Pretty good, good animation, good story, good characters.
these too, but they should have kept the monster designs closer to the concept art. the plot itself is a bit bland but considering this is a notDisney movie it just to be expected
Yeah, felt like a whole different movie after the first monster, which personally was the best designed of the lot. Probably because it was allowed to be a monster and not forced to look cute.
They’re not giant, aren’t in a memorable scene, and only show up for a second, but I thought the riddleback design was spooky as frick. They’re that big school of lanternfish/eel-like looking things that pass by Crow’s ship at one point.
Also it might not be very original, but “just a giant crab” is a classic.
Honestly I think the only truly boring monster design was Red, but giving her a comfy nasal cavity that a couple people can just chill in was a very cool idea.
What I think kills the movie the most is that the eponymous Sea Beast is fricking boring as a character. She's basically a glorified boat. We never really see her form a meaningful connection with the protagonists. With Toothless, as tired as the comparisons may be, you actually see why he comes to trust Hiccup, and how their relationship grows. Red doesn't really get any of that. Maisy just cuts the rope (not to save her, but to keep the boat from capsizing) and suddenly they're BFFs.
There's also the fact that the witch's curse never came into play, it feels like they just animated a deleted scene.
The entire second half was just half-baked as hell it seems. If even the beasts are near as intelligent as the movie wants to show, there's no way they or the humans would all immediately let the war end just like that when it's been going for hundreds of years.
Agreed. The beast was boring. Not just in its character design (which looks highly derivative of Toothless), but also in personality. Most of the time she just stared at people and didn't give much of an indication of what she was thinking. I don't know why she did anything that she did.
The two main guys were fairly charismatic. The scenes involving the ship and the sailors were cool. But the kid was annoying, and the beast was dull.
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I see you don’t know much about the history of whaling or ocean piracy.
I’m seriously concerned about all the women running around on these ships, and how the frick pregnancy and child rearing works in this profession.
Nevermind the possibility of someone getting pregnant, I couldn't help thinking about that one screenshot of some military guy ranting about how the presence of women drags a combat unit down. He talked about how women don't have enough physical strength to handle basic everyday tasks, how guys get horny and distracted around them, and how there's a need for special accommodations due to the sex differences. I feel like those problems would apply to life on a beast-hunting ship, too.
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> accommodations due to the sex differences
You can say periods, anon. We’re all over 18 here.
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I thought he meant different sleeping rooms taking up more than bare necessary space but yeah periods would be hell in a landscape like that
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they use it as chum for the beasts
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They don’t need different sleeping rooms, they can sleep in the same room as the men. If people are gonna frick or rape on a ship, separating sleeping quarters isn’t gonna stop them. Also apparently Maisie’s parents both worked on the same ship together, so I guess married couples are actually acceptable?
>There's also the fact that the witch's curse never came into play, it feels like they just animated a deleted scene.
That's honestly my biggest single issue. One can infer that the nature of her curse; that it will cost Captain Crow "everything" is meant to be a reference to the fact that him using the weapon to bring the Red Bluster to the capitol ultimately results in the loss of all that he holds dear; the end of the hunters' entire lifestyle.
EXCEPT that if he HADN'T brought the Red Bluster there, the royal couple's proclamation meant the end of the hunters' entire lifestyle anyway. She wasn't costing him anything that he wasn't already going to lose anyway.
"I'll grant your wish, captain. But know ye this: There'll be a high price to be paid for it. Come the evening, the sun'll set beneath th' horizon, and shan't be seen again, afore the dawn!"
The monsters never gave a shit about humans and stayed on their side of the ocean but were made enemies by the imperialist royalty who seeked expansion. In the end the humans learn not to frick around and find out when it comes to monsters
>movie about leatting wild animals live in peace and not prod them around unless you wannaget fricked >"hehe we should've just let the nazis do their thang"
This is the most moronic /misc/ take I've seen today
So this adventure movie is actively against exploration.
Mostly against colonization especially if it involves extinguishing local fauna
>sought expansion
Was that it? I really couldn’t tell if they ever directly said what it was. I feel like it could have just as easily been that they just liked collecting bones.
I had a friend just randomly say the other day that foot fetishists deserve to be shamed, and it was one of the most perplexing interactions. I have the weird suspicion that he said it just because of the stonetoss comic.
he said it because foot fetishists - like furries, sissies, and ntrgays - constantly insist on shoving their kink into everything and anything they can
That “die a great death” thing was downright ominous to me, and in the first quarter I seriously thought that there was gonna be a bigger deal made out of the horror of being a hunter. But then it became more about how the poor sea monsters don’t deserve to die, and less about how neither do the hunters.
Honestly, where do they even go from here? I feel like going for the peaceful option wrote their story into a corner. Imagine if they kept to the monster hunting and each film they could showcase bigger and badder monsters and ways of fighting them.
The fight scene in the beginning was pretty cool, The chad protagonist and Captain made me want to start lifting and purchase a whaling spear for a home self-defense weapon, I was disappointed as frick when they completely turned the direction to the "beast are actually good" bullshit we could've had an epic sea adventure film that didn't revolve around pirates but of course they wanted to make a film that once again deconstructed traditional aryan masculine values and the aryan spirit of exploration and expansion similar to ATLA. Although, I can stand seeing non-europeans characters jammed in old euro settings, the black girl was pretty cute and affable I wouldn't mind it if she her if the film glorified monster killing but the entire film is her making the chad protag look dumb and stupid, condescendingly and then finally making turn his back on his own nature and settle for a boring mundane life in the boonies
The first half was pretty great, the second half was bland. Why’d they go for the obvious twist of the monsters not actually being bad? It could have worked if the bond between the MCs and the monster was well done like Toothless and Hiccup’s. It also annoyed me that they pointedly avoided the Captain going all Ahab in the beginning only to end up completely going that route. The animation is nice, though.
Literally finished it 30 seconds ago. I thought the animation was quality and there are a few hype scenes, but that's it. The story doesn't make sense if you think about it for even a second. No attention to detail. Wasted potential imo.
Was I the only one who thought there were size consistency issues with Red?
>Hey, you know how people really liked 'How to Train Your Dragon'? What if we did that, but instead of the main characters being an endearing nerd and an irascible shieldmaiden who learn that monstrous creatures can be befriended and tamed through acts of trust and careful study of their behavior, the main characters were a sassy negress and a dumb white guy and they didn't actually have to do anything to befriend the creatures, it just sort of happens?
Seriously. If they were going the befriend the monsters plot from the beginning, that should have been the entire movie with MAYBE a hint of things to come at the end.
>setting inspired by sailors and whalers which to 99% where white man >liteally 70% of all charactes are woman, competely undermining the struggles and archivements of real white men to give unearned credit to woman and blacks yet again
of course all white men were also either depicted as evil weak or incompetent
the male general dies like a b***h and but his sister the strong wyman saves the day.
I said it before, I'll say it again, the climax should have been Crow and Red finding common ground despite the losses they have had from each other and going after the Imperial Fleet with the Imperator being a superweapon. Also, make the royals actually blame-able, like put in some throwaway line that they are actively hunting for Beast Horns to use as weapons ingredients for their expansion against other countries.
>make the royals actually blame-able
This. I felt like the King and Queen were just as clueless and generationally removed from the truth as anyone else.
That, or they were really good at pretending they were. Though I don’t see why the movie would spell out so many things so hamfistedly and then keep that part subtle.
A lot of potential ruined by an obvious and uninspired twist.
Please tell me it it's not a twist villain
I mean, the main villains you meet after the opening act, but they're not in the movie much.
these too, but they should have kept the monster designs closer to the concept art. the plot itself is a bit bland but considering this is a notDisney movie it just to be expected
I'd love to see a Cinemaphile movie push cool monsters over cute ones. All these things literally blur together now.
Yeah, felt like a whole different movie after the first monster, which personally was the best designed of the lot. Probably because it was allowed to be a monster and not forced to look cute.
They’re not giant, aren’t in a memorable scene, and only show up for a second, but I thought the riddleback design was spooky as frick. They’re that big school of lanternfish/eel-like looking things that pass by Crow’s ship at one point.
Also it might not be very original, but “just a giant crab” is a classic.
Honestly I think the only truly boring monster design was Red, but giving her a comfy nasal cavity that a couple people can just chill in was a very cool idea.
What I think kills the movie the most is that the eponymous Sea Beast is fricking boring as a character. She's basically a glorified boat. We never really see her form a meaningful connection with the protagonists. With Toothless, as tired as the comparisons may be, you actually see why he comes to trust Hiccup, and how their relationship grows. Red doesn't really get any of that. Maisy just cuts the rope (not to save her, but to keep the boat from capsizing) and suddenly they're BFFs.
There's also the fact that the witch's curse never came into play, it feels like they just animated a deleted scene.
The entire second half was just half-baked as hell it seems. If even the beasts are near as intelligent as the movie wants to show, there's no way they or the humans would all immediately let the war end just like that when it's been going for hundreds of years.
Agreed. The beast was boring. Not just in its character design (which looks highly derivative of Toothless), but also in personality. Most of the time she just stared at people and didn't give much of an indication of what she was thinking. I don't know why she did anything that she did.
The two main guys were fairly charismatic. The scenes involving the ship and the sailors were cool. But the kid was annoying, and the beast was dull.
Nevermind the possibility of someone getting pregnant, I couldn't help thinking about that one screenshot of some military guy ranting about how the presence of women drags a combat unit down. He talked about how women don't have enough physical strength to handle basic everyday tasks, how guys get horny and distracted around them, and how there's a need for special accommodations due to the sex differences. I feel like those problems would apply to life on a beast-hunting ship, too.
> accommodations due to the sex differences
You can say periods, anon. We’re all over 18 here.
I thought he meant different sleeping rooms taking up more than bare necessary space but yeah periods would be hell in a landscape like that
they use it as chum for the beasts
They don’t need different sleeping rooms, they can sleep in the same room as the men. If people are gonna frick or rape on a ship, separating sleeping quarters isn’t gonna stop them. Also apparently Maisie’s parents both worked on the same ship together, so I guess married couples are actually acceptable?
>There's also the fact that the witch's curse never came into play, it feels like they just animated a deleted scene.
That's honestly my biggest single issue. One can infer that the nature of her curse; that it will cost Captain Crow "everything" is meant to be a reference to the fact that him using the weapon to bring the Red Bluster to the capitol ultimately results in the loss of all that he holds dear; the end of the hunters' entire lifestyle.
EXCEPT that if he HADN'T brought the Red Bluster there, the royal couple's proclamation meant the end of the hunters' entire lifestyle anyway. She wasn't costing him anything that he wasn't already going to lose anyway.
"I'll grant your wish, captain. But know ye this: There'll be a high price to be paid for it. Come the evening, the sun'll set beneath th' horizon, and shan't be seen again, afore the dawn!"
so he ended up breeding the brown e-girl, right?
she wouldn't accept a no.
Let me guess, the monsters aren't actually evil and they learn to live in harmony with them instead of killing them?
That's not a twist. A twist is something the audience doesn't expect. You could tell the monsters were good. They were good in the trailer.
The monsters never gave a shit about humans and stayed on their side of the ocean but were made enemies by the imperialist royalty who seeked expansion. In the end the humans learn not to frick around and find out when it comes to monsters
So many Hollywood films have the earnest message to not bother Nazis and such ever.
>movie about leatting wild animals live in peace and not prod them around unless you wannaget fricked
>"hehe we should've just let the nazis do their thang"
This is the most moronic /misc/ take I've seen today
Mostly against colonization especially if it involves extinguishing local fauna
You can't make a town without ruining "nature".
So this adventure movie is actively against exploration.
If exploration includes doing what Nazis, Palestinians, homeless, and 3rd world people etc don’t want.
>what Nazis, Palestinians, homeless, and 3rd world people etc don’t want
What?
>sought expansion
Was that it? I really couldn’t tell if they ever directly said what it was. I feel like it could have just as easily been that they just liked collecting bones.
Pretty good, good animation, good story, good characters.
I love “How to train your dragon in the ocean”!
I think the girl had awesome feet but it took to long to see them.
have a nice day
Cry some more
I had a friend just randomly say the other day that foot fetishists deserve to be shamed, and it was one of the most perplexing interactions. I have the weird suspicion that he said it just because of the stonetoss comic.
he said it because foot fetishists - like furries, sissies, and ntrgays - constantly insist on shoving their kink into everything and anything they can
I dunno, I’ve never seen a foot fetish convention, or a foot fetish psa, or a foot fetish parade float.
First half was great.
Why? What the hell is wrong with people? Why couldn't the entire movie be this?
That “die a great death” thing was downright ominous to me, and in the first quarter I seriously thought that there was gonna be a bigger deal made out of the horror of being a hunter. But then it became more about how the poor sea monsters don’t deserve to die, and less about how neither do the hunters.
That's sound very bigoted of you, you'll have to loose some social credit for that post
Honestly, where do they even go from here? I feel like going for the peaceful option wrote their story into a corner. Imagine if they kept to the monster hunting and each film they could showcase bigger and badder monsters and ways of fighting them.
I don’t think the people making this were considering leaving space for a sequel.
Why do you believe that everything needs a sequel?
Not subversive enough.
The fight scene in the beginning was pretty cool, The chad protagonist and Captain made me want to start lifting and purchase a whaling spear for a home self-defense weapon, I was disappointed as frick when they completely turned the direction to the "beast are actually good" bullshit we could've had an epic sea adventure film that didn't revolve around pirates but of course they wanted to make a film that once again deconstructed traditional aryan masculine values and the aryan spirit of exploration and expansion similar to ATLA. Although, I can stand seeing non-europeans characters jammed in old euro settings, the black girl was pretty cute and affable I wouldn't mind it if she her if the film glorified monster killing but the entire film is her making the chad protag look dumb and stupid, condescendingly and then finally making turn his back on his own nature and settle for a boring mundane life in the boonies
I see you don’t know much about the history of whaling or ocean piracy.
I’m seriously concerned about all the women running around on these ships, and how the frick pregnancy and child rearing works in this profession.
Is this more Disney racemixing?
it's a netflix original
Cringe
For a rip off of How to Train your Dragon, it was aiight. It looked good
The first half was pretty great, the second half was bland. Why’d they go for the obvious twist of the monsters not actually being bad? It could have worked if the bond between the MCs and the monster was well done like Toothless and Hiccup’s. It also annoyed me that they pointedly avoided the Captain going all Ahab in the beginning only to end up completely going that route. The animation is nice, though.
Literally finished it 30 seconds ago. I thought the animation was quality and there are a few hype scenes, but that's it. The story doesn't make sense if you think about it for even a second. No attention to detail. Wasted potential imo.
Was I the only one who thought there were size consistency issues with Red?
I just wanted a nice cool adventure. Something close to Sinbad. Is that too much to ask.
Yes, it would have been too good
>hello, we're going to shit up your movie
Not gonna lie, she cute. Animal sidekick is probably cringe, though.
>hand wrapping
lame
Why?
Hey at least the MC is a man for once
He was clearly a bait and switch and actually playing second fiddle to the girl.
Say it ain't so
>Second fiddle
They both get equal billing. Both are enjoyable enough, unless you're /misc/ addicted you shouldn't mind.
>Hey, you know how people really liked 'How to Train Your Dragon'? What if we did that, but instead of the main characters being an endearing nerd and an irascible shieldmaiden who learn that monstrous creatures can be befriended and tamed through acts of trust and careful study of their behavior, the main characters were a sassy negress and a dumb white guy and they didn't actually have to do anything to befriend the creatures, it just sort of happens?
Seriously. If they were going the befriend the monsters plot from the beginning, that should have been the entire movie with MAYBE a hint of things to come at the end.
I’m glad it wasn’t, though. I’d rather gee a movie with one good half and one bad half, instead of two bad halves.
>dumb white guy
He's literally the most capablr character of the movie
HAHAHAHAHA
too big
boy that's disappointing
It was ok. Great for children tho
Production Value: 7/10
Design / Aesthetic: 8/10
Story: 3/10
Characters: 3/10
I want to know if there really was a problem with revising the script.
>setting inspired by sailors and whalers which to 99% where white man
>liteally 70% of all charactes are woman, competely undermining the struggles and archivements of real white men to give unearned credit to woman and blacks yet again
of course all white men were also either depicted as evil weak or incompetent
the male general dies like a b***h and but his sister the strong wyman saves the day.
> 99% of whalers where white man
Just plain untrue. Even Moby Dick remembered that whaling ships were a fricking rainbow.
Frick, Nantucket was a Quaker island. They have a black history museum next to the whaling museum.
I liked it well enough. But a part of me does wish they played it straight and just let it be a movie about pirates fighting sea monsters.
Monster designs good.
Pirates cool.
Subversive black girl ruins everything. Got israeliteed out of a good movie.
I want to frick the Red Bluster.
Should've stayed with the original plot that is just kaijuu hunting
You don't think anything because you are incapable of thought.
still haven't watched it
which character will I want to frick?
Red
Blue.
a few
I said it before, I'll say it again, the climax should have been Crow and Red finding common ground despite the losses they have had from each other and going after the Imperial Fleet with the Imperator being a superweapon. Also, make the royals actually blame-able, like put in some throwaway line that they are actively hunting for Beast Horns to use as weapons ingredients for their expansion against other countries.
>make the royals actually blame-able
This. I felt like the King and Queen were just as clueless and generationally removed from the truth as anyone else.
That, or they were really good at pretending they were. Though I don’t see why the movie would spell out so many things so hamfistedly and then keep that part subtle.
The characters had literally zero reason to switch sides. Red has zero reason to help them. By the end everyone is doing something dumb for no reason
>By the end everyone is doing something dumb for no reason
This happens so much in movies right now.
Think for yourself homosexual
I only think rape