I hope playable Venom is saved for a spin-off game like Miles got instead of just cramming him into this one. Let's Eddie stand out on his own. I also hope they save Green Goblin for the third game, because I think there's enough going on with Venom and Kraven so far. Wouldn't mind seeing lesser known crooks get side missions too. But what I'd really like is to see some new footage/info soon. When might they show it? It's been a while
More than anything i want them to not make venom a growling/barley talking monster but im not betting on that too storngley.
Second thing is expanding Norman outside of sad dad/mayor guy. I really want him to have more to him than just harry, but i doubt that'd happen.
Oh and like a bunch of different symbiote costumes from over the years, like raimi black and whatnot.
Oh and that they dont give kraven a bunch of high tech glowy weapons.
I mean, you say that as if sony was involved with the plotting of the first game. That was just imnosniac with minimal marvel input.
Eddie is confirmed to exist in a throwaway easter egg, harry is with the symbiote in the big end teaser thing. Im not saying its 100 percent a shoe in, but it is more likley than Eddie. I can also see them making kraven venom off life story since he's in the game as well.
Sony is pushing hero eddie brock venom. Villain venom gonna confuse the casuals. Might as well make villain venom a different person. They rewrote brock as Peters bad friend in spectacular. Now that things is different nothing stopping good friend Eddie from comforting Peter after bad friend harry kicks it.
Is Cinemaphile really this dumb? Venom obviously is getting his own game. You can have him fights Peter and then switch to anti hero
Sony is pushing hero eddie brock venom. Villain venom gonna confuse the casuals. Might as well make villain venom a different person. They rewrote brock as Peters bad friend in spectacular. Now that things is different nothing stopping good friend Eddie from comforting Peter after bad friend harry kicks it.
Well spectacular made Eddie peter's friend to make his turn to villany impact him, taking that from USM. But keeping venom's overall persoanlity from his first bunch of stories in 616.
>Villain venom gonna confuse the casuals
Venom is infinitely more known to casuals as a dark, "evil" Spider-Man than some sort of anti-hero. Nobody gave a frick about the Venom film compared to Spider-Man 3.
>Queens expansion with Peter being nostalgic for his home post-May >Swap-in/swap-out free roam for characters >Stilt-Man references building to the fever dream Peter has where everyone is Stilt-Man and Spider-Man is useless.
The more I think about it the more I realize that Norman is worthless without being able to kill gwen, and having Harry as venom just kinda makes his character ancillary despite him presumable being the antagonist of the next game. The first game was decent but there’s nothing there worth buying a new system over, especially with miles around
>having Harry as venom
This has never been confirmed and it's just everyone making one big assumption. Also I'd like to point out that Norman has and can be hell for Peter's life with or without Gwen
I just find keikaku Norman boring and over played, we’ll see how they have him treat his son but there still isn’t anything that’ll get me to buy a ps5 and support miles. Though the ending of the first game at least implied that Harry has the symbiot, considering that Eddie was nothing but an Easter egg I doubt they’d bring him into it quickly, but who knows
We have Harry and the symbiote in a tube, which from the looks of it the creature doesn't even want to be near him. There's no bonding, almost looking like it's trying to get out. This may be due to Harry's medical condition, and the alien dubbing him a bad host. In fact with the nature of Harry and Kraven being in this game, we have even more reason to believe Norman hired Kravenoff to retrieve the alien after it inevitably escapes because Harry's condition is worsening without it. Harry's likely death could also further send Norman off the deep end into being The Green Goblin thus setting up a third game.
I took it as a hand reaching out to Norman implying that the symbiot shares Harry’s feelings of love towards his father. I also think the kraven plot is going to be norman hiring him to capture A spider-man in order to see if a transfusion could help Harry, it’s a decent way to establish a connection between the symbiot and pete.
>I took it as a hand reaching out to Norman implying that the symbiot shares Harry’s feelings of love towards his father.
I highly doubt that because it's naturally going to be pissed after Norman took it, experimented on it, and slapped him on a shitty host.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Considering the bulk of the story took inspiration from ultimate spider-man, I think it’s safe to assume that this venom is ultimate venom. Hell there is probably a link between how mr negatives powers work and this venom
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Considering the bulk of the story took inspiration from ultimate spider-man
No it didnt >I think it’s safe to assume that this venom is ultimate venom.
A leap in logic.
Again, you're making big assumptions here, specifically that Norman made the symbiote when the Miles game went out of its way to establish an OSCORP space program.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I never played the miles game anon, I dislike the character and refuse to support bendis as a writer, hence why I’m not buying the new game. I’m just going by the information I have, if they’re really just making venom an alien then there really isn’t anything to look forward to in the new game. As bad as ultimate was at least the story they laid out in the game gave Harry having a man made symbiot makes sense, and would give him his own place in the story, just making it an alien means they’re probably gonna ditch Harry in a fake out for Eddie in a vain attempt to establish THAT game franchise, and their really isn’t much to get excited over that. Harry is a more interesting character than Eddie is in the plain sense that he was always a character and it took Eddie a solid 5 years to get to that point
2 years ago
Anonymous
So you hate Bendis (understandable) yet will make mental gymnastics to say "I wanted Ultimate Venom origin" just so you can complain about the game? You're either moronic or a standard Cinemaphiletrarian. I'm leaning on the former because when even given vital context you try to justify headcanon with "I didn't know so it doesn't count". You can't have your cake and eat it too, anon.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Of I’m gonna get venom I either want it to make sense in the logic of the story written OR for them to do a secret wars game where pete finds the symbiot there. I have no interest in Tom hardy venom, especially if it means that Harry is just getting sacrificed for Norman’s story rather than the other way around
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I’m gonna get venom I either want it to make sense in the logic of the story written
Which what I said was completely logical but I also acknowledge could go another way. >for them to do a secret wars game where pete finds the symbiot there.
Yeah that's not happening. Plenty of adaptations have done the symbiote fine without Secret Wars. >I have no interest in Tom hardy venom
Who the frick said anything about Tom Hardy you moron? Before you go "Oh they'll make him like the movie" that wasn't true of anything in the first game. >especially if it means that Harry is just getting sacrificed for Norman’s story
Harry suffering because of his father? Seems like the norm to me
2 years ago
Anonymous
Did you have to use "norm". Cringe pun is cringe
2 years ago
Anonymous
It wasn't an intentional pun.
I dislike most symbiot origins that aren’t secret war anon, I don’t really like venom in general really. I don’t think he’s a compelling character and didn’t add anything other than 90s edge to spidey. The only thing that gave the character even a MODICUM of interest was the fact that the suit never tried to talk to Pete and why that was. There’s nothing in this new game for a spider fan like me with [...] happening it shows that the game is just going to sacrifice peters story for the sake of other characters, and if that’s something you want, fine, but don’t expect everyone else to like it
>I don't have an interest in this game >I don't plan on getting the sequel >I don't like Venom in most incarnations.
Then why the frick are you even here, and who asked for your opinion? I hate Spider-Gwen too but you come off like a moron with a shit ton of baggage getting angry over hypotheticals in his head.
>Ganke and Hailey
I blame Insomniac for don’t put one friend of Peter in the game, like where is Flash, Betty, even Randy if you want a Black person, Peter doesn’t have friends in the game
He's got Yuri
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Yuri
You say that like it's a good thing anon
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yuri is spiderman friend, not Peter.
With gwen they had two options, make her of the age of Peter, people will expect her dead but they can play with that or make her of the age of Miles and do spider gwen bullshit
2 years ago
Anonymous
I dislike most symbiot origins that aren’t secret war anon, I don’t really like venom in general really. I don’t think he’s a compelling character and didn’t add anything other than 90s edge to spidey. The only thing that gave the character even a MODICUM of interest was the fact that the suit never tried to talk to Pete and why that was. There’s nothing in this new game for a spider fan like me with
Can't wait for the inevitable miles x gwen ship
happening it shows that the game is just going to sacrifice peters story for the sake of other characters, and if that’s something you want, fine, but don’t expect everyone else to like it
2 years ago
Anonymous
>norman creates venom and gives it to harry
That is literally the plot in USM.
>Ganke and Hailey
I blame Insomniac for don’t put one friend of Peter in the game, like where is Flash, Betty, even Randy if you want a Black person, Peter doesn’t have friends in the game
And yet the argument was always that Spider-Gwen is diluting the character of Gwen and that her dating Miles is shitty because it's still supposed to be Gwen, and it was met with "b-b-but Spider-Gwen is not the REAL Gwen!!" justifications by cucks
Why do you care? So long as they don't pull underage crap that makes the Redditas, twitterettes, and Tumblrinas cry foul there's nothing factually problematic about pairing Miles with the has been love interest and a never was in insomniac. Peter's got MJ and that's all he needs
is no one going to point out that gwen would be too old for miles in this universe? Also I wish spidey would leave MJ for Gwen in this universe, MJ is such a b***h.
Are you being moronic on purpose? Gwen would most definitely be around Peter's age of course. Also I just grabbed a random image of gwen stacy off google idc about whatever autistic issue you have with her.
Not that anon, but adaptations do change character generations and ages all the time. I mean this game alone made Otto and Norman far older than they were in that time period. It wouldnt be unprecedented for them to make her Miles's classmate.
>I mean this game alone made Otto and Norman far older than they were in that time period
Otto was old enough to hit on Aunt May in his old appearances without it coming off as weird. Don't think the ages are that different at all. Don't even know where you're getting Norman's age from, sliding time-scale leaves us always guessing and approximating characters's ages.
I think the most likley thing is making her Miles's classmate, altough altenrativley i guess i could see them making her harry's gf or something like that.
I legit don't understand why they're so against casting him as Spidey again. DC embraces Kevin Conroy as the definitive Bruce, but Disney keeps getting new actors all the time. Josh even voiced Electro in the game, so they can clearly still get a hold of him, they just won't let him voice Peter
I just want a segment that’s a flashback to the first game, where you play as Kraven escaping the same prison the Sinister Six broke out of that one scene.
The venom symbiote goes to Gwen who becomes the 3rd playable character. Peter gets tech/gadgets, Miles has venom/Cloak, Gwen has Symbiotic Abilities/ maybe some light shape-shifting.
A) comic writers hardly remember she has a symbiote because it’s that unimportant and B) if anyone is going to have playable symbiote powers it’s going to be Venom
what i'd like >Yakuza minigame shit, unironically. more small, goofy stories and small things to do. Spider-Man games don't really capture the "friendly neighborhood" part of spider-man. let me play checkers with an old man or darts with captain boomerang, fix someone's satellite dish, get a cat out of a tree, something that isn't a fight or a platforming/navigation challenge. >better enemy variety. base combat in spider-man was good but you never really got surprised, just mooks with guns mostly. more shit that makes you think >a map that feels denser with more nitty gritty details. >a story that's solid and comprehensible on its own merits and isn't setting up 50 different things in spider-man 3
what i'm expecting >MORE MORE MORE >more collectibles, more combat missions, more everything >the combat is pretty much the same though you have some fresh moves that you never feel obligated to use >the map is very similar albeit with some new touches >story is bloated as frick with two povs, tons of converging plotlines and constant teases for what's next
Yeah I basically agree with this. I'm simple enough to get mileage out of just swinging and tricking around when I'm bored but I wish there was just more to occupy your time during free roam instead of just playing through the story and the same 5 criminal encounters.
>Spider-Man game but with Yakuza substories and minigames where Spidey just gets to goof around inbetween crimefighting
Holy frick I need this. I suppose the closest we'll ever get to that feel is with Yakuza 0 Spider-Man mod
Hope they don't suffer from a too many cooks in the kitchen scenario like the later Arkham games did. Already we have >Kraven (normally he'd be a side character but they seem to be building him up in this one if the trailer is anything to go by) >Venom (possibly both Harry and Eddie) >Gobbo >Doc Ock/Superior Spider-Man (they mentioned the reason he built the tentacles was because his body was falling apart and I think Spock Ock met him briefly in a jail cell during the first Spider-Verse
That's not even including the side characters that are sure to show up like Sandman, Mysterio, and Lizard.
>Kraven (normally he'd be a side character but they seem to be building him up in this one if the trailer is anything to go by)
Remember Mr. Negative was built up to be the big bad in the PS4 game as well, but it turned out to be Doc Ock
>Mr. Negative
You just reminded me how disappointed I was playing the game and how a good third of it was just fighting Mr. Negative's goons. Wished they didn't save the Sinister Six for the final third.
>What do you want to see in the next Spiderman game?
Accurate costumes
Black Cat with cleavage and big boobs
Queen Globin and Spider-Womam
all women with feminine faces
The first game is just alright. If anything I want the entire game to be as nutty as the prison break sequence in the first one.
And fix the swinging, the physics are wonky.
I think the physic stunk. The fast way to swing was to stick right at the bottom of the arc once speed was build up. It clearly force your character forward unnaturally on release. No skill to learning it.
>More side quests like the Tombstone one >Solo Scorpion fight >Aerial combat similar to Web of Shadows >Chameleon boss fight where Peter has to use his brains >Ben's Spidey suit >Unlimited suit >Amazing 2 suit
I'd want the wall combat from web of shadows as well. I know people find that cumbersome and not deep but damn it, he's the WALL CRAWLER and I want some cool mechanics tied to it. Oh and yeah a fight with Chameleon where you have to use your Spider-sense like detective vision or some other cool way to see who is the Chameleon would be cool. But detective vision sucks sometimes but I don't know how else you'd do it. And man, Venom needs to retain his menace with him tracking Peter across the city on some mission where you need to shake him off your trail while getting back to an area where you fight him. Though Kraven kinda has that schtick with him being a hunter and all. I still feel like the boss fights will be watered down like the first game. Just wishful thinking I guess.
Spider-Gwen is as much Gwen as the PS4 MJ is MJ, they're not even fricking close but they're still supposed to be multiverse variants of the same person
Idk, it was pretty slapped on the first game and didnt really help it too much. Given that this game has symbiote stuff and Gwen does have that tie, there is a higher chance on that than id like.
And i dont think they'll make her his love intrest necessarily.
I think playable venom is more likley, but given just how much marvel pushes spider-gwen she's far far more likley than silk.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Silk is getting her own show/movie (eventually), can easily be incorporated in this universe, and would actually bring something new to the table gameplay wise than Gwen. Push or not, I just don’t see it working well. I feel like Miles is the Spider-Verse advertisement anyway.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You say that, but spider-gwen is the one they put in all media regardless of it makes sense or not, so more comparable to Miles there.
I do prefer Silk mind you. But she seems less likley.
>I mean this game alone made Otto and Norman far older than they were in that time period
Otto was old enough to hit on Aunt May in his old appearances without it coming off as weird. Don't think the ages are that different at all. Don't even know where you're getting Norman's age from, sliding time-scale leaves us always guessing and approximating characters's ages.
It did defintely come off as weird in those old appereances.
Within the game the ages are in the bios. It was mentioned in the comics that Norman was in his 50s when peter was in his 30s (when he was a HS teacher) so he was defintely younger than here
Proof of this claim? Since he was teased from the very first trailer?
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Am I supposed to take these comments seriously when these exact people had no problems shipping Peter + Kamala in both the 2017 Spider-Man show and the MCU? The hypocrisy is staggering.
It was either the production booklet or the art one, and it said one of the last rewrites he was added. And the last draft would be done BEFORE they would start rendering anything.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>when these exact people had no problems shipping Peter + Kamala in both the 2017 Spider-Man show and the MCU?
What's the issue there
The point is Gwen at best is just wishful (stupid) thinking at this point. There are no hints or teases that she even exists in this universe, and a 3rd spider bite just seems contrived
2 years ago
Anonymous
But if it’s what don’t wants it’s what they’re gonna get. We’re already guaranteed to get a part in the game where you’re FORCED to play as miles to save peter after he b***hes out in a fight against kraven. So why not just turn him into a full in cuck? They already did in the the side game
2 years ago
Anonymous
>They already did in the the side game
Peter was quite literally not in the game after the first few minutes
2 years ago
Anonymous
>peter wasn’t in the game after he jobbed like a b***h
Duh
I can dream.
Few people realize HOW much better the web swinging was in 2, yes the new game made it more fluid, but it was super satisfying to get across the city in 2
2 years ago
Anonymous
You need help
2 years ago
Anonymous
I dont wish for it, but i can see it happening. If nothing else because of the whole "who says she's even dead" thing, and such an usage of modern spider-man stuff.
2 years ago
Anonymous
My guess is that she would be involved in a Spider Island type situation orcestrated by the Jackal. That way they could give us new enemy types too. Tie it into Otto cloning a superior spider body.
2 years ago
Anonymous
that's why she will be the part of MIles' caste
2 years ago
Anonymous
Peter can get with Black Cat. This is where its at
2 years ago
Anonymous
>pic
they deserve each other
2 years ago
Anonymous
Very cute at least
2 years ago
Anonymous
Gonna need more evidence than a vague "trust me bro." 'cause it smells like bullshit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
So i was wrong, the original idea was that he would just be a cameo in the post credit scene... https://ew.com/gaming/game-on-inside-marvel-games/
Proof of this claim? Since he was teased from the very first trailer?
There goes the "b-b-but Spider-Gwen is not the REAL Gwen!!" argument
Am I supposed to take these comments seriously when these exact people had no problems shipping Peter + Kamala in both the 2017 Spider-Man show and the MCU? The hypocrisy is staggering.
I'm pretty pissed about there not being a Co-Op mode.
I don't wanna just switch between the characters, I want my friend to be able to pick up to controller and take over as Miles and do some sick team up combos.
I thought the combat would be too similar to the Arkham games, but I was pleasantly surprised when it allowed for a good bit of creativity. I hope i opens up the combat even more.
Silk doesn’t have webshooters, she naturally weaves complex web constructs from her fingertips organically. That’s how she suits up, creating a new suit every time. From a gameplay perspective the combat potential is limitless
I really only think it was a portion of him that could occasionally move. Too small to fit all of Sandy. But you're right, Sandman and Mysterio would look BEAUTIFUL on 4k PS5. Should Mysterio be a main game villain or a side mission guy? I'd love it if he had those eyeball shaped drones to help cast holograms. Lizard is practically confirmed for the main game, but I'd also like to see Vermin cameo in a side mission
How would you write him in the plot though? A secondary hidden foe hired by Norman in secret because he didn't full trust Kraven? I do hope the previous S6 return as random street crimes
I can see him being freed by kraven to be a test run for spider-man, maybe alongside chamaleon so we have 1 foe for each spider.
The ones i see returning most likley are Electro (altough mostly due to keaton being the va) and shocker. Vulture should be dead by then and all.
Nightmare fuel worse than the prison Tony used in Civil war tbh
Yep
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Vulture should be dead by then and all.
Why would you even want that? Vulture was based, and should be a random crime
2 years ago
Anonymous
His motivation was that he was dying of cancer...
2 years ago
Anonymous
The suit was keeping him alive. Besides you don't have to kill him off. This is fiction dude
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not saying they have to, but i doubt they'd keep the suit in prison.
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honestly i'd like to see the death of Vulture as a plot point.
The dematties story about that was kino, but i dont think they'll be able to capture it.
Fricking why? Let's just have fun with Spidey rogues for frick sake. Plus if we go your route, they'd just introduce Starling. Also maybe I just want to have fun with Spider-Man rogues and not think about the fact that my dad died of cancer
I mean, they choose to give him that motivation and then have it have no impact whatsoever in anything, not even in his interactions with spider-man.
And im sorry anon.
Look he does this a lot in Spidey threads and gives Feliciagays a bad name. Can we get back on topic? How will Norman look as Green Goblin do you think? Will he appear in this game or the next? I'm inclined to say the next one
Next one probably, but im bettng he's just going to be a mess of tech. The mask in ps4 isnt too good already.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't hate these. Depends on execution and his laugh
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I mean, they choose to give him that motivation
You mean the same bullshit we always go through with his old ass?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Vulture should be dead by then and all.
Why would you even want that? Vulture was based, and should be a random crime
His motivation was that he was dying of cancer...
The suit was keeping him alive. Besides you don't have to kill him off. This is fiction dude
honestly i'd like to see the death of Vulture as a plot point.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Fricking why? Let's just have fun with Spidey rogues for frick sake. Plus if we go your route, they'd just introduce Starling. Also maybe I just want to have fun with Spider-Man rogues and not think about the fact that my dad died of cancer
Not who posted two hours ago but I follow Spidey across several media and I love Peter that's why we can tell you Felicia is the one person for Peter.
And at this point you know the weird thing is keep trying to deny it, right?
2 years ago
Anonymous
You can say its not you but its obvious your the same sad exuse for an adult. Your worse than a twelve year old girl squeeing over her otp. At least she'd kinda adorable in a childish way
2 years ago
Anonymous
I like peter and felicia (and in this game more than peter/mj), but its weird that this anon always uses the exact same phrasing and brings it up in totally unrelated spider-man threads.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Frankly I'm glad I don't care at all about who fricks who and just want the girls respected
Look he does this a lot in Spidey threads and gives Feliciagays a bad name. Can we get back on topic? How will Norman look as Green Goblin do you think? Will he appear in this game or the next? I'm inclined to say the next one
2 years ago
Anonymous
Techno suit. Next game. Ehhh... not all that excited about the Osborns. No offense meant to anyone who likes them ofc. They're not my thing.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I like the goblins, but Norman being mayor and doing the "harry's sick" plot have diminished my intrest a lot.
I don't hate these. Depends on execution and his laugh
I dont hate them either, but they're not ideal.
I dunno if he'll be that entertaining, he seems far too serious in the story so far.
>I mean, they choose to give him that motivation
You mean the same bullshit we always go through with his old ass?
Vulture's only had the "im dying" plot once. Which in an attempt to reverse it led to the shitty youth vampire thing.
Outside of that vulture is usually mad at someone for having wronged him, or stealing his tech or even finding out some secret family.
2 years ago
Anonymous
How do you feel about Hobie Brown being shafted again? I suppose we can say Hobie originally built the suit and Aaron stole it.
Let's not waste a character on dumb bullshit like that. Vulture should stay
2 years ago
Anonymous
I dislike hobie being shafted, but it comes with Miles being so prominent here.
Again, the first game set that up, and barely even used it. No one forced them to. If they're going to do a plot like that in their own self contained continuity they should let it play out.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Also being totaly honest, vulture wanting to settle all old scores and apologize to aunt may was the best story he ever had.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Dude, how is this a hard concept to get? PEOPLE WANT TO SEE VULTURE.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Anon i feel you're using this too strongly, again what im saying is that the first game went with an idea, which doesnt really lead to vulture being too usable afterwards. They did the same thing with ock frankly.
Its not particularly hard to get.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I just find you incredibly fricking frustrating because you read too much into shit and think this is our first rodeo with such a plot point. They even address the suit is keeping him alive. But no you have to keep hammering on it because someone doesn't care to explore the idea any further and only further begs the introduction like a shit knockoff like Starling. It's fricking comic books, it's an easy work around
2 years ago
Anonymous
And the suit would have been fricking removed in prison because he was just involved in a major terorist attack dude.
I'm not saying i want starling, or drago or natale or shallot or the vultorions, but again this is a game, they dont have the same rule of keeping characters around that the comics do.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>And the suit would have been fricking removed in prison
Right because RAFT staff would just let him die and made sure to remove everyone else's suits too. Also the sickness shit is redundant thanks to Harry. You can keep repeating yourself as much as you want, it's still a shit idea, Anon. ITS A GAME, I WANT TO HAVE FUN, I WANT TO KEEP FIGHTING VULTURE. Jesus Christ
2 years ago
Anonymous
Rhino and scorpion explcitly cant be separated from their suits in the game, that's not the case with vulture. Altough i guess that'd depend on how good a lawyer he has.
Yes, just as its redundant with Ock also being sick. Ps4 really abused that one plot point didnt it? Man is eddie going to have cancer too? There's precedent after all. Imnsoniac can be really repetitive.
And anon you're taking this too seriously, even if they dont have him die, i geniunly doubt they'd use him again when he was a bonus boss fight in miles's game.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>And anon you're taking this too seriously,
No I'm just fricking annoyed because you refuse to let this go and feel like you're trying to convince me otherwise. Take the damn hint and move on man
2 years ago
Anonymous
I just tought it was a simple conversation anon, not this huge deal. But sure we can move on.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I think he might be trying to help vulture fans feel better if he's not used and it just reads bad because we're all online and can't determine tones and whatnot
Read fanfics. Just check the 'rape/non con' warning on ao3 and filter for five with the 'most comments to be shown 'first they'll give you your bizarre fetish anon
Can we drop the vulture thing. I'd personally like to see him used and people obviously have some strong feelings one way or another and this doesn't seem like it is going to go anywhere good
I think anon is genuinely autistic and doesn't grasp the fact that someone doesn't want a contrived cancer plotline due to personal reasons and only serve to limit creative potential in the game. But you're right, it's just getting dumb.
I'm hoping for a lot of side characters, especially C and D listers
Nah, i just tought it was a bit weird the other anon kept shooting down something that was set up in the other game, not actually autistic (not that there's anything wrong with that :)).
Beetle would be fun. Could work even better given her dad was in the last game.
Who else thought it was weird such a big plot point with Yuri was put in DLC? How do you think she'll look? Would she and Black Cat make good playable characters?
Something had to happen in the DLC after all, It seems like wrath is going to be directly antagonistic from the get go, which is definitely a route.
I think he might be trying to help vulture fans feel better if he's not used and it just reads bad because we're all online and can't determine tones and whatnot
Yeah, i do like vulture, i dont want to make it seem like i dont.
I do feel he (like most of the six) was a bit wasted in the first game.
>Something had to happen in the DLC after all
Yeah but not that big of a plot point. Why not just give us a standard Hammerhead story without turning him into a mock Silvermane too?
Using it once was fine, twice raised an eyebrow, but devotion to it as a general plot makes me wonder if someone might have had something going on in the background that we're not privy to.
That's my thought on Zeb Wells anon. I can't exactly go and ask him if his wife/an ex had a child aborted/stillborn or it happened with one of his siblings but I wonder about that sometimes...
2 years ago
Anonymous
2 years ago
Anonymous
No that's mackie, who had cancer and dealt with it in his ghost rider.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's everyone who suffers loss, gets sick, knows someone like that. It's a coping mechanism. Wells is nowhere near Pratchett's skill but my favorite example is Terry Pratchett.
There's: >Li's origin >Otto >Vulture >Harry >Phin's brother
It does seem like something imnosniac loves, just like "spider-man's friend becomes a villain" >Li >Otto >Yuri >Tinkerer >Venom (regardless of if its eddie or harry)
2 years ago
Anonymous
Someone who has a better memory than me could come up with a longer list but I'd like to list >May Parker >Harry's mom >x number of civilians
2 years ago
Anonymous
Oh true as well.
Someone on the writing team must think its the cleverest plot point.
Who else thought it was weird such a big plot point with Yuri was put in DLC? How do you think she'll look? Would she and Black Cat make good playable characters?
Riot because it'd be funny
Ultimate and TaS for their animated style skins (plus I wanna see that red/blue highlight in 3d a little)
Spider-venom
Punisher?
Lee price (character was lame but suit was neat)
Maybe space knight at a stretch
>Small segment as peter against venom at the beginning of the game >Peter gets infected with symbiote >Perspective switches to Miles. You will play as Miles Morales for most of the game trying to stop black suit peter >Kraven is a joke villain you defeat in one punch
Calling it now
You see I think that peters gonna job to kraven THEN get infected by the symbiot then you play as miles for the rest of the game. There’s no doubt you have to play as miles to stop venom pete
I want to be surprised and see no Harry as Venom or any recognition of Norman. I'm fatigued by the characters and the stupid memes they produce. I want them finished and for Marvel to drag out different villains. If we must have a goblin, there is an excess to choose from: pick one.
Playable Venom (Free Roam)
More Than a Single Wave of Stealth
Throwable Vehicles
Web Stream (Not Just Blasts)
More Grappling (30 Story Body Slam)
Slingshot
Green Goblin Tease
Wall Combat
No Screwball
Kraven
Mysterio
Instant Switch Symbiote
Fall Damage
Killable NPCs
Eddie Brock Setup
Venom vs Wolverine
Daredevil Mission
Miles Beat Down
No MJ Missions
Sandman
Cell Shaded Models
Peter vs SymMiles
Black Cat Missions
Electro
Human Torch Race
Otto Octavius
Local co-op
Hobgoblin
Symbiote Endgame Free Roam
Comic Accurate Skin-Tight (like TASM 2) Suits
Web Speed+
The Lizard
Sandman
I hope playable Venom is saved for a spin-off game like Miles got instead of just cramming him into this one. Let's Eddie stand out on his own. I also hope they save Green Goblin for the third game, because I think there's enough going on with Venom and Kraven so far. Wouldn't mind seeing lesser known crooks get side missions too. But what I'd really like is to see some new footage/info soon. When might they show it? It's been a while
I really doubt they'll do Eddie, everything seems to indicate they'll go with harry. Or hell even kranom is more likley.
I really don't see SONY creating brand confusion when most casuals associate Eddie with Venom. Plus Eddie is already confirmed for this universe.
More than anything i want them to not make venom a growling/barley talking monster but im not betting on that too storngley.
Second thing is expanding Norman outside of sad dad/mayor guy. I really want him to have more to him than just harry, but i doubt that'd happen.
Oh and like a bunch of different symbiote costumes from over the years, like raimi black and whatnot.
Oh and that they dont give kraven a bunch of high tech glowy weapons.
I mean, you say that as if sony was involved with the plotting of the first game. That was just imnosniac with minimal marvel input.
Eddie is confirmed to exist in a throwaway easter egg, harry is with the symbiote in the big end teaser thing. Im not saying its 100 percent a shoe in, but it is more likley than Eddie. I can also see them making kraven venom off life story since he's in the game as well.
Is Cinemaphile really this dumb? Venom obviously is getting his own game. You can have him fights Peter and then switch to anti hero
Sony is pushing hero eddie brock venom. Villain venom gonna confuse the casuals. Might as well make villain venom a different person. They rewrote brock as Peters bad friend in spectacular. Now that things is different nothing stopping good friend Eddie from comforting Peter after bad friend harry kicks it.
Well spectacular made Eddie peter's friend to make his turn to villany impact him, taking that from USM. But keeping venom's overall persoanlity from his first bunch of stories in 616.
Doesn't stop Sony from making modern comics eddie? Last game was influenced by what was in the comics then. what we see will be taking cues too
Of all the comics why they have to took inspiration of Brand New Day
why focus on the past when it's a brand new day?
Your pun is lame
At most Ps4 was influenced by BND which was like 10 years old by the time ps4 released.
And given how the symbiote seems to be manmade, not a lot of room for cates's cosmic shit there.
Gage was a writer for the game so.
Smells like unearned idealism
One's gotta have something.
We dont know both ways, but he was just one of 4 writers for it.
good luck idealist. hope they don't disappoint you.
Oh i am preparing for the worst, and hoping for the best. More likley reality will lay in the middle.
Will Gage be writing the new game? What's his opinion on venom?
Scientist Eddie was bizarre
I get it from the dark-peter angle, which is what Spec was going all in for.
Depends, given how the miles game had such a big drop off in sales maybe they wont do more spin offs.
Eh it did fine considering the context. Most waited for the ps5 to be available. I just want some news already
Idk, it sold 7 million units compared to 33 of the first game, that's a bit of a drop off.
I do think venom/or some symbiote character will probably be playable in the third game mind you.
You also have to figure that it wasn’t a sequel either, which can affect sales.
Naturally, but i feel that the lack of real adveterisment helped too, which ps5 seems to also be falling into.
>Villain venom gonna confuse the casuals
Venom is infinitely more known to casuals as a dark, "evil" Spider-Man than some sort of anti-hero. Nobody gave a frick about the Venom film compared to Spider-Man 3.
That and even with the movies he’s associated as a “bad guy”
A hyphen. Also:
>Queens expansion with Peter being nostalgic for his home post-May
>Swap-in/swap-out free roam for characters
>Stilt-Man references building to the fever dream Peter has where everyone is Stilt-Man and Spider-Man is useless.
Spiderman. Come for me Based high school teacher.
An attractive female character.
It will never happen, did you see the female villain in Miles Morales game?
RIP
Why was she tinkerer again?
Couldnt they just have given her a new identitiy?
Jack off before playing the game coomer
The more I think about it the more I realize that Norman is worthless without being able to kill gwen, and having Harry as venom just kinda makes his character ancillary despite him presumable being the antagonist of the next game. The first game was decent but there’s nothing there worth buying a new system over, especially with miles around
>having Harry as venom
This has never been confirmed and it's just everyone making one big assumption. Also I'd like to point out that Norman has and can be hell for Peter's life with or without Gwen
I just find keikaku Norman boring and over played, we’ll see how they have him treat his son but there still isn’t anything that’ll get me to buy a ps5 and support miles. Though the ending of the first game at least implied that Harry has the symbiot, considering that Eddie was nothing but an Easter egg I doubt they’d bring him into it quickly, but who knows
We have Harry and the symbiote in a tube, which from the looks of it the creature doesn't even want to be near him. There's no bonding, almost looking like it's trying to get out. This may be due to Harry's medical condition, and the alien dubbing him a bad host. In fact with the nature of Harry and Kraven being in this game, we have even more reason to believe Norman hired Kravenoff to retrieve the alien after it inevitably escapes because Harry's condition is worsening without it. Harry's likely death could also further send Norman off the deep end into being The Green Goblin thus setting up a third game.
I took it as a hand reaching out to Norman implying that the symbiot shares Harry’s feelings of love towards his father. I also think the kraven plot is going to be norman hiring him to capture A spider-man in order to see if a transfusion could help Harry, it’s a decent way to establish a connection between the symbiot and pete.
>I took it as a hand reaching out to Norman implying that the symbiot shares Harry’s feelings of love towards his father.
I highly doubt that because it's naturally going to be pissed after Norman took it, experimented on it, and slapped him on a shitty host.
Considering the bulk of the story took inspiration from ultimate spider-man, I think it’s safe to assume that this venom is ultimate venom. Hell there is probably a link between how mr negatives powers work and this venom
>Considering the bulk of the story took inspiration from ultimate spider-man
No it didnt
>I think it’s safe to assume that this venom is ultimate venom.
A leap in logic.
Again, you're making big assumptions here, specifically that Norman made the symbiote when the Miles game went out of its way to establish an OSCORP space program.
I never played the miles game anon, I dislike the character and refuse to support bendis as a writer, hence why I’m not buying the new game. I’m just going by the information I have, if they’re really just making venom an alien then there really isn’t anything to look forward to in the new game. As bad as ultimate was at least the story they laid out in the game gave Harry having a man made symbiot makes sense, and would give him his own place in the story, just making it an alien means they’re probably gonna ditch Harry in a fake out for Eddie in a vain attempt to establish THAT game franchise, and their really isn’t much to get excited over that. Harry is a more interesting character than Eddie is in the plain sense that he was always a character and it took Eddie a solid 5 years to get to that point
So you hate Bendis (understandable) yet will make mental gymnastics to say "I wanted Ultimate Venom origin" just so you can complain about the game? You're either moronic or a standard Cinemaphiletrarian. I'm leaning on the former because when even given vital context you try to justify headcanon with "I didn't know so it doesn't count". You can't have your cake and eat it too, anon.
Of I’m gonna get venom I either want it to make sense in the logic of the story written OR for them to do a secret wars game where pete finds the symbiot there. I have no interest in Tom hardy venom, especially if it means that Harry is just getting sacrificed for Norman’s story rather than the other way around
>I’m gonna get venom I either want it to make sense in the logic of the story written
Which what I said was completely logical but I also acknowledge could go another way.
>for them to do a secret wars game where pete finds the symbiot there.
Yeah that's not happening. Plenty of adaptations have done the symbiote fine without Secret Wars.
>I have no interest in Tom hardy venom
Who the frick said anything about Tom Hardy you moron? Before you go "Oh they'll make him like the movie" that wasn't true of anything in the first game.
>especially if it means that Harry is just getting sacrificed for Norman’s story
Harry suffering because of his father? Seems like the norm to me
Did you have to use "norm". Cringe pun is cringe
It wasn't an intentional pun.
>I don't have an interest in this game
>I don't plan on getting the sequel
>I don't like Venom in most incarnations.
Then why the frick are you even here, and who asked for your opinion? I hate Spider-Gwen too but you come off like a moron with a shit ton of baggage getting angry over hypotheticals in his head.
He's got Yuri
>Yuri
You say that like it's a good thing anon
Yuri is spiderman friend, not Peter.
With gwen they had two options, make her of the age of Peter, people will expect her dead but they can play with that or make her of the age of Miles and do spider gwen bullshit
I dislike most symbiot origins that aren’t secret war anon, I don’t really like venom in general really. I don’t think he’s a compelling character and didn’t add anything other than 90s edge to spidey. The only thing that gave the character even a MODICUM of interest was the fact that the suit never tried to talk to Pete and why that was. There’s nothing in this new game for a spider fan like me with
happening it shows that the game is just going to sacrifice peters story for the sake of other characters, and if that’s something you want, fine, but don’t expect everyone else to like it
>norman creates venom and gives it to harry
That is literally the plot in USM.
Way to miss the point, idiot
You had no point.
Too much Osborn plot
>keikaku Norman
What other kind of Norman is there?
Get rid of the repetitive missions
How much do you think Miles will be important to the story? Venom and Harry are core aspects of Peter
Venom has never been a “core aspect” of peter, it was a marketing gimmick made a paper thin gimmick villain that took off
Mary Jane to be cool.
A grim and gritty Spidercide. With pouches.
Can't wait for the inevitable miles x gwen ship
I'd believe Silk being in the game/playable before Spider-Gwen.
Ugh. Put him with one of his real love interests you turds.
>Ganke and Hailey
I blame Insomniac for don’t put one friend of Peter in the game, like where is Flash, Betty, even Randy if you want a Black person, Peter doesn’t have friends in the game
There goes the "b-b-but Spider-Gwen is not the REAL Gwen!!" argument
But she isn’t?
see
What point, that even redditors know the pairing is shit? You can call her Gwen all day, doesn’t make her the character
what is your point?
Same thing applies to the Gwen collective
And yet the argument was always that Spider-Gwen is diluting the character of Gwen and that her dating Miles is shitty because it's still supposed to be Gwen, and it was met with "b-b-but Spider-Gwen is not the REAL Gwen!!" justifications by cucks
Why do you care? So long as they don't pull underage crap that makes the Redditas, twitterettes, and Tumblrinas cry foul there's nothing factually problematic about pairing Miles with the has been love interest and a never was in insomniac. Peter's got MJ and that's all he needs
cuck
If you're here for capeshit your a cuck fanboy
is no one going to point out that gwen would be too old for miles in this universe? Also I wish spidey would leave MJ for Gwen in this universe, MJ is such a b***h.
He's 17 and we don't know how old she is or how old they'll be when they meet. You posted with an Emma Stone pic as rage bait loser
Are you being moronic on purpose? Gwen would most definitely be around Peter's age of course. Also I just grabbed a random image of gwen stacy off google idc about whatever autistic issue you have with her.
Not that anon, but adaptations do change character generations and ages all the time. I mean this game alone made Otto and Norman far older than they were in that time period. It wouldnt be unprecedented for them to make her Miles's classmate.
>I mean this game alone made Otto and Norman far older than they were in that time period
Otto was old enough to hit on Aunt May in his old appearances without it coming off as weird. Don't think the ages are that different at all. Don't even know where you're getting Norman's age from, sliding time-scale leaves us always guessing and approximating characters's ages.
Oldest Insomni-gwen would possibly be is 19. They wouldn't make her older. College freshman most likely.
I think the most likley thing is making her Miles's classmate, altough altenrativley i guess i could see them making her harry's gf or something like that.
Better swinging, fixed face, better wall-crawling, better story, Josh Keaton as Peter, Miles' gf having more screentime than MJ
How old is she?
Underage I hope
Damn. If she is underage then I will exercise restraint in writing objectifying thoughts.
>Josh Keaton as Peter
If only
I legit don't understand why they're so against casting him as Spidey again. DC embraces Kevin Conroy as the definitive Bruce, but Disney keeps getting new actors all the time. Josh even voiced Electro in the game, so they can clearly still get a hold of him, they just won't let him voice Peter
The Disney masters don't want to be reminded another company made the best animated Spider-Man
A better love interest for Peter
This one isn't underage right?
That is Miles' mom.
This is mama Rio
The pic in
is from Rio Morales CGI porn.
Boobs and cleavage are not allowed in Sony/Disney games
Wrong photo, sorry guys.
I just want a segment that’s a flashback to the first game, where you play as Kraven escaping the same prison the Sinister Six broke out of that one scene.
Co-op will be nice.
Make it more street level where Punisher is the main antagonist.
I would love a DD team-up mission if we're going street level.
GoblinCucks and MilesBlack folk btfo again.
Good stealth mission
The venom symbiote goes to Gwen who becomes the 3rd playable character. Peter gets tech/gadgets, Miles has venom/Cloak, Gwen has Symbiotic Abilities/ maybe some light shape-shifting.
A) comic writers hardly remember she has a symbiote because it’s that unimportant and B) if anyone is going to have playable symbiote powers it’s going to be Venom
I hope Peter doesn't get fricking murdered.
i hope peter gets superior spider-man'd
Frick off Slott
They are doing a set up for it and if gage is on writing he'll do it
what i'd like
>Yakuza minigame shit, unironically. more small, goofy stories and small things to do. Spider-Man games don't really capture the "friendly neighborhood" part of spider-man. let me play checkers with an old man or darts with captain boomerang, fix someone's satellite dish, get a cat out of a tree, something that isn't a fight or a platforming/navigation challenge.
>better enemy variety. base combat in spider-man was good but you never really got surprised, just mooks with guns mostly. more shit that makes you think
>a map that feels denser with more nitty gritty details.
>a story that's solid and comprehensible on its own merits and isn't setting up 50 different things in spider-man 3
what i'm expecting
>MORE MORE MORE
>more collectibles, more combat missions, more everything
>the combat is pretty much the same though you have some fresh moves that you never feel obligated to use
>the map is very similar albeit with some new touches
>story is bloated as frick with two povs, tons of converging plotlines and constant teases for what's next
Yeah I basically agree with this. I'm simple enough to get mileage out of just swinging and tricking around when I'm bored but I wish there was just more to occupy your time during free roam instead of just playing through the story and the same 5 criminal encounters.
>Spider-Man game but with Yakuza substories and minigames where Spidey just gets to goof around inbetween crimefighting
Holy frick I need this. I suppose the closest we'll ever get to that feel is with Yakuza 0 Spider-Man mod
Tinkerer should've been an old white guy.
Hope they don't suffer from a too many cooks in the kitchen scenario like the later Arkham games did. Already we have
>Kraven (normally he'd be a side character but they seem to be building him up in this one if the trailer is anything to go by)
>Venom (possibly both Harry and Eddie)
>Gobbo
>Doc Ock/Superior Spider-Man (they mentioned the reason he built the tentacles was because his body was falling apart and I think Spock Ock met him briefly in a jail cell during the first Spider-Verse
That's not even including the side characters that are sure to show up like Sandman, Mysterio, and Lizard.
>Kraven (normally he'd be a side character but they seem to be building him up in this one if the trailer is anything to go by)
Remember Mr. Negative was built up to be the big bad in the PS4 game as well, but it turned out to be Doc Ock
>Mr. Negative
You just reminded me how disappointed I was playing the game and how a good third of it was just fighting Mr. Negative's goons. Wished they didn't save the Sinister Six for the final third.
I 'member
I feel they'll do superior in the third game as the "grand" conclusion, which im absolutley dreading.
Spiders-Man
My man
>What do you want to see in the next Spiderman game?
Accurate costumes
Black Cat with cleavage and big boobs
Queen Globin and Spider-Womam
all women with feminine faces
>We will never see queen goblin in 3d form
It might happen if someone is brave enough to model it.
Kraven, Venon and Charlotte Witter
The first game is just alright. If anything I want the entire game to be as nutty as the prison break sequence in the first one.
And fix the swinging, the physics are wonky.
Idk, i would say the first game was generally good but it had some funky stuff with how it was plotted.
I tought the swinging was pretty solid in the first game.
I think the physic stunk. The fast way to swing was to stick right at the bottom of the arc once speed was build up. It clearly force your character forward unnaturally on release. No skill to learning it.
Hmm, you're not wrong, but given how few people complained about it i doubt they'll change it.
I can dream.
Sure you can. Just not super likley given how few people dislike the current system.
So who hired Taskmaster?
>More side quests like the Tombstone one
>Solo Scorpion fight
>Aerial combat similar to Web of Shadows
>Chameleon boss fight where Peter has to use his brains
>Ben's Spidey suit
>Unlimited suit
>Amazing 2 suit
I feel the amazing 2 suit is a write in given nwh, same with the nwh ending suit. I really hope the sensational one is there too.
>Aerial combat similar to web of shadows
They better use the vulture for that.
Goblin or beetle could justify it as well.
When was the last time beetle showed up in Spider-Man?
If you count janice then this year.
And she's probably the most likley given her dad exists and spidey has so few female villains.
I'd want the wall combat from web of shadows as well. I know people find that cumbersome and not deep but damn it, he's the WALL CRAWLER and I want some cool mechanics tied to it. Oh and yeah a fight with Chameleon where you have to use your Spider-sense like detective vision or some other cool way to see who is the Chameleon would be cool. But detective vision sucks sometimes but I don't know how else you'd do it. And man, Venom needs to retain his menace with him tracking Peter across the city on some mission where you need to shake him off your trail while getting back to an area where you fight him. Though Kraven kinda has that schtick with him being a hunter and all. I still feel like the boss fights will be watered down like the first game. Just wishful thinking I guess.
The hoops you people are jumping through to justify a Gwen in name only is moronic
Spider-Gwen is as much Gwen as the PS4 MJ is MJ, they're not even fricking close but they're still supposed to be multiverse variants of the same person
I dont want spider-gwen, but it is a bit likely given they did Miles (who they added in a last minute re-write).
Eh Miles’s origin makes sense here, this wouldn’t. Plus I think the deaf chick was implied to be his new girl
Idk, it was pretty slapped on the first game and didnt really help it too much. Given that this game has symbiote stuff and Gwen does have that tie, there is a higher chance on that than id like.
And i dont think they'll make her his love intrest necessarily.
Which again playable Venom trumps any likelihood of Gwen. Id sooner believe Silk
I think playable venom is more likley, but given just how much marvel pushes spider-gwen she's far far more likley than silk.
Silk is getting her own show/movie (eventually), can easily be incorporated in this universe, and would actually bring something new to the table gameplay wise than Gwen. Push or not, I just don’t see it working well. I feel like Miles is the Spider-Verse advertisement anyway.
You say that, but spider-gwen is the one they put in all media regardless of it makes sense or not, so more comparable to Miles there.
I do prefer Silk mind you. But she seems less likley.
It did defintely come off as weird in those old appereances.
Within the game the ages are in the bios. It was mentioned in the comics that Norman was in his 50s when peter was in his 30s (when he was a HS teacher) so he was defintely younger than here
It was either the production booklet or the art one, and it said one of the last rewrites he was added. And the last draft would be done BEFORE they would start rendering anything.
The point is Gwen at best is just wishful (stupid) thinking at this point. There are no hints or teases that she even exists in this universe, and a 3rd spider bite just seems contrived
But if it’s what don’t wants it’s what they’re gonna get. We’re already guaranteed to get a part in the game where you’re FORCED to play as miles to save peter after he b***hes out in a fight against kraven. So why not just turn him into a full in cuck? They already did in the the side game
>They already did in the the side game
Peter was quite literally not in the game after the first few minutes
>peter wasn’t in the game after he jobbed like a b***h
Duh
Few people realize HOW much better the web swinging was in 2, yes the new game made it more fluid, but it was super satisfying to get across the city in 2
You need help
I dont wish for it, but i can see it happening. If nothing else because of the whole "who says she's even dead" thing, and such an usage of modern spider-man stuff.
My guess is that she would be involved in a Spider Island type situation orcestrated by the Jackal. That way they could give us new enemy types too. Tie it into Otto cloning a superior spider body.
that's why she will be the part of MIles' caste
Peter can get with Black Cat. This is where its at
>pic
they deserve each other
Very cute at least
Gonna need more evidence than a vague "trust me bro." 'cause it smells like bullshit.
So i was wrong, the original idea was that he would just be a cameo in the post credit scene... https://ew.com/gaming/game-on-inside-marvel-games/
Proof of this claim? Since he was teased from the very first trailer?
Am I supposed to take these comments seriously when these exact people had no problems shipping Peter + Kamala in both the 2017 Spider-Man show and the MCU? The hypocrisy is staggering.
>when these exact people had no problems shipping Peter + Kamala in both the 2017 Spider-Man show and the MCU?
What's the issue there
>Miles was added at the last minute
And people genuinely don't believe he's not forced into anything
I'm pretty pissed about there not being a Co-Op mode.
I don't wanna just switch between the characters, I want my friend to be able to pick up to controller and take over as Miles and do some sick team up combos.
> Title is "Spider-Man *2* "
> There are *2* Spider-Men
> No *2* player mode.
What the frick ?
Is Couch-CoOp just dead then ?
I thought the combat would be too similar to the Arkham games, but I was pleasantly surprised when it allowed for a good bit of creativity. I hope i opens up the combat even more.
I'd still want Silk over Spider-Gwen. Could easily fit into this universe, and have better gameplay
>Silk
>better gameplay
Like how?
Isn’t Silk just female spider-man?
Silk doesn’t have webshooters, she naturally weaves complex web constructs from her fingertips organically. That’s how she suits up, creating a new suit every time. From a gameplay perspective the combat potential is limitless
Let's talk about villains and how they should be used
Mysterio and Lizard and sandman all seem like obvious choices for the game.
I do hope the whole "keeping sandman on a tube for years" thing is retconned somehow
I really only think it was a portion of him that could occasionally move. Too small to fit all of Sandy. But you're right, Sandman and Mysterio would look BEAUTIFUL on 4k PS5. Should Mysterio be a main game villain or a side mission guy? I'd love it if he had those eyeball shaped drones to help cast holograms. Lizard is practically confirmed for the main game, but I'd also like to see Vermin cameo in a side mission
Yeah that's WORSE, since its basically imprisioning his mind in a tube small enough that he cant move, its really shit from someone like spider-man.
Sandman would look nice, but i doubt they'll go with the shirt look, and will rather turn him into just a sand monster.
I feel mysterio should be in the main plot.
Nightmare fuel worse than the prison Tony used in Civil war tbh
How would you write him in the plot though? A secondary hidden foe hired by Norman in secret because he didn't full trust Kraven? I do hope the previous S6 return as random street crimes
I can see him being freed by kraven to be a test run for spider-man, maybe alongside chamaleon so we have 1 foe for each spider.
The ones i see returning most likley are Electro (altough mostly due to keaton being the va) and shocker. Vulture should be dead by then and all.
Yep
>Vulture should be dead by then and all.
Why would you even want that? Vulture was based, and should be a random crime
His motivation was that he was dying of cancer...
The suit was keeping him alive. Besides you don't have to kill him off. This is fiction dude
Not saying they have to, but i doubt they'd keep the suit in prison.
The dematties story about that was kino, but i dont think they'll be able to capture it.
I mean, they choose to give him that motivation and then have it have no impact whatsoever in anything, not even in his interactions with spider-man.
And im sorry anon.
Next one probably, but im bettng he's just going to be a mess of tech. The mask in ps4 isnt too good already.
I don't hate these. Depends on execution and his laugh
>I mean, they choose to give him that motivation
You mean the same bullshit we always go through with his old ass?
honestly i'd like to see the death of Vulture as a plot point.
Fricking why? Let's just have fun with Spidey rogues for frick sake. Plus if we go your route, they'd just introduce Starling. Also maybe I just want to have fun with Spider-Man rogues and not think about the fact that my dad died of cancer
Sorry anon
Peter wasnt sure if he was actually in there or not
It was implied.
Implied in the sense that Peter thought he might be. Pretty sure that the uncertainty was intentional
Well the game does say sandman hadnt been seen since.
And spidey just careleslly forgot.
Bruce Campbell voices him.
So how will the new legs work?
what all Peterfans want to see
I like Black Cat, I just wish you'd stop spamming this
basado Peterbro
kek and why would he stop, Peter and Felicia are the OTP
Because this obnoxious shit is all you ever talk about, and reduce discussion to shipping autism
soulmates' privilege
No it's just fricking annoying, anon. God forbid I actually want to talk about Felicia for a change around here
There's no way you're a dude and serious.
peter and felicia are soulmates, soul.mates
hard to do since their stories eventually come together
You do realize that we can have Spidey/Black Cat stories that aren't always centered around romance bullshit, right?
Not who posted two hours ago but I follow Spidey across several media and I love Peter that's why we can tell you Felicia is the one person for Peter.
And at this point you know the weird thing is keep trying to deny it, right?
You can say its not you but its obvious your the same sad exuse for an adult. Your worse than a twelve year old girl squeeing over her otp. At least she'd kinda adorable in a childish way
I like peter and felicia (and in this game more than peter/mj), but its weird that this anon always uses the exact same phrasing and brings it up in totally unrelated spider-man threads.
Frankly I'm glad I don't care at all about who fricks who and just want the girls respected
nice not-argument
That's the only response the "argument" deserves.
there, there
Titless
This may sound crazy to you samegayger but... some men... Don't care... About Shipping...
>still at it
...anon
Not enough context clues to figure that sentence out and I've Bern here for four minutes. What are you saying?
Look he does this a lot in Spidey threads and gives Feliciagays a bad name. Can we get back on topic? How will Norman look as Green Goblin do you think? Will he appear in this game or the next? I'm inclined to say the next one
Techno suit. Next game. Ehhh... not all that excited about the Osborns. No offense meant to anyone who likes them ofc. They're not my thing.
I like the goblins, but Norman being mayor and doing the "harry's sick" plot have diminished my intrest a lot.
I dont hate them either, but they're not ideal.
I dunno if he'll be that entertaining, he seems far too serious in the story so far.
Vulture's only had the "im dying" plot once. Which in an attempt to reverse it led to the shitty youth vampire thing.
Outside of that vulture is usually mad at someone for having wronged him, or stealing his tech or even finding out some secret family.
How do you feel about Hobie Brown being shafted again? I suppose we can say Hobie originally built the suit and Aaron stole it.
Let's not waste a character on dumb bullshit like that. Vulture should stay
I dislike hobie being shafted, but it comes with Miles being so prominent here.
Again, the first game set that up, and barely even used it. No one forced them to. If they're going to do a plot like that in their own self contained continuity they should let it play out.
Also being totaly honest, vulture wanting to settle all old scores and apologize to aunt may was the best story he ever had.
Dude, how is this a hard concept to get? PEOPLE WANT TO SEE VULTURE.
Anon i feel you're using this too strongly, again what im saying is that the first game went with an idea, which doesnt really lead to vulture being too usable afterwards. They did the same thing with ock frankly.
Its not particularly hard to get.
I just find you incredibly fricking frustrating because you read too much into shit and think this is our first rodeo with such a plot point. They even address the suit is keeping him alive. But no you have to keep hammering on it because someone doesn't care to explore the idea any further and only further begs the introduction like a shit knockoff like Starling. It's fricking comic books, it's an easy work around
And the suit would have been fricking removed in prison because he was just involved in a major terorist attack dude.
I'm not saying i want starling, or drago or natale or shallot or the vultorions, but again this is a game, they dont have the same rule of keeping characters around that the comics do.
>And the suit would have been fricking removed in prison
Right because RAFT staff would just let him die and made sure to remove everyone else's suits too. Also the sickness shit is redundant thanks to Harry. You can keep repeating yourself as much as you want, it's still a shit idea, Anon. ITS A GAME, I WANT TO HAVE FUN, I WANT TO KEEP FIGHTING VULTURE. Jesus Christ
Rhino and scorpion explcitly cant be separated from their suits in the game, that's not the case with vulture. Altough i guess that'd depend on how good a lawyer he has.
Yes, just as its redundant with Ock also being sick. Ps4 really abused that one plot point didnt it? Man is eddie going to have cancer too? There's precedent after all. Imnsoniac can be really repetitive.
And anon you're taking this too seriously, even if they dont have him die, i geniunly doubt they'd use him again when he was a bonus boss fight in miles's game.
>And anon you're taking this too seriously,
No I'm just fricking annoyed because you refuse to let this go and feel like you're trying to convince me otherwise. Take the damn hint and move on man
I just tought it was a simple conversation anon, not this huge deal. But sure we can move on.
I think he might be trying to help vulture fans feel better if he's not used and it just reads bad because we're all online and can't determine tones and whatnot
Agreed
>PEOPLE WANT TO SEE VULTURE.
And his twin brother
Opinion discarded and have a nice day after that autocorrect you fricking scum
Crazy ain't ya?
Commie shiteater
Bored child
This. Best and most acclaimed part of the first one.
Boobs this time please and Spider Woman with a great ass
PS4 did a solid work with them but still i rather the comics first
>What do you want to see in the next Spiderman game?
Rape
Read fanfics. Just check the 'rape/non con' warning on ao3 and filter for five with the 'most comments to be shown 'first they'll give you your bizarre fetish anon
A minigame where you deliver pizzas around the city.
And one side mission where you have to deliver a bunch of red balloons to a kid's birthday in the park.
Now put "clothes" on him
Can we drop the vulture thing. I'd personally like to see him used and people obviously have some strong feelings one way or another and this doesn't seem like it is going to go anywhere good
I think anon is genuinely autistic and doesn't grasp the fact that someone doesn't want a contrived cancer plotline due to personal reasons and only serve to limit creative potential in the game. But you're right, it's just getting dumb.
I'm hoping for a lot of side characters, especially C and D listers
Nah, i just tought it was a bit weird the other anon kept shooting down something that was set up in the other game, not actually autistic (not that there's anything wrong with that :)).
Beetle would be fun. Could work even better given her dad was in the last game.
Something had to happen in the DLC after all, It seems like wrath is going to be directly antagonistic from the get go, which is definitely a route.
Yeah, i do like vulture, i dont want to make it seem like i dont.
I do feel he (like most of the six) was a bit wasted in the first game.
>Something had to happen in the DLC after all
Yeah but not that big of a plot point. Why not just give us a standard Hammerhead story without turning him into a mock Silvermane too?
I feel then a lot of people would have complained the dlc was pointless.
I wonder why they didnt just use silvermane instead. Maybe with hammy as an underboss.
Contrived illnesses are my least favorite type of plot in general.
>especially C and D listers
Frick yes
I absolutely agree, I dislike that ps4 used it so much.
Using it once was fine, twice raised an eyebrow, but devotion to it as a general plot makes me wonder if someone might have had something going on in the background that we're not privy to.
That's my thought on Zeb Wells anon. I can't exactly go and ask him if his wife/an ex had a child aborted/stillborn or it happened with one of his siblings but I wonder about that sometimes...
No that's mackie, who had cancer and dealt with it in his ghost rider.
That's everyone who suffers loss, gets sick, knows someone like that. It's a coping mechanism. Wells is nowhere near Pratchett's skill but my favorite example is Terry Pratchett.
True.
There's:
>Li's origin
>Otto
>Vulture
>Harry
>Phin's brother
It does seem like something imnosniac loves, just like "spider-man's friend becomes a villain"
>Li
>Otto
>Yuri
>Tinkerer
>Venom (regardless of if its eddie or harry)
Someone who has a better memory than me could come up with a longer list but I'd like to list
>May Parker
>Harry's mom
>x number of civilians
Oh true as well.
Someone on the writing team must think its the cleverest plot point.
Who else thought it was weird such a big plot point with Yuri was put in DLC? How do you think she'll look? Would she and Black Cat make good playable characters?
More varied terrain/obstacles for unique web slinging opportunities.
Not more Blacks.
If venom is playable which skins would you want for him?
>Comic venom
>Anti Venom
>Gargnom
>Movie venom (both of them).
>Venom 2099
Any others?
Riot because it'd be funny
Ultimate and TaS for their animated style skins (plus I wanna see that red/blue highlight in 3d a little)
Spider-venom
Punisher?
Lee price (character was lame but suit was neat)
Maybe space knight at a stretch
Riot could be funny.
Ultimate comic does feel somewhat likley, and tas out of the animated ones yeah.
Spider-venom would really be good.
Punisher would be odd, but they had ghost/spirit spider after all
And agreed, maybe angelo fortunato too?
deep web swinging like web of shadows a camera that works. Enjoyable combat.
>Small segment as peter against venom at the beginning of the game
>Peter gets infected with symbiote
>Perspective switches to Miles. You will play as Miles Morales for most of the game trying to stop black suit peter
>Kraven is a joke villain you defeat in one punch
Calling it now
Sony doesn't respect Kraven. I wouldn't be surprised.
nice gyno
You see I think that peters gonna job to kraven THEN get infected by the symbiot then you play as miles for the rest of the game. There’s no doubt you have to play as miles to stop venom pete
>Job to Kraven
You don’t know what that term means
Kraven going down to one punch wouldnt make sense with howmuch they're hyping him.
I want to be surprised and see no Harry as Venom or any recognition of Norman. I'm fatigued by the characters and the stupid memes they produce. I want them finished and for Marvel to drag out different villains. If we must have a goblin, there is an excess to choose from: pick one.
kino
No more shitty sneaking missions as MJ/Miles
I honestly don’t mind if Screwball returns. I just want her current comic outfit
When might we get some new info?
Miles getting b***h slapped by Venom
Venom should be a spin off game like Miles
Ryback
Who?
Playable Venom (Free Roam)
More Than a Single Wave of Stealth
Throwable Vehicles
Web Stream (Not Just Blasts)
More Grappling (30 Story Body Slam)
Slingshot
Green Goblin Tease
Wall Combat
No Screwball
Kraven
Mysterio
Instant Switch Symbiote
Fall Damage
Killable NPCs
Eddie Brock Setup
Venom vs Wolverine
Daredevil Mission
Miles Beat Down
No MJ Missions
Sandman
Cell Shaded Models
Peter vs SymMiles
Black Cat Missions
Electro
Human Torch Race
Otto Octavius
Local co-op
Hobgoblin
Symbiote Endgame Free Roam
Comic Accurate Skin-Tight (like TASM 2) Suits
Web Speed+
The Lizard
Sandman
>Web Stream (Not Just Blasts)
Being able to string along your own web to set traps and tie together enemies would singlehandedly sell the game for me.