this
it was well crafted, but the writing was appalling and the editing felt very off
it felt like a first time director, the scenes moved oddly from place to place, and nothing really 'worked'
below average slop made by David to make money off Netflix and Zoomers.
pretty smart on his end. He added irrelevant commentary over the most average story and made it sound intelligent for Zoomers.
I watched it earlier knowing nothing going into it, it wasn't bad but it was pointless.
Maybe a character analysis of the "hitman gets revenge on his employers" story is interesting to some people but I just don't care to know more about a character unless he is part of a greater arc. I was going to say that this is John Wick for contrarians but I can't because that fight scene was just as ridiculous as something from a John Wick movie and I couldn't stop laughing at the anti-climactic happy ending of him just relaxing on a beach with his gf
t. didn't understand it
it's a movie about frick ups, people not doing their jobs properly or people simply not caring enough, which he even states several dozen times.
the guy constantly fricks up. it's basicaly a dark comedy spoof of things like john wick, but meant to be similar in style to something like le samourai.
basically, the guy wishes he was "le edgy nihilistic no emotion bad ass" i.e. "He is literally me" except at the end of the movie, he realizes he isn't literally me, he's just a "normie" like everyone else.
Shit is basically explained throughout the whole movie. you'd have to be a brainlet to miss it.
I keep seeing people say it’s a parody of the “epic hit man” film, but honestly I think any parody is entirely unintentional. I think they set out to make a more serious, grounded version of John Wick and botched it so bad that people think they’re supposed to be laughing at it
Nah, it's fully intended. >spends ages at the beginning talking about how good he is >fricks up in hilarious fashion >also spent ages talking about how unemotional he is and how much he doesn't care >he is emotional and does care (they literally drill this part in by saying it everytime he fricks up or is emotional) and at the end of the film literally admits to it >says "NORMIE" completely unironically, trying to pretend he's one of those "literally me" autism characters like Taxi Driver or THE GOOSE >he isn't and again admits to it
It's 100% a parody.
I understand that the point of the movie is him failing to convince himself that he’s a cold-blooded professional. I don’t think that means the narration is supposed to be awful. I think the “normie” line is just from an out of touch 60 year old Fincher
>I don’t think that means the narration is supposed to be awful.
Why not? It makes sense given his character. The "normie" line fits in perfectly with his tryhard character.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Ok, here’s the divide:
I think the movie is about a hit man realizing he hasn’t buried his feelings as well as he thought.
You think the movie is about a hit man pretending to be a supercool assassin but in truth he’s just kind of a normal guy who screws up.
I think your interpretation is wrong. In his opening monologue he outright says he’s not anything special, just a guy who’s really thorough. He’s not really incompetent throughout the film, he just makes a couple of mistakes when he gets emotional. His handler confirms that he’s never failed a job before. He’s clearly wealthy and successful.
In this light, the awful narration can’t be seen as intentional because the movie isn’t actually a stealth parody, it’s just bad.
It's obviously intentional. The dude is a tryhard who thinks he's a badass, stoic literally me like Ryan Gosling in anything. Turns out he was just a normie himself all along
Is that really le the point though? He both fails and succeeds. He is not a failure.
In the end he cleans up his mess thoroughly and he even gets to keep his fancy house on the beach and the gf intact. If anything, the point of the movie is that sometimes shit happens, even through fault of your own, and you do your best to fix it.
It's obviously intentional. The dude is a tryhard who thinks he's a badass, stoic literally me like Ryan Gosling in anything. Turns out he was just a normie himself all along
>I think the “normie” line is just from an out of touch 60 year old Fincher
The Killer eats McDonalds, drinks Starbucks, orders shit off Amazon
He thinks his career makes him special, but he's just a moronic consoomer normie like the rest of em
6 months ago
Anonymous
I don’t know, I just saw that as a more grounded take on the genre. In other super assassin movies like John Wick, the hit man goes to his special guy and buys custom gear. He eats in dimly lit cafes where he can look all cool.
In a more realistic take, he eats at places where he can keep a low profile because they’re crowded and anonymous, and buys gear off Amazon because it’s quick and requires no interaction. I think a big part of the film’s style is that being a successful hitman isn’t actually cool; hence why he spends so much of the film wearing a silly hat.
All that to say: I wouldn’t read that much into the McDonald’s and stuff, I think you’re finding meaning that isn’t there
6 months ago
Anonymous
I think that whole "I only eat in fancy restaurants" aesthetic is represented by Tilda
She's about to be murdered and she's still bragging to Fass how the food up here is way better than the food in manhattan. It's clear she frequents this upscale restaurant so much that the owner sees her as one of his top customers.
Compare that to Fass who... eats a McMuffin without the muffin part!
I understand that the point of the movie is him failing to convince himself that he’s a cold-blooded professional. I don’t think that means the narration is supposed to be awful. I think the “normie” line is just from an out of touch 60 year old Fincher
I dont think his character being a moron was intentional
How fricking dense are you? Neck yourselves you stupid morons.
Yeah, just woke up to this thread and was reading through the (you) train.
The Samoan fight was very fun but just given the difference in build and the amount of damage Fass endures getting thrown around and beaten is unbelievable. The movie seemed to be going lengths to ground things, making everything plausible and realistic and then it just goes entirely out the window with this crazy Batman vs The Bane comic book war.
Again, I did like the film but I just think it was a slice of life ride with no destination. There was nothing gained from this
>There was nothing gained from this
Wrong. Him realizing how much his women loves him broke his whole philosophy and from then on the movie goes from him taking revenge to deciding to retire.
>. Him realizing how much his women loves him
to bad that wasn't communicated effectively to the audience
there was ample opportunity to do that, they simply didn't
>Woman you’re not even married to doesn’t sell you out to a person sent to kill you, at the cost of extreme bodily harm and almost death >Even the brother acknowledges how much she loves him, and is willing to overlook Fassbenders extremely shady background because of this >Her love for him wasn’t conveyed to the audience
Autist or speed watcher? Call it.
6 months ago
Anonymous
the scene technically delivered the dialogue but I felt none of it
it wasn't effective in making me care at all, which makes it poor filmmaking
6 months ago
Anonymous
All you had to say was “Autist” no reason to type all that out
6 months ago
Anonymous
>>Her love for him wasn’t conveyed to the audience
it was delivered in the most cold, clinical, technical way possible
it had zero emotion or weight behind it
the same scene in a better filmmakers hands would have worked, this didn't
I pity filmmakers having to suffer the opinions of pedestrians like (You).
6 months ago
Anonymous
not an argument
6 months ago
Anonymous
Actually it is. Illiterate, low-IQ plebs should know their place.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>>Her love for him wasn’t conveyed to the audience
it was delivered in the most cold, clinical, technical way possible
it had zero emotion or weight behind it
the same scene in a better filmmakers hands would have worked, this didn't
It's still also the best hitman game adaptation. It comes the closest to the game experience. Including the frick ups, i.e. how most people will play the game
t. didn't understand it
it's a movie about frick ups, people not doing their jobs properly or people simply not caring enough, which he even states several dozen times.
the guy constantly fricks up. it's basicaly a dark comedy spoof of things like john wick, but meant to be similar in style to something like le samourai.
basically, the guy wishes he was "le edgy nihilistic no emotion bad ass" i.e. "He is literally me" except at the end of the movie, he realizes he isn't literally me, he's just a "normie" like everyone else.
Shit is basically explained throughout the whole movie. you'd have to be a brainlet to miss it.
There were also a few direct references to the games. It's obvious Fincher played them.
The chapter "Destination" screens are very much the same as in the latest hitman game. Also apparantly his watch shows the number 47 more times than normal.
my gf thought it was boring, so we ended up not paying much attention and instead were making out for like 2 hours and I ended up cooming in her mouth. Thanks Fincher.
I liked it stylistically, and there were some moments that did get me pretty tense. But the internal monologuing was pretty annoying though, especially since he keeps repeating the same shit multiple times, and made really dumb fricking references.
>and made really dumb fricking references.
I like to think it was the point. Like the other anon said, it being a parody, I'm not sure I'd go that far, but he was definitely a "try hard" pretending to be "le bad ass silent assassin". So it made sense his internal monologue sounded moronic.
In a way - it makes sense it's a parody. Or maybe the movie is just that fricking stupid, that people are saying it's a parody as a sort of cope.
Personally I'm on the fence. I enjoyed the style and aesthetic. And I feel like I would have enjoyed it more if he was competent and there were a few more kills, as pleb tier as that sounds.
>especially since he keeps repeating the same shit multiple times
That's the entire point. He's keeps having to repeat these rules, trying to convince himself that he's this super cold and calculated assassin without emotions or empathy, when in fact he isn't.
Script was so bad the movie is an unintentional comedy
>fincher >unintentional comedy
If you've watched Fight Club, Social Network and Gone Girl and failed to realise they're actually comedies, you have failed as human being.
He has a few noteable stinkers like the normie line or the overemphasized 'idgaf', but overal it's not terrible. I don't think it's meant to be bad on purpose either, rather give insight to his character on what he assumes will happen vs what is happening in reality, and how adaptable he is with his actions.
I don't agree about the "normie" line. I think that perfectly fits his character. The I don't give a frick is cringe, but at the same time, I think it fits still. I don't think it bad, I think that's just how his character is meant to be.
In addition to the bad lines, it’s just overwrought and heavy-handed. There’s no flow to his opening monologue, he just spits out all these goofy aphorisms and meanders between unrelated points. It doesn’t sound like an internal monologue because he does things like explain his disguise, which he wouldn’t do if he’s talking to himself, so this disjointed collection of thoughts must be intended for the audience.
What this film was going for was a more grounded hit man movie, showing the patience and preparation required for the job, but those kinds of movies require atmosphere, and the atmosphere is ruined by him blathering all the time and listening to ironic music
This part I can agree with. I don't agree with his own personal talking points where it's closer to an internal monologue, like his questioning of the female assassin and "normie". But the bizarre meandering at the beginning, yeah, that was definitely heavy-handed.
I guess the point was basically to have all of that, then have him fail, as a joke. Or I assume it is. But it just feels.... off. I don't even remember half the shit he talked about there.
I’d be more willing to buy the intentionally funny take if the rest of the movie weren’t so serious.
Ok, he has his big serious hit man speech and then immediately botches a job, that’s kind of funny. He then goes in the wind and back to his safe house, where he finds his girlfriend has been savagely beaten and raped. Am I really supposed to believe that those two sequences right next to each other are a stealth comedy?
I think this movie is just kind of a mess and for some reason anons are trying convince themselves it was all intentional
How about the fact that if he shuts the frick up at the very beginning of the movie, with his stupid fricking gay monologue, he actually *gasp* hits his target instead of bloviating about some stupid bullshit, and this movie doesn't happen (good thing). Although I guess that's the point of the novie
this poster is going to be used in the same way that Blade Runner poster (the one where they are depicted literally running along the blunt edge of a blade) is memed in "best movie posters" threads due to that moronic lower-case i being used to depict a dead guy >The K_.LLER
great job you fricking 85 IQ moron
Just watched.
It needed to end with both of them getting assassinated in their deck chairs. The whole build up was the few vs the many, and the billionaire client should have been shown to utterly outmatch him to keep the message of the film consistent.
would have been super funny if there was a surprise cameo of brad pitt, dressed like tyler durden, wearing a bucket hat, lurking in the bushes, screwing a silencer in. and then the movie cuts to black, roll credits.
>Get an Uber ™ to get the hideout brought to you by WeWork™ >Get some McDonald's™ for the protein >Order some tools from Amazon™ to be sent to a secure locker. >Be sure not to be seen and get vaxxed with a Pfizer™ shot can't risk getting sick. >Got to kill this Bitcoin investor who made all his money using Coinbase™ a safe and reliable way to buy Bitcoin use the code Fastbender to earn free coins when you sign up for your new account. >Who needs a Trojan Horse, when you've got Postmates™. Cause everything's airtight till the billionaire wants densuke watermelon.
Stick to your plan. Anticipate, don't improvise. Trust no one. Never yield an advantage. Fight only the battle you're paid to fight.
The product placements were absolutely fricking insane in this movie. Even Adam Sandler would be cringing at this shit, at least dunkaccino was meant to be a joke.
You actually think McDonalds, Starbucks, and Amazon paid Netflix to be featured as something a serial killer uses? And that it wasn't a conscious decision by Fincher? Is that what you think? Please go on, tell us.
Yes. They literally did. They wanted the cool hitman guy to use products so normies can go out and buy products to be like the cool hitman guy. It's basic marketing what are you not understanding. >something a serial killer uses? >oh no, companies never use characters that m-m-m-murder or k-k-kill to advertise product
This is america you fricking idiot, do you know how many fricking violent serial killer characters regularly get advertising work here? People aren't going to be recoiled by these products because The Killer used them, it's going to be the exact opposite.
You are a low IQ b***h, evidenced by the fact that you can't argue the actual point of what I posted.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Shut your whining yapping c**t face up, b***h. I already put you in your place with facts and logic, which you are incapable of refuting.
6 months ago
Anonymous
You just shot yourself in the foot is what you did by lashing out like a mongoloid moron because someone doesn't like the movie about your latest personality of the week.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>diverts >insults >stil can't refute logic and facts
6 months ago
Anonymous
(You)
I'm not arguing with an angry indian netflix employee.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Correct. You're losing an argument to a 1st world white man. Your forever superior.
>You actually think McDonalds, Starbucks, and Amazon paid Netflix to be featured as something a serial killer uses?
I didn't know that Netflix paid interns to do damage control on Cinemaphile.
The product placements were absolutely fricking insane in this movie. Even Adam Sandler would be cringing at this shit, at least dunkaccino was meant to be a joke.
>guy uses thing everyone else on the planet uses >"MUH PRODUCT PLACEMENTS!!!!!"
They shouldn't be so blatant and in your face, that shit is ridiculous. Did Uncut Gems need to have over the top product placements, and that movie feels way more alive and real than anything in The Killer. The argument that product placements make a setting feel more realistic is total bullshit.
They have the WeWork logo literally right in the middle of the shot for like five seconds at least twice, and the main character gives a little monologue about how McDonald’s is a good deal for easy protein
He's able to use an empty office because WeWork had to move out of the space
Would Enron or Lehman Bros have made the joke more obvious?
6 months ago
Anonymous
This whole it's a joke schtick is about as convincing as when Vito pulled this card.
6 months ago
Anonymous
So you think that WeWork agreed to allow the movie to use them as the butt of a joke about their failing business, and you don’t think that having their logo prominently displayed at length counts as advertising?
6 months ago
Anonymous
the only company that didn't want to use their likeness was Equinox, thus the CEO going to Weekquniox or whatever the frick that was
They probably said David Fincher is doing a John Wick type of movie, can we use your company? You don't tell them you're making a subtle joke about their company failing in the pitch
6 months ago
Anonymous
Lmao don't pull something because you're reaching pretty hard, pal.
6 months ago
Anonymous
so no counter, then? just "lol im right"
6 months ago
Anonymous
What is there to counter, all of that is pure conjecture on your part.
6 months ago
Anonymous
so you have no counter-argument but still want to win the argument by claiming there never was an argument
gotta love the tards on Cinemaphile
6 months ago
Anonymous
>by claiming there never was an argument
No I'm claiming that all of this bullshit
the only company that didn't want to use their likeness was Equinox, thus the CEO going to Weekquniox or whatever the frick that was
They probably said David Fincher is doing a John Wick type of movie, can we use your company? You don't tell them you're making a subtle joke about their company failing in the pitch
is just the conclusion you want to come up with without any basis or proof as to why anyone should believe this is the case and this was Fincher's intentions.
6 months ago
Anonymous
so your argument is that we're not allowed to discuss the product placement in the movie?
Unless you're a WeWork lawyer who sat in on the meetings with Netflix, of course.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Quit with the "so your saying" bullshit you cowardly frick. It's transparent and annoying.
6 months ago
Anonymous
still not seeing any traces of an argument, just "lol ur a homosexual b***h pussyc**t" which really isn't helping convince me I'm wrong
6 months ago
Anonymous
>"lol ur a homosexual b***h pussyc**t"
Find the post where I said that.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Not every product in a movie is paid product placement. Do you realise this?
Do you know Corona beer was in the Fast and Furious script and Corona never bought this so called product placement? Do you think every single product, car, sign, featured in a movie, has been paid for by said company? Do you realise how much wasted money that would be?
6 months ago
Anonymous
every fricking little thing needs a license these days, sometimes even buildings
6 months ago
Anonymous
yes, but the fast and furious producers still had to call Corona and get permission to use their beer in the movie
most time a company will be happy to let you use the rights for free, as it's free product placement. Other times they won't give the rights, as Equinox did for this film
>They have the WeWork logo literally right in the middle of the shot for like five seconds at least twice
Which scenes? I have no idea what WeWork is or what its logo is. >and the main character gives a little monologue about how McDonald’s is a good deal for easy protein
Tbf the point of that scene is to show off his tryhard "badass" facade that shortly after gets exposed as bullshit. >"Durr look at me I get a minimum amount of protein for 1 Euro I'm so frickin logistical and professional yo"
>that shortly after gets exposed as bullshit.
It's not bullshit, The Killer is an existing character based off a french comic, the dude is the fricking boogeyman to everyone he works with, everyone is surprised that he fricked up. What are you not understanding?
They were frequent and punctuated within the protagonists dialogue that is the only entertainment you get outside of the action scenes and him walking around being a boring hitman, not just that but the parts with amazon and postmates were really over the line, I really shouldn't need to explain why
K E K
E E E
K E K
this is from the new fincher movie?
this is supposed to be an artistic evolution of the 2000s era 'people googling plot point' device?
poor show fincher
The first rule of Killer Club is:
Stick to your plan.
The second rule of Killer Club is:
Stick to your plan.
Rule #3: Anticipate, don't improvise.
Rule #4: Trust no one.
Rule #5:
Never yield an advantage.
And the last rule,
Fight only the battle you're paid to fight.
>he saves every single generic image to his computer instead of copy and pasting the link directly from the host site >calls others third worlders
sad!
I liked it. If it starred Ryan Gosling instead, both here and all sorts of social media sites would be littered with the same one joke about having a new personality.
I think people are mad about very surface-level things. >too much product placement
It doesn't take a genius to see how it was a commentary on the modern state of commercialism and availability, with everything you could ever need on a street corner or an app on your phone - taking all the secret blackmarket shit that cliched hitman films harp on about and making them seem dumb. >he constantly fricks up
I sort of thought that was the point? Like, he's human. The constant repeating that you can't show empathy and that he supposedly doesn't give a frick was clearly juxtaposed against scenes of him going on a murder rampage because they put his gf in the hospital. >the ending was disappointing
This is the most interesting thing. Why didn't he kill the person who was arguably the most responsible. Because that was the battle he couldn't win? Or because he actually realised that the guy didn't care about him?
I'm not saying it's not disappointing but it begs some thought. If he had just killed him it would have been very anticlimactic. If he killed him and then was murdered subsequently, it would have felt pointless.
Him not killing him creates a character arc.
>It doesn't take a genius to see how it was a commentary on the modern state of commercialism and availability, with everything you could ever need on a street corner or an app on your phone - taking all the secret blackmarket shit that cliched hitman films harp on about and making them seem dumb.
>If he killed him and then was murdered subsequently, it would have felt pointless. >Him not killing him creates a character arc.
Both are crap endings because really it was just a zero sum story. There was never really anything interesting going on
>What does Cinemaphile think of The Killer?
I'm still trying to decide.
It was quite simple. There wasn't much depth to it. But it looked gorgeous and the sound design was top-notch. And it was great to see Fassbender in a good role where he didn't feel out of place acting circles around capeshitters for once.
I still think about the ending. I say it lacked depth but there's clearly more to it than the surface level. I find myself wondering if he didn't kill the last guy because he was the battle he wouldn't win, or if there was a more sympathetic reason going back to what Swindon said about him fricking up the shot at the start.
Intriguing.
Definitely one of the better films of the year and a nice return to form after Mank though.
Classic use of Fincher's "seamless CGI". You can't even notice! Except it's extremely fricking noticable and distracting. This guy makes his actors do 100 takes like he's Kubrick only to have the entire picture full of fake backgrounds and sets. Funny how people think Netflix hurt his films when it's the opposite. Fincher invented Netflixs "look". The cold digital CGI glossy look that every Netflix movie has is a direct lift from House of Cards. You can tell Ozark was supposed to be Breaking Bad but Fincher style and man does that show look like shit.
It probably has the best lighting of any film released this year by far.
Every frame just looked aesthetic. And it was especially heightened compared to other films that were either lit very flatly and boring, or just really harshly with coloured lights as substitutes for knowing what the frick they're doing
Fincher sense of humor is a mix of dry and mischievous. Most of the movie is coated in dark irony. German tourist being the best way to not get interacted with. Wework office being empty. Nouveau riche morons with their tacky golden gyms. The body in the trash bin in the elevator. He's older now so the mischief has gotten a bit limp. But there's still edgy shit like the brute getting a wooden colonoscopy and Tilda delightfully talking about bear sodomy.
The biggest satirical subtext isn't explicitly in your face in the movie but it's about the state of society in the era of globalism, conformism, consumerism, individualism, easily extrapolated considering fight club. It's a movie about faceless contracts and about an anonymous guy trying to blend in and spending his time in global airports and hotels, relying on the same handful of megacorpo retail brands instead of cool gadgets. It's not haha funny but it's humorous throughout, just seeing him get away with everything by just blending in as a mediocre nobody notices. There's the classic dark comedy of the disconnected psychopath killer doing mundane things but he's just a cog in the machine and society is indifferent. Fincher's a very sociological film maker even when he does pulpy genre fluff.
Then there's also just how it plays with genre conventions and what you'd expect from a thriller about a methodical international assassin. It mostly plays its tropes straight without lowering itself into full blown farce/parody thankfully but there's some meta playfulness in there. Him spending 20 minutes hyping himself up as a cold blooded pro only to get distracted by big boobas affecting his heart rate. The various kills are amusing because of the juxtaposition between the self serious pontificating and the sudden bursts of graphic violence that just erupt like a punchline, a lot of great editing timing.
It's tongue in cheek without being reddit ironic deconstruction like Bruges.
Disappointed by the lack of a proper convoluted Hitman accident.
Netflix is the worst thing to have happened to Finch. Sad knowing he's just going to keep going into pre retirement with half baked TV stuff.
Reznor music pretty insipid, he phoned it in too. Not a single memorable track.
There are a lot of vague parallels with Fight Club but in essence it's the closest to panic room, a mediocre generic b movie barely elevated by the style.
It's such a weird project, he could do anything he wants but does... This.
It was a good movie until the end for the most part. Yet the ending made absolutely no sense. He talks about leaving no loose ends or showing empathy, yet he doesn't kill the israelite at the end and he goes through the trouble to not kill the pit bull. This was obviously politically motivated for the audience. In the end, I'm wondering what the frick was the point of the film? No way he would let the guy live in the end. Completely against his character. Same with take the risk in not killing the Pitbull even though he has a silenced pistol.
I don't like the ending because it just falls flat and is missing impact, it's certainly anti climatic but not even in an interesting way.
But his character keeps repeating his rules like a mantra while actually he keeps breaking them. There's a disconnect between how he sees himself and his actions, and he begins to doubt himself and change, by the end he's accepting this and letting shit affect him. He gets distracted in Paris, he shows empathy when he gives the secretary the death she wants and when he drinks with Tilda, he confronts Tilda in public, he gets jumped by the brute and didn't carry a backup weapon.
I wonder if it was the same character arc in the comics but more obvious? Being a French comics it also looks like it had elements of comedy and parody of American noir.
Because killing him would bring the unnecessary attention of law enforcement - that and he already exposed himself too much while entering his apartment in plain view of security camera. He just wanted what every other nornie wants, comfort. That's his whole arc, he starts out as this highly organized assassin who believes he's in total control of his life doing hits for personal gains and not giving a frick about anything, only to be brought down to reality once he misses the mark and becomes the hunted himself - he realizes that there are things he cares about, like his gf and home away from the job. He's not one of the few, he's one of the many.
>The movie was full of shit he wouldn't get away with in real life already.
Eh, I think he would. Besides botching the Paris job he actually made a clean escape, even tho he was absolutely paranoid to the point where he got spooked by the guy in the suit with striped socks and postponed his connecting flight back home. Killing some thirld world cabbie wouldn't really put him in the spotlight, police would write it off as just another armed robbery. The lawyer and the nine inch nails thing was sloppy on his part, but he still got rid of the body and made the secretaries death look like an accident falling down stairs. The brute had a history of violence and criminal connections, so him getting shot and getting his house burned wouldn't make the newspapers either. Same with the expert trying to pull off the clumsy woman routine which he obviously didn't fall for. The billionaire entrepreneur was too much of a risk tho and I guess that's the whole point. The crypot guy was one of the few, he couldn't even pronounce the lawyers/handlers name right and spilled the beams about whos idea it actually was to get rid of the killer. At that point the killer tied all lose ends and could go back home to his home and girlfriend to live out the rest of his life like any other schmuck.
>he gets jumped by the brute and didn't carry a backup weapon.
i loved the moment when he grabbed into a kitchen drawer - you expect a fat chef knife - and he holds a tiny cheese grater.
the whole movie felt like dabbing on the professionalism of the mc. the autistic yoga routine. the breadless mcmuffin.
the more time since first watch passes the more i like the movie.
It made a lot of sense. He let the guy live because he didn't know shit about anything. He surmised that he would pose no threat either. Had he killed him, it likely would have started a high priority investigation from law enforcement and the like.
The previous kills were either revenge or tying off loose ends that would've been able to connect him to his place. I previously thought that killing off the cab driver was a dick move, until one of these threads pointed this fact out.
Funny I just watched it. Pretty by the numbers. Nothing special. Fincher's worst, good enough to watch while occasionally browsing Cinemaphile on your phone.
this
it felt so lazy and meandering
it had no energy or edge behind it, which would have made all the difference if a younger filmmaker (me) had made the same film
yeah but he wasn't though
the writing was abysmal
he carried it with his pure charisma alone but it wasn't even close to enough to save this lazy trash flick
What the frick was with that bear joke sodomizing the hunter? I heard the joke was from some bong TV show called "the crown" as well. However, wherever the joke came from, who the frick thought that was a funny joke? Why is a bear sodomizing a hunter funny or logical? Is this what israelites find funny?
the movie was just incredibly lame. he never does anything cool and creative, never says anything cool or insightful and nothing crazy or exciting ever happens. he just meanders from place to place and casually murders defenceless people without any problem (except that brief fight with Florida man) and then the movie just kind of ends. yawn.
because that movie had actual characters. and good dialogue. and an interesting story. you knowm, good movie stuff. this is literally just Fincher doing the same piss filtered "grunge" shit he's been doing since the 90's but with a straight to DVD script attached to it. it's so fricking tired and boring at this point.
>written by the guy who did seven too
it's the only abve average script he's ever written. all his other work ranges from mediocre to absolute garbage. Fincher just really likes him, I guess. my only explanation for why he decided to shoot this absolute garbage script.
yeah that's obvious, the script was genuinely terrible
>written by the guy who did seven too
it's the only abve average script he's ever written. all his other work ranges from mediocre to absolute garbage. Fincher just really likes him, I guess. my only explanation for why he decided to shoot this absolute garbage script.
yeah I looked up his other stuff and it's all pure slop
I made a film last year that pretty much perfectly matches that description.
It didn't get nearly as favourable reviews as The Killer though (I think it's still sitting above a 6 on imdb though so that's something).
Not everything has to be a spectacle. Sometimes it's what's not said that's important
>Sometimes it's what's not said that's important
it doesn't matter if the movie is fricking boring. and there's nothing interesting about a sociopath casually walking up to buttholes you know absolutely nothing about and blowing their brains out. you need something for the audience to latch on to if you expect them to sit there and watch your boring garbage for 2 hours.
It did not click with me and I turned it off after about 20 minutes. The mcdonalds product placement out the gate soured me to it. The insufferable cringe-inducing voice over pushed me away for good. I could feel Fassbender cringing as he read his lines which came off as a Reddit best-of list. The parts about 'do what thou wilt' and 'I. *clap* don't *clap* give *clap* a *clap* frick *clap*' was just bad. Movies are supposed to be show, don't tell. But this movie is just regurgitating popular internet words at you to hope to pull you in. Guess it's for zoomers maybe? Who the frick knows.
I really do think the voice over was added later on to change the tone of the film. Its a mess.
I really do wonder why lines like "Storage Wars" was in there
I think a lot of his lines were cut and the voice over replaced them. Theres a scene where he closes his bank account and while the clerk talks he doesnt say a thing. there HAD to be lines there
>Theres a scene where he closes his bank account and while the clerk talks he doesnt say a thing
how do you miss points of scenes so bad kek
this is the kind of people shitting on the movie, top kek, stick to john wick kiddo
it's odd bro
there's nothing cool or badass about it, it's genuinely poor filmmaking
there's a ton of oddly cut scenes too where you can tell it didn't turn out well so they just cut around it
it felt sloppy all around
6 months ago
Anonymous
This movie is being out the definition of pseuds, which is hilarious because it’s not even a pretentious or ambitious film
6 months ago
Anonymous
exactly
I understood the premise they were going for just fine, it's just that none of it landed or worked at all
6 months ago
Anonymous
>I understood the premise they were going for just fine
Id be very worried if you didnt considering he narrates his every thought
6 months ago
Anonymous
>considering he narrates his every thought
by the 7th time he repeated that odd mantra I was already checked out
frickin' thing sucked
it feels like it was written for 3rd world morons
>find out Fincher made movie about a professional contract killer >think of all the crazy Agent 47 shit he's going to come up with >watch movie >the most autistic things he does in the movie is eat hamburger without a bun and listen to The Smiths >the most elaborate "infiltration" he comes up with is dressing up as a garbage man to get inside a lawyer's office >4 out of 5 kills is just him executing someone after a short chat >one fist fight
>>one fist fight
that went on for 5 minutes longer than it should have
it was cartoonish in a bad way
it should have been 30 seconds of brutality and that's it
Thought it was great, went into it apprehensive after seeing some threads where people were complaining. This is the first time a movie has made me wonder if it’s time to stop posting here, because I don’t know what most people are smoking at this point. Hopefully it’s just people seething over Netflix originals and Cinemaphile will have a more positive consensus once some time has passed.
>Hopefully it’s just people seething over Netflix originals
no one does that here redditgay
the flick is poor based on the merits of the filmmaking
stop making everything into a try hard YT essay you fricking moron
>It’s bad because I say it is, you don’t understand le hekken merits of film making!
Not an argument and of course the person who brings up Reddit out of nowhere talks like a Redditgay.
that's rich coming from the dork whos says shit like >Not an argument
nice phoneposting too bud
all you're missing is an oxford comma and you're full pseud mode wtf
>Trying to associate IQ with taste in movies
You have no real accolades in life if you have to resort to this embarrassing behavior to feel smart. Btw, who are you quoting, moron? Cause it sure ain’t me.
>This is the first time a movie has made me wonder if it’s time to stop posting here
Genuinely I've never seen such a moronic response to a movie on this board. And I've been here for a while. Its a simple solidly made revenge flick but apparently the subtle irony and humor is completely lost on everyone here. And seemingly no one can't grasp the plot even though it's the most simple fricking plot possible.
>but apparently the subtle irony and humor
subtle like a fricking truck >And seemingly no one can't grasp the plot
it's not complex, it's straight up bad
jfc
I don’t know how many times I have to say this. I get the irony. I get what they’re doing. The movie just isn’t well made. The narration is cheesy and meandering at best and cringy at worst, and it destroys any sense of atmosphere. The soundtrack is bad and distracting. The acting is poor. The story is generic.
It’s a clever idea for a movie but it just isn’t made well. It’s not that we didn’t get the “subtle irony”, it’s that the film just isn’t that good.
You sound exactly like the people who care more about diversity or progressive politics in their film than merit.
>The narration is cheesy and meandering at best and cringy at worst, and it destroys any sense of atmosphere.
That's the point. The narrator is delusional and pretentious. >The soundtrack is bad and distracting.
It's The Smiths homosexual >The acting is poor.
Your opinion but a bad one >The story is generic.
Generic? Sure. Effective and solid? Yes. Does everything have to have a mindblowing story for you to enjoy it?
>Effective and solid? Yes
except it's not
it's all over the place and very uneven
the concept is simple as it gets, but it never delivers on its premise
its a slog and the 'twist' ending is shrugworthy
I just didn't care
Not that anon, but in every post you make you don’t even give examples. It’s just variations of “it’s bad because I say so!” every time someone actually brings up specific things in the movie.
6 months ago
Anonymous
this isn't your community college debate 101 class homosexual
I'm capable of forming my own opinions on art for a multitude of reasons that don't require explanation
I work in the film industry and I'd genuinely be worried for my job if this film had my name on it
it's sloppy, meandering and just not well executed given the budget and talent involved
6 months ago
Anonymous
>it's sloppy, meandering and just not well executed given the budget and talent involved
right, if this was a first time director on an indie budget, I'd be impressed
but this is a big-budget AAA film and it's just a total frickin mess, and there's no good excuse as to why
6 months ago
Anonymous
>Still no actual examples >poster is a pretentious homosexual who thinks he’s hot shit because he sucks wiener in Hollywood for a living
Crazy how I have multiple friends working in Hollywood, from writers rooms to film distribution companies, and none of them are self absorbed c**ts like you are. Get over yourself, Jesus Christ.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>and none of them are self absorbed c**ts like you are.
it's called having skills and talent, wagie
tell your 'friends' to fetch my latte
6 months ago
Anonymous
>I work in the film industry
Gladly in no film industry that matters
no bro you don't get it
they were doing 146 layers of hyper meta irony that only 178 IQ chads can understand and the films not bad, you're just not a PhD film student award winning film maker like the rest of Cinemaphile
>It’s a clever idea for a movie but it just isn’t made well
exactly
well said bro, I felt the same way
it's just a fat miss overall and finchers worst my a mile
This movie just made me what a proper Hitman 47 movie/TV series. Just a focused 47 doing hit after hit either creative or funny or action packed, while being autistic and monologuing his thoughts Dexter style. That's it.
Fincher's worst by far.
this
it was well crafted, but the writing was appalling and the editing felt very off
it felt like a first time director, the scenes moved oddly from place to place, and nothing really 'worked'
FPBP. I still enjoyed it. Better than 99% of everything else we’re getting
Worse than Mank? No way.
mank was fricking kino
below average slop made by David to make money off Netflix and Zoomers.
pretty smart on his end. He added irrelevant commentary over the most average story and made it sound intelligent for Zoomers.
Kino as frick.
Midwit trash
INSPECTOR GADGET LOOKING MOTHERFRICKER
Absolute slop the minute it was revealed he had a girlfriend.
BR2049 crowd will love it
I did
it was forgettable even though some of it was unintentionally funny. whatever it was a pandemic project.
Unintentionally? Its hilarious on purpose
I watched it earlier knowing nothing going into it, it wasn't bad but it was pointless.
Maybe a character analysis of the "hitman gets revenge on his employers" story is interesting to some people but I just don't care to know more about a character unless he is part of a greater arc. I was going to say that this is John Wick for contrarians but I can't because that fight scene was just as ridiculous as something from a John Wick movie and I couldn't stop laughing at the anti-climactic happy ending of him just relaxing on a beach with his gf
t. didn't understand it
it's a movie about frick ups, people not doing their jobs properly or people simply not caring enough, which he even states several dozen times.
the guy constantly fricks up. it's basicaly a dark comedy spoof of things like john wick, but meant to be similar in style to something like le samourai.
basically, the guy wishes he was "le edgy nihilistic no emotion bad ass" i.e. "He is literally me" except at the end of the movie, he realizes he isn't literally me, he's just a "normie" like everyone else.
Shit is basically explained throughout the whole movie. you'd have to be a brainlet to miss it.
Ok that doesn't make it a good film
I keep seeing people say it’s a parody of the “epic hit man” film, but honestly I think any parody is entirely unintentional. I think they set out to make a more serious, grounded version of John Wick and botched it so bad that people think they’re supposed to be laughing at it
Nah, it's fully intended.
>spends ages at the beginning talking about how good he is
>fricks up in hilarious fashion
>also spent ages talking about how unemotional he is and how much he doesn't care
>he is emotional and does care (they literally drill this part in by saying it everytime he fricks up or is emotional) and at the end of the film literally admits to it
>says "NORMIE" completely unironically, trying to pretend he's one of those "literally me" autism characters like Taxi Driver or THE GOOSE
>he isn't and again admits to it
It's 100% a parody.
I understand that the point of the movie is him failing to convince himself that he’s a cold-blooded professional. I don’t think that means the narration is supposed to be awful. I think the “normie” line is just from an out of touch 60 year old Fincher
>I don’t think that means the narration is supposed to be awful.
Why not? It makes sense given his character. The "normie" line fits in perfectly with his tryhard character.
Ok, here’s the divide:
I think the movie is about a hit man realizing he hasn’t buried his feelings as well as he thought.
You think the movie is about a hit man pretending to be a supercool assassin but in truth he’s just kind of a normal guy who screws up.
I think your interpretation is wrong. In his opening monologue he outright says he’s not anything special, just a guy who’s really thorough. He’s not really incompetent throughout the film, he just makes a couple of mistakes when he gets emotional. His handler confirms that he’s never failed a job before. He’s clearly wealthy and successful.
In this light, the awful narration can’t be seen as intentional because the movie isn’t actually a stealth parody, it’s just bad.
It's obviously intentional. The dude is a tryhard who thinks he's a badass, stoic literally me like Ryan Gosling in anything. Turns out he was just a normie himself all along
Is that really le the point though? He both fails and succeeds. He is not a failure.
In the end he cleans up his mess thoroughly and he even gets to keep his fancy house on the beach and the gf intact. If anything, the point of the movie is that sometimes shit happens, even through fault of your own, and you do your best to fix it.
Again a moron take. Neck yourselves.
>I think the “normie” line is just from an out of touch 60 year old Fincher
The Killer eats McDonalds, drinks Starbucks, orders shit off Amazon
He thinks his career makes him special, but he's just a moronic consoomer normie like the rest of em
I don’t know, I just saw that as a more grounded take on the genre. In other super assassin movies like John Wick, the hit man goes to his special guy and buys custom gear. He eats in dimly lit cafes where he can look all cool.
In a more realistic take, he eats at places where he can keep a low profile because they’re crowded and anonymous, and buys gear off Amazon because it’s quick and requires no interaction. I think a big part of the film’s style is that being a successful hitman isn’t actually cool; hence why he spends so much of the film wearing a silly hat.
All that to say: I wouldn’t read that much into the McDonald’s and stuff, I think you’re finding meaning that isn’t there
I think that whole "I only eat in fancy restaurants" aesthetic is represented by Tilda
She's about to be murdered and she's still bragging to Fass how the food up here is way better than the food in manhattan. It's clear she frequents this upscale restaurant so much that the owner sees her as one of his top customers.
Compare that to Fass who... eats a McMuffin without the muffin part!
No way is it a parody, the movie takes itself ultra seriously
How fricking dense are you? Neck yourselves you stupid morons.
Cool argument.
No point in arguing with braindead moron zoomers
Have you morons ever seen a Fincher movie? How could you possibly think it’s unintentional.
>>you'd have to be a brainlet to miss it.
>gives an absolute moron take on the movie
it's these little things that I visit Cinemaphile for
I dont think his character being a moron was intentional
>one guy keeps trying to meme his way into how the board should interpret the movie
>we mark this movie as crime/thriller but in reality it is a parody
moron
Fight scene?
I watched this early today... You on about the indestructible Samoan?
Yeah, just woke up to this thread and was reading through the (you) train.
The Samoan fight was very fun but just given the difference in build and the amount of damage Fass endures getting thrown around and beaten is unbelievable. The movie seemed to be going lengths to ground things, making everything plausible and realistic and then it just goes entirely out the window with this crazy Batman vs The Bane comic book war.
Again, I did like the film but I just think it was a slice of life ride with no destination. There was nothing gained from this
>There was nothing gained from this
Wrong. Him realizing how much his women loves him broke his whole philosophy and from then on the movie goes from him taking revenge to deciding to retire.
*woman
>. Him realizing how much his women loves him
to bad that wasn't communicated effectively to the audience
there was ample opportunity to do that, they simply didn't
>Woman you’re not even married to doesn’t sell you out to a person sent to kill you, at the cost of extreme bodily harm and almost death
>Even the brother acknowledges how much she loves him, and is willing to overlook Fassbenders extremely shady background because of this
>Her love for him wasn’t conveyed to the audience
Autist or speed watcher? Call it.
the scene technically delivered the dialogue but I felt none of it
it wasn't effective in making me care at all, which makes it poor filmmaking
All you had to say was “Autist” no reason to type all that out
I pity filmmakers having to suffer the opinions of pedestrians like (You).
not an argument
Actually it is. Illiterate, low-IQ plebs should know their place.
>>Her love for him wasn’t conveyed to the audience
it was delivered in the most cold, clinical, technical way possible
it had zero emotion or weight behind it
the same scene in a better filmmakers hands would have worked, this didn't
decent Hitman adaptation, nothing special but not bad as video game adaptations go.
It's based on a 90s French comic.
It's still also the best hitman game adaptation. It comes the closest to the game experience. Including the frick ups, i.e. how most people will play the game
There were also a few direct references to the games. It's obvious Fincher played them.
but hitman is fun
Yeah the movie would have been better if it was a bit goofier. Still not bad as assassin movies go.
>It's obvious Fincher played them.
I doubt. The screenwriter probably.
What were the references.?
The chapter "Destination" screens are very much the same as in the latest hitman game. Also apparantly his watch shows the number 47 more times than normal.
havent watched it yet. pretty worried since everyone on here hates it
It's bizarre that netflix chooses to shill on this board
it's bizarre that you think every thread is a shill
There's like 10 different threads about this movie, the netflix shilling everytime they release something new is really blatant
Why are you surprised that a new movie by David Fincher is getting discussed? Were you dropped on your head as a child?
braindead shill you're too obvious
surprised there arent more memes from this movie
lots of kino meme opportunities
I see, you were.
my gf thought it was boring, so we ended up not paying much attention and instead were making out for like 2 hours and I ended up cooming in her mouth. Thanks Fincher.
Dunno why people are arguing about it, it was kino. One of John Woo's best.
It's the K_.ller you moron
I liked it stylistically, and there were some moments that did get me pretty tense. But the internal monologuing was pretty annoying though, especially since he keeps repeating the same shit multiple times, and made really dumb fricking references.
>and made really dumb fricking references.
I like to think it was the point. Like the other anon said, it being a parody, I'm not sure I'd go that far, but he was definitely a "try hard" pretending to be "le bad ass silent assassin". So it made sense his internal monologue sounded moronic.
In a way - it makes sense it's a parody. Or maybe the movie is just that fricking stupid, that people are saying it's a parody as a sort of cope.
Personally I'm on the fence. I enjoyed the style and aesthetic. And I feel like I would have enjoyed it more if he was competent and there were a few more kills, as pleb tier as that sounds.
That's the point you fricking imbecile
>especially since he keeps repeating the same shit multiple times
That's the entire point. He's keeps having to repeat these rules, trying to convince himself that he's this super cold and calculated assassin without emotions or empathy, when in fact he isn't.
>fincher
>unintentional comedy
If you've watched Fight Club, Social Network and Gone Girl and failed to realise they're actually comedies, you have failed as human being.
Earlier thread established that it's zoomer & midwit filter kino.
Script was so bad the movie is an unintentional comedy
It's intentionally comedic. You'd have to be stupid not to notice.
It felt rushed and slapped together but it left me wanting a decent hitman movie.
Recommend some assassin kinoes please anons.
Not taking a side - I want to know exactly where the bad narration is. People keep saying that, but never give an example.
He has a few noteable stinkers like the normie line or the overemphasized 'idgaf', but overal it's not terrible. I don't think it's meant to be bad on purpose either, rather give insight to his character on what he assumes will happen vs what is happening in reality, and how adaptable he is with his actions.
I don't agree about the "normie" line. I think that perfectly fits his character. The I don't give a frick is cringe, but at the same time, I think it fits still. I don't think it bad, I think that's just how his character is meant to be.
In addition to the bad lines, it’s just overwrought and heavy-handed. There’s no flow to his opening monologue, he just spits out all these goofy aphorisms and meanders between unrelated points. It doesn’t sound like an internal monologue because he does things like explain his disguise, which he wouldn’t do if he’s talking to himself, so this disjointed collection of thoughts must be intended for the audience.
What this film was going for was a more grounded hit man movie, showing the patience and preparation required for the job, but those kinds of movies require atmosphere, and the atmosphere is ruined by him blathering all the time and listening to ironic music
This part I can agree with. I don't agree with his own personal talking points where it's closer to an internal monologue, like his questioning of the female assassin and "normie". But the bizarre meandering at the beginning, yeah, that was definitely heavy-handed.
I guess the point was basically to have all of that, then have him fail, as a joke. Or I assume it is. But it just feels.... off. I don't even remember half the shit he talked about there.
I’d be more willing to buy the intentionally funny take if the rest of the movie weren’t so serious.
Ok, he has his big serious hit man speech and then immediately botches a job, that’s kind of funny. He then goes in the wind and back to his safe house, where he finds his girlfriend has been savagely beaten and raped. Am I really supposed to believe that those two sequences right next to each other are a stealth comedy?
I think this movie is just kind of a mess and for some reason anons are trying convince themselves it was all intentional
>raped
She wasn't raped.
His girlfriend was raped in the sweltering hot summer evening of 2023
they heavily hint that the brute raped/sexually assaulted the shit out of her, the expert wasn't on board but couldn't stop him
I mean, yes, dark comedy is a thing. She also wasn't raped. Just beaten / tortured.
How about the fact that if he shuts the frick up at the very beginning of the movie, with his stupid fricking gay monologue, he actually *gasp* hits his target instead of bloviating about some stupid bullshit, and this movie doesn't happen (good thing). Although I guess that's the point of the novie
>Nothing happens: the film
I haven't watched it but I could immediately tell its shit from the teaser
i liked it, but it's not kino. netflix and fincher are not a good collab
So stupid that people are trying to argue its actually a parody
t. normie
after Mank i dont give a frick about anything Fincher does anymore
I didn’t realize Fincher had a defense force. You guys are desperate
this poster is going to be used in the same way that Blade Runner poster (the one where they are depicted literally running along the blunt edge of a blade) is memed in "best movie posters" threads due to that moronic lower-case i being used to depict a dead guy
>The K_.LLER
great job you fricking 85 IQ moron
Just watched.
It needed to end with both of them getting assassinated in their deck chairs. The whole build up was the few vs the many, and the billionaire client should have been shown to utterly outmatch him to keep the message of the film consistent.
Fincher wanted his John Wick franchise with multiple sequels
I mean, I wouldn't be upset at that.
At least this "universe" feels believable.
mate the billionare is also a normie, a moron who got lucky with stocks/crypto. Why would he "le outmatch" him?
>message of the film consistent
Clearly a message you didn't get
would have been super funny if there was a surprise cameo of brad pitt, dressed like tyler durden, wearing a bucket hat, lurking in the bushes, screwing a silencer in. and then the movie cuts to black, roll credits.
>Get an Uber ™ to get the hideout brought to you by WeWork™
>Get some McDonald's™ for the protein
>Order some tools from Amazon™ to be sent to a secure locker.
>Be sure not to be seen and get vaxxed with a Pfizer™ shot can't risk getting sick.
>Got to kill this Bitcoin investor who made all his money using Coinbase™ a safe and reliable way to buy Bitcoin use the code Fastbender to earn free coins when you sign up for your new account.
>Who needs a Trojan Horse, when you've got Postmates™. Cause everything's airtight till the billionaire wants densuke watermelon.
Stick to your plan. Anticipate, don't improvise. Trust no one. Never yield an advantage. Fight only the battle you're paid to fight.
The product placements were absolutely fricking insane in this movie. Even Adam Sandler would be cringing at this shit, at least dunkaccino was meant to be a joke.
You actually think McDonalds, Starbucks, and Amazon paid Netflix to be featured as something a serial killer uses? And that it wasn't a conscious decision by Fincher? Is that what you think? Please go on, tell us.
Yes. They literally did. They wanted the cool hitman guy to use products so normies can go out and buy products to be like the cool hitman guy. It's basic marketing what are you not understanding.
>something a serial killer uses?
>oh no, companies never use characters that m-m-m-murder or k-k-kill to advertise product
This is america you fricking idiot, do you know how many fricking violent serial killer characters regularly get advertising work here? People aren't going to be recoiled by these products because The Killer used them, it's going to be the exact opposite.
you are a low IQ normie, also evidenced by the fact you can only reference videogames
You are a low IQ b***h, evidenced by the fact that you can't argue the actual point of what I posted.
Shut your whining yapping c**t face up, b***h. I already put you in your place with facts and logic, which you are incapable of refuting.
You just shot yourself in the foot is what you did by lashing out like a mongoloid moron because someone doesn't like the movie about your latest personality of the week.
>diverts
>insults
>stil can't refute logic and facts
(You)
I'm not arguing with an angry indian netflix employee.
Correct. You're losing an argument to a 1st world white man. Your forever superior.
>You actually think McDonalds, Starbucks, and Amazon paid Netflix to be featured as something a serial killer uses?
I didn't know that Netflix paid interns to do damage control on Cinemaphile.
>guy uses thing everyone else on the planet uses
>"MUH PRODUCT PLACEMENTS!!!!!"
They shouldn't be so blatant and in your face, that shit is ridiculous. Did Uncut Gems need to have over the top product placements, and that movie feels way more alive and real than anything in The Killer. The argument that product placements make a setting feel more realistic is total bullshit.
>They shouldn't be so blatant and in your face
How was it "in your face"? Genuinely asking.
They have the WeWork logo literally right in the middle of the shot for like five seconds at least twice, and the main character gives a little monologue about how McDonald’s is a good deal for easy protein
>not getting the WeWork joke
He's able to use an empty office because WeWork had to move out of the space
Would Enron or Lehman Bros have made the joke more obvious?
This whole it's a joke schtick is about as convincing as when Vito pulled this card.
So you think that WeWork agreed to allow the movie to use them as the butt of a joke about their failing business, and you don’t think that having their logo prominently displayed at length counts as advertising?
the only company that didn't want to use their likeness was Equinox, thus the CEO going to Weekquniox or whatever the frick that was
They probably said David Fincher is doing a John Wick type of movie, can we use your company? You don't tell them you're making a subtle joke about their company failing in the pitch
Lmao don't pull something because you're reaching pretty hard, pal.
so no counter, then? just "lol im right"
What is there to counter, all of that is pure conjecture on your part.
so you have no counter-argument but still want to win the argument by claiming there never was an argument
gotta love the tards on Cinemaphile
>by claiming there never was an argument
No I'm claiming that all of this bullshit
is just the conclusion you want to come up with without any basis or proof as to why anyone should believe this is the case and this was Fincher's intentions.
so your argument is that we're not allowed to discuss the product placement in the movie?
Unless you're a WeWork lawyer who sat in on the meetings with Netflix, of course.
Quit with the "so your saying" bullshit you cowardly frick. It's transparent and annoying.
still not seeing any traces of an argument, just "lol ur a homosexual b***h pussyc**t" which really isn't helping convince me I'm wrong
>"lol ur a homosexual b***h pussyc**t"
Find the post where I said that.
Not every product in a movie is paid product placement. Do you realise this?
Do you know Corona beer was in the Fast and Furious script and Corona never bought this so called product placement? Do you think every single product, car, sign, featured in a movie, has been paid for by said company? Do you realise how much wasted money that would be?
every fricking little thing needs a license these days, sometimes even buildings
yes, but the fast and furious producers still had to call Corona and get permission to use their beer in the movie
most time a company will be happy to let you use the rights for free, as it's free product placement. Other times they won't give the rights, as Equinox did for this film
do you not know what conjecture means?
>They have the WeWork logo literally right in the middle of the shot for like five seconds at least twice
Which scenes? I have no idea what WeWork is or what its logo is.
>and the main character gives a little monologue about how McDonald’s is a good deal for easy protein
Tbf the point of that scene is to show off his tryhard "badass" facade that shortly after gets exposed as bullshit.
>"Durr look at me I get a minimum amount of protein for 1 Euro I'm so frickin logistical and professional yo"
>Genuinely asking.
>isn't actually genuinely asking
>that shortly after gets exposed as bullshit.
It's not bullshit, The Killer is an existing character based off a french comic, the dude is the fricking boogeyman to everyone he works with, everyone is surprised that he fricked up. What are you not understanding?
They were frequent and punctuated within the protagonists dialogue that is the only entertainment you get outside of the action scenes and him walking around being a boring hitman, not just that but the parts with amazon and postmates were really over the line, I really shouldn't need to explain why
K E K
E E E
K E K
this is from the new fincher movie?
this is supposed to be an artistic evolution of the 2000s era 'people googling plot point' device?
poor show fincher
Yeah I thought this amazon product placement was really subtle. It barely took up half the screen
I don't think these zoomers have even seen Fight Club
The first rule of Killer Club is:
Stick to your plan.
The second rule of Killer Club is:
Stick to your plan.
Rule #3: Anticipate, don't improvise.
Rule #4: Trust no one.
Rule #5:
Never yield an advantage.
And the last rule,
Fight only the battle you're paid to fight.
>glock
most un-kino gun in existence. should have been a beretta, sig, or HK
good not great
script really needed some work but it's netflix
does he get naked at all in the movie?
Kinda, but you don't see his wiener or ass.
i dont know anything about this movie but I recognize reddit shilling when I see it here on Cinemaphile
which tell me everything I need to know
pass
Where did he buy all those fake ids?
Why does a Glock need a compensator? Is the K_.ller that limp-wristed?
That's supposed to be the suppressor... apparently.
This is a shit thread and I feel sorry for contributing
We should start afresh brehs, fincher would be laughing at all the incompetence showcased itt
Now that I think about it, everyone in the movie just kept fricking things up.
Almost like criminals are not the smartest people around.
The Smiths are overrated garbage, frick whoever listens to that gay shit
no
This, who the frick listens to this shit?
>Correct. You're losing an argument to a 1st world white man. Your forever superior.
>file.png
Imagine how sweaty your brown little fingers were when you had to change your name to 'file'.
It's just the default filename that appears when you copy paste an image. Did you fall asleep during online training, Amir?
>admits to online training
oh no
>he saves every single generic image to his computer instead of copy and pasting the link directly from the host site
>calls others third worlders
sad!
>pajeet still sweating
>fingernails
Melville did it better
McDonagh also did it better
How much pointless cgi is there
>>file.png
>Imagine how sweaty your brown little fingers were when you had to change your name to 'file'.
to online training
>oh no
It's actually aggravating how many people can completely misunderstand a film but that's Cinemaphile for you
What did you misunderstand about this very simplistic movie?
Yeah I don't get how you can miss the point of such a simple movie so fricking hard.
>brute getting a wooden stick up his ass so hard he bleeds
Classic Finch with the edgy dark comedy
That moron also probably thinks fight club was product placement for ikea and calvin klein
I liked it. If it starred Ryan Gosling instead, both here and all sorts of social media sites would be littered with the same one joke about having a new personality.
I think people are mad about very surface-level things.
>too much product placement
It doesn't take a genius to see how it was a commentary on the modern state of commercialism and availability, with everything you could ever need on a street corner or an app on your phone - taking all the secret blackmarket shit that cliched hitman films harp on about and making them seem dumb.
>he constantly fricks up
I sort of thought that was the point? Like, he's human. The constant repeating that you can't show empathy and that he supposedly doesn't give a frick was clearly juxtaposed against scenes of him going on a murder rampage because they put his gf in the hospital.
>the ending was disappointing
This is the most interesting thing. Why didn't he kill the person who was arguably the most responsible. Because that was the battle he couldn't win? Or because he actually realised that the guy didn't care about him?
I'm not saying it's not disappointing but it begs some thought. If he had just killed him it would have been very anticlimactic. If he killed him and then was murdered subsequently, it would have felt pointless.
Him not killing him creates a character arc.
>It doesn't take a genius to see how it was a commentary on the modern state of commercialism and availability, with everything you could ever need on a street corner or an app on your phone - taking all the secret blackmarket shit that cliched hitman films harp on about and making them seem dumb.
>If he killed him and then was murdered subsequently, it would have felt pointless.
>Him not killing him creates a character arc.
Both are crap endings because really it was just a zero sum story. There was never really anything interesting going on
What an underwhelming ending
>What does Cinemaphile think of The Killer?
I'm still trying to decide.
It was quite simple. There wasn't much depth to it. But it looked gorgeous and the sound design was top-notch. And it was great to see Fassbender in a good role where he didn't feel out of place acting circles around capeshitters for once.
I still think about the ending. I say it lacked depth but there's clearly more to it than the surface level. I find myself wondering if he didn't kill the last guy because he was the battle he wouldn't win, or if there was a more sympathetic reason going back to what Swindon said about him fricking up the shot at the start.
Intriguing.
Definitely one of the better films of the year and a nice return to form after Mank though.
I feel like I’m taking crazy pills when I see people calling it gorgeous. It’s not ugly but I didn’t think it was anything special visually
It went over your head, pajeet.
Classic use of Fincher's "seamless CGI". You can't even notice! Except it's extremely fricking noticable and distracting. This guy makes his actors do 100 takes like he's Kubrick only to have the entire picture full of fake backgrounds and sets. Funny how people think Netflix hurt his films when it's the opposite. Fincher invented Netflixs "look". The cold digital CGI glossy look that every Netflix movie has is a direct lift from House of Cards. You can tell Ozark was supposed to be Breaking Bad but Fincher style and man does that show look like shit.
It probably has the best lighting of any film released this year by far.
Every frame just looked aesthetic. And it was especially heightened compared to other films that were either lit very flatly and boring, or just really harshly with coloured lights as substitutes for knowing what the frick they're doing
>Every frame just looked aesthetic.
i preferred when idiots just said "i liked how it looked"
I preferred it when needless contrarians didn't have an outlet to shitpost but here we are
everything you say is the thoughts of someone else
>strawmanning when you get btfo
ironic
Brainlet here. I was told this movie had jokes. What jokes were there exactly? It just seemed like a cool autistic hitman movie.
>What jokes were there exactly?
He's a hitman who isn't a hit, man.
That was a psyop. It has humor in it but it's not the main focus.
It reminded me a lot of Brazil. It had the same, everything is broken, everyone is incompetent, theme. Took me a moment to catch on.
Fincher sense of humor is a mix of dry and mischievous. Most of the movie is coated in dark irony. German tourist being the best way to not get interacted with. Wework office being empty. Nouveau riche morons with their tacky golden gyms. The body in the trash bin in the elevator. He's older now so the mischief has gotten a bit limp. But there's still edgy shit like the brute getting a wooden colonoscopy and Tilda delightfully talking about bear sodomy.
The biggest satirical subtext isn't explicitly in your face in the movie but it's about the state of society in the era of globalism, conformism, consumerism, individualism, easily extrapolated considering fight club. It's a movie about faceless contracts and about an anonymous guy trying to blend in and spending his time in global airports and hotels, relying on the same handful of megacorpo retail brands instead of cool gadgets. It's not haha funny but it's humorous throughout, just seeing him get away with everything by just blending in as a mediocre nobody notices. There's the classic dark comedy of the disconnected psychopath killer doing mundane things but he's just a cog in the machine and society is indifferent. Fincher's a very sociological film maker even when he does pulpy genre fluff.
Then there's also just how it plays with genre conventions and what you'd expect from a thriller about a methodical international assassin. It mostly plays its tropes straight without lowering itself into full blown farce/parody thankfully but there's some meta playfulness in there. Him spending 20 minutes hyping himself up as a cold blooded pro only to get distracted by big boobas affecting his heart rate. The various kills are amusing because of the juxtaposition between the self serious pontificating and the sudden bursts of graphic violence that just erupt like a punchline, a lot of great editing timing.
It's tongue in cheek without being reddit ironic deconstruction like Bruges.
Thanks, anon. That makes a lot of sense.
Agree.
nah it was just mid and fincher is losing his touch
reznors score may as well not have been there also
Just very hollow.
The starting sequence was alright - felt almost like it was getting into Patriot (Amazon show) vibes. But then nah.
Meh
Fincher has lost it
kek i remember that
kino
You know he liked it when he writes a blog post instead of just saying "Watched The K_.ller."
>This will be a strong IP.
>Will it become a series?
Japslop take.
>Will it become a series?
Kojima is such a moron.
I mean, I like the film too, but Christ is he out of touch.
Kojima laps up everything
How does the comic end?
Disappointed by the lack of a proper convoluted Hitman accident.
Netflix is the worst thing to have happened to Finch. Sad knowing he's just going to keep going into pre retirement with half baked TV stuff.
Reznor music pretty insipid, he phoned it in too. Not a single memorable track.
There are a lot of vague parallels with Fight Club but in essence it's the closest to panic room, a mediocre generic b movie barely elevated by the style.
It's such a weird project, he could do anything he wants but does... This.
WTF? David Lynch and David Fincher are actually different people?
They have nothing in common besides both being named David lmao
I thought it was one weirdo director who whimsically alternated names between projects.
David Lyncher
I liked how it looked
kek
The visuals sucked you in
Every frame was a painting
if you stabbed someone with that you'd cut your hand up something horrible
griplet
havent watched it yet, but that is an awful poster
if i liked this should i watch the ben affleck avgn movie
accountant is actually kino
>The Knller
What did Fincher mean by this?
That you have autism
>use morse code in your movie logo
>get it wrong
>pointing it out is autistic
Simp more, shill.
>use morse code in your movie logo
lmao imagine failing at the first premise of your argument
It's not Morse code. The "i" got stabbed and fell over.
It was clearly shot with a .45 caliber pistol you fricking fool.
You'd make an awful detective. The exit wound size does not match up.
Notice the blood is pouring out of the wall, covering up the i's own bleeding.
>the i got stabbed/shot
And yet the i has no visible wound and the only bullet hole is above it.
Kino in some parts and mediocre in others. Lacked an overarching unity.
It was a good movie until the end for the most part. Yet the ending made absolutely no sense. He talks about leaving no loose ends or showing empathy, yet he doesn't kill the israelite at the end and he goes through the trouble to not kill the pit bull. This was obviously politically motivated for the audience. In the end, I'm wondering what the frick was the point of the film? No way he would let the guy live in the end. Completely against his character. Same with take the risk in not killing the Pitbull even though he has a silenced pistol.
I don't like the ending because it just falls flat and is missing impact, it's certainly anti climatic but not even in an interesting way.
But his character keeps repeating his rules like a mantra while actually he keeps breaking them. There's a disconnect between how he sees himself and his actions, and he begins to doubt himself and change, by the end he's accepting this and letting shit affect him. He gets distracted in Paris, he shows empathy when he gives the secretary the death she wants and when he drinks with Tilda, he confronts Tilda in public, he gets jumped by the brute and didn't carry a backup weapon.
But why would he just walk away from the client in the end?????
I wonder if it was the same character arc in the comics but more obvious? Being a French comics it also looks like it had elements of comedy and parody of American noir.
Because killing him would bring the unnecessary attention of law enforcement - that and he already exposed himself too much while entering his apartment in plain view of security camera. He just wanted what every other nornie wants, comfort. That's his whole arc, he starts out as this highly organized assassin who believes he's in total control of his life doing hits for personal gains and not giving a frick about anything, only to be brought down to reality once he misses the mark and becomes the hunted himself - he realizes that there are things he cares about, like his gf and home away from the job. He's not one of the few, he's one of the many.
But it's so anticlimatic. The movie was full of shit he wouldn't get away with in real life already. There was no point to the film.
>The movie was full of shit he wouldn't get away with in real life already.
Eh, I think he would. Besides botching the Paris job he actually made a clean escape, even tho he was absolutely paranoid to the point where he got spooked by the guy in the suit with striped socks and postponed his connecting flight back home. Killing some thirld world cabbie wouldn't really put him in the spotlight, police would write it off as just another armed robbery. The lawyer and the nine inch nails thing was sloppy on his part, but he still got rid of the body and made the secretaries death look like an accident falling down stairs. The brute had a history of violence and criminal connections, so him getting shot and getting his house burned wouldn't make the newspapers either. Same with the expert trying to pull off the clumsy woman routine which he obviously didn't fall for. The billionaire entrepreneur was too much of a risk tho and I guess that's the whole point. The crypot guy was one of the few, he couldn't even pronounce the lawyers/handlers name right and spilled the beams about whos idea it actually was to get rid of the killer. At that point the killer tied all lose ends and could go back home to his home and girlfriend to live out the rest of his life like any other schmuck.
>he gets jumped by the brute and didn't carry a backup weapon.
i loved the moment when he grabbed into a kitchen drawer - you expect a fat chef knife - and he holds a tiny cheese grater.
the whole movie felt like dabbing on the professionalism of the mc. the autistic yoga routine. the breadless mcmuffin.
the more time since first watch passes the more i like the movie.
It made a lot of sense. He let the guy live because he didn't know shit about anything. He surmised that he would pose no threat either. Had he killed him, it likely would have started a high priority investigation from law enforcement and the like.
The previous kills were either revenge or tying off loose ends that would've been able to connect him to his place. I previously thought that killing off the cab driver was a dick move, until one of these threads pointed this fact out.
He should assume that the guy was lying in the end, everyone lies to him throughout the film and he doesn't listen to their bullshit.
>killing pit bulls is le bad!
>killing israelites is le bad!
FRICK fincher
I shut the movie off when he said red meat kills people. Fricking pozzed israelite trash.
Superior.
>Kubrick invented table lights
>welles invented trees
holy frick they look so sturdy imagine driving into one of those bad boys at 100km/h
>it's a globe
>it's flat
>it's a flat with a firmament
Funny I just watched it. Pretty by the numbers. Nothing special. Fincher's worst, good enough to watch while occasionally browsing Cinemaphile on your phone.
>browsing Cinemaphile on your phone.
No wonder this thread is wall to wall shit.
Nah it's actually the best thread up right now. Trust me
Like the hitman, Fincher is washed up and losing his professionalism
this
it felt so lazy and meandering
it had no energy or edge behind it, which would have made all the difference if a younger filmmaker (me) had made the same film
Michael Fassbender being so interesting and good actor was the only thing that kept me through it
yeah but he wasn't though
the writing was abysmal
he carried it with his pure charisma alone but it wasn't even close to enough to save this lazy trash flick
What the frick was with that bear joke sodomizing the hunter? I heard the joke was from some bong TV show called "the crown" as well. However, wherever the joke came from, who the frick thought that was a funny joke? Why is a bear sodomizing a hunter funny or logical? Is this what israelites find funny?
because Fincher and AKW are still stuck in their edgy 90's phase.
Tilde told it well and the hunter really did intend to kill the bear. Made me chuckle.
It was her attempt to save herself
You mean The K_.ller
the movie was just incredibly lame. he never does anything cool and creative, never says anything cool or insightful and nothing crazy or exciting ever happens. he just meanders from place to place and casually murders defenceless people without any problem (except that brief fight with Florida man) and then the movie just kind of ends. yawn.
Watching Robert De Niro be a 70 year old Hitman in that Scorsese movie a few years ago was more interesting
because that movie had actual characters. and good dialogue. and an interesting story. you knowm, good movie stuff. this is literally just Fincher doing the same piss filtered "grunge" shit he's been doing since the 90's but with a straight to DVD script attached to it. it's so fricking tired and boring at this point.
>but with a straight to DVD script
written by the guy who did seven too
wtf happened to all these homosexuals??
bunch of old hacks
hollywood studios had producers to argue scripts. netflix just say "thanks, get to work so we can farm it out"
>written by the guy who did seven too
it's the only abve average script he's ever written. all his other work ranges from mediocre to absolute garbage. Fincher just really likes him, I guess. my only explanation for why he decided to shoot this absolute garbage script.
They got too rich and comfortable. They are not hungry anymore... just a paycheck
yeah that's obvious, the script was genuinely terrible
yeah I looked up his other stuff and it's all pure slop
ron perlman's the baker is better than that de niro slop
>don't talk to me or my wifes son like that ever again: the film
bravo Cinemaphile
I made a film last year that pretty much perfectly matches that description.
It didn't get nearly as favourable reviews as The Killer though (I think it's still sitting above a 6 on imdb though so that's something).
Not everything has to be a spectacle. Sometimes it's what's not said that's important
>Sometimes it's what's not said that's important
it doesn't matter if the movie is fricking boring. and there's nothing interesting about a sociopath casually walking up to buttholes you know absolutely nothing about and blowing their brains out. you need something for the audience to latch on to if you expect them to sit there and watch your boring garbage for 2 hours.
feels like it supposed to be a dark comedy and the editing changed that. Guarantee the overwhelming narration wasnt part of it
Inspector Gadget?
It did not click with me and I turned it off after about 20 minutes. The mcdonalds product placement out the gate soured me to it. The insufferable cringe-inducing voice over pushed me away for good. I could feel Fassbender cringing as he read his lines which came off as a Reddit best-of list. The parts about 'do what thou wilt' and 'I. *clap* don't *clap* give *clap* a *clap* frick *clap*' was just bad. Movies are supposed to be show, don't tell. But this movie is just regurgitating popular internet words at you to hope to pull you in. Guess it's for zoomers maybe? Who the frick knows.
I really do think the voice over was added later on to change the tone of the film. Its a mess.
I really do wonder why lines like "Storage Wars" was in there
the script is among the worst I've ever seen
it's appalling and it does everything it sets out to do poorly
I think a lot of his lines were cut and the voice over replaced them. Theres a scene where he closes his bank account and while the clerk talks he doesnt say a thing. there HAD to be lines there
there's a way to do the stoic badass thing
and then there's what they did
none of it worked and the flick felt very uneven and uncohesive
>Theres a scene where he closes his bank account and while the clerk talks he doesnt say a thing
how do you miss points of scenes so bad kek
this is the kind of people shitting on the movie, top kek, stick to john wick kiddo
it's odd bro
there's nothing cool or badass about it, it's genuinely poor filmmaking
there's a ton of oddly cut scenes too where you can tell it didn't turn out well so they just cut around it
it felt sloppy all around
This movie is being out the definition of pseuds, which is hilarious because it’s not even a pretentious or ambitious film
exactly
I understood the premise they were going for just fine, it's just that none of it landed or worked at all
>I understood the premise they were going for just fine
Id be very worried if you didnt considering he narrates his every thought
>considering he narrates his every thought
by the 7th time he repeated that odd mantra I was already checked out
frickin' thing sucked
it feels like it was written for 3rd world morons
have you watched the movie? its obvious there were lines for him. entire movie is a mess
McDonalds, Starbucks, and Amazon paid for the movie
as i read this thread i'm noticing a pattern of the posts with reddit mannerisms and speech patterns disliking the film
>find out Fincher made movie about a professional contract killer
>think of all the crazy Agent 47 shit he's going to come up with
>watch movie
>the most autistic things he does in the movie is eat hamburger without a bun and listen to The Smiths
>the most elaborate "infiltration" he comes up with is dressing up as a garbage man to get inside a lawyer's office
>4 out of 5 kills is just him executing someone after a short chat
>one fist fight
>>one fist fight
that went on for 5 minutes longer than it should have
it was cartoonish in a bad way
it should have been 30 seconds of brutality and that's it
>pajeet phone posters: The Thread
Thought it was great, went into it apprehensive after seeing some threads where people were complaining. This is the first time a movie has made me wonder if it’s time to stop posting here, because I don’t know what most people are smoking at this point. Hopefully it’s just people seething over Netflix originals and Cinemaphile will have a more positive consensus once some time has passed.
>Hopefully it’s just people seething over Netflix originals
no one does that here redditgay
the flick is poor based on the merits of the filmmaking
stop making everything into a try hard YT essay you fricking moron
>It’s bad because I say it is, you don’t understand le hekken merits of film making!
Not an argument and of course the person who brings up Reddit out of nowhere talks like a Redditgay.
that's rich coming from the dork whos says shit like
>Not an argument
nice phoneposting too bud
all you're missing is an oxford comma and you're full pseud mode wtf
>>It’s bad because I say it is
that's right
oh god it's another one of those
>OMG BRO IT WAS FINE JUST ACCEPT THE SLOP IT'S BETTER THAN XYZ GAWD
get some taste you low iq dipshit
>Trying to associate IQ with taste in movies
You have no real accolades in life if you have to resort to this embarrassing behavior to feel smart. Btw, who are you quoting, moron? Cause it sure ain’t me.
I literally work in hollywood
>This is the first time a movie has made me wonder if it’s time to stop posting here
Genuinely I've never seen such a moronic response to a movie on this board. And I've been here for a while. Its a simple solidly made revenge flick but apparently the subtle irony and humor is completely lost on everyone here. And seemingly no one can't grasp the plot even though it's the most simple fricking plot possible.
>but apparently the subtle irony and humor
subtle like a fricking truck
>And seemingly no one can't grasp the plot
it's not complex, it's straight up bad
jfc
I bet you were on your phone the whole time zoom zoom
I don’t know how many times I have to say this. I get the irony. I get what they’re doing. The movie just isn’t well made. The narration is cheesy and meandering at best and cringy at worst, and it destroys any sense of atmosphere. The soundtrack is bad and distracting. The acting is poor. The story is generic.
It’s a clever idea for a movie but it just isn’t made well. It’s not that we didn’t get the “subtle irony”, it’s that the film just isn’t that good.
You sound exactly like the people who care more about diversity or progressive politics in their film than merit.
>The narration is cheesy and meandering at best and cringy at worst, and it destroys any sense of atmosphere.
That's the point. The narrator is delusional and pretentious.
>The soundtrack is bad and distracting.
It's The Smiths homosexual
>The acting is poor.
Your opinion but a bad one
>The story is generic.
Generic? Sure. Effective and solid? Yes. Does everything have to have a mindblowing story for you to enjoy it?
>Effective and solid? Yes
except it's not
it's all over the place and very uneven
the concept is simple as it gets, but it never delivers on its premise
its a slog and the 'twist' ending is shrugworthy
I just didn't care
Not that anon, but in every post you make you don’t even give examples. It’s just variations of “it’s bad because I say so!” every time someone actually brings up specific things in the movie.
this isn't your community college debate 101 class homosexual
I'm capable of forming my own opinions on art for a multitude of reasons that don't require explanation
I work in the film industry and I'd genuinely be worried for my job if this film had my name on it
it's sloppy, meandering and just not well executed given the budget and talent involved
>it's sloppy, meandering and just not well executed given the budget and talent involved
right, if this was a first time director on an indie budget, I'd be impressed
but this is a big-budget AAA film and it's just a total frickin mess, and there's no good excuse as to why
>Still no actual examples
>poster is a pretentious homosexual who thinks he’s hot shit because he sucks wiener in Hollywood for a living
Crazy how I have multiple friends working in Hollywood, from writers rooms to film distribution companies, and none of them are self absorbed c**ts like you are. Get over yourself, Jesus Christ.
>and none of them are self absorbed c**ts like you are.
it's called having skills and talent, wagie
tell your 'friends' to fetch my latte
>I work in the film industry
Gladly in no film industry that matters
>I made the film annoying on purpose
>I ruined my own atmosphere on purpose
Cool. Even if this is true, I still don’t like your movie.
no bro you don't get it
they were doing 146 layers of hyper meta irony that only 178 IQ chads can understand and the films not bad, you're just not a PhD film student award winning film maker like the rest of Cinemaphile
should have just called it Lé K_.llér
I have nothing more to say other than you are an insufferable homosexual Black person.
>It’s a clever idea for a movie but it just isn’t made well
exactly
well said bro, I felt the same way
it's just a fat miss overall and finchers worst my a mile
>reaches in to kitchen drawer during fight
>grabs cheese grater
Just finished watching it.
Pretty great and literally me in every way imaginable, including being a massive fan of Morrissey and The Smiths.
7/10. Focused, tense and I liked how the movie's story was practically solved when his waifu woke up in the hospital and told him what happened.
And to clarify: with story I mean his departure from nihilism.
Crappy Amazon advert
yeah, it's kino. already laughed my ass off on the first scene. redditors clearly mad and thought they were getting capeshit
pretty kino
It was produced by Netflix so i won't even bother.
Michael Fassbender...IS...the K__ . ller
m-michael???
y-you're the k-k_.ller?!?!?!??!
This movie just made me what a proper Hitman 47 movie/TV series. Just a focused 47 doing hit after hit either creative or funny or action packed, while being autistic and monologuing his thoughts Dexter style. That's it.
>while being autistic and monologuing his thoughts
why are you all like this?
it's disgusting