What do you think of Dan Didio complaining about DC comics going woke in his recent comics gate interview?
Do you think he's trying to get a job with the Rippaverse or the other comicsgates chuds?
What do you think of Dan Didio complaining about DC comics going woke in his recent comics gate interview?
Share some of the stuff he said.
Here
https://boundingintocomics.com/2023/09/27/former-dc-comics-publisher-dan-didio-explains-why-woke-ideology-is-rampant/
The video has the full interview but the article has quotes. The Interviewer is a comicgater who got banned from a bunch of cons for harrasment and misogny
>for harrasment and misogny
Whats that code for these days?
Bothering people and being shitty to women
>being shitty to women
Means literally anything
I said good morning to her and she cried rape
>The Interviewer is a comicgater who got banned from a bunch of cons for harrasment and misogny
Ah yes, "harassment and misogyny" aka "we had to make something up".
Something about holocaust denier or something online from what i heard.
HE DINDU NUFFIN’!!!
>The Interviewer is a comicgater who got banned from a bunch of cons for harrasment and misogny
What dies that have to do with Dan Didio? What a weird non-sequiter.
>The Interviewer is a comicgater who got banned from a bunch of cons for harrasment and misogny
Got anything to clarify what exactly that vague as frick accusation actually entails?
I don't like woke bullshit either but why do all these comicsgate homosexuals always have skeletons in their closets themselves?
Because libsharts inflate harmless incidents to make them look bad
IDK much about about him. He looks like one of those grifters who jumped from genre fiction (sad puppies) to board games to comicsgate finding new "SJW" people to make hate videos about.
His recent nemesis is Heather Antos.
Here's one from when he got banned from some conventions 5 years ago
https://www.jimchines.com/2018/01/jon-del-arroz/
The person who wrote this blog seems to be hyping up relatively minor shit but at the same time this guy comes across like a huge grifter obsessed with doing dumb shit and then making himself out to be a victim for it.
every time.
Who are you even arguing with? Do you even know?
Anyone that says this constant seething about wokeness is annoying.
>The Interviewer is a comicgater who got banned from a bunch of cons for harrasment and misogny
So not liking ghostbusters 2016. Frick off Cinemaphileumblr
Post quotes or something I'm not clicking your link you shill.
The most relevant quote would be a response to the loaded question if Superman and Batman will ever be saved from the SJWs.
>Look at the cycle of the characters. Look at the world. Where have we been over the years? Look at how many times the characters have changed and moved on.”
>harrasment and misogny
White woman words that could mean literally anything
>spends 10 years letting insane lefties hijack the company
>company flounders as a result
>comic culture becomes increasingly terrible
>"DAAAAHHH WHY EVERYDING SO WOKE NOW???"
I'm so fricking tired of israelites bros.
I don't think you really understand what an Editor-in-Chief dies or who is even working at DC comics right now.
The EIC doesn't even know what the EIC does.
Part 1 of 2.
DiDio stated, “I used to use an expression that I put in [Ancient Enemies]. I used to say corporations don’t have values. Corporations have profits. So, you know, the only time they have values is they think it’s going to add to their profits.”
“So when people start to talk about what a company stands for, a company stands for money. That’s all they ever do. If you ever think anything more than that you’re misguided. They present themselves differently,” he elaborated.
Specifically referring to the story of Ancient Enemies, he said, “What I like to do is pull back that veneer just to make that when we see the people inside the company while they’re talking quietly amongst themselves they understand exactly what their purpose is even if everybody else is seeing them for something else.”
2/2
Del Arroz would follow up on DiDio’s comments asking him, “Well, there’s a lot of hubaloo about that and there’s so much political culture war crap going on in comics now too with finger pointing and all. Do you attribute most of that on the corporate level than to incompetence when stuff starts to slide in that direction. Like it’s not intentional? Or it’s just a few people really loud and they get the attention?”
DiDio responded, “I think it’s a few people loud and a lot of people chasing something they don’t know. The one thing that you find out in the corporate world very quickly is most of the people that work and produce things don’t know anything about what they produce. They are not consumers of their own product. So where do they get their information on how their product is succeeding or failing?”
“They go online, now. They are pulling information from these websites and conversations,” he answered his own rhetorical question. “So what you have now is you have them picking up the most dichotomous points of view and ultimately aligning with then which one they want to believe the most. And then using that sense to basically validate the choices they are making inside the product whether it needs it or not.”
He concluded, “You asked how things are made. That’s how things are made. And usually about 20 people in the room making that agreement by the way.”
Later during a question and answer portion where viewers sent in SuperChats, DiDio was asked, “Dan, do you think there’s a chance that our beloved characters like Batman/Superman will be saved from the SJW’s who have taken over?”
He briefly answered, “Look at the cycle of the characters. Look at the world. Where have we been over the years? Look at how many times the characters have changed and moved on.”
>“So when people start to talk about what a company stands for, a company stands for money. That’s all they ever do. If you ever think anything more than that you’re misguided. They present themselves differently,” he elaborated.
This kinda sounds like the opposite of OP's claims. It's more like he's saying that companies aren't "woke" they just want to maximize profits and publicly hating trannies isn't profitable.
FOLLOWUP. WHO ARE THESE 20 PEOPLE.?
More specifically, the people in the room see troony lovers and troony haters and picked the lovers ,and ignored the haters.
He has no right to complain with all the Woke stuff he has caused over the years. He was the one that started the Gay Alan Scott stuff.
Not to mention that he wanted DC 5G to be Clark Kent, Bruce Wayne, and Damian Wayne becoming evil and Jon Kent Superman and Luke Fox Batman having to stop them.
All lies and Hypocrisy
This is the same subhuman that not only tried to do this and made alan scott gay during N52
But also made Jon Kent age up and become a homosexual against the siegel and shuter families for sheer vengeance and bicker against Geoff Johns.
And he was all in to make Superman and Lois marriage go down the drain because his marriage failed and having superheroes with families pissed him off because his never worked.
Never trust him or any of the OMD subhumans
Didn’t hear what he had to say but I’m imagining it was something reasonable like “the powers that be wanted more diversity at whatever cost and we think it hurt some more legitimate pushes by frustrating traditional audiences”.
>What do you think of Dan Didio complaining about DC comics going woke in his recent comics gate interview?
Well I haven't heard what he said, but considering he's the pioneer who kickstarted DC's ruin, I don't think he has any room to talk. I'm kind of surprised nobody has beat his ass yet. Every bad idea at DC was started on his watch.
DAN DIDIO WENT COMICSGATE!
Where's the fricking LINK, homosexual?
>Dan Dildo
I think its this?
I'm sure he's not at all salty about being fired and nothing he said is informed by self-interest.
It's not 2018. Anyone who cares what Comicsgate does is trying too hard to relive the "glory days" of the culture war.
I hope that one day the discourse around comics returns to being about actual comic books and not men in their 50s quarreling like schoolgirls online.
>I hope that one day the discourse around comics returns to being about actual comic books and not men in their 50s quarreling like schoolgirls online.
It won't because the only people reading comics right now are in their 30s at the younger end. The sad truth is comics have failed to capture the new generation.
>The sad truth is comics have failed to capture the new generation.
Maybe they should have tried to emulate what actually sells instead of making endless queershit just to "own the chuds".
Except when they do that you frickers still whine about it. Look at Marino Tamaki’s I Am Not Starfire. It was made for a out of continuity line aimed to sell stuff for young adults audience who aren’t traditional comic readers and those graphic novels do fairly well but what did fanboys do? Lose their fricking shit and spend months b***hing about it before the book even came out because oh my god the teen girl was plus size and emo and so woke adult men were having panic attacks.
Or how about when they started doing webtoons but now that was something you had to b***h about too? What about when they do manga series about their characters and then those don’t really make much of a blip?
It's clickbait for the most part, but it's not too crazy to say that the industry has a political bias.
Creative arts have always been liberal. That’s why conservatives always demonise and whine about fiction and entertainment being “degenerate” or “Marxist”. And it’s also why it sells better.
Idk if that's the case for every price of conics media don't get me wrong there's always a form small or large of this.
>some writers being way to overtime to the point it just breaks the experience. Ex:current hawkgirl
>Creative arts have always been liberal
Pretty sure that's revisionist history.
>Except when they do that you frickers still whine about it. Look at Marino Tamaki’s I Am Not Starfire
Are you for real you stupid mongoloid
Are you quoting THAT FRICKING BOOK as an example of trying to do something that sells? The book starring an obese, ugly, selfish shitheaded retcon-daughter that's the least marketable character in decades and looks like a fricking PARODY of what SJWs might try to write? That book? Because fricking anyone could have told you that disgusting shit would sell zero copies.
>It was made for a out of continuity line aimed to sell stuff for young adults audience who aren’t traditional comic readers
That doesn't mean they buy SHIT! Holy frick you are moronic.
what's important is that you didn't prove anon's point about neckbeards losing their fricking minds about random shit attempting to move outside the standard audience
>fricking minds about random shit attempting to move outside the standard audience
That don’t exist because the American Audiences are buying manga.
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Took ten minutes and already you’re sperging because somehow a comic book not targeted to you is hurting your feelings because you can’t accept that it might appeal to other people
Releasing a waste of time, money and resources because of a theoretical audience you're imagining in your head isn't going to rake in new readers or fricking save the industry. Filling the industry with these kinds of ugly unappealing shit is doing the complete opposite and scare away customers instead.
>Frick you, how dare you try to appeal to a market not already buying your product!
Imagine being this triggered that a comic that doesn’t appeal to your own personal tastes just exists lmao
So obviously I Am starfire had to have sold like 120K units cause otherwise you never actually made a point? So what were the bookscan numbers like
>if this one specific graphic novel didn’t make this arbitrary made up bullshit number of sales I win the argument by refusing to acknowledge everything that was just said in favour of pivoting to just caring about sales numbers
Cool cool cool, dude. Double down on idiocy why don’t you. What’s it like being this angry over comic you were never the target audience for in the first place, btw?
B-but anooon, I am still hurt over that time girls called me icky 12 years agoooo!!!!
Anon you said that it was a success and that it was appealing to the new audiences. You can’t even quote a sales figure.
It’s almost like you’re just a homosexual frick looking to argue on an anonymous forum as if you’re improving the world in any fricking way. Stream your suicide, it’ll provide us some entertainment and the rest of your family will be spared your continued existence.
>You can’t even quote a sales figure.
Because why would I have that information on hand?
You claimed it did well. Thinking you had some basis for the claim that it did well seems like a reasonable assumption. Clearly you've taken too much skub to the head.
Anon is just giving you something to rage about.
Isn't that what you really want?
I'm just here for the shitposting, and to see if Dido has anything interesting to say. I actually track the storytime of pain series, of which that book was a first round draft pick.
No rage here. More mild amusement of anon dropping into incoherence at just the slightest inquiry.
I’d like to know why someone would say something is a success and then not even have some data to back the claim up.
I'm sure screaming KYS is absolutely the best way to accomplish that. Rock on.
Nta learn to use the site.
...because they're a shitposter or someone who doesn't have object permanence from one sentence to another?
No one made that claim you fricking high school debate class loser.
First of all, learn to read, mate. Secondly, the line at this point has published 34 different graphic novels in the span of just four years. That is doing well. You don’t need sales figures to see that. DC would not keep putting out multiple original new graphic novels per year if these things weren’t selling well enough. Look at how quickly Vertigo’s new crime graphic novel line died. Or Year One line that’s totally dead. I made no claims they sold 120k like the stupid shit post mentioned.
Lastly, go frick yourself. Your tantrum just further proves my point how much fanboys are cancer and lose their minds over ridiculous little things, especially if something isn’t targeting them personally.
Keep seething. You said that specific title was a success and have not one data point to prove it. You’re just happy it exists because it makes people seethe not because it’s good, worthwhile or even successful. And that is the entire problem. You aren’t special, you aren’t better, you aren’t superior, you aren’t more compassionate and you aren’t more human. You’re just as bad. You just think imagining the people you choose to fight are the bad guys makes you some sort of valiant soldier of good will gliding in on a golden steed go right the universal wrongs and dispel any supplemental wrongthink.
have a nice day you delusional frick, you’re here in the mud with your shitty selfish opinions like everyone else. Get a fricking ounce of perspective will you?
Oh my sweet lord you can’t read.
Saying that over and over again when it has very little worth due to your lack of specificity only makes you look autistic. This has gone on long enough, you’ll claim “victory” at my departure I’m sure because you’re so superior to everyone here that this, like all things, is a righteous battle for the sanctity of all man kind.
Also,
>still no data points
>inb4 you think other YA books being made means starfire was a success, or that that is a “data” point rather than a baseless assertion.
Toodaloo toots.
OK, Dunning–Kruger Anon
You're being baited.
I thought I am not Starfire was a dumb idea, but there's nothing sadder than a nerd playing armchair CEO. Nothing.
>homosexual says they’re appealing to kids
>doesn’t quote a single statistical metric
>instead REEs about le chuds and samegays endlessly.
No no, please. Steam your suicide. You parents would never tell you but it would be the biggest relief to know you aren’t around any more.
You're so mad, hahaha.
You'll be a captain of industry in no time!
>It was made for a out of continuity line aimed to sell stuff for young adults audience who aren’t traditional comic readers and those graphic novels do fairly well but what did fanboys do?
How quickly you backed off claiming it did well. Typical homosexual seething that Cinemaphile isn’t and was never love and that you homosexuals ruining comics aren’t doing it for any other reason than spite.
You for some reason think you’re holier than anyone here simply because you like being a contrarian and talking shit.
The more you show us the more obvious it is, everyone in your life would be immediately spared extreme anxiety and desires Simon if you just killed yourself.
It would improve the lives of everyone you’ve ever interacted with.
>KYS
Original.
Well to be fair it doesn't have to be original, just combative.
As long as no one points out that he doesn't have data proving his claims either.
Cinemaphile is love, but this is more of a concerned for anon's mental state sort of love on my end.
Cinemaphile is love as an effort by shills to make this place more habitable when tumblr went down. It was never genuine and lasted for tops 18-20 months.
This isn’t your hugbox homosexual.
I hate every single one of you c**ts
c**ts as in women, which I know most of you are
Yes, please have a nice day. The world will be immediately improved. Your family will have a weight off their shoulders. It’ll improve the life of everyone you might claim to love. Do it.
Well it's not a theoretical audience, teens really do read and enjoy stuff like I am not Starfire.
Let me post this for effect. THIS FRICKING BOOK is your idea of "emulate what actually sells". This fricking travesty. Only way you could make this sell even less is just putting Goatse on the cover. You are living in a different fricking universe if you think this disgusting shit ever had a fricking chance to be a hit.
I don't. I'm enjoying the sorry sight of manchildren destroying their already slowly dying industry from within.
>I think it’s a few people loud and a lot of people chasing something they don’t know. The one thing that you find out in the corporate world very quickly is most of the people that work and produce things don’t know anything about what they produce. They are not consumers of their own product. So where do they get their information on how their product is succeeding or failing?”
>They go online, now. They are pulling information from these websites and conversations,” he answered his own rhetorical question. “So what you have now is you have them picking up the most dichotomous points of view and ultimately aligning with then which one they want to believe the most. And then using that sense to basically validate the choices they are making inside the product whether it needs it or not
No, sweetie. Blackrock is dead. No more ESG money for you.
kek I guess something's going on with Blackrock because you're like the 5th /misc/ zombie across multiple boards who i've seen bring that up. i love how you can instantly tell when a new narrative has been fed to you subhumans
>Do you think he's trying to get a job with the Rippaverse or the other comicsgates chuds?
He's already working with Frank Miller you dumbass
What the frick does that mean? Miller's the biggest sjw in the industry.
Now I actually listened to it and it turns out he spends a lot of time defending himself and Jim Lee with the excuse that "outside circumstances" that he doesn't elaborate on ruined all his good ideas. He's claiming innocence by saying he's taking the blame for another without telling who he's protecting. I don't think I'm falling for it. Frick Dan.
Dan a b***h.
Frick off back to Cinemaphile red letter media circle jerk thread.
homie even Alan Moore made fun of HBO watchmen saying racism as bad as nuclear war.
Dan Dildos?
>Dan Didio complaining about DC comics going woke
He was directly responsible for a big chunk of that
I miss Dan.
I didn’t his takes on the Forever People or Metal Men but I appreciate that he wanted to write both, sad that no other modern creative cares about these properties I like.