they'll be very serialized without an overarching villain for a while, and then bring up someone random either from the past, or write a new villain that was relevant to rick's past in some way (but has never been mentioned before, maybe hinted at a long time ago but not explicitly). Same thing they've done for every villain/villainous organization
Evil Morty seems content living alone
Unless they completely change his motivations why would he be the next villain? If anything he’ll sometimes show up like he did for this episode and be Ricks true Morty
Though our Morty might also be great seeing as he’s Rick Primes grandkid
>raising ECHOES of my daughter
What did rick prime mean by this. Does that mean every universe where the Smiths are a family is actually a variation of the original universe where Prime is from, where he raised Beth until he decided to frick off.
Does that mean the parmesian universe AND the universe that Rick moved to after the Cronenberg incident are technically C-137-C and C-137-D or something? With the multiverse being a thing, are there also actual infinite variations of Rick Prime himself? So there are million of universes where C-137 faced off against Prime in that planet of his, or is that the only planet built by Prime in the entire multiverse?
That gets me thinking, was there only one Citadel of Ricks in the entire multiverse or several? Also did Diane really die in all conceivable universes? Damn did they really think any of this through?
>raising ECHOES of my daughter
I think he just said that to be cool.
However it's interesting that Prime said only he and C137 actually invented portal travel. If Prime is something akin to a first mover then maybe he's right in just calling other Dianes echoes.
ECHOES of my daughter >What did rick prime mean by this.
It's very easy. Rick literally isn't living with Beth Prime, but he did replace her with an essentially identical variation after the Cronenberg shitshow and then cloned her.
Pretty much this: Dead Wife Rick fricked up Prime Rick's Earth, and the Rick Citadel finished the job. The Former took everything away from the latter without even knowing it.
The whole point of the "central finite curve" is that it was specifically a functionally finite group of universes were:
1.) Rick is the smartest person in the universe
2.) Rick would be down to form a boy's club of himself
3.) Rick father's Beth, who then specifically gives birth to Morty
In a truly infinite multiverse would literally have infinite variations of absolutely everything. But no-one likes to look at how far the gulf between Achilles and the Turtle goes, so even though Evil Morty can go outside the central finite curve, they'll never bring up that another Rick Prime can just show up and keep fricking with our Rick.
This is why I hate the multiverse. It makes things too repetitive and complicated. Sure it's fun when you write stories about exploring other realities. But have the protagonist interact with other versions of himself is just played out and boring. It can work in some cases. But you need a really good story, helmed by competent writers. Otherwise meeting your alternate self gets old very quick.
Personally I'm surprised that they didn't do a 'young rick' type episode. Where we see a younger rick(doesn't have to be our rick) exploring portal travel and the multiverse. When it's still shiny and new, so the audeince can wonder and awe with him.
except he doesn't. Rick Prime's original universe was Cronenberg Universe, which our Rick abandoned without a thought after fricking it up despite apparently waiting for his "nemesis" there for years because all of this plot was made up as they went and makes no fricking sense.
>[living] there for years
Rick had only been living with them for a year in season 1. >because all of this plot was made up as they went and makes no fricking sense.
True.
Except that there is no Rick Prime in the first place. How do you select which Rick is Prime? Is it temporal priority? There are an infinite number of temporally identical universes so there isnt one which is prior. Is it that others are deviations of the first? How are they deviations, what makes the first more authentic than the other ones? Is it inventing the portal gun? Supposedly an infinite number of Ricks invented the portal gun simultaneously, did one just grab a bunch of the ones who didnt and locked them up in the finite curve? Ok, but that would mean that there are still an infinite number of variations of the finite curve and no way to tell which ones are in this specific finite curve and which ones are not. And also, there should be an infinite number of Ricks who escaped the finite curve as well.
All of this is to say that the idea of anything prime in a multiverse is moronic.
Rick Prime was actually the only one that invented portal travel without getting it from another Rick (aside from main Rick who invented it after Rick Prime used it to kill his family), that's why they call him "Rick Prime", because he's the one that propagated portal tech to all the other Ricks.
But that is not true in an actual multiverse. Assuming modal realism, anything possible is true in an alternate world, so, there are an infinite number of Ricks who invented the portal gun. All we need is an instance where Rick could have done something else to generate a world in which everything is identical except for that one thing. When Rick Prime was born, did he open his eyes at one time or a second earlier? If the latter is possible then there is a world in which everything is the same except for that minute detail. So, we have another Rick that invented portal technology.
That's clearly not how universes work in Rick and Morty though, otherwise you'd get multiverse scale disruptions daily from the infinite amount of insane scientists throwing stuff at it.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Isnt that what is happening constantly? Also, given that the multiverse is infinite, it doesnt mean that all possible worlds are shit. If its possible for universes to not be involved in the chaos then those exist. When the show uses the sentence 'infinite number of realities' I take it at its word.
there are no infinite multiverses and they clearly esstablished that, all the available multiverses are all set under the rick experiment, they can only teleport to universes where rick is a established constant.
Evil morty literally breaks out of those and starts traveling in universes outside of that pocket, but in the universes where theres a top rick, all his wives are dead.
6 months ago
Anonymous
The fact that there are an infinite number of alternate realities is explicitly mentioned countless times in the show.
6 months ago
Anonymous
and its established in the citadel destruction that those "infinite" all share the same trait that they are the ones where the ricks got access to dimension travel.
The last episode had portions outside of those and there were other people inventing dimension travel.
The "inifnite" universes the ricks established to travel all have similar traits so he never crosses people as dangerous as him, its a giant crib
there are no infinite multiverses and they clearly esstablished that, all the available multiverses are all set under the rick experiment, they can only teleport to universes where rick is a established constant.
Evil morty literally breaks out of those and starts traveling in universes outside of that pocket, but in the universes where theres a top rick, all his wives are dead.
This explanation makes the most sense to me but I still feel as though the show itself has done little to actually state or establish it for viewers
its straight up explained by the evil morty, its his yellow portal things, they arent limited. this is also viewed in his latest episode with th euniverses he travels being surreal
6 months ago
Anonymous
Literally explained by or possible to infer from?
6 months ago
Anonymous
i googled an episode analysis for you that puts it better than i would
"You see, Rick was either the first one or one of the first Ricks to have realized the potential in having Morty as an adventure partner, and soon enough other Ricks started wanting a Morty of their own, so they started manipulating infinite Beths to have sex with infinite Jerrys to produce infinite Mortys, and when that wasn't enough, they started cloning them inside the Citadel, making them both companions and their work force to maintain a wall that cordons off all the universes where Rick isn't the smartest man in existence, or as Morty calls it, an "infinite crib built around an infinite fricking baby."
Evil Morty's plan has been to break the Rick and Morty dynamic once and for all, destroy the wall, and go to a universe where Rick isn't the smartest man, something that makes perfect sense and somehow had never seemed like a possibility before."
6 months ago
Anonymous
considering how shit the world is outside of that crib then goo goo gaa gaa I wouldn't want out
6 months ago
Anonymous
>episode analysis
I get that this is how the central finite curve works and that this has been established but your earlier point about now this connects with Rick Prime is something I haven’t seen addressed by the show directly to my knowledge. Anyway, I like it and think it makes the most sense of the mental gymnastics we’re asked to pull by the writers to make this make sense.
6 months ago
Anonymous
i think of it as two infinite pools , both are infinite but one is infinite with more possibilities than the others.
prime or "our" rick have established perimeters that keep them within universes where they are the smartest thing available, which explains why they never go to a universe where jerry is a super genius that surpasses rick, for instance.
Dan Harmon gets fired for supporting Palestine
The twitter troony troupe of writers leave too
Production moves to Australia
The show is drawn in Flash frame-by-frame
Justin reappears not as Aussie R&M but as Mr. Poopy Dingo
Jannies and Feminists seethe
The show finally reaches its full potential.
>MORTY >OI TURNED MAH SHIT SHOW INTO A GOOD SHOW MORTY >GET IN THE FACKIN CAAAAH >>HE DOESN'T WANT TO GO ON ANYMORE ADULT SWIM ADVENTURES >>oh my god, I'm, like, calling the police. >GET IN THE FACKIN CAAAAAAAAH MORTYYYY!!
Finding that there's a Diane left. Rick Prime is a liar, and knowing a Rick, he'd have one locked away somewhere. Because what's better than depriving all of the Ricks their wives? Being the only Rick to have a Diane, and not care about her
What was the point of prime Rick? Seasons of buildup only to have ultra mary sue evil morty just beat the guy completely unceremoniously with completely forced stakes and a machine we just find out exists. The show is clearly out of ideas. They even had to retcon evil morty leaving the timeline for this. He is just back, they can go after him. Why was it such a big effort to leave the finite curve in the first place if it was so easy to come back?
>Why was it such a big effort to leave the finite curve in the first place if it was so easy to come back?
He destroyed the CFC didn't he? It's why Rick's portal gun didn't work for a while.
The episode still showed visuals of the curve, and Evil Morty being annoyed that Rick was "fracking" it.
I think all he did was blow a rift in it in order to leave, and the rift was why stuff didn't work for a bit until it got fixed.
As to how he got back in though, idk. Yellow portals special or its because he originates from the CFC that it lets him back in.
First of all Evil Morty had to cheat multiple times with the 2v1, the mind reading device and would've lost regardless if he hadn't switched clothes with our Morty.
second, my problem with previous seasons was them dragging things out over multiple episodes across multiple seasons, I'm glad that it's finally fricking over so we can move on to what Rick wants to do next.
>First of all Evil Morty had to cheat multiple times with the 2v1, the mind reading device and would've lost regardless if he hadn't switched clothes with our Morty.
You call it cheating but evil Morty beat a fully teched up rick with a couple of tools and apparently effortlessly. He sustained no injuries and seemed almost bored doing it. Evil Morty essentially outsmarted and beat the smartest Rick, who btw is the smartest being in the universe, without breaking a sweat.
Also, you morons do realize that rick prime isnt gone right? Narratively speaking, for a big bad guy like this you have to follow him as the pov character in his backstory first for there to be an actual end to him. like what happened this episode with evil morty. Evil morty could die now. But bet my dime on it, Rick prime is coming back.
It just doesnt make authorial sense. Its a bait death of some kind.
That would certainly fix things from a narrative standpoint, but it would still make the episode worthless and a kick in the ribs to Rick.
I do think writers want evil morty to be some sort of comeuppance to Rick. So far, this season has been a lets kick Rick the show. Which, while warranted, its the other bad extreme to the super mary sue Rick of seasons 3-5.
I mean, there is the Kanon Killing Kannon negga-mort has, the knowledge that mort-noire can pop in with the right contrivence, and Rick 137 now grappling with probably being the same mental type who did all this shit instead of having just a object to obsess over.
Again, my story senses just dont believe this is the end for Rick prime. It doesnt smell right.
Our Rick becomes new Rick Prime out of boredom induced insanity and this creates himself? Maybe he brings back Rick Prime because his life really has no meaning without the hunt?
Rick isn’t being put down, he’s healing and sometimes healing takes getting kicked by people who you were negative towards and having to move on without a clean goodbye. Look at Unity. Great, Rick gets help but Unity doesn’t owe him shit and can’t trust him. Further, look at Summer and Rick yelling at each other about Unity. Rick apologized… quietly, after the door slam, but Summer doesn’t have to accept that half-assed apology even if he really, really meant it.
If I had to guess, I'd say he's coming back this season. Season finale material. I can see the setup for it with what's been promoed already. At the very least his weird unexplained black goo is still in the mix.
because of how rick and morty focused this episode this was and how much they had to be expressive instead of just talk calmly, the voice acting was really grating. it can sometimes be passing when they are normal talking, but the different voice acters get really noticable when they get expressive.
>weird unexplained black goo
Eh, maybe, I think that might just be a weird handwavy one time episodic tech thing thats pretty common.
I like this kind of memeing, but it's inaccurate in this case. Harmon definitely did his harassment before Justin did.
>Also, you morons do realize that rick prime isnt gone right? Narratively speaking, for a big bad guy like this you have to follow him as the pov character in his backstory first for there to be an actual end to him. like what happened this episode with evil morty. Evil morty could die now. But bet my dime on it, Rick prime is coming back.
It just doesnt make authorial sense. Its a bait death of some kind.
Yeah, Rick totally kept him alive to torture him forever or something.
If anyone’s been sidelined so far this season, it’s Summer. Normally this wouldn’t be a problem for me since she’s my least favorite character, but I did like what they did with her last season. Gotron episode, too.
It'd be so easy to make Summer a good character, just dial back her c**ty Mary Sue tendencies and give her arc or something. She's a lot like Dr Wong in that she's clearly just one of the writer's stand-ins but they seemed to have abandoned that lately.
She's fine as Morty's butthole back up who is down for Rick's more devious, but is still highly upset by the horrible stuff that Morty is now kind of dead to.
classic rick and morty adventures. no not the good ones like in seasons 1 and 2, only fascists like them. i'm talking about the real hard hitters like beth and dr. wong rolling around in their period blood.
1. From the way Rick Prime was shown at the end of the 6 season, it could be concluded that he really quantumly multiplied himself in order to be everywhere, participate in all events across all worlds and at the same time not be afraid of being killed. I personally thought that Rick would try to find a way to bring Prime back into single body to kill him, perhaps meeting his quantum copies in different worlds and extracting bits of information. Instead, it was all just his decoys. The same as Rick had in the previous season. And the real Prime is just a material dude. A dude who, in fact, turned out to be no fundamentally different from any other fricked up Rick, and was shamefully humiliated IN A REGULAR FIGHT, without any cunning tricks or conditions, although he was presented as the most cunning Rick.
2. Prime's regeneration potential was not realized. Regeneration was not at all an obstacle to killing him, although we were shown an entire scene with the murder of Cronenberg Jerry to demonstrate this feature. Plus, Evil Morty's SUPER SHIELDS, with which he deflects Rick's shots, remain on throughout the entire episode, and Prime's shields, with which he also deflected Rick's shot, suddenly vanished to hell.
3. Morty is a relative of Prime. This wasn't used at all in the plot and did not have any significance for this confrontation. This line might as well not have existed at all, and nothing would have changed.
4. Prime’s motivation is not explained at all. Why he did all this, what he was going for, etc. I would even accept such a motivation that he, from realizing the entire scale and variability of the multiverse, went crazy and thought that nothing matters, so you can have fun and do any shit without getting attached to anything and without looking at the consequences. But he doesn't express this philosophy, doesn't try to convince Rick that “nothing is true, everything is permissible.” He just shouts out some silly insults and tries to stupidly tease him.
5. Rick's motivation for creating the Citadel remains unclear. Why did he do this, if before that he despised the other Ricks, and after that the Citadel was a place he hated? I assumed it was to trap Prime by limiting his movements to a finite set of worlds, but in the end it just wasn't explained as well.
6. Evil Morty, despite all the pretentious bullshit with the destruction of the Citadel and leaving the final curve, simply returns out of nowhere and for some reason begins to play his own game, eventually becoming the main antagonist again. A very strange script decision. He was perfectly taken out of the plot, his motivation was well written, and the attention was shifted to a new antagonist, no less interesting. Instead, they just dump the new, hyped-up villain as stupidly as possible and returning the old one, from whom attention has already shifted. Why the frick was it done? Plus, the backstory of Evil Morty turned out to be the most ordinary backstory of any other Morty, without any differences, so what caused his fierce hatred of Rick is not at all clear. Plus, his know-it-all nature and genius have already become somewhat annoying and, again, have not yet been substantiated in any way.
7. And most importantly: if it was in fact so easy to calculate Prime’s real location, literally in ten minutes, then what the frick has Rick been doing all this time since the start of his vendetta? In this episode, nothing fundamentally new is revealed that would suddenly help him reach Prime, he had to JUST keep hunting for Prime's decoys, JUST fall into that trap, steal the slime and discover Prime's location. Absolutely nothing different from what Rick did before to get revenge.
Worst thing about it is that evil Morty dropped in and explained something as fundamental as search filtering to Rick. But you are right, nothing Rick does here is built up on previous episodes to structure a search for prime Rick. There is nothing in this new episode that Rick couldnt have done before, and if there is, it is done offscreen and never explained. What is the point of such a massive buildup if there is no journey? Everything relevant to prime Rick ,except for his introduction into the story, happens in this particular episode. It is all just so forced and crammed together.
>Prime’s motivation is not explained at all. Why he did all this
To spite Rick, that's the main reason why he killed his family.
C-137 dared to reject Prime's gift of portal travel, so he killed C-137's family as a retaliation.
Only for it to backfire due to robbing everything from C-137, Prime just only set in motion events where C-137 would figure out portal travel out of sheer hatred, rage and spite so he could hunt down Prime and kill him for revenge.
None of that is explained or motivated in the show. Why would Rick prime even care that a random Rick didnt want his technology. If there are an infinite number of possible Ricks, then there are an infinite number of Ricks who didnt accept portal travel. None of this backstory and relevant motivations are touched on or shown in the actual episode. Prime Rick makes no mention whatsoever of the and just acts as baddy of the week.
Diane may be gone forever, but I do still hope the writers take the opportunity to show even a glimpse of how C-131 Beth grew up after her Rick walked out on her. Froopyland conveniently avoided any mention of how Diane fit into the picture.
Bretty good actually. I'm impressed by the overall quality of Rick's replacement considering the quick turnaround for the S7 redubs. Morty will always sound off, but I'm at peace with that. He's a growing boy and that awkwardness seems fitting.
His Futurama episode sucked ass, but I'm intrigued by the thought of him being put in charge of what's essentially the premiere of a whole new era for the show. Maybe he was just given poor material to work with on the former.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>a whole new era for the show
WDHMBT?
6 months ago
Anonymous
>everything he's written up to this point has been complete shit but maybe this time he'll turn out to be a comedy genius
he wishes he could write anything this funny
i can't believe gays like you actually exist, so willing to accept Roiland's replacement the guy 80% responsible for a show you are a raving fan of and you're making up excuses like "oh morty is going through puberty i-its fine"
>what do you think of the new VA?
I think Unmortricken sold me on Cardoni's Rick. He's not a perfect soundalike but he's close enough and has some acting chops that maybe Justin didn't. Belden's Morty sounds more inconsistent to me. Sometimes he's right on the money and other times way off—too high and squeaky with too many voice cracks. They've barely had any time to record so I can see it getting better over time, especially with the right vocal coach.
Cuz he's a good writer who worked his way up into being a part of popular franchises? Why are you so miserable?
I'm looking forward to this one. Could be any combination of anthology episode, Morty-focused, Blips and Chitz, and depressed Rick, all of which have my interest by themselves.
His Futurama episode sucked ass, but I'm intrigued by the thought of him being put in charge of what's essentially the premiere of a whole new era for the show. Maybe he was just given poor material to work with on the former.
>essentially the premiere of a whole new era for the show
Really gets the noggin joggin.
Wants to do good by people and fails as a result. He's a person who's not that moral who wants to be moral and his drive to do so is a frequent plot motivator
Please quit embarrassing yourself. Gene is a fricking joke, on his own AND within the context of his series. You're lucky to ever get an episode where he adds to the narrative or carries any actual weight for a change. The way he's been used for years now has been a disgrace. At least Morty's still interesting and has different sides to him that are explored by his writers.
He wasn't really someone with a plan. I imagine Jerry was primarily written back then by people who hated their dads and wanted someone to project that onto.
I think all the other characters are also just exhausted and mary-sued. Like wah wah no one cares that Beth has daddy issues or Rick is sad about diane or whatever.
Kinda like how Summer went from a generic teenage girl to being a regressed Morty, then went to a b***hy writer's insert and then back to being Morty #2. They exhausted everything they could do with either so now Summer and Jerry are adequate comedic relief.
At this point? Summer started out as coom bait. I think they've been trying to round off that edge of her to distance themselves from Justin, and if I'm right, we can expect them to double down on doing so now that they've actually gotten rid of him. I really really hope I'm wrong. We should get a better idea in the back half of this season; if an episode called fricking "Wet Kuat Amortican Summer" doesn't treat Summer (and her classmates) as at least kind of coombaity, then the show has become edgeless.
6 months ago
Anonymous
correction, Tricia is coom bait. Summer is Jerry in a red wig.
6 months ago
Anonymous
My man!
6 months ago
Anonymous
Practically all of the high school girls on the show are coom bait. Only exception coming to mind is Nancy, and for her I'm pretty sure for her it's just that the art style did her no favors. But you can't deny that was the intent with Summer from the start. Consider the very second episode of the show.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>can't deny
can and would
6 months ago
Anonymous
Shocking! People bear a resemblance to their family members, including ones of the opposite sex
6 months ago
Anonymous
thats an idea for an episode, jerry always wondered who it was like to have a vegana
6 months ago
Anonymous
correction, Tricia is coom bait. Summer is Jerry in a red wig.
>Jerry in a wig
You guys say that like it’s not a bonus.
6 months ago
Anonymous
thats an idea for an episode, jerry always wondered who it was like to have a vegana
Episode where Jerry has to take Jerry-To-Summer Disguise Pills as an emergency measure to protect his family, and after that immediate crisis has passed, he discovers he's addicted to them and starts using them recreationally. White Ricks
6 months ago
Anonymous
I fricking hate Justin. Summer getting most of the fanservice and being the most prominent female character on the show is what made r34 artists resort to drawing her because she's seen as the only option. I would hope Unity's return would help, but no one batted an eye at that episode. Seems Unmortricken is the only one to turn heads so far this season.
6 months ago
Anonymous
The Summer Rule 34 has been the glue holding the community together since the beginning.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, cuz people don't watch the show.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>worried enough to come back
Dumping her was stupid.
6 months ago
Anonymous
This. When will they introduce Wild Summer?
6 months ago
Anonymous
According to Prime Jerry, her and Prime Beth died off-screen. Unless they pull off some alternate universe stuff since it's possible that Prime universe wasn't the only one to get Cronenberged or do Council of Summers shenanigans that were teased in previews we might be out of luck with Wild/Feral/Savage Summer making her return.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>Wild/Feral/Savage Summer
I think 'Hermit Summer' or 'Summer Prime' work just fine.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Not sure Hermit Summer would work since Jerry Prime only became Hermit Jerry after Summer and Beth Prime. Summer Prime is a good designation but doesn't quite give her appearance justice.
The names for the alternate Ricks haven't been great with most of the community talking about Rick Prime as Evil Rick when Evil Rick was Evil Morty's Rick.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Literally every fan calls him 'Rick Prime.' That's always been made very apparent.
6 months ago
Anonymous
You picture just reminded me - now that the Rick Prime plot is apparently over, what did they mean by that? >Wow, are those all the places Rick Prime could be? >I wish, Morty. It's all the places he is.
6 months ago
Anonymous
What do you mean? It was the decoys. We literally saw Rick and Morty going through them with a machine.
6 months ago
Anonymous
But those wouldn't literally be him. If they were literally him, like, in a hivemind way, then there wouldn't necessarily be a "real" Rick Prime like the one that they were trying to sort through the decoys to get (indeed, that would be a kind of stupid design flaw on Rick Prime's part, like what we see in the episode where Evil Morty hacks away all of the backups). Indeed, if it was just decoys, and Rick just didn't know which one of them was the real one, then the answer to "Wow, are those all the places Rick Prime could be?" would be "Yes, Morty, right on the money for once"
6 months ago
Anonymous
>If they were literally him, like, in a hivemind way
They were him in a hivemind way. Did you miss last week's episode? They were finishing each other's sentences.
6 months ago
Anonymous
And when Evil Morty got ahold of Rick Prime he was able to "fry his backups" presumably killing them. It kind of tracks with Project Phoenix and the decoys; Rick Prime built better versions of both.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Is Pocket Mortys less shit now or is it still some unenjoyable cashgrab?
6 months ago
Anonymous
Summer not having the visible eye lashes like all the other female characters only draws attention to the Jerry resemblance which has both it's pros and cons.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Genuinely what is the purpose of the anime? I saw the intro a while back and it only left me with MORE questions.
6 months ago
Anonymous
We can only guess. Maybe they were trying to throw Justin a bone since he loves him some Anime.
It really isn't. The art team has since improved upon Roiland's art style, so Summer looks even shittier than she did at the start of the show. Tammy was always superior anyway. Stripperbreasts then made Summer completely pointless.
6 months ago
Anonymous
> so Summer looks even shittier than she did at the start of the show.
I feel like that's why they moved away from Jessica since her design gets mogged by the newer ones.
Initially he was charming because of his comedic simplicity and banality, like Marge Simpson.
As the show progressed and everyone started to become "Rickified", however, Jerry cemented himself as the best character by being:
A) the only one who would consistently stand up to and call out Rick even when Morty started to stop giving a shit
B) the sole optimist and genuinely well-intentioned member of the Smith family who just wanted to be a dad and husband
C) the only character who regularly got shat on and didn't have a mandate to be "cool" and "edgy", which made him more endearing
Then they started pairing him with Rick and realised that they absolutely love writing those characters together, so they made them less antagonistic towards one another. They stopped shitting on him so much and gave him more and more wins and they even had him get one over on Rick every so often, all while keeping him as the squeamish, milquetoast underdog he's always been.
TL;DR Jerry is simultaneously the most consistently written character and the one who has received the most growth and development without ever being forced into being cool like the other Smiths. And, as the show has gone to weirder, more seriualised places, he's become something of a glue holding the family together and an audience and writer surrogate for commenting on how fricked up everything is.
Being voiced by Chris Parnell doesn't hurt either.
This is a Bojack Horseman type scenario. "You got what you wanted, but life isn't a story. After your grand finale, you have to live the day after. And the one after that."
Prime Rick gets hyped up for two seasons. Ends up doing nothing but kill newly random introduced character for a gag, has no attachments to anything else, only serves as plot device to set up evil morty, a character that was essentially retconned back into the show. Writers are out of ideas.
Rewatched the season 5 finale for the first time in a long time today and a couple lines stood out to me this time around. >It's just that the battle for crows is never ending. >Huh, right. A little pointless then, right? ...That came out wrong, sounded judge-y.
>You've had a thousand adventures with these crows. When are you going to kill their big bad? >First off, the "will they kill they" is everything to my guys. And secondly, frick you for trying to undermine my happiness.
I know the writing in this show shouldn't be taken remotely seriously, but can't help but wonder if they're going anywhere with those ideas anyway.
I watched this a long time ago but out of context this dialogue makes me want to vomit
Like they don't sound like real people. This is just writers huffing their own farts. There is a way to do that kind of improv well (Brendon Small and Coach McGuirk) but this is just. surface level jabs. Like who the hell actually thinks this is funny. I've heard better lines from shitty fanfiction written by 12 year olds
The problem with the show now is that it has too much baggage. It has flip flopped so much with its narrative that even if they try to go back to episodic adventures, they would need to retcon a bunch of shit and even then, they have tried episodic formats before and it did not stick. I think we just have to settle with the fact that R&M will never be incredible and groundbreaking again. It will just have great episodes here and there but it will overall be formulaic and repetitive. You can only do the jaded genius learns lesson so many times. They have already tried shaking the status quo and that didnt stick, they tried shifting the character dynamics and that did not stick. They tried making the nackground characters more integral to the plot and that didnt stick. They tried adding Summer into the protagonist ensemble and that didnt stick. Nothing they tried sticks. WHat else can they do at this point that they have not tried before?
Make Rick and Morty into likable people and not jackasses, idk
I think at the very least they could have an arc where Rick learns to be nicer (without it being all cringe and about therapy and cringe #gurlpower). Maybe the following episodes can be smaller-scale arcs about villains or some shit while Morty tries to help Rick and they learn to get along better.
Do you really need any more than that? Rick and Morty is at its best when it keeps its characters simple.
>this fricking argument again
there's simple in a good way and simple in a bad way. Rick was simple as a fun alcoholic who was out of it in the first few episodes, now he's "simple" as a jaded butthole. the show's simple now but not enjoyable
>Make Rick and Morty into likable people and not jackasses
Making Rick nice would break his character. The core of Rick is that he is a jackass. At most, the lesson should be that he isnt the best ever but that should not come from evil Morty being a random mary sue. It should come from the wider universe having a range of people that eithe rival him or are smarter due to them being aliens outside of human understanding. Alternatively, you can just have characters that are better in other areas. The problem with the show is that it has conflated intelligence with succeeding or winning most of the time.
The other issue is that the whole Rick and Morty learn to play nice together has already been done, dicarded and done again.
They have to start worldbuilding and making that stick. But another problem is that people expect every episode to say something groundbreaking and smart when that is just not feasible.
He wasn't really that much of a jackass in season 1, at least up to rick potion #9.
6 months ago
Anonymous
eh, he kinda was. he did what he wanted and didnt care too much about others.
6 months ago
Anonymous
He was a jackass but he wasnt an butthole. Rick being a jackass to Morty is the whole foundation of the show. I really dont think they can meaningfully change the dynamic of Rick condescendingly explaining shit to Morty without turning the show into something else. Honestly, Rick's potion #9 broke the show. It was meant to be a nihilistic point about the replaceability of people by simply swapping universes, but it just made characters inconsequential. The show could, right now, kill both Rick and Morty and show a new universe in which the only difference is that Rick and Morty did not die. There are no stakes when there are an infinite number of replacements to keep the narrative going.
6 months ago
Anonymous
The whole point initially is that Rick can only do it a few times. RP9 made it seem like the dimensions they could easily hop to are few, and it would look suspicious if they did it too many times
Rick was just characterized a lot harsher from that point on. People point to moments like him comforting Morty after he almost gets raped, or him and simulation Morty having a playfight with the cpu chips as out of character, but it really isn't if you watch the first five episodes by themselves. He wasn't really even that mean to Morty at that point.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, Rick in the early episodes is clearly not a good person to let around your 14 year old son, but really he was just callous and deranged.
6 months ago
Anonymous
To me at least there's more of a fun value of him just being an inappropriate caretaker who does whatever rather than some Harmon-ified butthole with trauma who acts like an emo boy or the writer's personal feelings depending on the episode
The improv tone was also better than the marvelesque constant quips. it sucked even in the prime rick episode. like do we need to have morty making some dumb joke while rick is confronting the guy who killed his wife?
6 months ago
Anonymous
Evil morty is just there to make Rick look dumb, there is no other point to his character in the new episode and bringing him on in the first place is a retcon. Also, what is even the point of making prime Rick original morty's actual grandfather if there is nothing coming out of that?
6 months ago
Anonymous
He's also not the "smartest man in the universe" by that point, he frequently fricks up, hell even Rick Potion 9 is unimaginable in the current series cause it's based on the conclusion that Rick's a MAD scientist just kinda fricking around and screwing things up. The show lost its way when it started power scaling Rick into being a god so it could smell it's own farts better, and the people b***hing about Rick Prime going down like a scrub cause of hubris in this thread prove it. I want to see a vulnerable Rick and Morty going forwards, I want to see them stumble and fail, and I'd like to see Rick being wrong more offten.
6 months ago
Anonymous
We really took season 1 for granite…
6 months ago
Anonymous
I want to see more mad scientist screw up Rick more often too, but not if it means evil Morty is filling the mary sue void left by Rick.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Perhaps we can move on, perhaps the show does not need a marry sue anymore
6 months ago
Anonymous
Hopefully, but the last episode really seems to be setting up evil Morty as this ultra genius master manipulator who is totally badass and doesnt take shit from anyone.
6 months ago
Anonymous
I want them both to be bumbling idiots from time to time. That's what helps sell the chaotic and unpredictable nature of the show's multiverse-trotting premise.
6 months ago
Anonymous
The premise of the show was always just soulless self-indulgent crap that would get old really fast. There is always a stupid Rick speech.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Rick is still very fallible and wrong, just a couple episodes ago he immediately died when he said he could handle being inside Jerry's mind. In Night Family, Summer defeated him. He's nowhere near where he was in season 4.
6 months ago
Anonymous
I don't consider the espidoes written by children's cartoon writers to be canon, anon.
Do you?
6 months ago
Anonymous
every episode is written by a children's cartoon writer because they're writing Rick and Morty
>Make Rick and Morty into likable people and not jackasses, idk
Pretty much way too late for that. They're pretty much beyond redemption at this point.
There's something up with the two crows. They're either one of the show's more baffling writing failures or they're setup for something we haven't seen yet further down the line. Most fans like Rickmurai Jack, but Forgetting Sarick Mortshall, and the way it connects with Rickmurai Jack as a two-parter, is so weird and obviously unnecessary. What did they mean by this?
>You're welcome by the way, I made you. I showed you and Adult Swim real mainstream success. >And what did you do with it? >Write shitty unfunny episodes? Raise echoes of *my* characters? >What's your show without me? >Admit it, you would've been #metoo'd as well. >I just harassed those girls before you harassed them too. >But eventually... you did! You harassed that Community writer! >YOU SUCCEEDED FROM *MY* SHOW!
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His cue to cry and be emotional as Morty in the Planetina episode was god awful. Remember, Roiland is a comedy guy first and he’s better suited to comedy deliveries, plus he only ever voiced shit in his own creations not counting guest spots in Adventure Time or whatever
Ian Cardoni, discounting how accurate his Rick is or not, had actual resumes in stage, theater, sitcoms, so he probably knows a thing or two more about emotional scenes than Roiland
Do people really feel this way about Roiland's voice acting? The guy deserved to be fired, but I'm just shocked to see everyone shit on his voice acting lately and even claim it sounded "phoned in" for the later seasons. Roiland may have limited range when it comes to the number of distinct voices he can put on, but he's got a WIDE range of emotion within the 2 or 3 voices he specializes in. It surprised me to hear that he'd been recording from home these last few years 'cause I was consistently impressed by his voice acting. Moments that stood out to me S4 onward were any drunk Rick monologues, petty bickering between Rick and Morty, episodes where it's ONLY Rick and Morty like the Citadel finales or the Roy sequel, and of course the Planetina one. That's why I felt we were losing SOMETHING by his recasting, even if I am mostly content with the new guys so far.
Justin has his strengths and weaknesses as an actor. He's good at explosive outbursts, bickering, and subtly differentiating different Ricks and Mortys (to name a few). I don't even like The Vat of Acid Episode that much and he's great the whole way through. But he's never done genuine sadness very well at any degree of intensity. See: Planetina episode, Solaricks, Piss Master. And we've never heard him do anything like the chair scene in last week's episode. Maybe he did just as good as the new guy, but I can't fault people for suspecting the guy with professional acting training and credits did it better. Goddamn I wish we could hear the Roiland cut.
I still loved his Morty line reads to the very end. I think Roiland just couldn't make Rick believably somber, which makes sense. Morty's the emotional one. With Rick, it's sometimes hard to take his vulnerable moments seriously.
I want to say not as good since he got 6 seasons to impress us and the best he managed was quietly saying "everything."
His cue to cry and be emotional as Morty in the Planetina episode was god awful. Remember, Roiland is a comedy guy first and he’s better suited to comedy deliveries, plus he only ever voiced shit in his own creations not counting guest spots in Adventure Time or whatever
Ian Cardoni, discounting how accurate his Rick is or not, had actual resumes in stage, theater, sitcoms, so he probably knows a thing or two more about emotional scenes than Roiland
Couple seasons ago I thought the show was out of good ideas and on the way down, but 6 and 7 have really surprised me. I'm pretty happy about the way the characters are being handled now.
>I'm pretty happy about the way the characters are being handled now.
season7 so far has literally just been repeats of shit, and not even timely ones. ep 4 was literally the space fart episode from season 1 with morty moralgayging, when he seemed pretty beyond that at this point in a way that felt unnatural for him to go back there. he should have been in the more blasé phase of not being too stunned by ricks shenanigans and being a bit peved. I dont mind episode 5 too much, but even then Morty wasn't that great.
Not a massive deal, but one thing I thought was odd was that Evil morty is implied to be smarter than rick c137 here. And maybe alwaus has been since he decided to turn? when the whole thing with the infinite finite curve was that ricks are all the smartest beings in each of those universes. But evil morty came from one of those universes. so shouldnt he be less smart then our rick who is portrayed as secound only maybe to rick prime? I was ok with evil morty being just really sly and knowing how ricks think and exploiting that to get his out, made sense. But this one implies hes also a tech genius equal or greater than c137. With him fixing his shirt or being right on pace with him.
Evil morty is a mary sue, simple as. But of course anons will not complain about it as hard as they have complained about female mary sues in the past.
Evil morty is a mary sue, simple as. But of course anons will not complain about it as hard as they have complained about female mary sues in the past.
I just think it'd be more believable if the characters were allowed to age. Morty still being 14 at this point is ridiculous given all he's been through.
Or at least Morty in his twenties. Would be cool to see older versions of characters even though dan hambeast and justin roitard said they didn't want to ever
It would still be dumb for morty in his 20s to be able to outsmart prime Rick, supposedly the smartest being in the universe, while sustaining no actual injury, compromising nothing, getting everything he wants and humiliating our Rick while handing him the victory.
yeah, won't deny that
i think it's just hard for me to get invested in morty and summer at this point. the progression of plot without them aging makes it feel like they're both in stagnation while the world goes on.
it also kind of just limits them. like they can't be characters that grow, they have to perpetually remain dumb kids. even jerry had character development
The show has struggled with that for its whole run. When you have stakes of the sort of the destruction of everything and meddling in the multiverse, school drama just seems meaningless. Morty and Summer are supposed to be preteen and teen but writing them to be that in the face of all the shit Rick puts them through is just incoherent. A human being can only go through so many extreme experiences before they stop giving a frick. To put it simply, the show shot its load way to early and now nothing feels like it actually matters.
which is kinda why morty and summer should just be aged up at this point. you can't do generic highschool shit with them anymore since that stuff is small potatoes and jessica isn't endgame.
besides, more than one christmas has passed. morty and summer can have much more room to wiggle if they're not confined to a cartoon highschool and underdeveloped prefrontal cortexes
I mean, he wasn't smarter than Rick Prime, he needed Rick Primes blueprints for the big reality killer weapon. He beat Rick Prime cause of Rick Primes own hubris.
Rick Prime could have set the black ooze to insta kill Rick's that followed him, but he wanted to flex his superiority first.
Rick Prime could have created more robust security around his installations, but he wanted the fun of confronting Rick
Rick Prime could have just killed Rick and Evil Morty while fighting them, we see at the end it was all a game to him, but he wanted to frick with Rick more by giving him hope
Rick Prime could have killed his own Morty instantly, but he didn't see him as a threat, or Evil Morty as a threat, and left himself vulnerable.
Rick Prime was the Rickest Rick, and died to Rick's biggest character flaws, Ego, and Hubris.
Rick Prime is such a conceptually stupid character. He is just a dick for no reason just like Evil Morty. Honestly, they are various levels of dicks for no reason because the typical structure of these episodes is doing the morally correct thing always makes things worse.
Dick for no reason is perfectly fine in a vacuum. But this is an antagonist the show has been building up for a couple of seasons. Dick for no reason does not merit such a build up.
The Citadel was dead wife Rick's thing, Rick Prime never gave a shit. His only sign that something happened was when portal travel broke and Rick reset everyone to their original dimension, at which point he was focused on dodging Rick and building the omega device as a "frick you" to him.
When Rick and Morty hop dimensions to someplace that's almost exactly same as their old dimension does that just mean that all of the people they're replacing already exist or did all the shit that happened to them also happen there
So how do we feel about Evil Morty more or less giving Rick the win and letting him finish his revenge? The fact that he seems smarter and stronger than our Rick and Rick Prime is just so crazy to me. I do really like his character though.
he did it because Rick Prime was the bigger wild card and knew how to build the device. and he half expects c-137 to off himself and be out of his hair anyway
he's not a Mary Sue, he's a foil. I find it pretty telling and pretty embarrassing that people think he's awesome for being pathologically apathetic and isolated. he's just Rick if Rick were ACTUALLY cynical and sheltered rather than simply masking his sentimentality and ego in a paper-thin veil
Evil morty is smarter than the smartest being in the universe while being apathetic, at best, about it, accomplishes everything he sets his mind to, he hands the protagonist the whin while humiliating him, he doesnt care about anything about the plot while successfully pursuing his own things. Yeah, he is pretty obviously a mary sue.
Everything I have listed is indicative of a mary sue.
6 months ago
Anonymous
You missed the most important part >Every character loves them, abandoning their own desires to bend to the Sue >Even the narrative focuses and exalts the Sue
Which Evil Morty doesn't have.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Leia comforting Rey and not Chewie after Han died in Force Awakens is still my classic example of this in action.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Anon, evil sues are still mary sues. Not every character has to love evil Morty, and still he doesnt take shit from anyone and is never the butt of any joke ever. >Even the narrative focuses and exalts the Sue
What part of winning at everything and getting everything did you not understand?
6 months ago
Anonymous
Nta and while I’m not sure I love him coming back but I think the fact they’ve built up and established Evil Morty for so many seasons he’s not a Mary Sue. He’s been outsmarting our Rick since his first appearance in season 1, took over the citadel, escaped the central finite curve, and invented his own portal technology. If a random character showed up and did everything Evil Morty did this episode, I might agree, but as it stands this isn’t that outside of what we know of the character.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Like Rick said. A wienery Morty leads to trouble.
Probably the reason why Rick doesn't train Morty to do stuff on his own and constantly beats down on him
6 months ago
Anonymous
Its one thing to outsmart Rick in certain settings that are not Rick's expertise, like politics or social situations. It is another thing entirely to know Rick's tech better tha he does and essentially hand him the victory over the thing he has shown to care the most about over the whole series. Character set up means nothing if evil Morty has never been shown to be a better scientist than Rick is and yet, that is what evil Morty is in this episode. While having the mroal high ground over Rick and having even more character agency than Rick has.
6 months ago
Anonymous
I'm tempted to rewatch the episode and maybe some others but I'm not sure Evil Morty is a better scientist than Rick so much as on the same level as him, which has been established since at least season 5 with the central finite curve escape and his own parallel portal tech. It's possible this was true from his introduction -- this episode suggests as much with him manipulating and taking control of his Rick with the eyepatch-- what with our Rick never suspecting that Evil Morty was actually the one killing the other Ricks. I think that points to what I got the sense of in this episode, Evil Morty is more effective than Rick when Rick is more attached to the situation and blinded by his ego/ attachments/anger etc. I'm also not convinced Evil Morty has the "moral high ground" in any meaningful sense. Sure, he mocks Rick for not feeling better after killing Rick Prime, but he also threatens him and was likely motivated in everything he did just to get the Omega Device. He isn't "better" than Rick as a person. I think it's the fact they're so similar that allows him to correct and comment on Rick. Sort of a "shouldn't you be better than this old man?" vibe.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Ëvil Morty isnt a mary sue yet, he is just another Rick with different motivations. He's morty with a bunch of dead rick's knowledge and maybe memories.
the only thing that sucks is how bizarrely naive regular morty has been written to make evil morty seem something more.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>he only thing that sucks is how bizarrely naive regular morty has been written to make evil morty seem something more.
He's fighting alongside Rick and Evil Morty, against Prime Rick. Of course he's gonna stand out and look weaker. How would you fare if you were in his shoes?
Rick didn't even want Morty there
6 months ago
Anonymous
>the only thing that sucks is how bizarrely naive regular morty has been written to make evil morty seem something more.
this, felt like they really played up that bit. I get him not being at their level, but they totally went hard into season 1 morty for a hard contrast.
6 months ago
Anonymous
yup. it wasnt even necessary. they could have had morty act like a smart ass or just gung ho about things without reverting him to another state of consciousness entirely.
>he only thing that sucks is how bizarrely naive regular morty has been written to make evil morty seem something more.
He's fighting alongside Rick and Evil Morty, against Prime Rick. Of course he's gonna stand out and look weaker. How would you fare if you were in his shoes?
Rick didn't even want Morty there
he could stand out by simply being outclassed, that would be fine, but theres no reason to present a version of morty that suddenly has no experience being Morty for 7 seasons. it's lazy.
Evil morty is smarter than the smartest being in the universe while being apathetic, at best, about it, accomplishes everything he sets his mind to, he hands the protagonist the whin while humiliating him, he doesnt care about anything about the plot while successfully pursuing his own things. Yeah, he is pretty obviously a mary sue.
Evil Morty is not smarter than Rick, he outsmarts Rick because he knows his weaknesses, but he isnt as as intelligent
rick prime makes this strange assumption that 137 squandered portal technology by living at home and having a family.
what was rick prime doing that was so much different than anything any rick has ever done? what was his motivation even? why create a sad sack story for all the ricks instead of quietly guide ricks already on the verge of success?
that way some ricks keep their wife, others join him in a legit council of ricks, or one he guides behind the shadows. I mean, since he cares so much.
I dont see this changing too much really. which is kind of my point, rick already does whatever he wants, you could argue the family is there to keep him grounded.
Evil Morty has some bizarre space island habitat he hangs in with a butler. Oh wow, amazing. Rick Prime has some death egg hideout dedicated entirely to the ricks hunting him, including giant dead wife sentinels. Oh wow, mind warping.
I still remain firm on the idea that he should've been Rick's first (as like, first Morty he had as a sidekick/partner, not a bio grandson) Morty. >11 months before he went to Prime Rick's dimension to restart the hunt, he had a large falling out with EM due to him getting too "wienery" and and left him and Dimension 79⊢⊇V >A far worse Rick moves into EM's reality to take the vacant spot C-137 left, seeing it as free spot. >He genuinely doesn't give a shit about Morties, just like most Ricks, sees them as completely expandable, but is much more sadistic and unnecessarily cruel, and enjoys flaunting around his superiority over everyone more than most Ricks do >Due to being far more abusive (even physically), manipulative, and controlling, he eventually ends ups doing something to EM that outright shatters the camels back. >EM, now long past his breaking point, plots to premeditatedly murder him like in canon. >He uses any brain boosting objects like Snuffles helmet or something else this Rick carelessly left lying around that could enhance intellect to create his cybernetic eyepatch and mind controlling wires. >Later tries to incapacitate this Rick while he's off-guard by getting him drunk. >The Rick actually fights back, despite his drunken state >EM nearly loses, but knocks him out in a nick of time >Uses stolen tech from this Rick to surgically saw open his head and insert the wires >Using the mind controlling tech, he represses this Ricks consciousness and makes his own mind dominant >Gains access to this Rick's intellect, due to now being able to tap into his brain and mind >It also allows him to access this Ricks memories, allowing him to discover what the CFC really is. >Makes plans on killing more Ricks and taken their intellect and knowledge, soon goes the same route as canon
As for C-137 deciding to live with Evil Morty in the first place, he wanted to try out the Morty idea, and see if it was worth his time and could use a base of sorts.
Evil Morty gives me the impression of a Morty who's been through a lot of Ricks. Certainly, I don't think the one he overpowered was his first. He already had some preexisting familiarity with the Citadel and expected he had a record with them that he'd want removed.
who the frick raised beth? why are there memories of c-137 rick attending Beth’s wedding and holding baby morty if he didn’t show up until he was 14?
???? Also how are all ricks friends the same exact versions throughout each universe change?
Diane for years before Rick Prime killed her for good.
>why are there memories of c-137 rick attending Beth’s wedding and holding baby morty if he didn’t show up until he was 14?
Rick dropped in on another Beth.
>???? Also how are all ricks friends the same exact versions throughout each universe change?
Some of them are probably from other universes. Birdperson is the big problem since he’s confirmed to be from the same universe due to the Federation. I guess Rick doesn’t care about switching to a different version of him if he has to abandon the whole universe?
I know they were buttholes but did anyone else feel a little sorry for Evil Rick and Rick Prime? You can't blame Evil Morty for turning on his Rick but seeing the look of terror on the latter's face as he was about to get swarmed by the mob of Mortys in addition to outright screaming to be put out of his misery was a pitiful way to go out. And as evil as Rick Prime was, watching his face slowly reduced to a bloody pulp was too graphic to really take cathartic joy in. Not trying to sound like I'm complaining because I found it to be a raw scene and he did have it coming but all I'm saying is that perhaps the animalistic way the violence is portrayed is supposed to add to the theme of vengeance making you less of a person. Or maybe I'd feel differently if Rick Prime was revealed to have been real as well as given more screentime much earlier in the show because I don't think there's really that many people out there who were cheering during his beating. We all might as well be like Evil Morty in the situation, simply brought on board for the ride despite not having much stake in the conflict.
you know what i just fricking realized
Harmon got fired from his own show once, resulting in a crummy season that wasted what was left of the cast members who left afterward
and he learned NOTHING from that experience
Yes; now that we've seen outside of the Central Finite Curve, we have more context as to what the promo image could be. Moreover, I wouldn't be surprised if it was another Rick Prime episode, too, and overall a very direct followup to Unmortricken. Unmortricken and Fear No Mort are the only episodes in the series with a title negating either Rick or Morty. (UNmortricken, Fear NO Mort.) We can also expect the episode to revolve around something called the "Fear Hole", teased in some merchandise that they might not have meant to release yet.
It's a reference to the movie Fear No Evil >Teenager is the son of Satan and he's plotting a demonic uprising, while a teen girl and a local old woman are actually angels sent to stop him.
>gave up on killing some guy >go back to wanting to kill him >kills him
Seriously, he should just go back to doing whatever family stuff. There is literally nothing to stop him from having a good life. Seriously, why can't anyone in this show just do the right thing without being shit on? Why is anything done or said by Rick Prime is treated as something that makes sense for anyone to do? Why can't Rick actually raise Morty to be smart and responsible? Why can't he just use his science for good?
>link is fricked
May God forgive me for linking to Reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/rickandmorty/comments/17xigk5/s7e6_rickfending_your_mort_cold_open/
He's also not the "smartest man in the universe" by that point, he frequently fricks up, hell even Rick Potion 9 is unimaginable in the current series cause it's based on the conclusion that Rick's a MAD scientist just kinda fricking around and screwing things up. The show lost its way when it started power scaling Rick into being a god so it could smell it's own farts better, and the people b***hing about Rick Prime going down like a scrub cause of hubris in this thread prove it. I want to see a vulnerable Rick and Morty going forwards, I want to see them stumble and fail, and I'd like to see Rick being wrong more offten.
I want them both to be bumbling idiots from time to time. That's what helps sell the chaotic and unpredictable nature of the show's multiverse-trotting premise.
These. I'm still mad they took wacky, actual mad scientist Rick from us.
We're getting a couple of high-school-focused episodes soon, so we'll see if the writers still have plans for her. They probably do; I think they planned out broad strokes for the whole 70 episode order at once, and they were pushing her hard in season 4 when the school was more in focus.
Well that and I got a bunch of youtube videos recommending it and how delicious fresh honey is and how you can influence the taste of it by planting different flowers for the bee's
?si=pLfNFxUbEohBtPmZ >Eso es todo? >Ese es el final de la saga de Rick Prime? >Era solo Rick golpeando a Rick Prime hasta la muerte. >Que Decepción >GRRRRR DAN HARMON NOS TRAICIONO
Christians and Fallen Angels in a nutshell.
More recent draculas are him being infected with fallen angel dna with the original Dracula being the brother of Satan/Lucifer.
Early review for next episode: >Last week’s episode was big, it featured a showdown with Rick and Rick Prime and also featured the return of the Evil Morty, so this week’s episode “Rickfending Your Mort” has big shoes to fill. >And I’m happy to tell you that it does. >The episode is pretty much Morty’s Mind Blowers 2, if you don’t remember the episode “Morty’s Mind Blowers” from season 3, it was like a clip show but in the form of Morty’s memories. >This episode will be a great time for everyone, fun jokes, references, and great side characters, they also call themselves out for the Rick and Morty cameo in Space Jam: A New Legacy. >So after a rough start to the season, I think the show is starting to find its feet again and I hope this continues for the rest of the season, so on Sunday just sit back, Relax and enjoy what I think is a great episode. >
https://thehollywoodhandle.co/2023/animated/rick-morty-season-7-episode-6-back-on-track/
Are they just gonna give screeners for every episode this season? I thought that was only reserved for the first 2-3 episodes and that's it. Rick and Morty is already big enough that it doesn't need internet reviewers to shill it.
Screencap this
Diane is the final villain and she faked her death and left with their daughter because she was sick of the patriarchy and rick not fighting for more women in stem
I was surprised when we saw Evil Morty's idea of paradise being alone in chaos with some robot butler.
I honestly thought Evil Morty's whole plan was to go to a completely 100% normal universe. Normal family, no aliens, no magic, nothing like that at all. And that version of Rick being either dead or an actual normal grandpa
Are they really so against letting Morty have friends even after all his development and built-up confidence throughout the show? He's an average 14-year-old in the same way Summer is an average 17-year-old, and she's been shown to have friends long after they stopped doing high school stories. We really are owed that upcoming high school episode because it's such a mystery how that aspect of the kids' lives would play out even in a 30-second gag. Who even ARE Morty and Summer outside of the house or Rick's adventures?
The idea that Morty is still 14 year olds will never not be moronic
He should be 15-16 by now. It has been "One year since Rick arrived" in fricking season 2
6 months ago
Anonymous
Same with Summer they had her be 18 in Season 3 but then reverted her back to 17 in Season 4 due to lazy writing. Rick and Morty isn't the kind of how that benefits from a floating timeline like the Simpsons
6 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, it's stupid. And it would have been really easy to do something like 'Oh Morty's voice is different now because something something puberty', but i guess so much as mentioning something related to roiland is forbidden because he's been declared damnatio memoriae or something.
6 months ago
Anonymous
I could see the writers wanting to make an off-hand reference at some point in a later season, but it's just as likely that Harmon and several people who've been there since the early seasons would find it too sensitive of a thing to joke about. We won't know for sure unless it actually happens.
6 months ago
Anonymous
NOTHING MATTERS, TIME ISN’T REALL, LICK MY BALLS MORTY
He lives, with Prime's Grandson, a mirror version of his wife, her clone, her daughter and an alternate version of her husband. Just a family of interdimensional travelers.
>Whole point of Evil Morty is that 'he fricked off from the story' >They even make a 'le self aware joke why are u back you were cool from fricking off'
So sad
Tired of this Gary stu now
The concept was cool in the beginning but his own popularity killed his character
What happened to all the megas? I've been sort of checking the threads and looking in the archives, are they not allowed to be posted anymore? Also there hasn't been a cartoon thread on /wsg/ either.
Or a ygyl on /gif/.
I'm not begging, obviously torrents are available. Just wondering if they are being banned or reported or something because they used to be a lot more common.
its kinda moronic to post megas when they are going to get deleted at the end of the day, just torrent, its way easier and faster (in torrent galaxy it gets posted about 5 to 6 minutes after the episode is out)
I was thinking about something. Prior to this episode we never really saw any other Ricks going after Prime besides C-137. I imagine most of the ones who took his portal tech and operated with the Citadel didn't have the motivation for it even though he killed their wives too. But after "evil" Morty killed off all the Citadel associated Ricks all that's left now are the ones that are closer to C-137 and Prime. In fact given the huge amount of culling that's been done wouldn't most of the newly formed Ricks being generated now be closer to C-137? Seems like on a multiverse scale they're naturally selecting for the Ricks that are the most competent and the ones closest to C-137 within the central finite curve.
I dunno. Maybe the writers don't care, or the central finite cure doesn't work like that.
leg rick
Technically Morty isn't even his grandson, even that part of his life is all Prime Rick
did Morty die or something?
rick c-137 finally killed Rick prime
Hopefully cancellation
btw it wasn't actually Rick Prime, it was his clone and he's coming back for the final season
you mean decoy
Get ready for the death battle with the Doctor.
they'll be very serialized without an overarching villain for a while, and then bring up someone random either from the past, or write a new villain that was relevant to rick's past in some way (but has never been mentioned before, maybe hinted at a long time ago but not explicitly). Same thing they've done for every villain/villainous organization
this guy would such a gimme to bring back. give him his own finite curve and have them all try to kill the ricks
I was anticipating the Cthulhu creature in the opening would do something, until rick just shooed it away with spray
>until rick just shooed it away with spray
Wut, when was it ?
Cold open of the dinos episode
Why did they never bring back this guy? The car battery ep was on of the best ones in the show
Callbacks are some of the worst shit in the show and you want more?
My guess is Stephen can't make time or won't make time for them, despite having lots of on/off time for his show.
Black person have you just overlooked what Evil Morty is doing. The show's overarching villain is the one we've had since season 1.
Rick c-137 is the final boss. Mr poopybutthole will kill him
Evil Morty seems content living alone
Unless they completely change his motivations why would he be the next villain? If anything he’ll sometimes show up like he did for this episode and be Ricks true Morty
Though our Morty might also be great seeing as he’s Rick Primes grandkid
>raising ECHOES of my daughter
What did rick prime mean by this. Does that mean every universe where the Smiths are a family is actually a variation of the original universe where Prime is from, where he raised Beth until he decided to frick off.
Does that mean the parmesian universe AND the universe that Rick moved to after the Cronenberg incident are technically C-137-C and C-137-D or something? With the multiverse being a thing, are there also actual infinite variations of Rick Prime himself? So there are million of universes where C-137 faced off against Prime in that planet of his, or is that the only planet built by Prime in the entire multiverse?
That gets me thinking, was there only one Citadel of Ricks in the entire multiverse or several? Also did Diane really die in all conceivable universes? Damn did they really think any of this through?
>Damn did they really think any of this through?
laugh at preserved vegetable (that looks like penis)
>raising ECHOES of my daughter
I think he just said that to be cool.
However it's interesting that Prime said only he and C137 actually invented portal travel. If Prime is something akin to a first mover then maybe he's right in just calling other Dianes echoes.
Not sure if I have a theory here, but Rick Prime mentions that C-137 was the only other Rick to actually invent portal travel.
Evil Morty says he can end "the Rick experiment".
Rick Prime also has a weapon removes someone from every possible reality. Why not a weapon that injects someone into every possible reality?
Evil Morty also talked about the Citadel manufacturing Mortys.
Could be that Rick Prime is somehow responsible for creating the parallel Ricks to as either a grand experiment or ego trip.
He's just referring to the clone thing probably.
ECHOES of my daughter
>What did rick prime mean by this.
It's very easy. Rick literally isn't living with Beth Prime, but he did replace her with an essentially identical variation after the Cronenberg shitshow and then cloned her.
Pretty much this: Dead Wife Rick fricked up Prime Rick's Earth, and the Rick Citadel finished the job. The Former took everything away from the latter without even knowing it.
The whole point of the "central finite curve" is that it was specifically a functionally finite group of universes were:
1.) Rick is the smartest person in the universe
2.) Rick would be down to form a boy's club of himself
3.) Rick father's Beth, who then specifically gives birth to Morty
In a truly infinite multiverse would literally have infinite variations of absolutely everything. But no-one likes to look at how far the gulf between Achilles and the Turtle goes, so even though Evil Morty can go outside the central finite curve, they'll never bring up that another Rick Prime can just show up and keep fricking with our Rick.
That doesn't matter. What mattered is that specific Rick Prime fricked with our Rick
>Damn did they really think any of this through?
NOOOoooooo they did not.
This is why I hate the multiverse. It makes things too repetitive and complicated. Sure it's fun when you write stories about exploring other realities. But have the protagonist interact with other versions of himself is just played out and boring. It can work in some cases. But you need a really good story, helmed by competent writers. Otherwise meeting your alternate self gets old very quick.
Personally I'm surprised that they didn't do a 'young rick' type episode. Where we see a younger rick(doesn't have to be our rick) exploring portal travel and the multiverse. When it's still shiny and new, so the audeince can wonder and awe with him.
rick lives in prime ricks universe.
except he doesn't. Rick Prime's original universe was Cronenberg Universe, which our Rick abandoned without a thought after fricking it up despite apparently waiting for his "nemesis" there for years because all of this plot was made up as they went and makes no fricking sense.
>[living] there for years
Rick had only been living with them for a year in season 1.
>because all of this plot was made up as they went and makes no fricking sense.
True.
Jesus, this board is full of tards. Lmao.
Yes, Rick PRIME is the nexus point from which all other Rick's inside the central finite curve are manifold deviations. They're composite Ricks.
Except that there is no Rick Prime in the first place. How do you select which Rick is Prime? Is it temporal priority? There are an infinite number of temporally identical universes so there isnt one which is prior. Is it that others are deviations of the first? How are they deviations, what makes the first more authentic than the other ones? Is it inventing the portal gun? Supposedly an infinite number of Ricks invented the portal gun simultaneously, did one just grab a bunch of the ones who didnt and locked them up in the finite curve? Ok, but that would mean that there are still an infinite number of variations of the finite curve and no way to tell which ones are in this specific finite curve and which ones are not. And also, there should be an infinite number of Ricks who escaped the finite curve as well.
All of this is to say that the idea of anything prime in a multiverse is moronic.
Rick Prime was actually the only one that invented portal travel without getting it from another Rick (aside from main Rick who invented it after Rick Prime used it to kill his family), that's why they call him "Rick Prime", because he's the one that propagated portal tech to all the other Ricks.
But that is not true in an actual multiverse. Assuming modal realism, anything possible is true in an alternate world, so, there are an infinite number of Ricks who invented the portal gun. All we need is an instance where Rick could have done something else to generate a world in which everything is identical except for that one thing. When Rick Prime was born, did he open his eyes at one time or a second earlier? If the latter is possible then there is a world in which everything is the same except for that minute detail. So, we have another Rick that invented portal technology.
That's clearly not how universes work in Rick and Morty though, otherwise you'd get multiverse scale disruptions daily from the infinite amount of insane scientists throwing stuff at it.
Isnt that what is happening constantly? Also, given that the multiverse is infinite, it doesnt mean that all possible worlds are shit. If its possible for universes to not be involved in the chaos then those exist. When the show uses the sentence 'infinite number of realities' I take it at its word.
there are no infinite multiverses and they clearly esstablished that, all the available multiverses are all set under the rick experiment, they can only teleport to universes where rick is a established constant.
Evil morty literally breaks out of those and starts traveling in universes outside of that pocket, but in the universes where theres a top rick, all his wives are dead.
The fact that there are an infinite number of alternate realities is explicitly mentioned countless times in the show.
and its established in the citadel destruction that those "infinite" all share the same trait that they are the ones where the ricks got access to dimension travel.
The last episode had portions outside of those and there were other people inventing dimension travel.
The "inifnite" universes the ricks established to travel all have similar traits so he never crosses people as dangerous as him, its a giant crib
This explanation makes the most sense to me but I still feel as though the show itself has done little to actually state or establish it for viewers
its straight up explained by the evil morty, its his yellow portal things, they arent limited. this is also viewed in his latest episode with th euniverses he travels being surreal
Literally explained by or possible to infer from?
i googled an episode analysis for you that puts it better than i would
"You see, Rick was either the first one or one of the first Ricks to have realized the potential in having Morty as an adventure partner, and soon enough other Ricks started wanting a Morty of their own, so they started manipulating infinite Beths to have sex with infinite Jerrys to produce infinite Mortys, and when that wasn't enough, they started cloning them inside the Citadel, making them both companions and their work force to maintain a wall that cordons off all the universes where Rick isn't the smartest man in existence, or as Morty calls it, an "infinite crib built around an infinite fricking baby."
Evil Morty's plan has been to break the Rick and Morty dynamic once and for all, destroy the wall, and go to a universe where Rick isn't the smartest man, something that makes perfect sense and somehow had never seemed like a possibility before."
considering how shit the world is outside of that crib then goo goo gaa gaa I wouldn't want out
>episode analysis
I get that this is how the central finite curve works and that this has been established but your earlier point about now this connects with Rick Prime is something I haven’t seen addressed by the show directly to my knowledge. Anyway, I like it and think it makes the most sense of the mental gymnastics we’re asked to pull by the writers to make this make sense.
i think of it as two infinite pools , both are infinite but one is infinite with more possibilities than the others.
prime or "our" rick have established perimeters that keep them within universes where they are the smartest thing available, which explains why they never go to a universe where jerry is a super genius that surpasses rick, for instance.
after the crib breaks that is now a possibility
The only thing he can do. Live.
?t=59
dale will save him
Dan Harmon gets fired for supporting Palestine
The twitter troony troupe of writers leave too
Production moves to Australia
The show is drawn in Flash frame-by-frame
Justin reappears not as Aussie R&M but as Mr. Poopy Dingo
Jannies and Feminists seethe
The show finally reaches its full potential.
Just watch YOLO if you want something like that.
Koala Man is fine but feels very sitcom-y, like it was gonna be a Fox show before moving to Hulu.
>somehow got a season 3
CUSACKCHADS CAN'T STOP WINNING
Second season was okay. It was starting to feel like he didn't have a part in making it anymore.
how come a majority of Cinemaphiles ideas to "fix" shit is just petty revenge against people they don't like
Because I'm not being paid and nobody in Hollywood cares what an outsider thinks, so frick you.
You are being paid, and I care. I am George Takei
It's the same shit with Cinemaphile. People has no fricking idea and incredibly bad taste.
>MORTY
>OI TURNED MAH SHIT SHOW INTO A GOOD SHOW MORTY
>GET IN THE FACKIN CAAAAH
>>HE DOESN'T WANT TO GO ON ANYMORE ADULT SWIM ADVENTURES
>>oh my god, I'm, like, calling the police.
>GET IN THE FACKIN CAAAAAAAAH MORTYYYY!!
Finding that there's a Diane left. Rick Prime is a liar, and knowing a Rick, he'd have one locked away somewhere. Because what's better than depriving all of the Ricks their wives? Being the only Rick to have a Diane, and not care about her
What was the point of prime Rick? Seasons of buildup only to have ultra mary sue evil morty just beat the guy completely unceremoniously with completely forced stakes and a machine we just find out exists. The show is clearly out of ideas. They even had to retcon evil morty leaving the timeline for this. He is just back, they can go after him. Why was it such a big effort to leave the finite curve in the first place if it was so easy to come back?
>Why was it such a big effort to leave the finite curve in the first place if it was so easy to come back?
He destroyed the CFC didn't he? It's why Rick's portal gun didn't work for a while.
The episode still showed visuals of the curve, and Evil Morty being annoyed that Rick was "fracking" it.
I think all he did was blow a rift in it in order to leave, and the rift was why stuff didn't work for a bit until it got fixed.
As to how he got back in though, idk. Yellow portals special or its because he originates from the CFC that it lets him back in.
It's far easier to get into a prison than to get out of one.
First of all Evil Morty had to cheat multiple times with the 2v1, the mind reading device and would've lost regardless if he hadn't switched clothes with our Morty.
second, my problem with previous seasons was them dragging things out over multiple episodes across multiple seasons, I'm glad that it's finally fricking over so we can move on to what Rick wants to do next.
>First of all Evil Morty had to cheat multiple times with the 2v1, the mind reading device and would've lost regardless if he hadn't switched clothes with our Morty.
You call it cheating but evil Morty beat a fully teched up rick with a couple of tools and apparently effortlessly. He sustained no injuries and seemed almost bored doing it. Evil Morty essentially outsmarted and beat the smartest Rick, who btw is the smartest being in the universe, without breaking a sweat.
same old same old.
Also, you morons do realize that rick prime isnt gone right? Narratively speaking, for a big bad guy like this you have to follow him as the pov character in his backstory first for there to be an actual end to him. like what happened this episode with evil morty. Evil morty could die now. But bet my dime on it, Rick prime is coming back.
It just doesnt make authorial sense. Its a bait death of some kind.
That would certainly fix things from a narrative standpoint, but it would still make the episode worthless and a kick in the ribs to Rick.
I do think writers want evil morty to be some sort of comeuppance to Rick. So far, this season has been a lets kick Rick the show. Which, while warranted, its the other bad extreme to the super mary sue Rick of seasons 3-5.
I mean, there is the Kanon Killing Kannon negga-mort has, the knowledge that mort-noire can pop in with the right contrivence, and Rick 137 now grappling with probably being the same mental type who did all this shit instead of having just a object to obsess over.
Again, my story senses just dont believe this is the end for Rick prime. It doesnt smell right.
Our Rick becomes new Rick Prime out of boredom induced insanity and this creates himself? Maybe he brings back Rick Prime because his life really has no meaning without the hunt?
Rick isn’t being put down, he’s healing and sometimes healing takes getting kicked by people who you were negative towards and having to move on without a clean goodbye. Look at Unity. Great, Rick gets help but Unity doesn’t owe him shit and can’t trust him. Further, look at Summer and Rick yelling at each other about Unity. Rick apologized… quietly, after the door slam, but Summer doesn’t have to accept that half-assed apology even if he really, really meant it.
If I had to guess, I'd say he's coming back this season. Season finale material. I can see the setup for it with what's been promoed already. At the very least his weird unexplained black goo is still in the mix.
because of how rick and morty focused this episode this was and how much they had to be expressive instead of just talk calmly, the voice acting was really grating. it can sometimes be passing when they are normal talking, but the different voice acters get really noticable when they get expressive.
>weird unexplained black goo
Eh, maybe, I think that might just be a weird handwavy one time episodic tech thing thats pretty common.
>t. is talking about Harmon c123
>Also, you morons do realize that rick prime isnt gone right? Narratively speaking, for a big bad guy like this you have to follow him as the pov character in his backstory first for there to be an actual end to him. like what happened this episode with evil morty. Evil morty could die now. But bet my dime on it, Rick prime is coming back.
It just doesnt make authorial sense. Its a bait death of some kind.
Yeah, Rick totally kept him alive to torture him forever or something.
>rick goest to therapy
>therapy is a pickle
>walawaldu
>frick tjhe audience for caring
Wtf it's already airing?
wdym? you been living under a rock or something?
If anyone’s been sidelined so far this season, it’s Summer. Normally this wouldn’t be a problem for me since she’s my least favorite character, but I did like what they did with her last season. Gotron episode, too.
It'd be so easy to make Summer a good character, just dial back her c**ty Mary Sue tendencies and give her arc or something. She's a lot like Dr Wong in that she's clearly just one of the writer's stand-ins but they seemed to have abandoned that lately.
she was Roilands stand-in, nobody will tell you this, but he secretly wanted to be a 17 year old girl, and that's the real reason why he got canned.
No, he wanted to be IN a 17 year old girl, didn't you read the texts?
She's fine as Morty's butthole back up who is down for Rick's more devious, but is still highly upset by the horrible stuff that Morty is now kind of dead to.
So what would gen 3 be like
let it die already
classic rick and morty adventures. no not the good ones like in seasons 1 and 2, only fascists like them. i'm talking about the real hard hitters like beth and dr. wong rolling around in their period blood.
breasts not on model, especially morticia.
He builds a new wife?
The episode is garbage, and here's why.
1. From the way Rick Prime was shown at the end of the 6 season, it could be concluded that he really quantumly multiplied himself in order to be everywhere, participate in all events across all worlds and at the same time not be afraid of being killed. I personally thought that Rick would try to find a way to bring Prime back into single body to kill him, perhaps meeting his quantum copies in different worlds and extracting bits of information. Instead, it was all just his decoys. The same as Rick had in the previous season. And the real Prime is just a material dude. A dude who, in fact, turned out to be no fundamentally different from any other fricked up Rick, and was shamefully humiliated IN A REGULAR FIGHT, without any cunning tricks or conditions, although he was presented as the most cunning Rick.
2. Prime's regeneration potential was not realized. Regeneration was not at all an obstacle to killing him, although we were shown an entire scene with the murder of Cronenberg Jerry to demonstrate this feature. Plus, Evil Morty's SUPER SHIELDS, with which he deflects Rick's shots, remain on throughout the entire episode, and Prime's shields, with which he also deflected Rick's shot, suddenly vanished to hell.
3. Morty is a relative of Prime. This wasn't used at all in the plot and did not have any significance for this confrontation. This line might as well not have existed at all, and nothing would have changed.
4. Prime’s motivation is not explained at all. Why he did all this, what he was going for, etc. I would even accept such a motivation that he, from realizing the entire scale and variability of the multiverse, went crazy and thought that nothing matters, so you can have fun and do any shit without getting attached to anything and without looking at the consequences. But he doesn't express this philosophy, doesn't try to convince Rick that “nothing is true, everything is permissible.” He just shouts out some silly insults and tries to stupidly tease him.
5. Rick's motivation for creating the Citadel remains unclear. Why did he do this, if before that he despised the other Ricks, and after that the Citadel was a place he hated? I assumed it was to trap Prime by limiting his movements to a finite set of worlds, but in the end it just wasn't explained as well.
6. Evil Morty, despite all the pretentious bullshit with the destruction of the Citadel and leaving the final curve, simply returns out of nowhere and for some reason begins to play his own game, eventually becoming the main antagonist again. A very strange script decision. He was perfectly taken out of the plot, his motivation was well written, and the attention was shifted to a new antagonist, no less interesting. Instead, they just dump the new, hyped-up villain as stupidly as possible and returning the old one, from whom attention has already shifted. Why the frick was it done? Plus, the backstory of Evil Morty turned out to be the most ordinary backstory of any other Morty, without any differences, so what caused his fierce hatred of Rick is not at all clear. Plus, his know-it-all nature and genius have already become somewhat annoying and, again, have not yet been substantiated in any way.
7. And most importantly: if it was in fact so easy to calculate Prime’s real location, literally in ten minutes, then what the frick has Rick been doing all this time since the start of his vendetta? In this episode, nothing fundamentally new is revealed that would suddenly help him reach Prime, he had to JUST keep hunting for Prime's decoys, JUST fall into that trap, steal the slime and discover Prime's location. Absolutely nothing different from what Rick did before to get revenge.
Worst thing about it is that evil Morty dropped in and explained something as fundamental as search filtering to Rick. But you are right, nothing Rick does here is built up on previous episodes to structure a search for prime Rick. There is nothing in this new episode that Rick couldnt have done before, and if there is, it is done offscreen and never explained. What is the point of such a massive buildup if there is no journey? Everything relevant to prime Rick ,except for his introduction into the story, happens in this particular episode. It is all just so forced and crammed together.
>Prime’s motivation is not explained at all. Why he did all this
To spite Rick, that's the main reason why he killed his family.
C-137 dared to reject Prime's gift of portal travel, so he killed C-137's family as a retaliation.
Only for it to backfire due to robbing everything from C-137, Prime just only set in motion events where C-137 would figure out portal travel out of sheer hatred, rage and spite so he could hunt down Prime and kill him for revenge.
None of that is explained or motivated in the show. Why would Rick prime even care that a random Rick didnt want his technology. If there are an infinite number of possible Ricks, then there are an infinite number of Ricks who didnt accept portal travel. None of this backstory and relevant motivations are touched on or shown in the actual episode. Prime Rick makes no mention whatsoever of the and just acts as baddy of the week.
He’s morty but evil, that’s his gimmick. An evil self centered person wouldn’t put up with a ricks bullshit
Watch out for him
We dance
Diane may be gone forever, but I do still hope the writers take the opportunity to show even a glimpse of how C-131 Beth grew up after her Rick walked out on her. Froopyland conveniently avoided any mention of how Diane fit into the picture.
He's going to turn into one gaaaay motherfricking pussy and you're all going to hate it and half of the normie fanbase will be too.
He's going to start becoming healthy next season, the one after that he'll be straight up woke and flipping his fans off, it'll be some classic drama
The next episode preview seems to show he's just bored without the drive of Rick Prime.
Yep, it's a recovery episode, doesn't change the trajectory.
idk.
Grass tastes bad
what do you think of the new VA?
Bretty good actually. I'm impressed by the overall quality of Rick's replacement considering the quick turnaround for the S7 redubs. Morty will always sound off, but I'm at peace with that. He's a growing boy and that awkwardness seems fitting.
>that one She-Hulk and Futurama writer in the background
Why is this fat blob fricking everywhere?
Cuz he's a good writer who worked his way up into being a part of popular franchises? Why are you so miserable?
>he's a good writer
lol yeah sure buddy
His Futurama episode sucked ass, but I'm intrigued by the thought of him being put in charge of what's essentially the premiere of a whole new era for the show. Maybe he was just given poor material to work with on the former.
>a whole new era for the show
WDHMBT?
>everything he's written up to this point has been complete shit but maybe this time he'll turn out to be a comedy genius
he wishes he could write anything this funny
where's that magic eraser tool when you need it
i can't believe gays like you actually exist, so willing to accept Roiland's replacement the guy 80% responsible for a show you are a raving fan of and you're making up excuses like "oh morty is going through puberty i-its fine"
>what do you think of the new VA?
I think Unmortricken sold me on Cardoni's Rick. He's not a perfect soundalike but he's close enough and has some acting chops that maybe Justin didn't. Belden's Morty sounds more inconsistent to me. Sometimes he's right on the money and other times way off—too high and squeaky with too many voice cracks. They've barely had any time to record so I can see it getting better over time, especially with the right vocal coach.
I'm looking forward to this one. Could be any combination of anthology episode, Morty-focused, Blips and Chitz, and depressed Rick, all of which have my interest by themselves.
>essentially the premiere of a whole new era for the show
Really gets the noggin joggin.
Well obviously its "who is the device getting used on?" Beth, Jerry or Summer? Probably Mr Poopybutthole.
Gene
Who wore it best?
morty's a flat character in comparison to gene
name any trait of morty that isn't horny, likes girls, anxious, mad at rick
Do you really need any more than that? Rick and Morty is at its best when it keeps its characters simple.
Wants to do good by people and fails as a result. He's a person who's not that moral who wants to be moral and his drive to do so is a frequent plot motivator
Please quit embarrassing yourself. Gene is a fricking joke, on his own AND within the context of his series. You're lucky to ever get an episode where he adds to the narrative or carries any actual weight for a change. The way he's been used for years now has been a disgrace. At least Morty's still interesting and has different sides to him that are explored by his writers.
jerry get ipad
>7 seasons in and still the best character
How does he do it?
He wasn't really someone with a plan. I imagine Jerry was primarily written back then by people who hated their dads and wanted someone to project that onto.
I think all the other characters are also just exhausted and mary-sued. Like wah wah no one cares that Beth has daddy issues or Rick is sad about diane or whatever.
Kinda like how Summer went from a generic teenage girl to being a regressed Morty, then went to a b***hy writer's insert and then back to being Morty #2. They exhausted everything they could do with either so now Summer and Jerry are adequate comedic relief.
Summer always bounces back and forth between being funny and being obnoxious, typically leaning toward the latter.
Summer is coom bait at this point which i dont mind
At this point? Summer started out as coom bait. I think they've been trying to round off that edge of her to distance themselves from Justin, and if I'm right, we can expect them to double down on doing so now that they've actually gotten rid of him. I really really hope I'm wrong. We should get a better idea in the back half of this season; if an episode called fricking "Wet Kuat Amortican Summer" doesn't treat Summer (and her classmates) as at least kind of coombaity, then the show has become edgeless.
correction, Tricia is coom bait. Summer is Jerry in a red wig.
My man!
Practically all of the high school girls on the show are coom bait. Only exception coming to mind is Nancy, and for her I'm pretty sure for her it's just that the art style did her no favors. But you can't deny that was the intent with Summer from the start. Consider the very second episode of the show.
>can't deny
can and would
Shocking! People bear a resemblance to their family members, including ones of the opposite sex
thats an idea for an episode, jerry always wondered who it was like to have a vegana
>Jerry in a wig
You guys say that like it’s not a bonus.
Episode where Jerry has to take Jerry-To-Summer Disguise Pills as an emergency measure to protect his family, and after that immediate crisis has passed, he discovers he's addicted to them and starts using them recreationally.
White Ricks
I fricking hate Justin. Summer getting most of the fanservice and being the most prominent female character on the show is what made r34 artists resort to drawing her because she's seen as the only option. I would hope Unity's return would help, but no one batted an eye at that episode. Seems Unmortricken is the only one to turn heads so far this season.
The Summer Rule 34 has been the glue holding the community together since the beginning.
Yeah, cuz people don't watch the show.
>worried enough to come back
Dumping her was stupid.
This. When will they introduce Wild Summer?
According to Prime Jerry, her and Prime Beth died off-screen. Unless they pull off some alternate universe stuff since it's possible that Prime universe wasn't the only one to get Cronenberged or do Council of Summers shenanigans that were teased in previews we might be out of luck with Wild/Feral/Savage Summer making her return.
>Wild/Feral/Savage Summer
I think 'Hermit Summer' or 'Summer Prime' work just fine.
Not sure Hermit Summer would work since Jerry Prime only became Hermit Jerry after Summer and Beth Prime. Summer Prime is a good designation but doesn't quite give her appearance justice.
The names for the alternate Ricks haven't been great with most of the community talking about Rick Prime as Evil Rick when Evil Rick was Evil Morty's Rick.
Literally every fan calls him 'Rick Prime.' That's always been made very apparent.
You picture just reminded me - now that the Rick Prime plot is apparently over, what did they mean by that?
>Wow, are those all the places Rick Prime could be?
>I wish, Morty. It's all the places he is.
What do you mean? It was the decoys. We literally saw Rick and Morty going through them with a machine.
But those wouldn't literally be him. If they were literally him, like, in a hivemind way, then there wouldn't necessarily be a "real" Rick Prime like the one that they were trying to sort through the decoys to get (indeed, that would be a kind of stupid design flaw on Rick Prime's part, like what we see in the episode where Evil Morty hacks away all of the backups). Indeed, if it was just decoys, and Rick just didn't know which one of them was the real one, then the answer to "Wow, are those all the places Rick Prime could be?" would be "Yes, Morty, right on the money for once"
>If they were literally him, like, in a hivemind way
They were him in a hivemind way. Did you miss last week's episode? They were finishing each other's sentences.
And when Evil Morty got ahold of Rick Prime he was able to "fry his backups" presumably killing them. It kind of tracks with Project Phoenix and the decoys; Rick Prime built better versions of both.
Is Pocket Mortys less shit now or is it still some unenjoyable cashgrab?
Summer not having the visible eye lashes like all the other female characters only draws attention to the Jerry resemblance which has both it's pros and cons.
Genuinely what is the purpose of the anime? I saw the intro a while back and it only left me with MORE questions.
We can only guess. Maybe they were trying to throw Justin a bone since he loves him some Anime.
>Summer is coom bait
And that's a good thing
It really isn't. The art team has since improved upon Roiland's art style, so Summer looks even shittier than she did at the start of the show. Tammy was always superior anyway. Stripperbreasts then made Summer completely pointless.
> so Summer looks even shittier than she did at the start of the show.
I feel like that's why they moved away from Jessica since her design gets mogged by the newer ones.
He's an average man with the occasional glimmer of brilliance.
Otherwise, he's just Rick's comedic foil.
Initially he was charming because of his comedic simplicity and banality, like Marge Simpson.
As the show progressed and everyone started to become "Rickified", however, Jerry cemented himself as the best character by being:
A) the only one who would consistently stand up to and call out Rick even when Morty started to stop giving a shit
B) the sole optimist and genuinely well-intentioned member of the Smith family who just wanted to be a dad and husband
C) the only character who regularly got shat on and didn't have a mandate to be "cool" and "edgy", which made him more endearing
Then they started pairing him with Rick and realised that they absolutely love writing those characters together, so they made them less antagonistic towards one another. They stopped shitting on him so much and gave him more and more wins and they even had him get one over on Rick every so often, all while keeping him as the squeamish, milquetoast underdog he's always been.
TL;DR Jerry is simultaneously the most consistently written character and the one who has received the most growth and development without ever being forced into being cool like the other Smiths. And, as the show has gone to weirder, more seriualised places, he's become something of a glue holding the family together and an audience and writer surrogate for commenting on how fricked up everything is.
Being voiced by Chris Parnell doesn't hurt either.
Chris Parnell is so fricking good. He deserves top billing in the credits.
Him and beh both weigh down the show heavily
No, just Beth.
They might make Mr Nimbus seem like a more credible threat
>Bum tssss
>A.aaa..ah..aaa..ah..aaa..aa..a
>Bum tssss
>A.aaa..ah..aaa..ah..aaa..aa..a
Kino
YOU LIVED IN MY HOUSE! was genuinely really well delivered as somebody who gives zero fricks about the show.
Why don't you give a frick about Rick and Morty?
Lost interest by season 2 ish?
damn
35 more episodes, Morty.
This is a Bojack Horseman type scenario. "You got what you wanted, but life isn't a story. After your grand finale, you have to live the day after. And the one after that."
Prime Rick gets hyped up for two seasons. Ends up doing nothing but kill newly random introduced character for a gag, has no attachments to anything else, only serves as plot device to set up evil morty, a character that was essentially retconned back into the show. Writers are out of ideas.
I agree it was a bit stupid but Slow moebius was in the season 1 finale. He froze time when Rick was on crystals and dancing.
More incest.
Rewatched the season 5 finale for the first time in a long time today and a couple lines stood out to me this time around.
>It's just that the battle for crows is never ending.
>Huh, right. A little pointless then, right? ...That came out wrong, sounded judge-y.
>You've had a thousand adventures with these crows. When are you going to kill their big bad?
>First off, the "will they kill they" is everything to my guys. And secondly, frick you for trying to undermine my happiness.
I know the writing in this show shouldn't be taken remotely seriously, but can't help but wonder if they're going anywhere with those ideas anyway.
I watched this a long time ago but out of context this dialogue makes me want to vomit
Like they don't sound like real people. This is just writers huffing their own farts. There is a way to do that kind of improv well (Brendon Small and Coach McGuirk) but this is just. surface level jabs. Like who the hell actually thinks this is funny. I've heard better lines from shitty fanfiction written by 12 year olds
This show is a fricking joke.
The problem with the show now is that it has too much baggage. It has flip flopped so much with its narrative that even if they try to go back to episodic adventures, they would need to retcon a bunch of shit and even then, they have tried episodic formats before and it did not stick. I think we just have to settle with the fact that R&M will never be incredible and groundbreaking again. It will just have great episodes here and there but it will overall be formulaic and repetitive. You can only do the jaded genius learns lesson so many times. They have already tried shaking the status quo and that didnt stick, they tried shifting the character dynamics and that did not stick. They tried making the nackground characters more integral to the plot and that didnt stick. They tried adding Summer into the protagonist ensemble and that didnt stick. Nothing they tried sticks. WHat else can they do at this point that they have not tried before?
Make Rick and Morty into likable people and not jackasses, idk
I think at the very least they could have an arc where Rick learns to be nicer (without it being all cringe and about therapy and cringe #gurlpower). Maybe the following episodes can be smaller-scale arcs about villains or some shit while Morty tries to help Rick and they learn to get along better.
>this fricking argument again
there's simple in a good way and simple in a bad way. Rick was simple as a fun alcoholic who was out of it in the first few episodes, now he's "simple" as a jaded butthole. the show's simple now but not enjoyable
>Make Rick and Morty into likable people and not jackasses
Making Rick nice would break his character. The core of Rick is that he is a jackass. At most, the lesson should be that he isnt the best ever but that should not come from evil Morty being a random mary sue. It should come from the wider universe having a range of people that eithe rival him or are smarter due to them being aliens outside of human understanding. Alternatively, you can just have characters that are better in other areas. The problem with the show is that it has conflated intelligence with succeeding or winning most of the time.
The other issue is that the whole Rick and Morty learn to play nice together has already been done, dicarded and done again.
They have to start worldbuilding and making that stick. But another problem is that people expect every episode to say something groundbreaking and smart when that is just not feasible.
He wasn't really that much of a jackass in season 1, at least up to rick potion #9.
eh, he kinda was. he did what he wanted and didnt care too much about others.
He was a jackass but he wasnt an butthole. Rick being a jackass to Morty is the whole foundation of the show. I really dont think they can meaningfully change the dynamic of Rick condescendingly explaining shit to Morty without turning the show into something else. Honestly, Rick's potion #9 broke the show. It was meant to be a nihilistic point about the replaceability of people by simply swapping universes, but it just made characters inconsequential. The show could, right now, kill both Rick and Morty and show a new universe in which the only difference is that Rick and Morty did not die. There are no stakes when there are an infinite number of replacements to keep the narrative going.
The whole point initially is that Rick can only do it a few times. RP9 made it seem like the dimensions they could easily hop to are few, and it would look suspicious if they did it too many times
Rick was just characterized a lot harsher from that point on. People point to moments like him comforting Morty after he almost gets raped, or him and simulation Morty having a playfight with the cpu chips as out of character, but it really isn't if you watch the first five episodes by themselves. He wasn't really even that mean to Morty at that point.
Yeah, Rick in the early episodes is clearly not a good person to let around your 14 year old son, but really he was just callous and deranged.
To me at least there's more of a fun value of him just being an inappropriate caretaker who does whatever rather than some Harmon-ified butthole with trauma who acts like an emo boy or the writer's personal feelings depending on the episode
The improv tone was also better than the marvelesque constant quips. it sucked even in the prime rick episode. like do we need to have morty making some dumb joke while rick is confronting the guy who killed his wife?
Evil morty is just there to make Rick look dumb, there is no other point to his character in the new episode and bringing him on in the first place is a retcon. Also, what is even the point of making prime Rick original morty's actual grandfather if there is nothing coming out of that?
He's also not the "smartest man in the universe" by that point, he frequently fricks up, hell even Rick Potion 9 is unimaginable in the current series cause it's based on the conclusion that Rick's a MAD scientist just kinda fricking around and screwing things up. The show lost its way when it started power scaling Rick into being a god so it could smell it's own farts better, and the people b***hing about Rick Prime going down like a scrub cause of hubris in this thread prove it. I want to see a vulnerable Rick and Morty going forwards, I want to see them stumble and fail, and I'd like to see Rick being wrong more offten.
We really took season 1 for granite…
I want to see more mad scientist screw up Rick more often too, but not if it means evil Morty is filling the mary sue void left by Rick.
Perhaps we can move on, perhaps the show does not need a marry sue anymore
Hopefully, but the last episode really seems to be setting up evil Morty as this ultra genius master manipulator who is totally badass and doesnt take shit from anyone.
I want them both to be bumbling idiots from time to time. That's what helps sell the chaotic and unpredictable nature of the show's multiverse-trotting premise.
The premise of the show was always just soulless self-indulgent crap that would get old really fast. There is always a stupid Rick speech.
Rick is still very fallible and wrong, just a couple episodes ago he immediately died when he said he could handle being inside Jerry's mind. In Night Family, Summer defeated him. He's nowhere near where he was in season 4.
I don't consider the espidoes written by children's cartoon writers to be canon, anon.
Do you?
every episode is written by a children's cartoon writer because they're writing Rick and Morty
??
>Make Rick and Morty into likable people and not jackasses, idk
Pretty much way too late for that. They're pretty much beyond redemption at this point.
There's something up with the two crows. They're either one of the show's more baffling writing failures or they're setup for something we haven't seen yet further down the line. Most fans like Rickmurai Jack, but Forgetting Sarick Mortshall, and the way it connects with Rickmurai Jack as a two-parter, is so weird and obviously unnecessary. What did they mean by this?
>You're welcome by the way, I made you. I showed you and Adult Swim real mainstream success.
>And what did you do with it?
>Write shitty unfunny episodes? Raise echoes of *my* characters?
>What's your show without me?
>Admit it, you would've been #metoo'd as well.
>I just harassed those girls before you harassed them too.
>But eventually... you did! You harassed that Community writer!
>YOU SUCCEEDED FROM *MY* SHOW!
I like this kind of memeing, but it's inaccurate in this case. Harmon definitely did his harassment before Justin did.
Why did they replace his VA for this season if he already pre-recorded the lines?
So he wouldn't profit from it
… as much.
Yeah since he's still producing it feels a bit moronic, doesn't it?
Honestly if I ever become a big creator. Social Media is ONLY going to be used to give project updates and pictures of my dogs.
Is social media a requirement if you're a content creator? If you have an existing twitter account do you have to show it or something?
Can I not just be a content creator with a porn twitter with a different email on the side?
It wasn't social media that brought down Roiland, though, it was texts.
>texts
Twitter DMs, right? Because of thots he chatted up there, so I blame social media all the same.
Thanks God you'll end up as a sad loser no one cares about
Says anon to the mirror
god now I'm absolutely wondering how Justin would have sounded delivering those lines and we will never fricking find out.
I want to say not as good since he got 6 seasons to impress us and the best he managed was quietly saying "everything."
>the best he managed was quietly saying "everything."
What scene are you referring too?
Never mind, it's the end of the season 2 finale.
The Wedding Squanchers. "What are you in for?"
idk I liked how he sounded during the season 6 finale monologue, he can sound serious when he wants to be.
Do people really feel this way about Roiland's voice acting? The guy deserved to be fired, but I'm just shocked to see everyone shit on his voice acting lately and even claim it sounded "phoned in" for the later seasons. Roiland may have limited range when it comes to the number of distinct voices he can put on, but he's got a WIDE range of emotion within the 2 or 3 voices he specializes in. It surprised me to hear that he'd been recording from home these last few years 'cause I was consistently impressed by his voice acting. Moments that stood out to me S4 onward were any drunk Rick monologues, petty bickering between Rick and Morty, episodes where it's ONLY Rick and Morty like the Citadel finales or the Roy sequel, and of course the Planetina one. That's why I felt we were losing SOMETHING by his recasting, even if I am mostly content with the new guys so far.
Justin has his strengths and weaknesses as an actor. He's good at explosive outbursts, bickering, and subtly differentiating different Ricks and Mortys (to name a few). I don't even like The Vat of Acid Episode that much and he's great the whole way through. But he's never done genuine sadness very well at any degree of intensity. See: Planetina episode, Solaricks, Piss Master. And we've never heard him do anything like the chair scene in last week's episode. Maybe he did just as good as the new guy, but I can't fault people for suspecting the guy with professional acting training and credits did it better. Goddamn I wish we could hear the Roiland cut.
I still loved his Morty line reads to the very end. I think Roiland just couldn't make Rick believably somber, which makes sense. Morty's the emotional one. With Rick, it's sometimes hard to take his vulnerable moments seriously.
Where's that voiceclip leaker when you need him?
His cue to cry and be emotional as Morty in the Planetina episode was god awful. Remember, Roiland is a comedy guy first and he’s better suited to comedy deliveries, plus he only ever voiced shit in his own creations not counting guest spots in Adventure Time or whatever
Ian Cardoni, discounting how accurate his Rick is or not, had actual resumes in stage, theater, sitcoms, so he probably knows a thing or two more about emotional scenes than Roiland
Couple seasons ago I thought the show was out of good ideas and on the way down, but 6 and 7 have really surprised me. I'm pretty happy about the way the characters are being handled now.
>I'm pretty happy about the way the characters are being handled now.
season7 so far has literally just been repeats of shit, and not even timely ones. ep 4 was literally the space fart episode from season 1 with morty moralgayging, when he seemed pretty beyond that at this point in a way that felt unnatural for him to go back there. he should have been in the more blasé phase of not being too stunned by ricks shenanigans and being a bit peved. I dont mind episode 5 too much, but even then Morty wasn't that great.
Now he must become the villain since he lived long enough to be the hero. C-137 travel back in time to become Rick Prime.
Woah, it's so crazy how Rick finally accomplished his life goal... that wasn't even established until recently... this changes everything...
Not a massive deal, but one thing I thought was odd was that Evil morty is implied to be smarter than rick c137 here. And maybe alwaus has been since he decided to turn? when the whole thing with the infinite finite curve was that ricks are all the smartest beings in each of those universes. But evil morty came from one of those universes. so shouldnt he be less smart then our rick who is portrayed as secound only maybe to rick prime? I was ok with evil morty being just really sly and knowing how ricks think and exploiting that to get his out, made sense. But this one implies hes also a tech genius equal or greater than c137. With him fixing his shirt or being right on pace with him.
Evil morty is a mary sue, simple as. But of course anons will not complain about it as hard as they have complained about female mary sues in the past.
You refute yourself the moment you are an anon and you are complaining that morty is a mary sue
I just think it'd be more believable if the characters were allowed to age. Morty still being 14 at this point is ridiculous given all he's been through.
Or at least Morty in his twenties. Would be cool to see older versions of characters even though dan hambeast and justin roitard said they didn't want to ever
It would still be dumb for morty in his 20s to be able to outsmart prime Rick, supposedly the smartest being in the universe, while sustaining no actual injury, compromising nothing, getting everything he wants and humiliating our Rick while handing him the victory.
yeah, won't deny that
i think it's just hard for me to get invested in morty and summer at this point. the progression of plot without them aging makes it feel like they're both in stagnation while the world goes on.
it also kind of just limits them. like they can't be characters that grow, they have to perpetually remain dumb kids. even jerry had character development
The show has struggled with that for its whole run. When you have stakes of the sort of the destruction of everything and meddling in the multiverse, school drama just seems meaningless. Morty and Summer are supposed to be preteen and teen but writing them to be that in the face of all the shit Rick puts them through is just incoherent. A human being can only go through so many extreme experiences before they stop giving a frick. To put it simply, the show shot its load way to early and now nothing feels like it actually matters.
which is kinda why morty and summer should just be aged up at this point. you can't do generic highschool shit with them anymore since that stuff is small potatoes and jessica isn't endgame.
besides, more than one christmas has passed. morty and summer can have much more room to wiggle if they're not confined to a cartoon highschool and underdeveloped prefrontal cortexes
I mean, he wasn't smarter than Rick Prime, he needed Rick Primes blueprints for the big reality killer weapon. He beat Rick Prime cause of Rick Primes own hubris.
Rick Prime could have set the black ooze to insta kill Rick's that followed him, but he wanted to flex his superiority first.
Rick Prime could have created more robust security around his installations, but he wanted the fun of confronting Rick
Rick Prime could have just killed Rick and Evil Morty while fighting them, we see at the end it was all a game to him, but he wanted to frick with Rick more by giving him hope
Rick Prime could have killed his own Morty instantly, but he didn't see him as a threat, or Evil Morty as a threat, and left himself vulnerable.
Rick Prime was the Rickest Rick, and died to Rick's biggest character flaws, Ego, and Hubris.
Rick Prime is such a conceptually stupid character. He is just a dick for no reason just like Evil Morty. Honestly, they are various levels of dicks for no reason because the typical structure of these episodes is doing the morally correct thing always makes things worse.
Dick for no reason is perfectly fine in a vacuum. But this is an antagonist the show has been building up for a couple of seasons. Dick for no reason does not merit such a build up.
Evil Morty took over the Citadel and killed like 80% of Ricks & Mortys, how did Prime Rick not know about him?
He wasn't paying any attention anymore; he barely even knew who Jerry was when he met (and killed) Prime Jerry.
The Citadel was dead wife Rick's thing, Rick Prime never gave a shit. His only sign that something happened was when portal travel broke and Rick reset everyone to their original dimension, at which point he was focused on dodging Rick and building the omega device as a "frick you" to him.
When Rick and Morty hop dimensions to someplace that's almost exactly same as their old dimension does that just mean that all of the people they're replacing already exist or did all the shit that happened to them also happen there
So how do we feel about Evil Morty more or less giving Rick the win and letting him finish his revenge? The fact that he seems smarter and stronger than our Rick and Rick Prime is just so crazy to me. I do really like his character though.
he did it because Rick Prime was the bigger wild card and knew how to build the device. and he half expects c-137 to off himself and be out of his hair anyway
Evil morty is a mary sue.
he's not a Mary Sue, he's a foil. I find it pretty telling and pretty embarrassing that people think he's awesome for being pathologically apathetic and isolated. he's just Rick if Rick were ACTUALLY cynical and sheltered rather than simply masking his sentimentality and ego in a paper-thin veil
Evil morty is smarter than the smartest being in the universe while being apathetic, at best, about it, accomplishes everything he sets his mind to, he hands the protagonist the whin while humiliating him, he doesnt care about anything about the plot while successfully pursuing his own things. Yeah, he is pretty obviously a mary sue.
You clearly don't know what a mary sue is
Everything I have listed is indicative of a mary sue.
You missed the most important part
>Every character loves them, abandoning their own desires to bend to the Sue
>Even the narrative focuses and exalts the Sue
Which Evil Morty doesn't have.
Leia comforting Rey and not Chewie after Han died in Force Awakens is still my classic example of this in action.
Anon, evil sues are still mary sues. Not every character has to love evil Morty, and still he doesnt take shit from anyone and is never the butt of any joke ever.
>Even the narrative focuses and exalts the Sue
What part of winning at everything and getting everything did you not understand?
Nta and while I’m not sure I love him coming back but I think the fact they’ve built up and established Evil Morty for so many seasons he’s not a Mary Sue. He’s been outsmarting our Rick since his first appearance in season 1, took over the citadel, escaped the central finite curve, and invented his own portal technology. If a random character showed up and did everything Evil Morty did this episode, I might agree, but as it stands this isn’t that outside of what we know of the character.
Like Rick said. A wienery Morty leads to trouble.
Probably the reason why Rick doesn't train Morty to do stuff on his own and constantly beats down on him
Its one thing to outsmart Rick in certain settings that are not Rick's expertise, like politics or social situations. It is another thing entirely to know Rick's tech better tha he does and essentially hand him the victory over the thing he has shown to care the most about over the whole series. Character set up means nothing if evil Morty has never been shown to be a better scientist than Rick is and yet, that is what evil Morty is in this episode. While having the mroal high ground over Rick and having even more character agency than Rick has.
I'm tempted to rewatch the episode and maybe some others but I'm not sure Evil Morty is a better scientist than Rick so much as on the same level as him, which has been established since at least season 5 with the central finite curve escape and his own parallel portal tech. It's possible this was true from his introduction -- this episode suggests as much with him manipulating and taking control of his Rick with the eyepatch-- what with our Rick never suspecting that Evil Morty was actually the one killing the other Ricks. I think that points to what I got the sense of in this episode, Evil Morty is more effective than Rick when Rick is more attached to the situation and blinded by his ego/ attachments/anger etc. I'm also not convinced Evil Morty has the "moral high ground" in any meaningful sense. Sure, he mocks Rick for not feeling better after killing Rick Prime, but he also threatens him and was likely motivated in everything he did just to get the Omega Device. He isn't "better" than Rick as a person. I think it's the fact they're so similar that allows him to correct and comment on Rick. Sort of a "shouldn't you be better than this old man?" vibe.
Ëvil Morty isnt a mary sue yet, he is just another Rick with different motivations. He's morty with a bunch of dead rick's knowledge and maybe memories.
the only thing that sucks is how bizarrely naive regular morty has been written to make evil morty seem something more.
>he only thing that sucks is how bizarrely naive regular morty has been written to make evil morty seem something more.
He's fighting alongside Rick and Evil Morty, against Prime Rick. Of course he's gonna stand out and look weaker. How would you fare if you were in his shoes?
Rick didn't even want Morty there
>the only thing that sucks is how bizarrely naive regular morty has been written to make evil morty seem something more.
this, felt like they really played up that bit. I get him not being at their level, but they totally went hard into season 1 morty for a hard contrast.
yup. it wasnt even necessary. they could have had morty act like a smart ass or just gung ho about things without reverting him to another state of consciousness entirely.
he could stand out by simply being outclassed, that would be fine, but theres no reason to present a version of morty that suddenly has no experience being Morty for 7 seasons. it's lazy.
Evil Morty is not smarter than Rick, he outsmarts Rick because he knows his weaknesses, but he isnt as as intelligent
rick prime makes this strange assumption that 137 squandered portal technology by living at home and having a family.
what was rick prime doing that was so much different than anything any rick has ever done? what was his motivation even? why create a sad sack story for all the ricks instead of quietly guide ricks already on the verge of success?
that way some ricks keep their wife, others join him in a legit council of ricks, or one he guides behind the shadows. I mean, since he cares so much.
I dont see this changing too much really. which is kind of my point, rick already does whatever he wants, you could argue the family is there to keep him grounded.
Evil Morty has some bizarre space island habitat he hangs in with a butler. Oh wow, amazing. Rick Prime has some death egg hideout dedicated entirely to the ricks hunting him, including giant dead wife sentinels. Oh wow, mind warping.
time travel + memory erasure
100 years rick and morty
Tbh I found the theory of Evil Morty being our Rick’s original Morty more interesting than what they’re actually doing on the show nowadays.
I still remain firm on the idea that he should've been Rick's first (as like, first Morty he had as a sidekick/partner, not a bio grandson) Morty.
>11 months before he went to Prime Rick's dimension to restart the hunt, he had a large falling out with EM due to him getting too "wienery" and and left him and Dimension 79⊢⊇V
>A far worse Rick moves into EM's reality to take the vacant spot C-137 left, seeing it as free spot.
>He genuinely doesn't give a shit about Morties, just like most Ricks, sees them as completely expandable, but is much more sadistic and unnecessarily cruel, and enjoys flaunting around his superiority over everyone more than most Ricks do
>Due to being far more abusive (even physically), manipulative, and controlling, he eventually ends ups doing something to EM that outright shatters the camels back.
>EM, now long past his breaking point, plots to premeditatedly murder him like in canon.
>He uses any brain boosting objects like Snuffles helmet or something else this Rick carelessly left lying around that could enhance intellect to create his cybernetic eyepatch and mind controlling wires.
>Later tries to incapacitate this Rick while he's off-guard by getting him drunk.
>The Rick actually fights back, despite his drunken state
>EM nearly loses, but knocks him out in a nick of time
>Uses stolen tech from this Rick to surgically saw open his head and insert the wires
>Using the mind controlling tech, he represses this Ricks consciousness and makes his own mind dominant
>Gains access to this Rick's intellect, due to now being able to tap into his brain and mind
>It also allows him to access this Ricks memories, allowing him to discover what the CFC really is.
>Makes plans on killing more Ricks and taken their intellect and knowledge, soon goes the same route as canon
As for C-137 deciding to live with Evil Morty in the first place, he wanted to try out the Morty idea, and see if it was worth his time and could use a base of sorts.
why are random Cinemaphiletards much better writers than a bunch of professionals that get paid to write
Evil Morty gives me the impression of a Morty who's been through a lot of Ricks. Certainly, I don't think the one he overpowered was his first. He already had some preexisting familiarity with the Citadel and expected he had a record with them that he'd want removed.
who the frick raised beth? why are there memories of c-137 rick attending Beth’s wedding and holding baby morty if he didn’t show up until he was 14?
???? Also how are all ricks friends the same exact versions throughout each universe change?
>who the frick raised beth?
Diane for years before Rick Prime killed her for good.
>why are there memories of c-137 rick attending Beth’s wedding and holding baby morty if he didn’t show up until he was 14?
Rick dropped in on another Beth.
>???? Also how are all ricks friends the same exact versions throughout each universe change?
Some of them are probably from other universes. Birdperson is the big problem since he’s confirmed to be from the same universe due to the Federation. I guess Rick doesn’t care about switching to a different version of him if he has to abandon the whole universe?
what did we think of them reusing Look On Down From The Bridge?
Who's "we"? Stop outsourcing your opinions to Cinemaphile and learn to think for yourself, homosexual.
people engaging in discussion of an episode? Fine, I guess I'll go first. I didn't like it. Felt lazy.
It felt cheap. Get new material.
Honestly forgot they used it before, but it you have the music license might as well milk it all you can.
I know they were buttholes but did anyone else feel a little sorry for Evil Rick and Rick Prime? You can't blame Evil Morty for turning on his Rick but seeing the look of terror on the latter's face as he was about to get swarmed by the mob of Mortys in addition to outright screaming to be put out of his misery was a pitiful way to go out. And as evil as Rick Prime was, watching his face slowly reduced to a bloody pulp was too graphic to really take cathartic joy in. Not trying to sound like I'm complaining because I found it to be a raw scene and he did have it coming but all I'm saying is that perhaps the animalistic way the violence is portrayed is supposed to add to the theme of vengeance making you less of a person. Or maybe I'd feel differently if Rick Prime was revealed to have been real as well as given more screentime much earlier in the show because I don't think there's really that many people out there who were cheering during his beating. We all might as well be like Evil Morty in the situation, simply brought on board for the ride despite not having much stake in the conflict.
>did anyone else feel a little sorry for Evil Rick and Rick Prime?
No
you know what i just fricking realized
Harmon got fired from his own show once, resulting in a crummy season that wasted what was left of the cast members who left afterward
and he learned NOTHING from that experience
So Fear no Mort is practically confirmed to be another Evil Morty episode, right?
Yes; now that we've seen outside of the Central Finite Curve, we have more context as to what the promo image could be. Moreover, I wouldn't be surprised if it was another Rick Prime episode, too, and overall a very direct followup to Unmortricken. Unmortricken and Fear No Mort are the only episodes in the series with a title negating either Rick or Morty. (UNmortricken, Fear NO Mort.) We can also expect the episode to revolve around something called the "Fear Hole", teased in some merchandise that they might not have meant to release yet.
>we have more context as to what the promo image could be
wasn't a forest? Is Rick going to get killed by Bigfoot like that alien foresaw?
That's the season's penultimate episode, Mort Ragnarick. Pic related is Fear No Mort.
I hope is a Evil Morty solo episode
It's a reference to the movie Fear No Evil
>Teenager is the son of Satan and he's plotting a demonic uprising, while a teen girl and a local old woman are actually angels sent to stop him.
>Fear Hole
come again?
Exciting
That explains the hole on the promo image, I guess.
Looks harmless but isn't, wants to be a normie, socially awkward, doormat due to his empathy/low self-esteem.
Why'd they put so much emphasis on the spaghetti episode for the advertising this year? The frick's going on the rest of the season?
>bigfoot is real
oh nonononon
FRICKING GAMESTOP
>gave up on killing some guy
>go back to wanting to kill him
>kills him
Seriously, he should just go back to doing whatever family stuff. There is literally nothing to stop him from having a good life. Seriously, why can't anyone in this show just do the right thing without being shit on? Why is anything done or said by Rick Prime is treated as something that makes sense for anyone to do? Why can't Rick actually raise Morty to be smart and responsible? Why can't he just use his science for good?
>SCHOPENHAUer
>outside of Cinemaphile
holy fricking based anon
We got our next cold open. Pretty much the same as the promo though.
>link is fricked
May God forgive me for linking to Reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/rickandmorty/comments/17xigk5/s7e6_rickfending_your_mort_cold_open/
These. I'm still mad they took wacky, actual mad scientist Rick from us.
Tricia Lange is too hot to stay so underutilized…
We're getting a couple of high-school-focused episodes soon, so we'll see if the writers still have plans for her. They probably do; I think they planned out broad strokes for the whole 70 episode order at once, and they were pushing her hard in season 4 when the school was more in focus.
>We're getting a couple of high-school-focused episodes soon
I so don't care about Morty's high-school life.
Well I do since they're so adamant about sticking to their sliding timeline and keeping him 14 for whatever reason.
An explanation about that would make for a good episode.
They'll never explain it or anything. Just expect more teases and fakeouts like Summer turning 18 or going to college for a quick 10-second joke.
>Trips of Truth
An ep with her trying to seduce Jerry would redeem this season
This episode made me want to try beekeeping
Well that and I got a bunch of youtube videos recommending it and how delicious fresh honey is and how you can influence the taste of it by planting different flowers for the bee's
Bitches love bees and beekeeping. It's a proven fact.
so that's why you just need to bee yourself huh
If nothing else, the end tags have stayed funny season after season.
I like that they included the graves of their past selves
I want her to kick my balls
I want Tricia to shove her stripper breasts in my face. The one thing I ask of Wet Kuat Amortican Summer is that she make an appearance.
You turn that shit off and go watch an actually good show.
Such as… ?
>my genuine reaction
Rick and Patchy share the same VA
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>Eso es todo?
>Ese es el final de la saga de Rick Prime?
>Era solo Rick golpeando a Rick Prime hasta la muerte.
>Que Decepción
>GRRRRR DAN HARMON NOS TRAICIONO
You think that all the character's that wear a cross having stripper breasts is a coincidence or on purpose? Might just be a way to reuse art assets.
Christians and Fallen Angels in a nutshell.
More recent draculas are him being infected with fallen angel dna with the original Dracula being the brother of Satan/Lucifer.
>More recent draculas
Got an example?
I forget what this game was called, so sauce?
Rick and Morty Another Way Home
aka the goat
Female Rick
Early review for next episode:
>Last week’s episode was big, it featured a showdown with Rick and Rick Prime and also featured the return of the Evil Morty, so this week’s episode “Rickfending Your Mort” has big shoes to fill.
>And I’m happy to tell you that it does.
>The episode is pretty much Morty’s Mind Blowers 2, if you don’t remember the episode “Morty’s Mind Blowers” from season 3, it was like a clip show but in the form of Morty’s memories.
>This episode will be a great time for everyone, fun jokes, references, and great side characters, they also call themselves out for the Rick and Morty cameo in Space Jam: A New Legacy.
>So after a rough start to the season, I think the show is starting to find its feet again and I hope this continues for the rest of the season, so on Sunday just sit back, Relax and enjoy what I think is a great episode.
>
https://thehollywoodhandle.co/2023/animated/rick-morty-season-7-episode-6-back-on-track/
The last point was supposed to be four alt code stars.
>Morty’s Mind Blowers 2
I can dig it
Are they just gonna give screeners for every episode this season? I thought that was only reserved for the first 2-3 episodes and that's it. Rick and Morty is already big enough that it doesn't need internet reviewers to shill it.
I thought it was weird too, but I'll take it.
>Morty’s Mind Blowers 2
So garbage filler, got it.
Screencap this
Diane is the final villain and she faked her death and left with their daughter because she was sick of the patriarchy and rick not fighting for more women in stem
I was surprised when we saw Evil Morty's idea of paradise being alone in chaos with some robot butler.
I honestly thought Evil Morty's whole plan was to go to a completely 100% normal universe. Normal family, no aliens, no magic, nothing like that at all. And that version of Rick being either dead or an actual normal grandpa
Feels like alot of people assumed he'd have a harem of Jessicas or at least one Jessica but it looks like he's on the Stigma grindset.
It's 2023; you can't depict a Morty being heterosexual on television anymore.
They literally do tho
Are they really so against letting Morty have friends even after all his development and built-up confidence throughout the show? He's an average 14-year-old in the same way Summer is an average 17-year-old, and she's been shown to have friends long after they stopped doing high school stories. We really are owed that upcoming high school episode because it's such a mystery how that aspect of the kids' lives would play out even in a 30-second gag. Who even ARE Morty and Summer outside of the house or Rick's adventures?
The idea that Morty is still 14 year olds will never not be moronic
He should be 15-16 by now. It has been "One year since Rick arrived" in fricking season 2
Same with Summer they had her be 18 in Season 3 but then reverted her back to 17 in Season 4 due to lazy writing. Rick and Morty isn't the kind of how that benefits from a floating timeline like the Simpsons
Yeah, it's stupid. And it would have been really easy to do something like 'Oh Morty's voice is different now because something something puberty', but i guess so much as mentioning something related to roiland is forbidden because he's been declared damnatio memoriae or something.
I could see the writers wanting to make an off-hand reference at some point in a later season, but it's just as likely that Harmon and several people who've been there since the early seasons would find it too sensitive of a thing to joke about. We won't know for sure unless it actually happens.
NOTHING MATTERS, TIME ISN’T REALL, LICK MY BALLS MORTY
We're starving for a High School ep. Last one with a semi high school story was back in Season 5 with Bruce "The Chut" Chutback
HASN'TDONEANYTHINGEMBARRASSINGYET
Invincible is wiping the floor with Mid n Snorty
More incest
Now Rick loses to the doctor.
aw jeez
Also, Dan's interns, I know you're here making and bumping these fricking threads.
Tell Dan he's a fat pedophile
Justin's the pedophile tho. Dan's just a fat narcissist.
He becomes good rick and redeems himself
Not anymore because he would’ve rickdeemed himself if you were a hack but now for that he’ll rickgress.
that's rickdicolous tbqh
Plot twist, yo.
He lives, with Prime's Grandson, a mirror version of his wife, her clone, her daughter and an alternate version of her husband. Just a family of interdimensional travelers.
rick does morty mind blasters on himself to get back jerrick memories to wubalubadubdub the next bad boy thanos. morty has sex with evil morty
broh
Morty finds out that he had sex with summer from the incest dimension and he fell in love with it.
>time travel stuff
you think Rick is might go back in time?
He killed a sex groomer/child molester we're saved
>Whole point of Evil Morty is that 'he fricked off from the story'
>They even make a 'le self aware joke why are u back you were cool from fricking off'
So sad
Tired of this Gary stu now
The concept was cool in the beginning but his own popularity killed his character
Ideally the show should end with Rick C137 killing his adoptive family and Morty.
It ends
Will there be mother daughter incest kissing?
What happened to all the megas? I've been sort of checking the threads and looking in the archives, are they not allowed to be posted anymore? Also there hasn't been a cartoon thread on /wsg/ either.
Or a ygyl on /gif/.
mega-begging is a zoomer thing. Don't be a zoomer.
I'm not begging, obviously torrents are available. Just wondering if they are being banned or reported or something because they used to be a lot more common.
I've been in every live thread and they aren't even getting posted.
Another anon was uploading to a different filehost. Keep your eyes peeled in the next thread.
The tripgay who used to post them probably got sick of the show and dropped it.
its kinda moronic to post megas when they are going to get deleted at the end of the day, just torrent, its way easier and faster (in torrent galaxy it gets posted about 5 to 6 minutes after the episode is out)
Is Rick and Morty airing another season now?
I was thinking about something. Prior to this episode we never really saw any other Ricks going after Prime besides C-137. I imagine most of the ones who took his portal tech and operated with the Citadel didn't have the motivation for it even though he killed their wives too. But after "evil" Morty killed off all the Citadel associated Ricks all that's left now are the ones that are closer to C-137 and Prime. In fact given the huge amount of culling that's been done wouldn't most of the newly formed Ricks being generated now be closer to C-137? Seems like on a multiverse scale they're naturally selecting for the Ricks that are the most competent and the ones closest to C-137 within the central finite curve.
I dunno. Maybe the writers don't care, or the central finite cure doesn't work like that.