leeks for true Romans
What about my Garum allergies?
why did i watch this shitty cartoon on Netflix? does my hunger for roman shit know no bounds?
I liked it, it's a fun little read and the author is a huge HBO Rome fan.
Grains imported from North Africa
pussy and dick
Food
They laid around eating grapes.
the autistic anon in this thread is correct
anyone who's actually been with a woman who shaves vs a woman who does not appreciates the difference immensely. hair is simply disgusting. at best it gets in your mouth and impedes action and well at worst, I wont go there. maybe it was israelites or social trends or pornography that shifted the unshaven to shaven in the west in the last few decades, who knows. but as someone who's experienced both worlds i am damn happy that change happened
im convinced when people say they like hair they like the aesthetic. because up close and personal its nothing but a pain
It's porn addicts chasing novelty. Shaved is more common in porn, so hair becomes special. The fact that it traps odors and makes everything worse doesn't factor for them, because you can't smell porn, and that's all they're considering.
Plenty of ancient people shaved. Often higher classes, but they did. This demented "it was hebrews and porn" is just another example of /misc/homosexuals being illiterate.
You can still trim while not shaving it off completely
Are people still garum posting?
Another thread ruined and derailed by ass sniffers.
methinks anon doth protest too much
Good thread this
>mfw someone tells me to go back to Gaul
you do have to admit, you have a gallic look about you.
He, Pullo and maybe Ceasar looked most Roman in the show.
I was referencing that line where he himself admits he looks a bit Gallic when he was running for whatever position in his neighborhood marketplace.
oh yeah i remember i thought that was dumb as well especially considering the populace.
it was fine, just a bit tongue in cheek
I'll not deny it, anon, but I'm as true a shitposter as any of you.
Ginger knob.
TRVE AFRICAN BVLLS FOR TRVE ROMAN CVCKOLDS
Peepee poopoo
And what of Good Cossutius?
Are there estimates of Rome's GDP during Apicius' time? How much food did that fat frick ate?