What do you think of it? I only watched it and read some issues and want to know Cinemaphile‘s stance
What do you think of it? I only watched it and read some issues and want to know?
What do you think of it? I only watched it and read some issues and want to know Cinemaphile‘s stance
the cartoon is gay shit, the comics are alright
the comics are gay shit, the cartoon is alright
the cartoon is gay shit, the comics are gay shit
Cinemaphile is gay shit doesn't read comics
The comic and show were both good, unironically. I enjoyed them.
Tpbp
>Verification not required.
>the comic
Shan’t be reading
>poor worldbuilding
>Derivative everything
The art is cool and Kirkman plotting skills is okay there was better stuff being published in DC and Marvel at the time
>worldbuilding
Invincible doesn't really need worldbuilding. If you're even vaguely familiar with the concept of a superhero, you know everything you need to know about how the world works.
Yes, but kirkman wrote a story with actual continuity and he starts revealing random shit like it's a shonen.
My super normie friend noticed 60% of the characters were black without me mentioning anything to him while we were watching
Off the top of my head all I can remember was the batman parody, amber, and black sampson being black.
Your friend might just be racist for caring so much about that
He was talking about the background characters
The art is nice, it gets very gorey but it also spends inordinate amounts of time on relationshit drama nobody cares about.
I really liked it. I hope we get more cartoons like this in the future.
I still don't get how he goes from Jesus Christ I hope the kid doesn't have powers to don't be a moron we are superior to space ants like it makes no sense, he doesn't experience that kind of development it's a 180 out of nowhere
My only problem is how they really made Nolan irredeemable because it's going to make redeeming him even harder assuming they actually do. I like the characters in the show more than the comics.
the cartoon is a pretty good adaptation of the comics, except for Amber, everything else is pretty much how it happened, though they rearrange some events for more suspense.
The comic is alright, but it does just turn into a dragon ball gore fest later on, and time skips get fricking annoying.
>everything else is pretty much how it happened, though they rearrange some events for more suspense.
This is why the show is so much better, they made Nolan and Mark's relationship the dramatic core of the story. In the comic, Nolan's betrayal and his confrontation with Mark happens so quickly you'd think Kirkman wrote that twist just as shock value meant to bait sales.
>In the comic, Nolan's betrayal and his confrontation with Mark happens so quickly you'd think Kirkman wrote that twist just as shock value meant to bait sales.
In the comic a lot of things feel rushed/underdeveloped. The cartoon has significantly better pacing. It's just flat out superior in so many ways there's really no reason to read the comic.
Comic is overall OK. Starts pretty good if you're fine with some high school drama and some characters being nitwits, then Murderman shows you how he got his name, then he shows everyone what a giant literal gay he is, then things start getting really stupid and disjointed, there's a soft retcon somewhere there, and then it continues being stupid and a little less disjointed towards a not satisfying ending. There are a couple of points where you want to drop it out of boredom and you need to roll your eyes lots, but at no point do you want to physically hurt the author (just call him a hack or a dumbass) and that makes the comic good by today's standards.
Its alright if you're mature enough to handle all the edgy shit and not from an adult perspective but the content and ideas they're trying to share, it's just some realism of life and death with blood/guts/gore. I know its try hard sometimes but at least they're trying to give some real effort into showing the stakes of life and death when super powers are a thing and every individual organism is flawed and carries different values of good/bad/obedient.
With this and Cyberpunk I'd like to see a cartoon adaption of WANTED since they love this edgy style animated drama at Netflix now, WANTED would fit into this category nicely I think..
Like any comic book of the 2000s Invincible is not unique in general Kirkman's best work is TWD and I still find it overrated
>The Talking Dad
The first several volumes. Then art goes to shit, then writing goes to shit, and then writing goes to shit so much that it makes the first time it went to shit look like a hiccup.
TWD suffers from the same problem Invincible does in that it needed to end earlier than it did. TWD had a perfectly good ending point with the conclusion of the Saviors arc, but like a zombie it just kept lingering on. Invincible likewise went on a few too many tangents like Dinosaurus and the Reboot/time skip that turned it into a slog in its latter half
the anime is fun, the comic is the best super hero comic i ever read just because it has an actual good narrative with a beginning, middle and ending.
>the anime
its an american cartoon you fricking weeb.
>It's like shonenslop so it's somehow good
Didn't they have shorter comics back then that did the same thing only better Kirkman wrote this for over 10 years
Show had terrible colors, voice acting (except for the superman guy), sound design, plot changes and also spawned retsrded memes. So even without the israelitery which stinks pretty bad it isn't worth watching and that only gets worse with each season for this kind of thing (young justice, the boys, stranger things etc.)
Comic is mostly good
Cartoon is mostly alright
Development timelines are a fricking b***h - at least other series have the excuse of waiting for more material to adapt, but Invincible finished years ago and we still have to deal with this fricking 2-3 year per season shit.
Invincible American/israeli DBZ
I love DBZ so another DBZ is perfect for me, I love all of its tropes and asspulls.
Just finished this.
Why is amber so shit?
"I knew all along lmao"
She knew but got mad when invincible saves their gay friend from a cyborg?
She knew but missing the soup kitchen was too bad?
What a selfish c**t.
Also, why did Eve get a huge buff to her powers? Suddenly she goes from a green lantern proxy to reality warping.
>Why is amber so shit?
because they wanted to avoid the superhero gf stereotype but made her worse.
>Suddenly she goes from a green lantern proxy to reality warping.
those were her powers
>Those were her powers
She could have done so much more in her first fight with the invading aliens if those were her powers all along.
All she did was make shapes and projectiles out of her lantern energy instead of reconstructing people or making the ground a shield.
Maybe it's handled better in the comic, I haven't read it.
>Maybe it's handled better in the comic, I haven't read it.
There's an explanation for why she can't use her powers to the fullest, but it's a spoiler that the show may or may not say.
The amber discussion was literally the only thing the internet could talk about in terms of criticism for the show, I understand why but holy shit did it get annoying seeing it everywhere.
It was decent as edgy popcorn entertainent but falls apart completely when the Viltrumite Empire is introduced. Genociding half of your own people for the sake of "strengthening the bloodline" is a concept so completely moronic that only a leftist manchild would be stupid enough to write with a straight face.
She was just THAT obnoxious and moronic.
>Genociding half of your own people for the sake of "strengthening the bloodline" is a concept so completely moronic that only a leftist manchild would be stupid enough to write with a straight face
In the comic, it's later revealed there was a whole civil war between the Viltrumites over the direction the empire should go. I got the impression that the "only the strongest remained" part of Nolan's story was propaganda over the fact that the imperial faction won.
That’s just one version of the events - there’s a lot of deliberate misinformation and unreliable narration with regards to the history of the Viltrumite Empire. In some versions the purge takes place before Argall’s assassination, in others it’s the catalyst for it, in some it was thoughtfully planned, in others it was just unmitigated violence, etc.
Kirkman leaves it deliberately vague whether the Viltrumites deliberately set out to wipe out half their population or if it was just the result of civil war and the version we get now is what the survivors tell themselves to make it into a noble pursuit instead of a clusterfrick.
>Genociding half of your own people for the sake of "strengthening the bloodline" is a concept so completely moronic
isnt that what Hitler did though?
>Suddenly she goes from a green lantern proxy to reality warping.
unironically is holding back, shes basically the most powerful hero in the show
i heard everyone who worked on this show was already laid off despite a second season announced
>What do you think of it?
I don't.
The comic was fun but in terms of narrative/characters it was nothing special. It's a 7/10 at best. Are people obsessed with it because it was their first comic?
I'd reckon that, for this place at least, it was the long-ass storytime a while back
Show was alright, mainly because it hasn't gotten to the really shit parts of the comic yet
The only things I remember from the comics was Freddy Mercury villain, the rape, and that one side character who broke up with his hot alien gf because their genitals were incompatible.
>that one side character who broke up with his hot alien gf because their genitals were incompatible.
tech jacket.
They worked it out, but are in an open relationship now. Allen does not approve.
>that one side character who broke up with his hot alien gf because their genitals were incompatible
That guy just wasn't creative enough.
How much do you think will season 2 adapt? The teaser hinted at Angstorm Levy and the Atom Eve origin spinoffs, Kirkman also said the show will have original stories he never got to do in the comic like Invincible and the Guardians of the Globe traveling to hell.
I hope the shaky cam and low FPS are just things for the trailer and that it won't be the actual look for the season
It won't, the trailer was just guest animated by that studio who did that hardcore furry porn comedy cartoon although they are animating the Creature Commandos series.
Plot was idiotic and most characters stupid. Quality of work is, and I'm putting this lightly, extremely inconsistent, often accompanied by super cheap or lazy close up shots. There are some pretty good action scenes, like that fight against space kraken or wathever it was and finale with omniman. Mark seems as fine, although paradoxically for a subversion work, generic protagonist. Omni man stopped being interesting when it turned out that he wasn't a petty egotistic nihilist that was all for himself but some space nazi from unrealistic society of violent morons. Simmons was great, rest of the voice actors did fine enough work. No, I haven't read the comics.
>Subversion
Subversion of what ? it's a standard superhero plot everyone was edgier back then
>Superman, but evil, kills the parody of justice league in first volume/episode, then story is build around it.
Yeah, happens in every standard superhero plot
In the 2000's this kind of story was common, authority you remember that
It was common before that. Supreme, Marshal Law, the evil Superman stand-ins in Marvel and DC themselves. It was a convention of its own by the 2000's.
>unrealistic society of violent morons.
Really? You really think that shit is unrealistic for an objectively superior race when similar has happened multiple times in various civilizations throughout human history where everyone is basically equal?
This is why uneducated morons need to keep their opinions to themselves.
>You really think that shit is unrealistic
>pointing to another moron
I'm not sure what your plan was anon.
Gratuitous race swapping that doesn't make sense based on how Viltrumite DNA works
If they were so committed to making Mark Asian because his VA is, Omni-Man should have been Asian too because his DNA is so compatible with and dominant over human DNA that Mark hardly manifests any of his mother's
That's why other interspecies-Viltrumite hybrids look more different
Weren't there black pure blooded viltrumites in the original comic too?
So if they breed with Asian humans their kids would just look black
With epicanthic folds maybe. I do wonder if the asian ethnicity change was partly inspired by the art style of the late issues of the comic because Mark genuinely does look asian at tines.
Everyone looks asian at times, that's just the style
Based Lucan, badass motherfricker who turns into a big mushy romantic hubby and father.
Comics good cartoon bad
Nah, the comics were shit too.
thanks for the (you)
Comic is overrated but decent. Cartoon is overrated or overhated depending on who you as but it was decent as well.
Easy 7/10 across the board with the comic probably being a 7.5 as it is less infected with amazon bullshit
I am one of the people that read TWD all the way to the very end but i can’t bring myself to give this slop the time of day. It’s just WOT IF SUPAMAN WAS BAD INNIT, it’s like the meme of what people say the boys show is.
Geeker hair lookin' ass
I reread the comic recently and it has pacing problems but it's mostly okay. I don't know how much I actually like Mark. He's fine sometimes and other times I dislike him so I guess that's a decent character. Atom Eve kinda sucks too.
He should've gone through with the stupid time reboot and done a speedrun of the good ending.
>give up the good universe to be with your original wife
>she cheated on you while you were gone
Nah, I completely get Mark being willing to live with all the shit that didn’t turn out great and the mistakes he made if it meant keeping his daughter in the universe.
The whole reboot thing made for a cute what-if, but it was basically the worst way to excuse the time skip. If Kirkman was really determined to have the skip it would have gone a lot better if he just had Mark and Eve staying together and raising Terra during the interim.
It just reminds me of those weird "not marvel/DC" start up series we got way too many of in the 90s like Young Blood and the Ultraverse. It's similarly edgy and blunt but it's not particularly subversive and doesn't really have anything new to say. It doesn't really stand out in any particular way to me and I'm surprised the comic ever took off in the first place.
where is season 2?
Will we get fat atom eve? The only question that matters.
Was wondering about that too
I genuinely think atom eve's design looks like shit.
At least the comic version of Eve close to the ending chapters of the comic.
Her cape looks way too fricking tiny and her symbol looks completely stupid. I do think the show somewhat improved on it.
I never thought Mark was asian in the comics so I was confused when they said he was in the show
probably one of the best superhero stories out there, and it still sucks ass and is boring tedious "and then this happened" nonsense. Watchmen is technically more 'meaningful' and deeper story but it's not actually a superhero story, there are no powers but Manhattan and that exception is explored through how nonsensical, truly alienating and world shattering such powers would be. I think Watchmen is slightly overrated but Moore is trying to deconstruct and use actual storytelling and concept themes with complex characters to tell a story that's actually not about superheroes at all but the weird fetishes and fashions of an alternative universe.
Wolfman is a hack. He's a decent pulp hack and his two big hits are fun and entertaining. I think maybe a few Kirby stories are 'better' than Invincible but these are limited while the Invincible book is long as balls and is all contained somehow (decently between some poor arcs and cringe nonsense that goes no where) much like Walking Dead. But they both have the same problem: good for soap opera, good for superhero nonsense which is more idiotic and colorful soap opera for babies, but outside of that traditiion, the story still FRICKING SUCKS where nothing MEANINGFUL happens and you don't give a FRICK about the soon-to-die named characters that only mattered vaguely for a moment or two and isn't it sad they're dead, moving on!
Wolfman is a SHITTY writer, but he's decent and giving the idiot babies their capesludge swill.
The Astounding Wolf-Man was better and even that went to shit at the very end though the final was okay I guess.
was it kino?
It was pretty whatever if I remember right.
Invincible's ending is a nice conclusion to Mark's story and arc but it does leave the setting with weird implications. Basically Mark's Viltrumite Empire strong-arms various governments and races throughout the galaxy into settling for peace and disarming, he even forcefully disbands the Coalition for simply becoming too big and urbanized.