Why ask for facts and numbers when you're just going to construct a fantasy of persecution anyway? No point letting reality interfere with your pathetic victim complex, you alpha chad, you.
Actually, other way around, if I'm honest. I only know Jason from when he shows up in Batman main books, but I have read the entirety of deathstroke and tons of titans.
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Kid. DEVIL.
They're nothing alike. I'm assuming you only know Jason Todd and don't actually read Titans/Deathstroke enough to know anything about Ravager beyond her costume and swords.
Actually, other way around, if I'm honest. I only know Jason from when he shows up in Batman main books, but I have read the entirety of deathstroke and tons of titans.
Jason was raised by an abusive father and a druggie step-mom in inner-city Gotham till they died and he went to the orphanage that sent kids out as thieves till Batman took him in and made him Robin. He murdered a guy. Then he got himself killed. Then he was resurrected. He trained in secret for years, then went back and murdered lots of guys. Once stuffed 9 heads and a bomb in a duffel bag for theatrics. Got turned into a tentacle monster and ate a dude once. Eventually calmed down, now an anti-hero and who somehow got his Batcave privileges back. Nobody seems to care about the murders.
Rose was raised by her CIA asset mom in an upper class brothel in New York City. She was orphaned as a teen, fostered by the Titans, adopted, babysat for the Titans, orphaned again, brainwashed by her psycho dad, rescued by Dick, joined the Titans, worked as a no-kill mercenary, and tried to redeem her psycho dad. Got married, then widowed by an alt-earth version of her dad. Has untreated dissociative identity disorder. Hmong.
They're nothing alike. You could make it work by saying she wants to fix Jason in place of fixing her dad, but all these hack writers have Rose enabling him instead and acting wildly out of character. It's shit.
You get stuck into the details and miss the big picture. When I say they're very similar, I don't mean they've gone through the same exact stuff. I mean, within the context of a superhero story, their role in a team or the larger narrative is mostly the same: >grumpy violent, willing to kill, edgy hurt person who hurts the people that in their mind deserve it, in ways most cleaner heroes won't and don't expect others to fully get it, because they don't have their hurt angsty past
That alone makes them too similar.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>grumpy violent, willing to kill
Like I said, you don't know Rose. The only person she's ever killed is Wade DeFarge. Read some comics.
11 months ago
Anonymous
that's not true. I remember distinctly in a run (I think titans), she tying up a guy and tossing him in a lake to drown. Possibly after cutting his tongue. I think he was a trafficker or something
11 months ago
Anonymous
Didn't she also kill some league of shadows guy during Shadow War?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Shadow War was written by the same moron who thinks Rose and Jason make sense as a couple. It's like using examples from the New 52 version of Ravager, it's already wrong.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Post scans, then. Because I'll post them for the many instances where Rose was normal.
11 months ago
Anonymous
you're a sadist. I'm fairly certain it's teen titans vol 3, I think it's right before rose leaves the team for the first time (she returns later), but the run is like 90 issues. I aint' reading them all to find it
11 months ago
Anonymous
That would have been around issue 60, right before she leaves for the Terror Titans miniseries. But she left because of issues with Wonder Girl, she didn't murder anyone.
Since when are ships supposed to be judged on whether they're good for the woman? It's all about how good they are as wish fulfillment for the guy. A dorky loser like kid devil scoring a badass babe like rose is a win for him, so it's a good ship. Sheesh, learn the rules.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Right? It's the same thing with Red Hood. Who cares how little it makes sense for Ravager to want anything to do with Jason Todd, Rose is hot and Jason has needs.
11 months ago
Anonymous
The difference is, Jason is too atrocious for any non idiot to want to use him as a self insert.
Not as good as Miles x Gwen
Isn't that a Taylor crackship?
Kys
I love them
She needs to find a good Hmong boy to continue hmong bloodline
You're still the biggest mong here.
Why does DC have this tendency of keeping passing girls around the bat kids?
Soon, they will pairing her with Damian.
>the cute Batgirl
Sounds like Steph’s gonna get a taste too.
It's shit.
To be fair, Rose has been flirty since day one. She kept hitting on Kyle when they were both on the Titans.
Hey Joshua Williansom
when was the last time a comic featured a white male character rescuing a female hero/villian instead?
I dunno, about 6 months to a year maybe.
Not exactly a counterbalance for the last 3 thousand years of western literature.
Why ask for facts and numbers when you're just going to construct a fantasy of persecution anyway? No point letting reality interfere with your pathetic victim complex, you alpha chad, you.
Rose is better.for pregnancy.
We need a new DC Asian milf,
The only good ship for Rose was kid devil.
The only good ship for Rose was Dick.
Hey remember when he and Jason were friends?
He goes by Red Devil now.
I like them. They have a fun dynamic, but they probably wouldn't be good for each other long term.
they're too similar
That's why they'd get along at first, but ultimately wouldn't last.
They're nothing alike. I'm assuming you only know Jason Todd and don't actually read Titans/Deathstroke enough to know anything about Ravager beyond her costume and swords.
Actually, other way around, if I'm honest. I only know Jason from when he shows up in Batman main books, but I have read the entirety of deathstroke and tons of titans.
Kid. DEVIL.
Jason was raised by an abusive father and a druggie step-mom in inner-city Gotham till they died and he went to the orphanage that sent kids out as thieves till Batman took him in and made him Robin. He murdered a guy. Then he got himself killed. Then he was resurrected. He trained in secret for years, then went back and murdered lots of guys. Once stuffed 9 heads and a bomb in a duffel bag for theatrics. Got turned into a tentacle monster and ate a dude once. Eventually calmed down, now an anti-hero and who somehow got his Batcave privileges back. Nobody seems to care about the murders.
Rose was raised by her CIA asset mom in an upper class brothel in New York City. She was orphaned as a teen, fostered by the Titans, adopted, babysat for the Titans, orphaned again, brainwashed by her psycho dad, rescued by Dick, joined the Titans, worked as a no-kill mercenary, and tried to redeem her psycho dad. Got married, then widowed by an alt-earth version of her dad. Has untreated dissociative identity disorder. Hmong.
They're nothing alike. You could make it work by saying she wants to fix Jason in place of fixing her dad, but all these hack writers have Rose enabling him instead and acting wildly out of character. It's shit.
You get stuck into the details and miss the big picture. When I say they're very similar, I don't mean they've gone through the same exact stuff. I mean, within the context of a superhero story, their role in a team or the larger narrative is mostly the same:
>grumpy violent, willing to kill, edgy hurt person who hurts the people that in their mind deserve it, in ways most cleaner heroes won't and don't expect others to fully get it, because they don't have their hurt angsty past
That alone makes them too similar.
>grumpy violent, willing to kill
Like I said, you don't know Rose. The only person she's ever killed is Wade DeFarge. Read some comics.
that's not true. I remember distinctly in a run (I think titans), she tying up a guy and tossing him in a lake to drown. Possibly after cutting his tongue. I think he was a trafficker or something
Didn't she also kill some league of shadows guy during Shadow War?
Shadow War was written by the same moron who thinks Rose and Jason make sense as a couple. It's like using examples from the New 52 version of Ravager, it's already wrong.
Post scans, then. Because I'll post them for the many instances where Rose was normal.
you're a sadist. I'm fairly certain it's teen titans vol 3, I think it's right before rose leaves the team for the first time (she returns later), but the run is like 90 issues. I aint' reading them all to find it
That would have been around issue 60, right before she leaves for the Terror Titans miniseries. But she left because of issues with Wonder Girl, she didn't murder anyone.
Kid Devil was kinda pathetic, but Nightwing made her a better person.
Since when are ships supposed to be judged on whether they're good for the woman? It's all about how good they are as wish fulfillment for the guy. A dorky loser like kid devil scoring a badass babe like rose is a win for him, so it's a good ship. Sheesh, learn the rules.
Right? It's the same thing with Red Hood. Who cares how little it makes sense for Ravager to want anything to do with Jason Todd, Rose is hot and Jason has needs.
The difference is, Jason is too atrocious for any non idiot to want to use him as a self insert.
The best thing that happened to Kid Devil is when Kid Devil died.
Artemis os better. And steph isn't an actual one. But rose isn't too shabby either.
I prefer Artemis.
Most people will always prefer Artemis because of the Outlaws run.
Don't worry, the webtoon is fixing that.
Daddy
Imagine Rose so desperate she'll take the knock-offs instead.