What gave birth to term "lore shows"? Non-episodic anime are not called "lore anime" so why is it different in western cartoons?
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What gave birth to term "lore shows"?
What gave birth to term "lore shows"? Non-episodic anime are not called "lore anime" so why is it different in western cartoons?
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I have literally never heard that term.
I think you just made that term up. The closest I've heard is 'loreshit' and that's usually used derogatively.
true, only Cinemaphile uses "lore" as a descriptor for a show type, normal people just say serial vs episodic. Lore is just the stuff that happens in the background , you can technically have lore in a episodic cartoon, characters will reference previous episodes.
Most so-called "lore shows" actually are episodic sitcoms. They're really just normal TV shows, that occasionally have status-quo changes and "worldbuilding" (worldbuilding is in quotes, because this is often quite an exaggeration)
Loretoons are just kids cartoons that have background continuity. It was never the established way to do a cartoon and hasn't really "settled in" as a way to do it. The only true definition of "Lore cartoon" is "new thing bad, old thing good" when you just didn't like a story for babies feeling like it was for babies. Look into your heart, you know it to be true.
>Loretoons are just kids cartoons that have background continuity
>being this disingenuous
so SpongeBob is a lore show since it has minor background continuity
>internet opinions can't be half baked and stupid, you're just disingenuous
Yes, unironically you could say that, because the term "lore cartoon' is moronic in the first place. It assumes cartoons have to be the opposite to be "normal" cartoons.
Cause most toons have always been comedies compared to anime.
Lore as a term has just gotten bigger due to YouTube and people making explainer videos for everything.
Probably Dark Souls was the first one I remember that really got a lot of lore conversation.
Interesting.
>What gave birth to term "lore shows"?
Nerds started prioritizing background and continuity over storytelling.
The first loreshit show would have been adventure time as patient zero, it was very heavily serialized after season 1. A lore show contrasts shows from the 90's and 00's which were very monster of the week episodic shows with very little continuity. Anime is like 90% adaptations of manga which have strong continuity by their nature so there was never a history of anime where the shows did not have continuity.
>The first loreshit show would have been adventure time
No, what set Adventure Time apart originally was that it was an anti-lore show. It only became a lore show later. Anons commented on the fact at the time. Also ATLA (which actually is a lore show) predated AT by 5 years, so AT can't be "patient zero".
>A lore show contrasts shows from the 90's and 00's which were very monster of the week episodic shows with very little continuity.
*inhale*
no
No, the first guy is right, AT is the first lore show.
This guy's got it right. What makes a lore show is having some underlying mysteries. It's not just continuity, it's sneaking hints in the background to a bigger picture. It really blew up with shit like Gravity Falls, where there's a bunch of ARG shit for people to talk about online.
>No, the first guy is right
Nope. Being anti-lore was one of early AT's selling points. That wouldn't be the case unless there were lore-based shows to contrast it with.
>What gave birth to term "lore shows"?
This thread?
So am I a mother now?
What?
When people say lore they typically mean "deep lore" meaning there is more to the story and world than you would pick up just casually watching the show. ATLA is very straight forward which is why its not a deep lore show like Adventure Time.
Well what type of lore shows do you prefer?
Shut up.
I suppose the concept of western cartoons with a linear, serialized story is just very new.
Cartoons here started with episodic stuff and stayed that way until Anime became popular.
Only a few shows tried to ape anime, and most of them were episodic too.
So the idea of a serialized show is still novel