>What happened to Rocket is worse than what Thanos did to me...

>What happened to Rocket is worse than what Thanos did to me...
Aaaand you lost me. This line felt forced and untrue

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    She should frick Rocket.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Jesus, hasn't Rocket suffered enough?

      yeah, agreed. That one line stuck with me as being a real stretch, especially not long after talking about her eyes being ripped out as a form of torture

      While we're talking about real stretches Gamora being a turbo b***h is really weird in Guardians 3 when we actually did see her pre-redemption in Guardians 1, she was nowhere near as aggressive and was actively looking for a way out from under Thanos' thumb, and became much more chill pretty quickly after realising she didn't have to fight everyone around her. Hell as I recall she was the one pushing the team to be heroes, and she sure as hell didn't have the moronic growling thing with Nebula.

      Her relationship with the Ravagers also felt like it was retconned mid-movie. She's introduced shoving through them like she rules them through fear and shit, but in the final scenes they're greeting her like family. So I guess...the Ravagers are OK with Gamora bullying them while "on the job" to look tough, presumably to accelerate building a reputation for herself in a new universe before anyone decides to take a crack at Thanos' favourite daughter? That's awful nice of them.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Eh, I actually thought your two problems there cancelled each other out. She was more aggressive and angry BECAUSE she'd been with the ravagers instead of the Guardians and that's more their mode. And yeah, I totally buy that the ravagers have good camaraderie with tough aggressive leader figures

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >She was more aggressive and angry BECAUSE she'd been with the ravagers instead of the Guardians and that's more their mod
          No but THAT'S THE PROBLEM for me.

          Like my memories about the Ravagers are fricking vague but from what I recall of the previous movies, they're one of those "we have a code, we'll frick you up if you break it" pirate crews. Like Yondu was out on his ass just because they thought he trafficked a kid. So you'd think, given the apparently warm and chummy environment Gamora would've had with the Ravagers that she'd turn out a bit more like Yondu.

          Instead, Guardians 3 spends the whole movie acting like Gamora is a literally non-housebroken feral child who barely understands the concepts of friends and family. Even though the last few scenes establish that actually yes, she does. Perfectly. You would think she would AT LEAST make more of an effort to open up to her sister Nebula, since even back in the Thanos days she was the one taking the initiative to bridge the divide. But nope, Gunn's doing the whole "Old Gamora is now Nebula and New Nebula is Gamora" bit, canon be damned.

          Imagine being a practically newborn Racoon and then being taken ripped apart, rebuild, cut open stuff taken out stuff taken in and repeating this entire process till you are a racoon in only the most superficial elements. All of this was done at once with nothing to numb the pain.
          Gamora had her entire life to get used to having robot parts replace her body since it was bit by bit.

          >Gamora
          I know you mean Nebula but considering how low key busted Gamora is revealed to be over the movies (seriously, she can plug into a spaceship. Thanos makes good cybernetics) I'm seriously baffled at how strong Gamora is supposed to actually be.

          She seems like a Black Widow-type for most of 1. Then in 2 she tackles Gamora in a fall that would've killed any human woman, and in Infinity War she was apparently convinced she KILLED Thanos with the dinky knife he gave her as a kid. Something Nebula (who okay, has mountain sized daddy issues) wasn't even sure was possible.

          I can at a stretch think she meant
          >This is worse than it was for me because he was so much more vulnerable and young
          But you can absolutely phrase what happened to her to sound worse than what happened to Rocket if you want to.
          [...]
          Eternals fricks everything up. And now the movies are all ignoring the fricking immense celestial head and hand sticking out of the ocean lol

          Imagine Banner briefly wondering if anyone should actually do something about the fricking stillborn cosmic being in the planet, and then being distracted by She-Hulk being dumb again.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yondu was pretty hard-ass himself. I just didn't think it was that big a contraction or canon-breaking

            >Thanos had excuses
            Does that make him better, though?
            Does it really?

            [...]
            OH, BY THE WAY since we're talking about Ravager morality let's not discount the What If? timeline where T'challa becomes a Ravager and apparently unlocks fricking Mass Effect-style paragon dialogue options that let him convince Thanos to end his whole crusade (but...not bring the Black Order with him for some reason. In fact they're enemies now, even though the Black Order's whole characterisation is being fanatically loyal to Thanos), is a better leader than Quill ever was and somehow convinced Nebula to start growing hair.

            >Anon shut the frick up, we both know that What If? only exists to mourn Chadwick
            But it DOES exist and it IS canon that somehow, T'challa not only thrives under Ravager adoptive parentts but magically transcends nearly all the anger issues he had in his intro in Cap 3, and instead of being a stoic, barely restrained angry vigilante is the space Chad that Peter Quill wishes he was.

            There too I thought "Eh, parallel universe where people are just very different." The Thanos bit was basically a gag
            It's Marvel, pretty much everything can be handwaved with "Stuff happened offscreen that makes this make sense."

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              I must admit my memories of Yondu are faint and heavily tainted by I'M MARY POPPINS Y'ALL but I will at least stand my ground that Yondu's style of tricksy, calculating hardass was very different from G3 Gamora acting like a pouty teenager forced to go on a roadtrip with the special ed kids.

              To play devil's advocate against myself though I honestly did end up feeling sympathetic for Nebula and Gamora because Gunn refuses to leave his comedic safe zone and therefore the Guardians aren't allowed to be more competent than they should be. And so with Rocket in a coma for most of the movie, Nebula is pretty much playing babysitter with moronic children.

              Also hard disagree. This isn't Ultron succeeding in his plan a little faster than the Avengers were prepared for. This isn't like Peggy Carter presumably getting a pass for sexism because she was America's first super soldier or a magical quantum virus sweeping across the Earth. That What If? in particular is founded on the assumption that /T'challa is destined to be a Chad even without any of the training or familial support that made him the man he was in Cap 3/

              Although while we're talking about silly What If gags, I really wondered what happened to Hela in the Party Thor timeline. Like with Loki not fricking shit up I can see Odin being healthy enough to keep her sealed indefinitely, but on the other hand if Thor somehow talked fricking SURTUR into making out with the statue of Liberty instead of destroying Asgard I have to wonder if his sister is his side piece or something.

              >Anon, that's lewd-
              Listen.
              The Omnipotence City bit in Thor 4 canonised the idea that the gods-which include dragons, anthromorphic animals and a fricking giant dumpling regularly have orgies together when they meet up. And Zeus-tier debauchery is apparently considered normal. At this point I'm not discounting the idea that Hela used to ride her dad's dick.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Thanos makes good cybernetics
            Except Thanos didn't make that arm. It's a brand new arm that I guess we're supposed to think Rocket made out of Winter Soldier's? No explanation for Nebula's wings though

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Oh right yeah, I keep forgetting Rocket is the Guardians' armourer for some reason and that he's actually really fricking scarily good at it. Goddamn by G3 Nebula is basically IM2 Iron Man-light, if the Guardians stayed together he'd probably have upgraded her into a fricking Evangelion if she'd let him.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Nebula strapped on the wings just before we saw them, they were basically a fancy jetpack

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Gamora being a turbo b***h is really weird in Guardians 3 when we actually did see her pre-redemption in Guardians 1, she was nowhere near as aggressive and was actively looking for a way out from under Thanos' thumb, and became much more chill pretty quickly after realising she didn't have to fight everyone around her. Hell as I recall she was the one pushing the team to be heroes
        The way I reconcile it, and yes it's a cope, is that in Guardians1, Gamora is acting in a situation with universal stakes, which is why, for example, she's offended by Quill wanting to still profit from the Power Stone rather than just being heroic and honorable and handing it to the Novas.

        Endgame Gamora (Endgamora?) in Guardians3 got roped into a high risk situation with personal stakes that didn't involve her, or a greater good. It was just about saving a friend of her sister and of the guy who keeps pestering her about a past romance that she didn't have. And like someone said, she's been hanging out with Ravagers since Endgame, plus whatever effect it may have on her to know that she's living in a different universe from her own and that she can never go back, and that her real sister is dead.

        So she's more of an butthole because, for one, she's not fighting for a universally greater cause, and for another, her circumstances have made her more of an butthole. Which is the exact opposite of the experiences our Gamora had.

        Like I said, it's a cope, but if you squint, you can kinda see it.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          See I'm actually fine with all these takes, it's just seriously weirds me out instead of actually acknowledging them Gunn just takes the shallowest possible "this is old Gamora, she is not new Gamora" approach with her. So she comes across as a pissy bully instead of someone with serious baggage of her own right up until the end of the movie, where presumably due to editorially mandated fiat she's suddenly all smiley and happy with the crew.

          That was weird to me too, other than the photograph she never ever shows a sign of bonding with the others until the very end. She even wanted to walk away from the final fight unlike the other Guardians.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Gamora doesn't really display any heroic qualities until they see what the stone does on Knowhere

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >So I guess...the Ravagers are OK with Gamora bullying them
        I'd be okay with her bullying me too

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine fricking Nebula, you shove it in and your penis is instantly mangled by the spinning gears that were installed down there.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Well, Nebula, I'm running out of body parts to replace
        >Looks like I'll have to replace your vegana with a fleshlight
        >Don't worry, I made sure to get a top quality one, any of your future partners won't know the difference, it's supposed to be incredibly realistic
        >Ah, so you lost again? Time for a boob job.
        >Do you want DD's or DDD's?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Well, Nebs, it's come to this
          >I'm sending you and your sister on an important mission
          >There's not much left to replace at this point, so if you fail, I'm gonna modify whatever it is in your body that controls your metabolism.
          >Fail me this time, and you'll be skinny forever.
          >What's the mission? Go help Ronan get that Orb thing.

          And that's why she's kinda fat now. Thanos didn't get the chance to prevent it.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's weirdly hot and cute at the same time.
            >Nebula is just hanging out on the ship
            >Lifts up her shirt and squeezes her belly fat
            Nebula: I'm not sure why this is happening
            Starlord: Well, without having to be Thanos' murder Barbie all the time, plus eating donuts constantly, you're gaining weight
            Nebula:... you can GAIN weight?!

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >BREAD MAKES YOU FAT?!

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >pan over to Drax eating a whole loaf by himself
                Drax: Must be a female thing.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >you have failed me for the last time, Nebula
          >replace her vegana with a penis

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Nebula, with great power comes great responsibility
          >You have lost yet another fight to Nebula, meaning the responsibility falls to me to increase your power. You were, as I recall, defeated from behind this time
          >So after completing your mission with Ronan, I have decided to add extra supportive padding to your ass
          >Knowing how clumsy you are, every part of your body must be well reinforced
          >Do not fail me again or I will give you ripped abs and thick thighs too

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    what would you rather her say the exact opposite?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      YAS QUEEN SLAY

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    yeah, agreed. That one line stuck with me as being a real stretch, especially not long after talking about her eyes being ripped out as a form of torture

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    A lot of post-Endgame content is like that.

    >The TVA in the Loki series having drawers full of Infinity Stones and bragging about taking down Titans, gets thrashed by Girl Loki
    >The Illuminati and their magic do-anything book that apparently killed Thanos with his own glaive weapon, immediately demolished by Wanda before they can get the book again
    >Kang hyped up as this world-conquering menace, literally loses a fight with ants AND a fistfight with Ant-Man
    >The entire Omnipotence City scene where Zeus strips Thor, brags about the orgies they have there and literally gets oneshot by Thor the moment he's sick of his shit
    >Eternals (yes I did watch the movie, yes I did regret) mentioning they have infinite cosmic energy, while struggling to bring down big alien lizard monster Deviants I got the impression that the Avengers 2 Iron Man suit could have made short work of

    They should really stick to animation for the continuations. Say what you like about What If? but Evil Strange and Ultron-Vision felt like actual no-bullshit cosmic threats

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      ?
      None are those are connected to what OP is saying.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's really odd how the MCU seems to acknowledge that Thanos was the absolute peak of their storytelling but also can't help but try and make him seem lesser to prop up the new guy. The whole series just feels undead post-Endgame because it clearly should've ended but there's still 20 more shows and movies on the way.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Preach it.

        >"The TVA's so badass it has drawers full of Infinity Stones and a Thanoscopter in the back room!"
        >"The Illuminati has a magic book that can kill Thanos with his own glaive!"
        >"What the HE did to Rocket? Worse than what Thanos did to Nebula!"
        >"Here's Ultron-Vision, he can bisect Thanos with a laser even though we also asserted those space-cutting portals Dr. Strange makes can't cut Thanos quickly enough!"
        >"Zombie Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet!"

        The weirdest part is outside the What If? series, all the new villains genuinely feel weaker than Thanos. I'm not sure but I feel like someone in-universe has said Kang is worse than Thanos, despite the fact that the woman who actually met him still hadn't told anyone about him after Endgame, he gets bodied by ants, he somehow doesn't instantly kill Ant-Man in a fistfight and after supposedly winning over numerous alternate Avengers he has no fricking counter to Ant-Man in general. Or how the TVA is mogged by Loki's inexplicably more powerful female counterpart.

        The one from ragnarok also had the gems

        Fake gems? What the frick was Odin thinking in a universe where even Earth's primitive technology can detect and harness Infinity Stone radiation?

        That has more to do with Thor 1 trying to pull the whole "hur dur, they're aliens. Isn't that grounded and more realistic than gods? Who could believe gods exist?" that the comics had tried to do around that time. Plus, Americans hadn't fully gotten out of their "American FRICK YEAH" stage, so having a movie about an actual Capital G GOD would have hurt box-office sales.

        I still have a hard time believing American minds would break from seeing pagan gods on TV, I mean I don't remember anyone getting up in arms about Clash/Wrath of the Titans.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Americans have been conditioned to consider the Greek Gods as fairy tale gods; a lot of people don't realize people actually prayed to or worshiped them. Plus, the gods are typically treated as dicks and antagonists in the Titans movies.
          Cap's line about "There's only one God and he doesn't dress like that" literally got applause in theaters when The Avengers first came out. They needed to de-fang his divinity before people got the impression that you're literally cheering on another Gods.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >>The TVA in the Loki series having drawers full of Infinity Stones

      That's the best scene in phase 4 you dolt

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    You just don't get it because you watched other movies instead of just Gunn's trilogy which is the only canon

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >the only canon
      >In Guardians 2, Ego's whole motivation is that he thinks he's the only Celestial in existence
      >Subsequent movies reveal that not only are Celestials active enough throughout the universe that one literally black hole-portals to Earth, but two are just hanging out in Omnipotence City watching the god-orgies
      Lmao, apparently Ego was the smelly moronic kid of the Celestials nobody wanted to go near.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        there are only 3 movies that are canon which are James Gunn's Guardians movies but also James Gunn's first Guardians movies isn't canon because Nova Corps apparently knew everything about Rocket already despite the fact that no one knew anything until Guardians 3 also the second Guardians movie isn't canon because those holographic space suits no longer exist.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          The evolutionaries were dealing with the Bat Lives Matter riots on Counter-Earth at the time
          Also
          >Lyla

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          The intel the Novas had may have come from stuff Rocket had said in moments of anger, or when drunk, or whatever. He did lash out at one point in GOTG1, when drunk and arguing with Drax, saying "I didn't ask to be made and taken apart and put together over and over", or something to that effect.

          So bits of his past may be on record, directly from him, especially considering how many times he's been in prison and escaped.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Lylla survived, met up with Rocket and then he got her killed again duh!

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's a simple case of Gunn forgot.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I think we need a word for this sort of thing.

          Like scenarios where people making an adaptation never thought they'd get the chance to explore a concept or characer so they included it as an easter egg.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Things established as worldbuilding or easter eggs or throwaway details, previous to a retcon?

            I'll call them Pretcons.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Kinda like the infinity gauntlet with stones in the old thor movie?

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              They explain in Thor 3 that it's fake... though how you could fake something that never existed before is another question entirely

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Red herring feels like it fits somewhat, but I get you

            Kinda like the infinity gauntlet with stones in the old thor movie?

            They explain in Thor 3 that it's fake... though how you could fake something that never existed before is another question entirely

            That was so weird.

            >Thanos has supposedly been around for a fraction of the time Odin has been. He's old, but not literally thousands of years old as far as I can tell
            >In all that time nobody else has ever thought of making an Infinity Gauntlet
            >Apparently Thanos just walked up to the dwarfs and commissioned/blackmailed them into building the thing. That's it.
            So I guess you're supposed to believe Odin heard about this young up and coming eggplant conqueror in the time period when Asgard was demilitarised to the degree that random Asgardian soldiers couldn't body those Kurze stone-amped dark elves that can swat aside Mjolnir anymore and everyone seems to have misplaced their giant Hulk-rending giant wolves, and decided he needed to stay hip with the kids by obtaining a new superweapon.

            WHICH STILL MAKES NO FRICKING SENSE because if Grungnir is anywhere near as powerful as Stormbreaker, then it's reputation alone should dwarf the Gauntlet's until it's completed. Though to be fair who's to say it is? According to Thor weaker beings would have their minds and bodies torn asunder from holding Stormbreaker but the only people we ever see hefting it are Thor, people with Thor's power and stupidly OP frickers like Necrosword-empowered Gorr (don't even get me started on what THE Necrosword has to do with Hela's Necroswords) or Thanos who can touch Infinity Stones barehanded and get away with a rash. Assuming Thor wasn't bullshitting I have to question how Loki, a guy who's done nothing but get his ass kicked since Avengers 1, was apparently hefting it just fine in Thor 1.

            God I hate being autistic this shit will never stop bothering me

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              The one from ragnarok also had the gems

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I can at a stretch think she meant
        >This is worse than it was for me because he was so much more vulnerable and young
        But you can absolutely phrase what happened to her to sound worse than what happened to Rocket if you want to.
        [...]
        Eternals fricks everything up. And now the movies are all ignoring the fricking immense celestial head and hand sticking out of the ocean lol

        Did everyone just forget that there was a celestial in the first GOTG?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah but they've clearly retconned that by now

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Retconned how?

            People forgot a lot of things from the first Guardians movie

            People also forgot a lot from the second Guardians movie

            What? The space suits? They were always a blatant case of plot convenience.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Ego is counted as a Celestial. They're energy beings, not dudes in armor.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Honestly, I figured that they weren't ever going to GET to Celestials, so seeing on in GotG1 was just another Easter Egg on par with them showing Cosmo and Howard the Duck. And then with them retconning Ego into one, I figured that ALL of the Cosmic heavyhitters were just going to be call Celestials, and we'd never see the dudes in armour.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                The other Celestials are not just big dudes in armor.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >They were always a blatant case of plot convenience.
              They were also, you know, VITAL TO SURVIVING IN SPACE

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Frick are you yelling about you tard? I'm basically agreeing with you hence the plot conveniencd. Gunn made them up so Yondu would have a dramatic reason to bite it and then didn't include them because he wanted another space peril scene in 3. And also wanted the colorful space odyssey suits in that one scene I guess.

                It's kind of an autistic nitpick though, I mean do you really need a reason why they don't have them instead of just taking it at face value that they don't? Maybe the spacemart was out. Maybe they forgot to pick more up before they left for Counter earth. Maybe they left them on the spaceship that got blown up on counter earth. Maybe Quill had a hole in his pocket. Does it really matter?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >It's kind of an autistic nitpick though, I mean do you really need a reason why they don't have them instead of just taking it at face value that they don't? Maybe the spacemart was out. Maybe they forgot to pick more up before they left for Counter earth. Maybe they left them on the spaceship that got blown up on counter earth. Maybe Quill had a hole in his pocket. Does it really matter?
                >wondering why people who live in space don't have a way to survive in space is an autistic nitpick
                are you actually this fricking moronic or are you getting paid to pretend to be?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                They have ways to have survive in space you moron, he just didn't have one in that scene. Now answer the fricking question, are you really so autistic that you need Chris Pratt to yell "Oh no, I forgot my space suit in my other pants!" to accept that he doesn't have a ducking spacesuit on hand?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                not just a moron but a phoneposting moron

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not just autistic but a candyass roodypoo

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                he'll be fine

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          People forgot a lot of things from the first Guardians movie

          People also forgot a lot from the second Guardians movie

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Reminds me of how everyone across the galaxy all at once ditched their limitless ammo in Mass Effect because MUH HEAT SINKS

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Being a reasonable person I just...assumed the Collector's recording was from the distant past, and at the time Ego was born there were no LIVING Celestials active in the universe.

          But nope. Not only are there living Celestials very active in the univers, not only has one recently visited Earth, not only do they all use giant robot bodies instead of being a dumb helpless planet but there's two chilling in Omnipotence City.

          Americans have been conditioned to consider the Greek Gods as fairy tale gods; a lot of people don't realize people actually prayed to or worshiped them. Plus, the gods are typically treated as dicks and antagonists in the Titans movies.
          Cap's line about "There's only one God and he doesn't dress like that" literally got applause in theaters when The Avengers first came out. They needed to de-fang his divinity before people got the impression that you're literally cheering on another Gods.

          I take your point, but I feel that Norse Gods are treated pretty similarly. Or am I out of touch for thinking anyone still remembers the second Mask movie? Probably, but still like-I want to argue the Aesir as presented in Thor 1 work fine as fairy tale gods without the nonsense technobabble explanation.

          Like whatever your religious believes you can enjoy Anthony Hopkins' HNARAGHGH while acknowledging the character has anger management issues and is fallible in his treatment of his sons, he's not depicted as an infallible YHWH type.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >and at the time Ego was born there were no LIVING Celestials active in the universe
            That's a pretty big assumption to make, movie Ego was always obviously a very different case even if you don't know anything about the comic version of him or the comic Celestials. I mean when he says he's a celestial everybody pretty much takes it in stride other than Quill's surprise that he is one.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I like the movie a lot but I really did not like that line, especially given

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine poking around at her brain and watching her become a cute moron right before your eyes.

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine being a practically newborn Racoon and then being taken ripped apart, rebuild, cut open stuff taken out stuff taken in and repeating this entire process till you are a racoon in only the most superficial elements. All of this was done at once with nothing to numb the pain.
    Gamora had her entire life to get used to having robot parts replace her body since it was bit by bit.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I can at a stretch think she meant
      >This is worse than it was for me because he was so much more vulnerable and young
      But you can absolutely phrase what happened to her to sound worse than what happened to Rocket if you want to.

      >the only canon
      >In Guardians 2, Ego's whole motivation is that he thinks he's the only Celestial in existence
      >Subsequent movies reveal that not only are Celestials active enough throughout the universe that one literally black hole-portals to Earth, but two are just hanging out in Omnipotence City watching the god-orgies
      Lmao, apparently Ego was the smelly moronic kid of the Celestials nobody wanted to go near.

      Eternals fricks everything up. And now the movies are all ignoring the fricking immense celestial head and hand sticking out of the ocean lol

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Eternals fricks everything up
        It's hilarious we only got Eros after Thanos' first onscreen death. Thor 3 and 4 still bother me more somehow.

        >Thor 1
        >Odin himself says Asgardians aren't gods, have a finite lifespan, are mostly using technology/magic so advanced they're the same thing

        >Thor 3/4
        >Everyone acts like gods are truly, genuinely immortal and unambiguously divine
        >Things like Loki turning into a snake are casually brought up even though he never does this onscreen, and is generally a bad joke when it comes to magic compared to Dr. Strange (who is canonically NOT the Sorcerer Supreme in the MCU)
        >All of Asgard is heavily nerfed by Odin. Mjolnir, the same thing that smacked around Ultron and smashed Malekith who had a fricking Infinity Stone merged into him at the time, is casually fodderised by the actual heir of Asgard.
        >The actual superweapons of Asgard like Stormbreaker can compete with the fricking completed Infinity Gauntlet's blasts
        >THOR COULD SHARE HIS POWERS ALL ALONG

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >THOR COULD SHARE HIS POWERS ALL ALONG

          He used Zeus' lightning to do that, though.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Really

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          That has more to do with Thor 1 trying to pull the whole "hur dur, they're aliens. Isn't that grounded and more realistic than gods? Who could believe gods exist?" that the comics had tried to do around that time. Plus, Americans hadn't fully gotten out of their "American FRICK YEAH" stage, so having a movie about an actual Capital G GOD would have hurt box-office sales.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I figure its most of what said, Nebula was turned into a cyborg but she was always a sentient creature and presumably didn't loose herself in the process. Rocket got turned into a furry from a normal racoon.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      imagine living on earth for years and never once, not even out of curiosity, looking up what a raccoon looked like.

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >makes him super intelligent
    >gives him a life beyond scrabbling around for berries or whatever in a wood somewhere
    what a monster! i'd sign up for the high evolutionary's expertise if i could

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Man has always assumed that he is more intelligent than raccoons because he has achieved so much--the wheel, New York, wars and so on -- while all the raccoons had ever done was muck about in the woods having a good time. But, conversely, the raccoons had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man -- for precisely the same reasons

  8. 11 months ago
    AccelΔX

    Thanos had excuses. The High Evolutionary had next to frick all

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Thanos had excuses
      Does that make him better, though?
      Does it really?

      Eh, I actually thought your two problems there cancelled each other out. She was more aggressive and angry BECAUSE she'd been with the ravagers instead of the Guardians and that's more their mode. And yeah, I totally buy that the ravagers have good camaraderie with tough aggressive leader figures

      OH, BY THE WAY since we're talking about Ravager morality let's not discount the What If? timeline where T'challa becomes a Ravager and apparently unlocks fricking Mass Effect-style paragon dialogue options that let him convince Thanos to end his whole crusade (but...not bring the Black Order with him for some reason. In fact they're enemies now, even though the Black Order's whole characterisation is being fanatically loyal to Thanos), is a better leader than Quill ever was and somehow convinced Nebula to start growing hair.

      >Anon shut the frick up, we both know that What If? only exists to mourn Chadwick
      But it DOES exist and it IS canon that somehow, T'challa not only thrives under Ravager adoptive parentts but magically transcends nearly all the anger issues he had in his intro in Cap 3, and instead of being a stoic, barely restrained angry vigilante is the space Chad that Peter Quill wishes he was.

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    whenever i see a thread like this i can only imagine the op in question spotting a hair on his toast before devolving into a bawling, sobbing rage that ruins his entire week

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >bro just turn your brain off and enjoy the cute bunny

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can kind of see the justification.
    From what little we know of MCU Nebula she had a normal childhood at least before getting taken in by Thanos. Rocket didn't.
    Nebula's cybernetics were put in when she lost fights to Gamora as punishment, but with the implication that they'd improve her. Rocket's were put in for the science lulz.
    Thanos, in his own fricked up way, still valued Nebula. Rocket was pretty explicitly meant to be discarded and it's only really dumb luck/chance that he wasn't.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Thanos, in his own fricked up way, still valued Nebula
      I think this is what they were getting at, yeah. It's still a really hamfisted, awkward line. But at the start of Endgame you see Thanos is so pissed nobody likes him, he's genuinely grateful that Nebula is the ONE person standing up for him in any way to the other Avengers. Even past Thanos learns from this to the extent he immediately starts treating Nebula better.

      He's fricked in the head and Nebula will always be his favourite because he loves bloodshed and she's the bloodiest, but like you said on some level he does want Nebula to better herself. Meanwhile the HE treated Rocket like a favoured pet after all the trauma, but the moment Rocket corrected him he loses his mind seething over a raccoon figuring out something he couldn't.

      Man has always assumed that he is more intelligent than raccoons because he has achieved so much--the wheel, New York, wars and so on -- while all the raccoons had ever done was muck about in the woods having a good time. But, conversely, the raccoons had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man -- for precisely the same reasons

      Behold: A battle of wits for the ages

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lots of forced lines.
    Not to mention magical wound recoveries
    It is the worst of the three movies

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Frost Giants tried to conquer Earth, a world that had nothing to do with most of Asgard for it's history until the modern era
    >Dark Elves literally wanted to return the universe to darkness
    Thor 3 tries to make a big deal about Asgard's dark past, but honestly I have to wonder how justified Odin was. I mean if Odin was still active, Thanos wouldn't even be a threat without the gauntlet.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'd say Odin's mercy makes more sense if he was just ambitious and bloodthirsty in the beginning and realized his folly, making it easier for him to pity the Ice Giants getting uppity vs his Sons' mentality of "why don't we just beat these blue fricks into slushie?"

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah but here's the thing.
        The frost giants were invading EARTH, which at the time was a backwater that was no threat to anyone. I'm just saying, for a bloodthirsty conqueror it's rather generous of him to rescue a bunch of primitives that can't even comprehend space travel. Why didn't he subjugate Earth too if he was that vile?

        >THOR COULD SHARE HIS POWERS ALL ALONG

        He used Zeus' lightning to do that, though.

        They never explained shit about what the bolt can or can't do other than let Blackyrie not instantly die in combat with Gorr, without any further explanation it just seems like Thor can hand out lightning like candy

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's a cheap narrative device to make the new villain look more intimidating/powerful, etc.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      The old 9/11 times a thousand

  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Movie felt rushed and cobbled together, but that hallway fight scene was pretty cool.
    Rare use of Beastie Boys too.

  15. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Rocket was also a baby raccoon being tortured.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      And Nebula was kept, and given missions, Rocket was simply intended for incineration, until he proved useful enough for dissection.

  16. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    And even if it isn't untrue, it'll still be ranking suffering like it's some kind of competition.

  17. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    This the moron containment thread? Cool.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nope, loud house general is down the block.

  18. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah this stuck out, I think it doesn't help that she is a bad actor. When she was telling the audience Cosmo's name it felt forced af

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >When she was telling the audience Cosmo's name it felt forced af
      I don't remember this scene.

  19. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Probably. But maybe she was just being nice. She's always talking about how Thanos mutilated her so stepping off that horse might have been her showing sympathy.

    Besides, we dont know. Thanos may have forced her into surgery over and over again based on if she was beaten by Gamora but he used top shelf cybernetics! Rocket's was some homespun crap.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Rocket's was some homespun crap.
      He also had his skull cut open, his legs straightened from their digitigrade position, his arms moved up to make shoulders, and probably some spinal configurement all as a baby.

      It's basically like if someone turned a human into a quadruped.

  20. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >a strong female character displaying some kind of kindness and genuine emphaty toward a dying male cis friend in 2023
    truly the most unrealistic part of the movie.

  21. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    She said that while watching a little baby have its brain cut into, without anesthesia. That’s pretty bad.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cutting into the brain was the least painful part, it has no pain receptors in itself.
      The part that would've hurt real bad was cutting the skull and the whole rearranging bones and muscles bit.

  22. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think Nebula and Quill should have sloppy drunken sex that both deny ever happened

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      The movie was very weird about almost but not quite shipping them with all the old married couple-like moments. Feels almost like it was testing the waters to see how test audiences would respond to Peter hooking up with Nebula.

      ?
      None are those are connected to what OP is saying.

      >forced and untrue

      >So I guess...the Ravagers are OK with Gamora bullying them
      I'd be okay with her bullying me too

      Femdom is not a mainstream fetish outside of Cinemaphile

  23. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Watching MCU
    >Exepecting something that isn't some degrees of shit
    That was your mistake.

  24. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    That actually makes perfect sense. While she hates what was done to her, she was constantly put back together after her defeats, with the purpose of making her more effective. Rocket was just mad doctors cramming random shit into a raccoon and seeing what happened. They also had a, "Jam it in until it fits," work ethic which Thanos would not have approved. He wanted quality work, with purpose. Shitty purpose, true, but purpose nonetheless.

  25. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    She has empathy and loves her friends. Watching Rocket, who she cares about enough that she starts crying when she hears he's survived, be tortured is worse for her than going through torture herself.

  26. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Also reminder that the gods know Celestials are a thing, but apparently have decided NOT to tell the rest of the galaxy about their whole planet-shattering life cycle. And that Eros is canon, even if he is Thanos' adopted brother rather than actual brother, and seems to be either operating indepedently or at least has a lot more leeway from his Celestial masters than the Eternals stationed on Earth do.

    Thanos could have divided the Avengers and maybe garnered more support from the galaxy just by mentioning if he didn't halve the population, a Celestial would burst out of the planet killing all life on it. Conveniently the directors have left themselves an out for that by asserting that in the MCU Thanos' madness manifests as a need for gratitude and validation, and an urge to make everyone acknowledge he was right and his solution should have been implemented on Titan so they can say some stupid shit like "it genuinely didn't cross his mind because it was so obvious to him" or "he wants them to support him for the 'right' reasons because he crazy". But you'd think with an existential threat that severe and with him generally being quite tactically sound he'd see the wisdom of telling people about Earth being a space egg.

  27. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Zoe Zaldana is so ugly she looks like a frog alien.

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