>gets diagnosed with a disease that causes aggressive bowel obstructions and was frequently fatal at the time >4 years later dies of a bowel obstruction
this is truly 44D chess by Speilberg what a coincidence.
1. ex-Child-stars have told CDAN that Steven Spielberg molested kids on Michael Jackson's Neverland Ranch.
https://archive.fo/0tr1D
2. All the child stars in Spielberg's films have "they were molested" written into their backgrounds. All of the childhood stars he contacted were unnerved when they looked back on it.
3. Michael Jackson must have found out as he paid a witch doctor $100k+ to place curses on Spielberg and David Geffen (also a well known pedophile). https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/jackson-paid-witch-doctor-to-put-curse-on-spielberg-121369.html
1. ex-Child-stars have told CDAN that Steven Spielberg molested kids on Michael Jackson's Neverland Ranch.
https://archive.fo/0tr1D
2. All the child stars in Spielberg's films have "they were molested" written into their backgrounds. All of the childhood stars he contacted were unnerved when they looked back on it.
3. Michael Jackson must have found out as he paid a witch doctor $100k+ to place curses on Spielberg and David Geffen (also a well known pedophile). https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/jackson-paid-witch-doctor-to-put-curse-on-spielberg-121369.html
It is true that people who commit terrible crimes have an innate desire to confess, and gain a psychological thrill from declaring their crimes in hidden ways, like the boy-love swirl symbol being worn on israeliteelry or displayed in art. But you're right, making a movie referencing your love of child rape is a bold move that few have tried before.
It really doesn't need to be too terribly elaborate, after all, we live in a world where Jimmy Savile existed. We live in a world where the entirety of government-funded British television covered for a known child rapist, going so far to keep his child-friendly entertainer image alive that they not only gave him a never-ending fresh supply of child co-stars, they gave him 24-hour access to children's hospitals (including requested morgue access) and access to shelters/orphanages just to keep the image alive for their own sake. This is not a myth, this is not an exaggeration, it happened.
Tell you what, I'll give you hard, sterling, undeniable evidence that Spielberg and his buddies sodomized that girl, if you can give me one good reason to believe they didn't, given everything hollywood has shown itself to be.
because there's no evidence they did or had any sexual contact with her at any point
2 years ago
Anonymous
>according to institutions that have a history of not blowing the whistle on child sexual abuse, there was no evidence of child sexual abuse in this case.
Agreed and thats literal fact but like 90%. For example Spielberg and Lucas went to Hawaii for a week during filming. Hooper said during that time the film itself got more "intense." I don't know what scenes and would've guessed the mirror but those are actually Spielbergs hands.
Spielberg co-directed the film. He wasn’t legally allowed to direct another film since he was already doing E.T. so he hired Tobe Hooper and gave him full credit. In reality the entire story and script was Spielberg’s idea and he still exerted tons of creative control since he was frequently on set. To this day he claims he didn’t direct it at all, but every time he mentions the movie he claims that it’s his creation. So yes he co-directed it
Original premise actually came from Hooper, and Hooper was even right beside Spielberg contributing his ideas when Spielberg wrote the shooting script.
Spielberg had already been wanting to do a ghost story for a while. Poltergeist continues a lot of the same themes as Close Encounters and has the same suburban overtones of ET. And again I’m just basing this off his own testimony. He always describes Poltergeist as “my film”
Good call. Kinda the same movies except outerspace vs "innerspace"
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah exactly, I always saw Poltergeist as a continuation of those films. Sort of an inversion of ET where instead of suburban whimsy from a visitor that comes from above, it’s suburban horror from things that haunt them from below
Nah, a haunted house story was the farthest thing from Spielberg’s mind when he approached Hooper to direct an alien horror film called NIGHT SKIES. Hooper was the one who was talking to parapsychologists since working under William Friedkin and trying to mount a ghost story inspired by his own poltergeist experience.
Certainly Spielberg offered the suburban milieu, but the idea of buried history and the fascination with the afterlife is likely Hooper’s input.
2 years ago
Anonymous
This doesn’t disprove the idea that he co-directed it. Just makes it more apparent that he developed the film with Hooper. I think his creative input is too substantial to ignore and credit solely to Hooper.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Certainly we should give Spielberg his due in creatively being involved. It has been far exaggerated in his favor, though, and in disregard of the fact Hooper was legitimately conspired against by the studio (as he sued and won).
1. Jerry Goldsmith exclusively worked with Spielberg instead of the credited director for the only time in his entire career.
2. Zelda the psychic exclusively worked with Spielberg instead of the credited director who "sat in the corner doing drugs" which I assume means smoking a joint.
3. Literally every single shot that Tobe set up was immediately changed by Spielberg. I don't remember who said that but I remember he quote.
4. Spielberg was on the set every single day except the one week he went to Hawaii with Lucas. As I recall. But I very specifically remember Tobe Hoopers quote about what a big deal it was that he was gone.
5. This is all legal testimony. The directors guild flipped their shit and dragged everyone in for sworn testimony. That's how obvious it was that Spielberg directed it.
1. Many films are essentially scored by their producers. Back in the old studio days, directors directed so many films a year they pretty much entrusted much of the post-production finishing touches to the studio.
2. Zelda Rubinstein waffled on her comments and certainly has found little corroboration to her ad hominem attacks on Hooper from her cast mates. She later said, “I found Tobe set up every shot, and then Steven came in and made final adjustments. So I think it was a split decision.” Split decision =/= Spielberg changed everything Hooper set up.
3. See above. If all Spielberg could do was “make adjustments” from Hooper’s foundation, that’s no way to make a film feel like your own, and it doesn’t. The film shares a lot of similarities to the more distant and clinical framing and atmosphere of Hooper’s work.
4. Actors do not remember Spielberg as much as others like to claim. Spielberg may have been there every day, but he was not always concerning himself with Hooper’s 1st Unit. Rather, Spielberg likely had to prep FX unit scenes and 2nd Unit, considering he acted as the film’s self-designated line producer. Lots of anecdotes of Spielberg just wandering in at the end of the day to check up on Hooper’s progress.
5. That’s unequivocally false. The DGA Investigation only occurred because they took it as a union issue that the studio was actively trying to sell the film as a Spielberg film and demeaning Hooper’s credit. It was on behalf of Hooper’s grievances that they launched the investigation, not the idea that any “secret directing” happened.
“And while Tobe directed me, every conceivable scene on the set, Steven was there always contributing his input, into script, into story… I've written things for television and I've wanted to put my two-cents in. And directors always confer with me on what I wanted to do. But in terms of who told me what to do on the set, where to stand, how the film was going to be shot, as a kid, I remember Tobe doing everything a director should do and needs to do. And the DGA even looked into it years later, I guess, and they confirmed everything that I saw on set, too.”
“I basically had the same experience. On the first day of shooting something happened, and I've talked about it, so even when the DGA looked into it... it was the scene with the special effects on the little teapot again. That first day, Tobe would whisper something in our ear and then they would yell action and we would do the scene. Then Steven would yell cut and Steven would come around and whisper something in our ear. And that went on for about six minutes and Beatrice Straight said: 'One director, please. This has got to stop.' And it went on literally for about six or seven minutes - you know, a half an hour at the very most - and she just said, 'That's not how we do this. We have one director around here.' And after that, Tobe did everything. Steven had lots of input. Like Oliver said, it was his script. I mean, yeah... it was Tobe.”
A genuinely fun movie to watch once blind and then never again. Not Spielberg's best work, but worth a watch. Compare that to Jurassic Park, which is fun to watch countless times.
It's quite good, Spielberg (the real director) around his peak.
Just after Zelda delivers her speech, there's a certain medium shot I like, in the upstairs hallroom space. It runs about two minutes or so and it "feels" like shots are being cut, but if you pay attention you see it's one continuous shot. Camera moves up and down, in-and-out just a bit to the various interactions between the characters.
Some classic tropes (not all original to this flick, but several repeated/popularlized here): >Indian Burial Ground >Dog can sense ghosts, humans are oblivious >Medicine cabinet scare gag
watched this yesterday and it holds up, shit gets real faster than i remembered too with the tree eating the kid, tangina is the best character based pint sized southern pyschic. good movie.
great, but wish they focused more on just disturbing elements
the scene where the camera pans and suddenly all the chairs are stacked on the kitchen table is much creepier than the fricking tree / clown doll coming alive, shit is kinda silly
Classic film
If I had any edit skills I'd put
On the TV
Heather a cute
Pity Spielberg killed her
>gets diagnosed with a disease that causes aggressive bowel obstructions and was frequently fatal at the time
>4 years later dies of a bowel obstruction
this is truly 44D chess by Speilberg what a coincidence.
qrd?
1. ex-Child-stars have told CDAN that Steven Spielberg molested kids on Michael Jackson's Neverland Ranch.
https://archive.fo/0tr1D
2. All the child stars in Spielberg's films have "they were molested" written into their backgrounds. All of the childhood stars he contacted were unnerved when they looked back on it.
3. Michael Jackson must have found out as he paid a witch doctor $100k+ to place curses on Spielberg and David Geffen (also a well known pedophile). https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/jackson-paid-witch-doctor-to-put-curse-on-spielberg-121369.html
>died at 12
sad
That film is literally haunted.
how?
I think it's in reference to the death of Heather O'Rourke, if not I'd like to know too.
>Satan tells people to believe Hollywood doctors and covers for Hollywood knowing full well what child actors go through
not shocking tbh.
>I think it's in reference to the death of Heather O'Rourke
Spielkino dapping on the child he raped to death?
Based if true
It is true that people who commit terrible crimes have an innate desire to confess, and gain a psychological thrill from declaring their crimes in hidden ways, like the boy-love swirl symbol being worn on israeliteelry or displayed in art. But you're right, making a movie referencing your love of child rape is a bold move that few have tried before.
do you have any evidence covers invented her condition and falsified records/witnesses and thousands of other things for this elaborate plan?
It really doesn't need to be too terribly elaborate, after all, we live in a world where Jimmy Savile existed. We live in a world where the entirety of government-funded British television covered for a known child rapist, going so far to keep his child-friendly entertainer image alive that they not only gave him a never-ending fresh supply of child co-stars, they gave him 24-hour access to children's hospitals (including requested morgue access) and access to shelters/orphanages just to keep the image alive for their own sake. This is not a myth, this is not an exaggeration, it happened.
Tell you what, I'll give you hard, sterling, undeniable evidence that Spielberg and his buddies sodomized that girl, if you can give me one good reason to believe they didn't, given everything hollywood has shown itself to be.
because there's no evidence they did or had any sexual contact with her at any point
>according to institutions that have a history of not blowing the whistle on child sexual abuse, there was no evidence of child sexual abuse in this case.
I've got a bridge I'd like to sell you.
Ok so tl;dr you have no evidence. Typical projecting Trump-loving homosexual
Tell me more
what did tv think of Night Trap? it's kinda tv related
can't even classify it as a game. how the frick are you supposed to play it?
There's a lets play on Youtube. Looks kind of boring, but it was really controversial when it came out.
TELL US WHAT YOU DID, STEVEN
That Spielberg directed it and used Tobe Hooper as a beard which is supported by legal testimony and evidence on the screen.
There's no way it was all Spielberg
Agreed and thats literal fact but like 90%. For example Spielberg and Lucas went to Hawaii for a week during filming. Hooper said during that time the film itself got more "intense." I don't know what scenes and would've guessed the mirror but those are actually Spielbergs hands.
Spielberg co-directed the film. He wasn’t legally allowed to direct another film since he was already doing E.T. so he hired Tobe Hooper and gave him full credit. In reality the entire story and script was Spielberg’s idea and he still exerted tons of creative control since he was frequently on set. To this day he claims he didn’t direct it at all, but every time he mentions the movie he claims that it’s his creation. So yes he co-directed it
Original premise actually came from Hooper, and Hooper was even right beside Spielberg contributing his ideas when Spielberg wrote the shooting script.
Spielberg had already been wanting to do a ghost story for a while. Poltergeist continues a lot of the same themes as Close Encounters and has the same suburban overtones of ET. And again I’m just basing this off his own testimony. He always describes Poltergeist as “my film”
Good call. Kinda the same movies except outerspace vs "innerspace"
Yeah exactly, I always saw Poltergeist as a continuation of those films. Sort of an inversion of ET where instead of suburban whimsy from a visitor that comes from above, it’s suburban horror from things that haunt them from below
Nah, a haunted house story was the farthest thing from Spielberg’s mind when he approached Hooper to direct an alien horror film called NIGHT SKIES. Hooper was the one who was talking to parapsychologists since working under William Friedkin and trying to mount a ghost story inspired by his own poltergeist experience.
Certainly Spielberg offered the suburban milieu, but the idea of buried history and the fascination with the afterlife is likely Hooper’s input.
This doesn’t disprove the idea that he co-directed it. Just makes it more apparent that he developed the film with Hooper. I think his creative input is too substantial to ignore and credit solely to Hooper.
Certainly we should give Spielberg his due in creatively being involved. It has been far exaggerated in his favor, though, and in disregard of the fact Hooper was legitimately conspired against by the studio (as he sued and won).
1. Jerry Goldsmith exclusively worked with Spielberg instead of the credited director for the only time in his entire career.
2. Zelda the psychic exclusively worked with Spielberg instead of the credited director who "sat in the corner doing drugs" which I assume means smoking a joint.
3. Literally every single shot that Tobe set up was immediately changed by Spielberg. I don't remember who said that but I remember he quote.
4. Spielberg was on the set every single day except the one week he went to Hawaii with Lucas. As I recall. But I very specifically remember Tobe Hoopers quote about what a big deal it was that he was gone.
5. This is all legal testimony. The directors guild flipped their shit and dragged everyone in for sworn testimony. That's how obvious it was that Spielberg directed it.
1. Many films are essentially scored by their producers. Back in the old studio days, directors directed so many films a year they pretty much entrusted much of the post-production finishing touches to the studio.
2. Zelda Rubinstein waffled on her comments and certainly has found little corroboration to her ad hominem attacks on Hooper from her cast mates. She later said, “I found Tobe set up every shot, and then Steven came in and made final adjustments. So I think it was a split decision.” Split decision =/= Spielberg changed everything Hooper set up.
3. See above. If all Spielberg could do was “make adjustments” from Hooper’s foundation, that’s no way to make a film feel like your own, and it doesn’t. The film shares a lot of similarities to the more distant and clinical framing and atmosphere of Hooper’s work.
4. Actors do not remember Spielberg as much as others like to claim. Spielberg may have been there every day, but he was not always concerning himself with Hooper’s 1st Unit. Rather, Spielberg likely had to prep FX unit scenes and 2nd Unit, considering he acted as the film’s self-designated line producer. Lots of anecdotes of Spielberg just wandering in at the end of the day to check up on Hooper’s progress.
5. That’s unequivocally false. The DGA Investigation only occurred because they took it as a union issue that the studio was actively trying to sell the film as a Spielberg film and demeaning Hooper’s credit. It was on behalf of Hooper’s grievances that they launched the investigation, not the idea that any “secret directing” happened.
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Legal testimony? I don’t think so.
“And while Tobe directed me, every conceivable scene on the set, Steven was there always contributing his input, into script, into story… I've written things for television and I've wanted to put my two-cents in. And directors always confer with me on what I wanted to do. But in terms of who told me what to do on the set, where to stand, how the film was going to be shot, as a kid, I remember Tobe doing everything a director should do and needs to do. And the DGA even looked into it years later, I guess, and they confirmed everything that I saw on set, too.”
“I basically had the same experience. On the first day of shooting something happened, and I've talked about it, so even when the DGA looked into it... it was the scene with the special effects on the little teapot again. That first day, Tobe would whisper something in our ear and then they would yell action and we would do the scene. Then Steven would yell cut and Steven would come around and whisper something in our ear. And that went on for about six minutes and Beatrice Straight said: 'One director, please. This has got to stop.' And it went on literally for about six or seven minutes - you know, a half an hour at the very most - and she just said, 'That's not how we do this. We have one director around here.' And after that, Tobe did everything. Steven had lots of input. Like Oliver said, it was his script. I mean, yeah... it was Tobe.”
How does kinography sound
A genuinely fun movie to watch once blind and then never again. Not Spielberg's best work, but worth a watch. Compare that to Jurassic Park, which is fun to watch countless times.
It's quite good, Spielberg (the real director) around his peak.
Just after Zelda delivers her speech, there's a certain medium shot I like, in the upstairs hallroom space. It runs about two minutes or so and it "feels" like shots are being cut, but if you pay attention you see it's one continuous shot. Camera moves up and down, in-and-out just a bit to the various interactions between the characters.
Some classic tropes (not all original to this flick, but several repeated/popularlized here):
>Indian Burial Ground
>Dog can sense ghosts, humans are oblivious
>Medicine cabinet scare gag
watched this yesterday and it holds up, shit gets real faster than i remembered too with the tree eating the kid, tangina is the best character based pint sized southern pyschic. good movie.
scared the shit out of me as a kid, haven't watched it since
>this thread is clean
freaked me the frick out.
DEY HEA
Really good in the first half, goes overboard ludicrous in the second.
Really enjoyable and absolutely still holds up. Great cast as well and Dominique Dunne and JoBeth Williams are hot as hell in it.
Scared me so much I wasn't allowed to go see Ghostbusters. I cried all night.
I shudder to think how much wienerpipe that little girl took.
great, but wish they focused more on just disturbing elements
the scene where the camera pans and suddenly all the chairs are stacked on the kitchen table is much creepier than the fricking tree / clown doll coming alive, shit is kinda silly
I really dislike the parents in the film, which spoils my viewing pleasure.