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The fact the sole use of ai makes Cinemaphilemblr go into a schizo cope frenzy gives me high hopes for more ai produced content
the good part about the AI controversy with this video and Grey DeLisle acting like a sperg is that legitimately good people in the internet VA community reached out with resources like forums where there'd be people willing to do a fun fan project like this for free or super cheap and he's gotten some people to help redub the videoand remove the AI voices
but on the topic of the short itself, it's really cool, the whole Rankin-Bass inspired animation is neat and it legitmiately feels like something that could have come out in the 70s with the original show.
Oh nice, he's working on a redub. Good for him.
>Grey DeLisle acting like a sperg
I never seen someone who was loved by so many people since they were kids became most hated woman by overnight Jesus Fricking Christ and Jay Lender needs to kill himself
at least it's not as bad as when Tara sperged at the uber driver
you either die a hero or live long enough to be a villain
>Grey DeLisle acting like a sperg
link to this?
https://twitter.com/GreyDeLisle/status/1690489090389532672
She hasn't said anything else about it since, whereas Jay Lender's still debating with other people.
oh cool those people do VA work for free?
Yeah, a lot of them are so hungry for a foothold they’ll do it for
E X P O S U R E
why is she always anger-y
>Studio backed hack fraud doesn't look into an issue and sends her mob of slop guzzling fans to attack some amateur artist because he doesn't have access to company funds to hire and fire VAs like she can.
Very cool.
I get the impression no one has ever told Viv "No" before in her life.
Why would you want a bunch of shitty impressions done on crappy mics when you can perfectly emulate the voice actors in a few minutes?
Fat b***h
It's not illegal. So who gives a shit. Most vas are libshit homosexuals that no one wants to work6 with anymore
... This b***h got popular after doing an animated cover of a song, how is that any fricking different from why people get mad about AI shit.
Will this b***h shut her fat mouth already? My God.
I wanna be excited for Hazbin but damn, every time Viz opens her mouth she says something stupid.
Frick off
OP here, I didn't think to check the archive for a thread like this. I just saw something cool and thought I'd share it. I didn't know about the AI controversy, I just thought the animation was passionate and soulful. It's rare to see an fan animation of a established franchise that doesn't have some gorey, nihilistic, or edgy jokes, I was just genuinely surprised it was played straight as if it was an authentic Scooby Doo episode I'd watch on boomerang as a child. Plus I'm somewhat excited to see someone else using the stop motion style blender animation techniques that Worthikids did in Captain Yojima.
It is fairly unique in a sea of Adult Dora the explorer, Adult Caiu, adult Arthur, all of which involve them being washed up losers who swear a lot and hate life.
...the frick happened to Gen X?
>washed up losers who swear a lot and hate life
>Gen X
What isn't making sense to you here?
The writers like projecting their issues or "grounded" shit onto existing characters. Apparently, actual therapy is too much for show runners.
I hate to bring this up again but this fits way too damn well to leave alone.
Yeah, I'm glad to see this CG stop motion style is making its rounds.
>I didn't know about the AI controversy
Unless you’ve been living underneath a rock that’s a crock of shit.
I made this thread minutes after I watched the video.
Sure you did anon.
You're about as much of a disingenuous homosexual as the c**t who made the video.
Keep biting the bait you fricking morons.
We don't bite, he wins since no one can oppose him. We bite, he wins because he got attention. What the frick kind of discourse is this.
>We don't bite
That’s exactly what you’re fricking doing. But if you get off to it then keep on replying I guess.
This is why telling people not to bite the bait is a losing battle. The baiter will always win because they know no one can resist it.
Then don’t fricking reply. It’s not that hard.
No, you need a mod that will ban them. That will stop it for good, at least until they just get another account thanks to prepaid mobile internet.
>they just get another account
😐
Another internet account, not Cinemaphile account.
Jesus Christ anon. This shit isn’t fricking rocket science. Are you new here or something?
No one outside of twitter (normal people) cares.
FNAF's backstory, sans the murder, is about as close to an actual scooby plot modern horror can get.
>weird psycho inventor gets inside specially made suit to scare people inside of his co-owned restaurant
Sub out the sadistic immortality hunt via children crying themselves to death for buried diamonds or oil or something beneath the restaurant and it fits just right
Weirdly enough, wouldn't this fit in with the early canon? Before he killed someone? There needs to be more alternate timelines where nobody dies because Scooby Doo showed up.
He killed someone before climbing into the suit to scare people. Sure he was in there before murdering anyone but he wasn't doing anything yet (that we know of)
Yeah sure but you could easily write an alternate take where he's doing some more basic crimes that the gang come to investigate without murder having come into it
Pretty sure agony doesn't require death like remnant so he could just be causing the kids intense fear via scaring them to harvest it.
I don't know what the hell any of that means
I do understand the books introduce some straight up wacky shit to the deep lore
ai gays really at it today uh
Cope, the future is NOW, gramps!
>bully the next Worthikids off the internet because he didn't have thousands of dollars to give you
Twitter should be ashamed
>modern zoomer horror?
Well apparently it works if you delete everything about the Zoomer horror except for a villain's name and maybe a location. Change him to a tiger and you'd call the rest of this FNAF easter eggs, not really a rip off.
I mean, its genuinely good, unique artstyle that meshes perfectly with the time frame of the original Scooby Doo show that makes it feel like a special that could've happened back then, but lets face it, it's only good because the only FNAF part is a name.
Because it’s a Scooby Doo parody that happens to be in a FNAF setting.
You could easily do the reverse, tonally and structure wise make it FNAF with the security guard role just so happening to be the Scooby gang.
Also, I feel like the OP short would have felt better if it was 20 minutes. Give time for a few more clues pointing to Afton, a red herring or two pointing tk the guard and Henry, more time to explore the location(despite being labeled Freddy’s it’s clearly only got the two Fredbears robots), more FNAF references.
I hope Grey gets raped by a pack of feral Black folk.
>feral Black folk.
There's tame ones?
Rich ones still rape
I can't believe FNaF is what will pave the way to killing the American animation industry.
morning sirs
it's this the thread again??
No, we're actually trying to talk about the damn short. I'm not a proponent of AI but can we keep it that way?
You know the drill
Every day until you like it
And it won’t be the last either. Some frick will keep spamming this shit.
ignore forced meme wiener suckers
So the guy used AI voices, huh? What would be the problem if this individual had the talent to replicate those voices on his own without the need for AI?
Why can't Cinemaphile grasp AI art and AI voices are different issues? I agree that AI art is slop, it looks like utter shit and generally should never be used beyond a 1 hour jerk off session. AI art is garbage and does not (and should not) replace the process of art or learning to draw.
AI voices are another matter. If you want a good cartoon character impression you probably won't be able to do it yourself just by practice alone, and the only other option is paying someone. And I just can't bring myself to agree that expressing yourself artistically should be paywalled (art prooompters have no excuses, there's free art programs and there's no way they don't already have a pen, pencil and paper lying around).
Like, look at this kid's video. It's fricking stopmotion. He's done the animation frame by frame himself, he's not just some lazy pajeet who doesn't want to put any work in and doesn't give a shit about art. I don't understand anons seeing him as this lazy, art-hating monster for not paying someone else in order to complete his passion project.
>He's done the animation frame by frame himself, he's not just some lazy pajeet who doesn't want to put any work in and doesn't give a shit about art
If he used AI for the voices it's almost a guarantee he used it for the video itself.
This is no artist.
Where else did he use AI?
>It's fricking stopmotion.
It's Blender CGI actually. Not to imply that makes it lesser, it's still stupidly fricking impressive he made Blender perfectly recreate the look and feel of Rankin Bass animation, right down to the fuzzy textures. This obviously took a shitload more work than it had any right to just to make everyone look like they walked off Rudolf the Red Nose Reindeer, but it's CGI.
Good fricking luck finding an AI generator that could look that consistent frame by frame.
>It's Blender CGI actually. Not to imply that makes it lesser, it's still stupidly fricking impressive he made Blender perfectly recreate the look and feel of Rankin Bass animation, right down to the fuzzy textures.
So since you can mimic stop motion in blnder, does that mean we can get more films like Coraline? It always impressive when people go the extra mile to emulate a style and try to capture both the writing and time of an animation style. I wish people were more focused on that over the voice shit but grey had to make it a big mess.
>So since you can mimic stop motion in blnder, does that mean we can get more films like Coraline?
Yes. In fact, this was a problem with Corpse Bride, they used CGI to help out filling inframes but it stopped looking like Stop Motion and just looked like regular old CGI. Emulation of Clay puppets, specifically, is one of the easier ones due to their plasticy look. Obviously the hard part, and what was probably the biggest hurdle for this short, is art style. Sure, you can try to copy Coraline, but unless you really watched it, something's going to feel off or missing. Like in the Scooby short, you notice that occasionally their mouths do odd side shifts? Probably not, because it was a thing Cornelius did in Rudolf or Santa did in his two shorts(Not Ruduolph)
The tech to make a Coraline style film is there,has been for decades, with Blender even, but unless you actually have a passion for making it have a look and feel of something unique, it's just going to end up looking like regular low budget CGI.
>but unless you actually have a passion for making it have a look and feel of something unique, it's just going to end up looking like regular low budget CGI.
I feel there was a similar topic in a thread when it was about Disney when comparing snow white to the later movies. It really does come down to passion, skill and time(money).
>Corpse Bride
Which is extra sad because the clockwork mechanisms they used for expressions were extremely intricate and very impressive so the fact that it all kinda gets lost is too bad
Oh, fair enough then, it was so good it genuinely fooled me. 3D animation is still kind of digital puppet stopmotion in a way.
I forgot Cinemaphile has only 2 opinions on 3D
>damn this character makes me horny
>FRICK 3D IT KILLED 2D THE WEST HAS FALLEN
It’s impressive, but there are YouTube tutorials on how to do that exact thing and even a few prefab plugins to help. He’s not the first to do it, but knew where to look.
>Like, look at this kid's video. It's fricking stopmotion. He's done the animation frame by frame himself
It's blender, so it's still basically soulless AI slop
Some guy had a dream of a 1960's Scooby Doo episode starring the villain from FNAF all done in the Rankin Bass Stop Motion style and he made it fricking happen
You find me something in the last 10 years with that much soul.
>soul
>AI slop
Pick one and only one, pajeet.
Oh, what's that? "I didn't find one, please don't judge my failure too harshly!"? Well I understand anon.
>human wrote the script
>human did the storyboards
>human created the art
>human animated the scenes
Cinemaphile is so fricking weird about AI. 1 aspect taints everything, and out of everything listed, voices are probably the most forgivable thing to AI generate.
>human allegedly wrote the script
>human allegedly did the storyboards
>human allegedly created the art
>human allegedly animated the scenes
Nothing is forgivable to generate with a soulless computer algorithm.
>If it counts for anything, the rest of the video is painstakingly designed, modeled, textured, animated, lit, rendered, edited, composited, and posted all by me, 1000% from scratch by hand with nothing other than my own brain and creative drive doing the work. I even learned to do a Scooby impression so I could voice Scooby myself!
I mean it's not undeniable proof but I'm willing to take his word for it
You can literally see tons of frames with AI artifacts on them from putting a png into a slop generator
What's sad is this situation could've been wholesome. Grey could have just offered to voice Daphne in the short, everyone would have been happy.
Schizophrenia
>Grey could have just offered to voice Daphne in the short
Yeah, she should've just agreed to work for pennies or nothing, otherwise this person would've stolen her work anyway which is exactly what he did.
Totally not extortion.
>otherwise this person would've stolen her work anyway which is exactly what he did.
An AI model for that Daphne voice would've used either Indira Stefanianna or Heather North, almost certainly Heather due to a farrrr bigger amount of voice clips to work with. Heather can't comment on her opinions on the matter on account of her having a case of the dead
AI art schizophrenics piss me the frick off. The same people who act like they're protecting hard-working artists will immediately and gleefully shit all over real art made from scratch the moment they believe it might be AI, they way overestimate their AI shit detectors and end up screeching like psychotic baboons at a bunch of false positives.
Schizo
I see the resident schizos are getting uppity again.
Epic gaslighting, you definitely don't look like a fricking moron
What is a schizo anymore at this point if you call other people schizos for calling you out for being a schizo?
Pretty sure you’re a schizo anon. Damn shame that is.
You just literally accused the artists of ai faking everything, INCLUDING THE ANIMATION AND YOU HAVE THE FRICKING GALL TO SAY HE'S THE SCHIZO?
>tfw this just reveals how many people draw/animate as bad as an unthinking robot trained on thieving the lowest common denominator
But seriously you do deserve every ounce of mockery you get if your art can be mistaken for AI that easily. Frick the fnaf kid and his soulless CGI cashgrab video.
First of all
>If it counts for anything
It doesn't.
Second, if he's already generating voice work, the artwork itself is almost certainly stolen as well.
It's symptomatic of it being le hot button issue of the society we live in
Fact is 4chinz only cares a single iota as much about AI because Twitter does at the moment
Cinemaphile really is like a tsundere girlfriend to Twitter when you really think about it
I don't dislike the guy, in fact I think his work is pretty goddamn impressive. That said, I'm more sick of all the AI stealth threads and drama prostitute threads. A lot more could be talked about regarding this short beyond 'ha ha people on twitter that I don't like don't like this thing' and 'OMFG AI WAS USED IN IT' yet somehow that's what always comes down to being the main talking points. Even just 20-30 posts in and already it's the dominating conversation. It just gets fricking obnoxious at a point.
This. Can't wait until the dude finishes the updated version with actual VAs so people can shut up about the AI voices already, because this is impressive stuff otherwise.
Does he have an estimated date on when that's going to be ready? I'd imagine that the last minute situation is making it kind of unpredictable.
It would be hypocritical of me or any other artist/animator to be against only AI art. AI voice is still taking the work of a VA, proomters would say the same excuse you did for AI voice about not being able to do it themselves so no harm done. Morals aside, using AI voices trained without actors or their estates consent is violating right of publicity laws. That is pretty clear cut, even if copyright violations for AI art is still being decided in the courts.
I cannot be the only one who finds it odd that now Fnaf shorts are in multiple 1960's animation styles. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukoHI0cVP_4 They literally did a scooby doo parody already and then this guy just does it somehow 100 percent unique but still fits. What is this timeline.
People have been making TF2 videos using AI for years with no issues. Why is it suddenly morally wrong?
The TF2 voice actors aren't women
The AI in TF2 videos only replaced voice splicing
Technically I think AI voices are just automated voice splicing so you don't have to manually cut the clips yourself anymore
>automated voice
That's pretty much how AI works, yeah.
AI replaced all of splicing in general. Zone was known for splicing lines, now he can get better results much faster. Nobody was against splicing lines at all despite "not having the VA's consent", but now it's a problem after we get a tool that makes it ten times easier?
>now it's a problem after we get a tool that makes it ten times easier?
...Yeah?
Time and effort is a limiting factor, both in terms of output rate and who has the will to stick with it. As opposed to letting any moron flood a hundred pages worth of an image hosting booru every day with slop
By that logic, the camera, digital tools, auto-tune, and using CG to replicate stop-motion should be frowned upon, too. Yet, if you said to anyone now-a-days that you're selling your soul using those tools, you'd get laughed out of a room.
Yeah. The old way of manually splicing voices used to take up so much of your own time that the idea of someone using them for long strings of dialogue didn't cross anyones minds. But now things are different lol
>It's okay to take work from stop motion artists by using blender to simulate it.
>It's NOT okay to take work from voice actors by using AI voices in your amateur productions
Seems like a bit of a double standard.
Why does anyone using AI throw you homosexuals into such a massive b***h fit?
Welp, sorry to any FNAF/Scoob autist bros
It seems the discussion has turned fully terminal screechfest
Maybe in a few weeks when Twitter is howling about something new and Cinemaphile has come running to follow in their footsteps
I don't even like FNAF that much and the whole idea behind this intrigues me. Scooby Doo has such infinite crossover potential.
I was pleasantly surprised it didn't turn into a gore sex fest and instead was just a Scooby Doo episode done in old Rankin Bass style
Which is weird when you realize that neither of these properties have gore or sex. FNAF's goriest moment is that you can kind of see a rotted skeleton if you squint realllllly hard at a gap in a suit in one of the later entries, and Cawthon being devout means there's not even a mention of sex. Obviously, same goes for Scooby Doo before this decade.
It's fricking bizarre how trained we are to expect that "Parody" just means this shit and now it's seeped into the actual fricking franchise.
>FNAF's goriest moment is that you can kind of see a rotted skeleton if you squint really hard
Burntrap was extremely visible and there wouldn't really be a reason to bring up sex in fnaf. Technically the other gorey moment is the audio when you move through where the technicians are hung since it implies they might have been scooped. Honestly, fnaf use of 8 bit for the gore and some kills is pretty cool.
>Burntrap was extremely visible
I dunno, I can see the jaw maybe, but this doesn't really look human like enough to be gorey.
That midsection does look more like a plant or Resident Evil Plagus than it does a skeleton.
not zoomer but I liked the one with Michael Myers
I like it, too bad about the AI stuff.
Not that he used it, I completely understand why he did, but I also understand why voice actors whose voices are being imitated with AI would get upset at this.
It sucks that there is a controversy here and we can't all just enjoy the genuinely charming animation and humor.
>but I also understand why voice actors whose voices are being imitated with AI would get upset at this.
Since he said the voice clips were sourced from the original, the only living voices that got emulated is Frank Welker, who hasn't chimed in on this. And Nicole Jaffe, who also hasn't said anything on it The model for Daphne's two lines would've been Heather North, who voiced Daphne from 1970 to 1997, and who also came back in 2003. That's 30 years of voice clips to work with across a half dozen shows, and they would've been consistent. She didn't voice her opinion because she ded
Actually, it says he used A.I Grey and A.I Mindy Cohn in the credits for Daphne and Velma, which raises the question of why he used them over the OGs?
What the frick is wrong with these people?
Fair point, the head is human but everything else looks like he is just strands.
Frick,sorry its late. Mistook the Mindys when it came to Velma, no idea why he used Greg(Grey) for Daphne though.
>The model for Daphne's two lines would've been Heather North
According to the credits, it's an AI of Grey DeLisle, who I'm pretty sure has been very vocal about her disapproval of this.
The problem with AI is that everyone seems to have a very strong opinion about it, they either love it or hate it, except when it comes to meme song covers or stuff like presidents playing Minecraft or Joe Rogan discussing Bionicle.
It seems like most people are either fine with or don't care about AI when it's used for jokey shitposts like that, but when it's used for more "legitimate" stuff like shows, movies, and a very impressive Scooby/FNAF crossover short, people get upset.
I think the haters need to understand this isn't some big corporation trying to replace VAs, this is just some kid who didn't think enough about the reaction using AI voices would get.
I really wish he had the foresight to know doing something like this would've come with backlash, I don't think he did anything wrong, but this could've definitely been avoided by making some questions to the VA community, I'm sure he could've gotten a bunch of volunteers.
>most people are either fine with or don't care about AI when it's used for jokey shitposts
Cinemaphile threw a b***hfit in a spongebob ai cover thread about them being SOVLLESS
and this is why we need an /ai/ board
at this point I'd get behind it just to quarantine this shit. Or at the very least make sure AI shitting from both sides stays on Cinemaphile or something.
even the ai posters on Cinemaphile want a dedicated /ai/ board. haven't spent enough time on Cinemaphile to understand why, but i know that it's what a lot of them want.
It would clean up /trash/ too
That's an oxymoron, anon.
Everything was fine and dandy with the spanish homer simpson songs until the resident schizo showed up to scream when he saw his husbabdo sing. Personally I'd love to use ai to voice over Cinemaphile green texts like the timmy school shooter one.
this person has great promise animation wise I just wish people would stop giving him shit for using AI it hurts people who enjoy and are fans of the industry
I see Cinemaphile also has a metaschizo problem.
>Cinemaphile
Go back
found him
Is that when schizos accuse regular anons of being schizos? The kind where once they ingrain themselves deep enough on the board, you don't want to argue with them anymore because it feels like you're starting unnecessary drama, no matter how badly they're shitting up a thread?
Because you have no idea how many of those Cinemaphile's had since the lockdown. That label seems so obvious now but I never quite knew how to articulate this phenomenon.
Bingo
Damn. Hard quints and hard truth.
>the urge to post chanda every time a Cinemaphile thread that mentions AI and Indians pops up
Someone post the porn already.
I want all VAs to lose their jobs and end up homeless.
I don’t fricking believe for a second that OP didn’t see this thread ending up like this.
>We need to stop gatekeeping people out of animation
>We need to gatekeep other people out if animation
What happened?
>nodraws think virtue-signalling how against AI they are by accusing real art of being AI will somehow help artists
All sides in this debate frustrate me to no end
so why exactly does using ai voice make it soulless?
i think it has to do with how ai voices still sound "predictable" and has a hard time completely knowing the context of the sentence. elevenlabs's v2 (that's in alpha) sounds much better, though
moron just splice the voice clips yourself like in the old YTP days, or just get a dirt cheap VA from Fiverr. Using AI for anything makes you a lazy homosexual who just wants instant gratification.
but what if you personally feed your own private ai voice clips for it to learn from? surely that would take a long time, no?
Why in the world would you feed voice lines into an AI to make a voice bot? Wouldn't that mean the person is already capable of just...doing it on their own without bothering with the AI? Since the AI isn't going to sound like what you want the character to sound like if you can't already emulate the voice.
Just...seems like a weird way to go about it.
It's usually done by people who experience voice loss. They have recordings of themselves when they had a voice and they feed them to train the model
>They have recordings of themselves when they had a voice
Do people usually have those? I don't keep recordings of myself and I don't know anyone who does it either. I guess I can see why someone would start recording themselves for it if they were going to experience eventual voice loss, though. Interesting, didn't know about AI being used that way.
yeah, ai and advanced tech in general tends to benefit the disabled. there's a reason why many "transhumans" are disabled people equipped with high tech
>just splice the voice clips yourself like in the old YTP days
AI voices are essentially automatic voice splicing. The idea you should use rudimentary technology just because advancement is bad is baffling.
>Stop using Photoshop. All those brushes that automatically let you paint curves, shapes and patterns that before you had to manually draw are soulless. Retvrn to ms pvint.
That's not to say manual voice splicing is bad, it's still very impressive even now, just like someone creating a beautiful painting in MS Paint is impressive. But all AI voices do is take out hours of meticulous, tedious work, it makes life easier for people who actually want to sit down and create stuff. It feels like people getting mad about the "barrier to entry being lowered" are annoyed about a secret club getting infiltrated that they're not even a part of in the first place, because if you did work with this stuff, you'd be able to appreciate the tool or at least understand why it exists even if you didn't want to use it yourself.
comeonnow.jpg
You know damn well a lot of people would just use it as a crutch and go on to shit out a bunch of putrid slop. Most of the people parading it around were to fricking lazy to get started in the first place.
Anti AI gays are morons. You don't produce anything of value. A machine can do better
The fricking irony of this if you’re being serious. Which for your sake I hope you aren’t.
I am being serious. All media made by you homosexuals is shit. Machine shit is leagues better then your shit
Ah, then you’re a fricking moron.
Your work is shit. And if a robot can take your job it proves it beyond any shadow of a doubt.
Come on someone post the smut already
Impressive, very impressive.
I've heard AIs cover that are better than the original songs, so I don't see the issue with using them for fan projects if you don't have money to bankroll VAs.
The anti- A.I crowd sperging the FRICK OUT over this video is the most surreal thing I've seen.
like actual mental breakdowns over someone just using a new tool
what's worse is that when this all passes you're all not going to see how you all looked like utter psychos
I’ve seen more people who are into AI getting pissy over people shitting on this if anything.
You don't have to be into AI to understand that completely disregarding all the work put into this animation just because he used AI for voices is very unreasonable.
He's not out here trying to replace actual VAs, he's just working with what he has.
Even you guys can understand why this would taint the whole thing for some people though.
I understand it completely, this isn't just some black and white situation, but it just seems like everyone forgot how to have moderate reactions.
this
I'm so tired of all the reeing from both sides
blame social media algos that rely on attention to gain revenue
I'm an anti-AIgay and legitimately dislike AI but these two are right. It isn't a fair critique of an indie animator when he's just working with what he has, especially when he managed to do a lot of really impressive shit with what he had.
Eh, even if the voices weren’t the most accurate he could’ve gotten some friends to do it instead. I don’t think he’d get nearly as much shit if he had taken that approach instead of using AI for the voices.
If he was autistic enough to accurately emulate the style of frame by frame stopmotion, why would he settle for mediocre to shit voice actors? Granted, the AI's inflections are pretty wooden, but the character impressions are at least very accurate.
>If he was autistic enough to accurately emulate the style of frame by frame stopmotion, why would he settle for mediocre to shit voice actors?
Because it's soulful and shows actual care and effort? Zoomers are obsessed with taking shortcuts and then justifying their laziness with excuse after excuse.
moronic boomer who thinks AI is bad. You sound like an old frick
Yeah but on the flip side he clearly understands that and is redubbing it. So it's even less fair to ride his ass about it when not only is he just an indie animator making a fan project, he's also apparently working to make exactly that. Shit was just an oversight and with AI so accessible I can absolutely see why someone would decide to use it for that.
it's good that he has gotten enough attention to get voice actors who are interested in dubbing the short, at least
There's no issue with using AI for voices when you want accurate voices
that's mostly because anti- A.I gays are basically saying "you used A.I so it's all trash" which isn't really a fair critic.
AI voice acting is the one type of nu-AI that isn’t garbage. Mostly because it doesn’t have to do any creative work, it just translates text to soundwaves.
Voice acting will legitimately become a dead industry in about a decade unless they somehow transition into seiyuu-style semi-idolshit.
Cool short and AI voices are fine. You’re definitely not gonna make friends in animation industry by using AI especially during the current strike.
Who wants to make animation industry friends? I'd rather there be a new group of outsiders.
Connections mean a lot especially if you’re trying to get work or get help producing your own content. People are antagonizing him for basically nothing tho
Everyone calling the animation lazy because of a completely unrelated aspect of the video are trolls, right?
Right Cinemaphile?
No. They aren't. Just leftists who create nothing of value sad that people are replacing them. Make better shit then
There is no proof the animation or writing isn't AI generated too, which both most likely are considering the creator is an AIgay
in case you hadn't noticed, Cinemaphile is being raided by AIgays right now. So yes, it's mostly trolling. Mostly. Cinemaphile also isn't particularly known for having deep insight on shit, either.
Unless I missed it I haven’t seen anyone shitting on the animation. It’s the use of AI voices that’s the big issue.
There's a couple people in the thread accusing the animation of being AI generated under the assumption that the creator using AI voices means the script and animation was AI generated as well. There's pretty much no proof of it but eh.
3 months down the drain lol
What do you mean? most none mentally ill people seemed to like the video.
All he had to do was pay a voice actor. They literally work for peanuts, especially if they're building up their portfolio. Am I supposed to feel sorry for this autistic moron for involving cancerous technology and surprise pikachuing when it goes bad?
You realize that this guy is probably an art student and probably can't even afford the peanuts.
>NOOOOO NOT $5
Please frick off
>The Worthikids rip-off short again
Very cool he could reproduce the style and influences someone else already realized, but with IP slop now and AI voices so everyone can culture war about it.
Get back to me when they make something with actual originality in it.
If he tried hard enough Frank Welker might voice in the next one.
Him and Tom Kenny are such bros. Just pure nice guys.
AI is getting pretty good
Literally everyone in that comment section proceeded to jerk off to porn that night and changed none of their habits whatsoever
Thats not true I haven't done it since I watched it.
>I checked out when he said "work". Why should I have to work for the life that I "deserve"? That makes no sense. I hate speeches like this too because it makes people believe that everyone in the world is destined for good life if they just work hard enough for it. That's just not how life is
It's not literally everyone since I am still clean since watching this.
Are you one of those high school kids gushing about how inspirational the video is and that you mean business with this 3 day streak, gotta stay strong for bats
>3 day streak
2 months now
yaaaas king slayyyy
Thanks
I like the literal self-admitted 15 year olds using the israelite brackets
>Actually really needed to hear this. Trying to sober up for my mom for Mother’s Day and I haven’t been for a while now. Damn near teared up at the end of this holy crap.
chris chan?
I am going to try to go sober again after watching this.
>using AI to stimulate fictional characters comforting you and giving you advice
absolute kino
*simulate, my bad
>The irony of people using porn as a digital coping mechanism only for those same people to seek help from a fabricated AI voice of a person who never said or meant anything that it was scripted to say. We truly are in a world beyond anything real anymore, especially love.
it is the sad truth, but it is what it is. it is a symptom of a systemic problem that is impossible to solve at an individual level
We need Superman to talk me out of watching Ryona next.
It's really cool, has the same charm of a Scooby-Doo episode while looking like something straight out of a Rankin/Bass production.