One of the most enjoyable horror movies to date.
It's more enjoyable if you watch it with someone than alone.
But then again I've enjoyed most of the rest of Ti West's horror movies.
Mia Goth is the shit and everyone did a good job saying the lines but the story was missing something unique other than "TCM but slow old people" and it was a little too polished for the era. End song was kino.
Wish it was about the (very good) cast driving around Texas shooting porn and debating sexual revolution topics instead of whatever moronic tongue in cheek chainsaw massacre homage thing it did
Marathoning this now and just want to predict that the gator is going to be involved at the end, probably killing off one of the old frickers
I will come back and be smug about my correct but extremely obvious prediction
Actually just watched it. Boring. Not frightening in the slightest, and a poor excuse to showcase miscegenation and disgusting sex between aged people. Would not recommend. 1/10.
Good cinematography, good setting, good acting (particularly Mia as the pornstar, also good as old lady) but also encumbered by woke inanities, which are pushed to the point of parody (le well-endowed black men fricks all the women but he's also a good guy; le old white racist; le subversion of Christian values etc).
It's a 4.5/10 worth watching but not paying for.
It doesn't start right away but the build-up is enjoyable, particularly the incursion of Mia walking around, swimming at the lake with the alligator suspense scene and a shot showing her beautiful ass
It's very unsubtle in the way there's a deliberate stereotypical bias for the black guy, against religion and again the old white guy.
Do watch it because it works as a horror movie, set pieces are nice, there are some interesting touches here and there and Ti knows the tropes well. There'll be a prequel btw, already filmed
I hate forcefed woke shit as much as the next reasonable person but X's interracial stuff wasn't remotely woke in execution. These were real characters.
I'll have to watch it and see for myself.
Based. The only thing horrifying about TCM is how completely unengaging and uninspired it is. I did not even twitch at a single scene.
>uninspired
That's why countless movies are still ripping it off to this day, right?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>countless movies
Yes. This is confirmation that it was a stupid trash film for Black personbrains.
It's not 'woke' at all. People see black person and interracial sex and automatically think that's 'woke'.
Mandingo porn from the '70s and blaxploitation wasn't woke at all.
I hate forcefed woke shit as much as the next reasonable person but X's interracial stuff wasn't remotely woke in execution. These were real characters.
It's very unsubtle in the way there's a deliberate stereotypical bias for the black guy, against religion and again the old white guy.
Do watch it because it works as a horror movie, set pieces are nice, there are some interesting touches here and there and Ti knows the tropes well. There'll be a prequel btw, already filmed
I only consider something "woke" if it's left wing politics inserted into the movie at the expense of it's artistic vision or quality
A bunch of 70's porn stars having liberal views of sex is not 'woke', it's realistic for their characters. What else would they be, Christian conservatives?
The movie isn't really woke
it does suck though
A solid quasi-return to form for Ti West, but nowhere near as good as The House of the Devil. All his other movies besides those two aren't even worth talking about, in my opinion.
Ti West is fricking great. His stuff always straddles the line between cringe, comfy, and scary. And he understands how to ramp up a chaotic third act. When they're period pieces they always come across as authentic.
I actually rank it really high on my list of favourite horror movies.
It captures the essentials of the genre for me very well.
I guess everyone has different expectations for horror, but I like the M.R. James/Ramsey Campbell type stories the best where characters don't know they're transgressing some unknown contract or overstepping some dangerous invisible line then meet an abrupt and cruel end before they have time to realize their fatal error.
I actually rank it really high on my list of favourite horror movies.
It captures the essentials of the genre for me very well.
I guess everyone has different expectations for horror, but I like the M.R. James/Ramsey Campbell type stories the best where characters don't know they're transgressing some unknown contract or overstepping some dangerous invisible line then meet an abrupt and cruel end before they have time to realize their fatal error.
The girl was cute but the movie was arguably boring. I in fact love his 2009 feature The House Of The Devil.
Victorian ghost stories are frankly superior to modern horror stories.
Innkeepers was sort of a fusion between the two since the third act turns into your more conventional horror movie.
The fleeting glimpses of strange, unexplainable phenomenon from the corner of your eye with disturbing ramifications are much better than grotesque creature features. That's why I liked Lake Mungo as well.
They're not the same, so don't expect them to be similar at all. Lake Mungo is more a traditional Victorian ghost story (Appointment at Samara, The Signalman by Dickens, William Wilson by Edgar Allan Poe). The Innkeepers is more an M.R. James/Ramsey Campbell type cautionary tale that has medieval roots (see an Internet Story).
What part of "You and I have nothing to discuss" didn't you understand?
Don't talk to you or your son again?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Don't talk to you or your son again?
Or my cousin and his dog.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The cover on the right looks unbearably B-grade. Probably why i didn't watch it. Also zoomers.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I heard the second one wasn't too good so you didn't miss out
2 years ago
Anonymous
I still really like it. Not as good as the first, but still decent compared to sequels that tend to fall flat on their face.
Great setting (that sadly doesn't really exist), and some nice twists.
It tries too hard to be campy and ends up as sort of a failed parody of the first, and all the characters become caricatures, but really only descends to cringe at one point (street fighter parody moment).
I would watch a third if they made it.
>cuckolding >white guy dies the arguably the pointful death >black guy gets to frick all the white girls >black guy dies the quickest death >le granny porn >brittanys snows breasts were meh
3/10
Ti West, The guy who made you're next etc were going to bring a Renaissance of horror. What happened? How did Eggers and onions horror took over? Why did fresher , interesting and bloodier horror die out? Is only A24 to blame? >the real horror is mental illnessllness/psychological
Frick off. You're not first to have the idea and you do the least with this. Psychological horror is not a new creation.
I have The Guest on blu-ray. No streaming service will take it away from me, nor will my computer fail and a digital copy be lost. Frick compressed streaming. Based physical media for life!
Strangely, a lot of promising horror directors stalled. Perhaps there were financial reasons, some went into tv series, others did soulless mainstream remakes. Examples:
-Lian Gavin, released A Dark Song 6 years ago
-Kevin Kölsch/Dennis Widmyer, Starry Eyes was released 8 years ago
-Gerard Johnstone, HouseBound (2014)
At least Ti did a horror movie that, despite its flaws, is bold and has good production values.
>Why did fresher , interesting and bloodier horror die out?
Because people realized fake blood is fake, and slashers are the most formulaic movies ever made, once you've seen one you've seen all of them.
Any movie that tries something new is at least more promising and interesting, even if it turns out to be shit. Adding a cuck storyline and Scary Movie-tier jokes to same old shit is not a great way to innovate either
I thought it was kind of shit. None of the build up seemed to pay off well.
At the beginning where the cops are investigating the place and the black sheriff was like "...My God...", I expected a sight of absolute horror, like all the characters decapitated with their heads assembling some grisly shrine or some shit.
Instead it was anticlimactically shown to be, what, a single fricking dead guy hung up by hooks? I feel like most cops could see that sort of crime scene and not even blink. Also to me a staple of horror movies is supposed to be the characters knowing they're being hunted and being powerless to fight back against the killers.
In this movie pretty much all the characters die specifically because they're completely trusting of the elderly killers and don't know what's going on, which is kind of lame as frick. Then as soon as the surviving characters do fight back the killers get done in by the most moronic deus ex machinas possible, cardiac arrest and breaking your hip from a shotgun kickback.
And the cinematography and shot composition didn't feel like it was doing anything special either, most of the editing felt hammy and forced. Ultimately thought it was a waste of time.
You know the concept of 'level squish' in mmos?
Ti West does sort of a 'gore squish'. His stuff is conventional and subdued but by design. It adds to the sense of realism because realistically a cop in real life isn't going to see a mutilated strung up guy in the basement ever, maybe only once in their life.
Some movies do follow the 'characters know they're being hunted' playbook, but a lot of them don't. Both work for different reasons. Hitchwiener for example veered in the opposite direction by emphasizing dramatic irony. You can see that Ti West is riffing on/parodying dramatic irony because he never lets the dramatic tension being fully realized before deflating it. Again, it's by design and it's his playful sort of style, it could come across as amateurish if you're not aware of what he's doing, but he's basically going "see, I could do this, but I'll do something unexpected instead".
As for the elderly, I think it's bring in another form of horror. People not horrified by the gore and blood and guts can still be grossed out by naked old people fricking or trying to hit on young people. It's just supposed to feel like grindhouse and shocking.
X reminds me of two very different horror movies/stories.
First is Tourist Trap.
The second is the short story "The Fear" by Richard Harland.
Again they're nothing alike in style or conclusion but they occupy the same country.
I knew by the trailer it wasn't worth watching.
I promised my friend I would in exchange for her watching Rome
So far there's a seductress old lady killer, that's fun
I'd have sex with grandmothers
One of the most enjoyable horror movies to date.
It's more enjoyable if you watch it with someone than alone.
But then again I've enjoyed most of the rest of Ti West's horror movies.
Mia Goth is the shit and everyone did a good job saying the lines but the story was missing something unique other than "TCM but slow old people" and it was a little too polished for the era. End song was kino.
>Interracial shit
>Villain monster is an old lady
Shite and boring movie overall
Wish it was about the (very good) cast driving around Texas shooting porn and debating sexual revolution topics instead of whatever moronic tongue in cheek chainsaw massacre homage thing it did
Even Kid Cudi did a good job
cuck porn slasher
literally
There is literally no reason whatsoever to watch this movie. It has nothing going on
Marathoning this now and just want to predict that the gator is going to be involved at the end, probably killing off one of the old frickers
I will come back and be smug about my correct but extremely obvious prediction
you are almost correct, 9/11
>Marathoning a single movie
Are you moronic?
Actually just watched it. Boring. Not frightening in the slightest, and a poor excuse to showcase miscegenation and disgusting sex between aged people. Would not recommend. 1/10.
Is granny/younger woman the greatest most high iq patrician fetish there is?
I don't even know if there's another person on my plane
like the movie itself, it's derivative, but of mother/daughter fetish porn
They should have called it Dark Horse Heroes to begin with. Comics' Greatest World is the most pretentious brand name.
Comedy horror is the lowest form of cinema.
Musicals
At least they have the goose with la la land.
Musicals require dancing, composing music, playing it and singing. They shit all over comedy horror a thousand times, and I don't even like musicals.
Good cinematography, good setting, good acting (particularly Mia as the pornstar, also good as old lady) but also encumbered by woke inanities, which are pushed to the point of parody (le well-endowed black men fricks all the women but he's also a good guy; le old white racist; le subversion of Christian values etc).
It's a 4.5/10 worth watching but not paying for.
How obnoxious is the wokeshit? That always turns me away but I love Texas Chain Saw and the subgenre it inspired, so I'll watch X if it isn't too bad
>Texas Chain Saw
Somehow X managed to be far more underwhelming than that snooze fest, so you'll probably enjoy it.
>tcm
>snoozefest
It isn't a snoozefest at all, it starts up faster than 99% of other horror movies
liar im watching it now, it's super slow and boring
Based. The only thing horrifying about TCM is how completely unengaging and uninspired it is. I did not even twitch at a single scene.
It doesn't start right away but the build-up is enjoyable, particularly the incursion of Mia walking around, swimming at the lake with the alligator suspense scene and a shot showing her beautiful ass
I'll have to watch it and see for myself.
>uninspired
That's why countless movies are still ripping it off to this day, right?
>countless movies
Yes. This is confirmation that it was a stupid trash film for Black personbrains.
It's not 'woke' at all. People see black person and interracial sex and automatically think that's 'woke'.
Mandingo porn from the '70s and blaxploitation wasn't woke at all.
I hate forcefed woke shit as much as the next reasonable person but X's interracial stuff wasn't remotely woke in execution. These were real characters.
It's very unsubtle in the way there's a deliberate stereotypical bias for the black guy, against religion and again the old white guy.
Do watch it because it works as a horror movie, set pieces are nice, there are some interesting touches here and there and Ti knows the tropes well. There'll be a prequel btw, already filmed
Creepy old rapist granny is a fun villain
Mediocre movie though. But how good could it have been
not bad, made me a lil horny
Jenna Ortega owes me sex.
Yes
I only consider something "woke" if it's left wing politics inserted into the movie at the expense of it's artistic vision or quality
A bunch of 70's porn stars having liberal views of sex is not 'woke', it's realistic for their characters. What else would they be, Christian conservatives?
The movie isn't really woke
it does suck though
I was expecting a horror movie with realistic sex scenes
I only watched to see the cute girl get her breasts out but she never did. Can't believe I wasted my time watching this cuck shit
A solid quasi-return to form for Ti West, but nowhere near as good as The House of the Devil. All his other movies besides those two aren't even worth talking about, in my opinion.
Ti West is fricking great. His stuff always straddles the line between cringe, comfy, and scary. And he understands how to ramp up a chaotic third act. When they're period pieces they always come across as authentic.
That movie was hot garbage tho.
it was but sara paxton is a fricking cute
Balls deep on her for sure.
I actually rank it really high on my list of favourite horror movies.
It captures the essentials of the genre for me very well.
I guess everyone has different expectations for horror, but I like the M.R. James/Ramsey Campbell type stories the best where characters don't know they're transgressing some unknown contract or overstepping some dangerous invisible line then meet an abrupt and cruel end before they have time to realize their fatal error.
You and I have nothing to discuss then.
I loved it. Ti is about anticipation, this is crucial to fully enjoy his movies.
The girl was cute but the movie was arguably boring. I in fact love his 2009 feature The House Of The Devil.
Victorian ghost stories are frankly superior to modern horror stories.
Innkeepers was sort of a fusion between the two since the third act turns into your more conventional horror movie.
The fleeting glimpses of strange, unexplainable phenomenon from the corner of your eye with disturbing ramifications are much better than grotesque creature features. That's why I liked Lake Mungo as well.
>Lake Mungo
Haven't seen Innkeepers but LM is kino so definitely need to check it out
They're not the same, so don't expect them to be similar at all. Lake Mungo is more a traditional Victorian ghost story (Appointment at Samara, The Signalman by Dickens, William Wilson by Edgar Allan Poe). The Innkeepers is more an M.R. James/Ramsey Campbell type cautionary tale that has medieval roots (see an Internet Story).
Don't talk to you or your son again?
>Don't talk to you or your son again?
Or my cousin and his dog.
The cover on the right looks unbearably B-grade. Probably why i didn't watch it. Also zoomers.
I heard the second one wasn't too good so you didn't miss out
I still really like it. Not as good as the first, but still decent compared to sequels that tend to fall flat on their face.
Great setting (that sadly doesn't really exist), and some nice twists.
It tries too hard to be campy and ends up as sort of a failed parody of the first, and all the characters become caricatures, but really only descends to cringe at one point (street fighter parody moment).
I would watch a third if they made it.
What part of "You and I have nothing to discuss" didn't you understand?
>cuckolding
>white guy dies the arguably the pointful death
>black guy gets to frick all the white girls
>black guy dies the quickest death
>le granny porn
>brittanys snows breasts were meh
3/10
Ti West, The guy who made you're next etc were going to bring a Renaissance of horror. What happened? How did Eggers and onions horror took over? Why did fresher , interesting and bloodier horror die out? Is only A24 to blame?
>the real horror is mental illnessllness/psychological
Frick off. You're not first to have the idea and you do the least with this. Psychological horror is not a new creation.
>The guy who made you're next
Have you seen The Guest? Wingard's best movie. Not really horror but it's horror influenced.
it's unbelievable how good The Guest is considering wingard's other stuff. You're Next is good, the rest are trash, and The Guest is a perfect movie.
I agree. It's so comfy and rewatchable. Crazy how directors can create one great movie and the rest of their stuff is so forgettable or shitty.
Hopefully he makes a comeback. I read he was doing a new movie with Dan Stevens and got excited but it's just another Godzilla vs King Kong movie
>rewatchable
It really is. Whole thing oozes fun
I have The Guest on blu-ray. No streaming service will take it away from me, nor will my computer fail and a digital copy be lost. Frick compressed streaming. Based physical media for life!
Strangely, a lot of promising horror directors stalled. Perhaps there were financial reasons, some went into tv series, others did soulless mainstream remakes. Examples:
-Lian Gavin, released A Dark Song 6 years ago
-Kevin Kölsch/Dennis Widmyer, Starry Eyes was released 8 years ago
-Gerard Johnstone, HouseBound (2014)
At least Ti did a horror movie that, despite its flaws, is bold and has good production values.
>Why did fresher , interesting and bloodier horror die out?
Because people realized fake blood is fake, and slashers are the most formulaic movies ever made, once you've seen one you've seen all of them.
Any movie that tries something new is at least more promising and interesting, even if it turns out to be shit. Adding a cuck storyline and Scary Movie-tier jokes to same old shit is not a great way to innovate either
Marketing has a lot to do with it. The current Halloween trilogy is very lucrative.
>slashers are the most formulaic movies ever made
it's a kino formula
i hope mia remains a scream queen for as long as people keep making somewhat decent movies
A 19 year old Mia with braces and pigtails is my dream b***h.
Bold title.
I thought it was kind of shit. None of the build up seemed to pay off well.
At the beginning where the cops are investigating the place and the black sheriff was like "...My God...", I expected a sight of absolute horror, like all the characters decapitated with their heads assembling some grisly shrine or some shit.
Instead it was anticlimactically shown to be, what, a single fricking dead guy hung up by hooks? I feel like most cops could see that sort of crime scene and not even blink. Also to me a staple of horror movies is supposed to be the characters knowing they're being hunted and being powerless to fight back against the killers.
In this movie pretty much all the characters die specifically because they're completely trusting of the elderly killers and don't know what's going on, which is kind of lame as frick. Then as soon as the surviving characters do fight back the killers get done in by the most moronic deus ex machinas possible, cardiac arrest and breaking your hip from a shotgun kickback.
And the cinematography and shot composition didn't feel like it was doing anything special either, most of the editing felt hammy and forced. Ultimately thought it was a waste of time.
You know the concept of 'level squish' in mmos?
Ti West does sort of a 'gore squish'. His stuff is conventional and subdued but by design. It adds to the sense of realism because realistically a cop in real life isn't going to see a mutilated strung up guy in the basement ever, maybe only once in their life.
Some movies do follow the 'characters know they're being hunted' playbook, but a lot of them don't. Both work for different reasons. Hitchwiener for example veered in the opposite direction by emphasizing dramatic irony. You can see that Ti West is riffing on/parodying dramatic irony because he never lets the dramatic tension being fully realized before deflating it. Again, it's by design and it's his playful sort of style, it could come across as amateurish if you're not aware of what he's doing, but he's basically going "see, I could do this, but I'll do something unexpected instead".
As for the elderly, I think it's bring in another form of horror. People not horrified by the gore and blood and guts can still be grossed out by naked old people fricking or trying to hit on young people. It's just supposed to feel like grindhouse and shocking.
>A24
Yikers
Some good ones have somehow been released by them but my God, are they most onionised film house/or whatever. Pseduo magnets.
Yeah I like a few movies they've distributed but their fanbase is the gaygiest thing ever
X reminds me of two very different horror movies/stories.
First is Tourist Trap.
The second is the short story "The Fear" by Richard Harland.
Again they're nothing alike in style or conclusion but they occupy the same country.
>DUDE PORN
>DUDE SLASHER
wow so original
Boring as frick, he could cut almost 30 min of the movie but
>hurr It's slow burn durr
Only good scene was the neck stabbing in front of the van, the rest is israelite cuck propaganda. Frick off.