Just saw it. Legitimately a nearly flawless film, and exactly what Godzilla should be. I haven't seen every Godzilla movie but if anyone can suggest one that's better than Minus One, I'd love to see it
>nearly flawless film
The ending was a little weak. >"Look, the girl you thought died actually survived! (And is about to die anyways to radiation poisoning)" >"All that effort and sacrifice worked, you killed Godzilla! (For like 3 seconds)"
The latter point should have been the beginning of a sequel, not the end of an isolated movie. The former is just weird and completely out-of-place, as if confused on what emotion its trying to make you feel. They didn't even finish resolving the joy of reunion before demonstrating its useless and she's still going die, but neither of them realize that and they keep the scene upbeat and happy and joyous while focusing on her black spot.
Ultimately an incredible film that I loved from start to finish, but those two points hold it back from being flawless.
People surviving at first but ultimately dying from radiation poisoning is the reality of nuclear weapons. What are you supposed to feel? Conflicted, bittersweet, hopeless.
>What are you supposed to feel?
The thing is, they finished the mc's character arc. He resolved himself through all the deaths and decided to live for the kid's sake. It was conclusive and a stronger finish to end it there. Bringing Noriko back with the sneak peek of imminent death is indeed just evocative of nuclear consequences, but it wasn't paced right to properly convey it. It was a happy ending reunion scene with a sudden "gatcha!" It undermined the reunion, but it was also 30 seconds after already thinking she's dead, so her dying again lacked any emotional punch. In addition to that, it was Godzilla radiation instead of man's. A natural disaster instead of a preventable one, which further blunts the message. I just don't feel like it was handled right, both for his character arc and that message.
I think the stuff on her neck was how she survived in the first place, somehow she got Godzilla's healing factor from like exposure or something? I'm not sure the movie doesn't make it explicit, it's a sequel cliffhanger, but that was my interpretation, not that she was radiation poisoned and gonna die anyway. that's the first time I've heard that interpretation.
Great movie, first act felt a little off for some reason but everything from the first Goji attack onwards was fantastic.
Super glad no-one died in the final fight, the whole theme of Japan being too willing to throw lives away and that you don't need to self-sacrifice to win was something I haven't seen in a movie like this. I do wish that if films wanted to have a character survive they wouldn't kill them. Noriko was DEAD, they should have shot it in a slightly more ambiguous way..
The 'Godzilla isn't actually dead lol' teaser is such a traditional part of the movies now they can't not do it. There might not even end up being a sequel.
>I do wish that if films wanted to have a character survive they wouldn't kill them. Noriko was DEAD, they should have shot it in a slightly more ambiguous way.
Absolutely trash taste. Never speak on films again.
Anyone that has a problem with Noriko living is the exact type of subhuman to whom not just films but all forms of media and art need to stop pandering and start trying to actively alienate.
>The former is just weird and completely out-of-place, as if confused on what emotion its trying to make you feel.
If this is what you earnestly believe, and not just bait for (you)s, you're one of the dumbest and most autistic people to ever use this website. Imagine watching one of the simplest films ever and getting filtered by the most traditional setup and payoff to happen in a film in years, if not decades. The film literally doesn't work any other way, and I can't begin to imagine the number of times you'd have had to have been dropped on the head as a child to not connect with that.
Nuked Hollywood at just the right time. There has been nothing but flops and then Godzilla drops like a nuke with a shoestring budget and blew them away. It takes what would be a solid 8 up to the 9-10 territory.
>human parts were poorly acted it too overly melodramatic
You're crazy. Everything that took place on the wooden boat was kino, and so was the war room scene.
Worst actor in the film. It always seems they have at least one person acting like they're in a soap opera in Japanese films. Different styles I guess.
Noriko isn't going to die of radiation or she would already be suffering the effects because she would have been burned from the heat and the radiation from a ground burst nuke has a very short range less than the thermal damage. It's the fallout afterwards that gets you if you can't get away or hide from it.
>Noriko isn't going to die of radiation or she would already be suffering the effects because she would have been burned
Go ahead and share your take on why they specifically gave her a decaying black spot on her neck and had the camera focus on it in the final seconds of the scene.
NTA but it's not normal human radiation, it's super special Godzilla radiation. We're left with the same uncertainty of what will happen to her as the first victims of the nuke would have been left with and the same complicated feelings. She could mutate, she could die, we don't know.
That was my take.
>That was my take.
For what it's worth, my first take was it was a mark related to those random kaiju acolyte girls that appear in the cheesy action Godzilla films I've never watched, like a brand. I left the theater thinking that. Radiation sickness from atomic breath has never been a thing in any of the Godzilla films I've seen (54, 98, Monsterverse, Shin, the first 3D Netflix one), so I didn't even consider it until I got home.
This is what I immediately thought, especially as this seems to be the first in a slate wipe for Goji going forward. I think we're gonna see their versions of Mothra and Rodan, etc in other films.
This is the correct take and other anons are midwit morons. It’s black pulsating Godzilla mark— it’s obviously gonna be some fantasy disease shit in the potential sequel. Doesn’t necessarily mean she is going to die. Radiation poisoning melts your whole body it doesnt give you an alien neck spore.
I think whatever pieces or scraps of Godzilla that were falling off him and attached to people makes them revive. This is for the people who were exceedingly lucky enough to survive the Ginza attack. But it probably comes with a heavy price like anything especially since Big G is regenerating deep below the ocean and seems to get stronger
She died from the blast wave but absorbed Godzilla's cells from the black rain and was regenerated.
The Black Mark looked like one of his spines, she will probably develop a psychic connection to him in a sequal.
This is what Ive been reading on Japanese discussions
To make autists like you a little bit more miserable and push you closer to committing suicide so the rest of us can be that much closer to a happy world.
>People with complaints are autistic
This. It's like the film was breathed into existence by God with the express purpose of making normal people happy and mindbreaking mauler and dogfricker types.
I loved it including the human element which is usually the weakest part. The only critique I have is when the main guy is having episodes, reacting to his ptsd, he overacts a little. Some it for just a second looks like someone from a TV series instead of a film. This is my trying to find things to dislike though - The film and Godzilla are likely my favorite iteration of him in decades. He's a real bastard in this one. The atomic breath being like a nuke also felt very inspired. The black rain was an awesome touch. I'm happy to hear that it was made for less than $15mil and it's stomping The Marvels and Wish.
I like parts of the Legendary films, especially Godzilla in the 2014 film, even if the human characters save for Cranston were trash, but Shin has been my favorite until now of the current Goji films. Couldn't get into the CG shows on Netflix, but Minus One is amazing.
Have you seen 54? I liked Shin a lot too, and a thread recommended the original as the closest to it so I bit the B&W bullet and watched it. It's one of my favorites.
I've seen all of them but I was mostly referring to the newer ones as far as the human element. The first Godzilla I ever saw was the edited one with Raymond Burr inserted in. It wasn't until later that I watched Gojira proper. I love both for different reasons. Gojira is superior though for obvious reasons.
One of the best films in years. No, technical shit doesn't matter. Your autistic nitpicking homosexualry doesn't matter. The ending alone makes it a 10/10 bc it spits in the face of the millennial subhuman trash that's been poisoning everything in existence for ages ever since cuckolded American muttlenials took over. Purest kino imaginable. One of the best of the year. It'll eternally trigger the kinds of midwit homosexuals that read dogshit like berserk as a way to cope with their cucked midwit failure lives, and it's blessed for that.
Japan deserved Godzilla for their war crimes. Remember Pearl Harbor.
2p, dumbest post
I was very sick leading up to it, I was worried I would not get to see it. I'm glad I did, it was epic.
9/10 movie
It's a blockbuster flick, not art, and that's okay.
I was blown away
Just saw it. Legitimately a nearly flawless film, and exactly what Godzilla should be. I haven't seen every Godzilla movie but if anyone can suggest one that's better than Minus One, I'd love to see it
>nearly flawless film
The ending was a little weak.
>"Look, the girl you thought died actually survived! (And is about to die anyways to radiation poisoning)"
>"All that effort and sacrifice worked, you killed Godzilla! (For like 3 seconds)"
The latter point should have been the beginning of a sequel, not the end of an isolated movie. The former is just weird and completely out-of-place, as if confused on what emotion its trying to make you feel. They didn't even finish resolving the joy of reunion before demonstrating its useless and she's still going die, but neither of them realize that and they keep the scene upbeat and happy and joyous while focusing on her black spot.
Ultimately an incredible film that I loved from start to finish, but those two points hold it back from being flawless.
People surviving at first but ultimately dying from radiation poisoning is the reality of nuclear weapons. What are you supposed to feel? Conflicted, bittersweet, hopeless.
>What are you supposed to feel?
The thing is, they finished the mc's character arc. He resolved himself through all the deaths and decided to live for the kid's sake. It was conclusive and a stronger finish to end it there. Bringing Noriko back with the sneak peek of imminent death is indeed just evocative of nuclear consequences, but it wasn't paced right to properly convey it. It was a happy ending reunion scene with a sudden "gatcha!" It undermined the reunion, but it was also 30 seconds after already thinking she's dead, so her dying again lacked any emotional punch. In addition to that, it was Godzilla radiation instead of man's. A natural disaster instead of a preventable one, which further blunts the message. I just don't feel like it was handled right, both for his character arc and that message.
Where does it say it was radiation poisoning?
I think the stuff on her neck was how she survived in the first place, somehow she got Godzilla's healing factor from like exposure or something? I'm not sure the movie doesn't make it explicit, it's a sequel cliffhanger, but that was my interpretation, not that she was radiation poisoned and gonna die anyway. that's the first time I've heard that interpretation.
Great movie, first act felt a little off for some reason but everything from the first Goji attack onwards was fantastic.
Super glad no-one died in the final fight, the whole theme of Japan being too willing to throw lives away and that you don't need to self-sacrifice to win was something I haven't seen in a movie like this. I do wish that if films wanted to have a character survive they wouldn't kill them. Noriko was DEAD, they should have shot it in a slightly more ambiguous way..
The 'Godzilla isn't actually dead lol' teaser is such a traditional part of the movies now they can't not do it. There might not even end up being a sequel.
>I do wish that if films wanted to have a character survive they wouldn't kill them. Noriko was DEAD, they should have shot it in a slightly more ambiguous way.
Absolutely trash taste. Never speak on films again.
Anyone that has a problem with Noriko living is the exact type of subhuman to whom not just films but all forms of media and art need to stop pandering and start trying to actively alienate.
>The former is just weird and completely out-of-place, as if confused on what emotion its trying to make you feel.
If this is what you earnestly believe, and not just bait for (you)s, you're one of the dumbest and most autistic people to ever use this website. Imagine watching one of the simplest films ever and getting filtered by the most traditional setup and payoff to happen in a film in years, if not decades. The film literally doesn't work any other way, and I can't begin to imagine the number of times you'd have had to have been dropped on the head as a child to not connect with that.
Nuked Hollywood at just the right time. There has been nothing but flops and then Godzilla drops like a nuke with a shoestring budget and blew them away. It takes what would be a solid 8 up to the 9-10 territory.
9/10
Godzilla parts were kino
human parts were poorly acted it too overly melodramatic
>human parts were poorly acted it too overly melodramatic
Is this your first Godzilla film?
>no, you don't get it, it's not bad if it's supposed to be shit
>human parts were poorly acted it too overly melodramatic
You're crazy. Everything that took place on the wooden boat was kino, and so was the war room scene.
I need him at my workplace.
Worst actor in the film. It always seems they have at least one person acting like they're in a soap opera in Japanese films. Different styles I guess.
Flawless, Movie of the year.
People with complaints are autistic
Noriko isn't going to die of radiation or she would already be suffering the effects because she would have been burned from the heat and the radiation from a ground burst nuke has a very short range less than the thermal damage. It's the fallout afterwards that gets you if you can't get away or hide from it.
>Noriko isn't going to die of radiation or she would already be suffering the effects because she would have been burned
Go ahead and share your take on why they specifically gave her a decaying black spot on her neck and had the camera focus on it in the final seconds of the scene.
NTA but it's not normal human radiation, it's super special Godzilla radiation. We're left with the same uncertainty of what will happen to her as the first victims of the nuke would have been left with and the same complicated feelings. She could mutate, she could die, we don't know.
That was my take.
>That was my take.
For what it's worth, my first take was it was a mark related to those random kaiju acolyte girls that appear in the cheesy action Godzilla films I've never watched, like a brand. I left the theater thinking that. Radiation sickness from atomic breath has never been a thing in any of the Godzilla films I've seen (54, 98, Monsterverse, Shin, the first 3D Netflix one), so I didn't even consider it until I got home.
This is what I immediately thought, especially as this seems to be the first in a slate wipe for Goji going forward. I think we're gonna see their versions of Mothra and Rodan, etc in other films.
>Radiation sickness from atomic breath has never been a thing in any of the Godzilla films I've seen
This is the correct take and other anons are midwit morons. It’s black pulsating Godzilla mark— it’s obviously gonna be some fantasy disease shit in the potential sequel. Doesn’t necessarily mean she is going to die. Radiation poisoning melts your whole body it doesnt give you an alien neck spore.
I think whatever pieces or scraps of Godzilla that were falling off him and attached to people makes them revive. This is for the people who were exceedingly lucky enough to survive the Ginza attack. But it probably comes with a heavy price like anything especially since Big G is regenerating deep below the ocean and seems to get stronger
She died from the blast wave but absorbed Godzilla's cells from the black rain and was regenerated.
The Black Mark looked like one of his spines, she will probably develop a psychic connection to him in a sequal.
This is what Ive been reading on Japanese discussions
To make autists like you a little bit more miserable and push you closer to committing suicide so the rest of us can be that much closer to a happy world.
she probably has godzilla wolverine tier contamination, not tissue liquifying radiation poisoning.
>People with complaints are autistic
This. It's like the film was breathed into existence by God with the express purpose of making normal people happy and mindbreaking mauler and dogfricker types.
I loved it including the human element which is usually the weakest part. The only critique I have is when the main guy is having episodes, reacting to his ptsd, he overacts a little. Some it for just a second looks like someone from a TV series instead of a film. This is my trying to find things to dislike though - The film and Godzilla are likely my favorite iteration of him in decades. He's a real bastard in this one. The atomic breath being like a nuke also felt very inspired. The black rain was an awesome touch. I'm happy to hear that it was made for less than $15mil and it's stomping The Marvels and Wish.
Certainly worth going to the theater for. I did the same for KotM but nodded off multiple times. That one I regret spending money on.
I like parts of the Legendary films, especially Godzilla in the 2014 film, even if the human characters save for Cranston were trash, but Shin has been my favorite until now of the current Goji films. Couldn't get into the CG shows on Netflix, but Minus One is amazing.
Have you seen 54? I liked Shin a lot too, and a thread recommended the original as the closest to it so I bit the B&W bullet and watched it. It's one of my favorites.
I've seen all of them but I was mostly referring to the newer ones as far as the human element. The first Godzilla I ever saw was the edited one with Raymond Burr inserted in. It wasn't until later that I watched Gojira proper. I love both for different reasons. Gojira is superior though for obvious reasons.
very enjoyable moviegoing experience and I haven't had one of those since before the last Jedi, so something like six years
Absolute kino for a godzilla movie. I even managed to tolerate traditional japanese "acting".
It ticked all the simple boxes and worked.
One of the best films in years. No, technical shit doesn't matter. Your autistic nitpicking homosexualry doesn't matter. The ending alone makes it a 10/10 bc it spits in the face of the millennial subhuman trash that's been poisoning everything in existence for ages ever since cuckolded American muttlenials took over. Purest kino imaginable. One of the best of the year. It'll eternally trigger the kinds of midwit homosexuals that read dogshit like berserk as a way to cope with their cucked midwit failure lives, and it's blessed for that.
Jesus dude you must be very miserable if this is how you express your positive emotions about something.
You tell 'em
>It'll eternally trigger the kinds of midwit homosexuals that read dogshit like berserk
Now wait a minute
Shin Godzilla was better.
The plan they make to kill him works a lot better than the blood coagulated in Shin and them throwing in the Shinden is just extremely based