normies think being evil is cool and doing crime together is romantic
not many act on it because laws n shiet, but they will defend chad and his criminal record
Normies are unthinking media slaves who simply emulate what they see on tv.
it'd be cool if "normal" and its derivatives held its actual meaning.
Was there a string of copycat mass murder sprees with 1990s normies quitting their 1990s normie jobs at Sears and KMart to drive cars around the people and shoot and kill everyone leaving only one witness?
There wasn't?
Normal people don't do that?
It's actually abnormal behavior to completely emulate violent acts of fiction that one saw in TV or in movies? Whoops!
anon the point isn't that when normbots see spree killers they turn into spree killers
the point is they try to ape whatever criminal gets shown to them if the movie/tv show makes them look good. like for example how morons try to emulate the peaky blinders look/attitude, putting the godfather theme as their ringtones, pretending like mob movie characters are admirable because they're "real men" or "have honor" or some shit like that, getting obsessed with illegal street racing because of the fast and furious movies, etc. etc. sorry my examples aren't more recent but i'm out of touch with more recent expressions of this phenomenon.
these are all things that are done by people who lead normal lives have normal families and relationships and are ostensibly better adjusted to society than most people on this website.
Ironically it is actually normal behavior for normies to reinvent and bend words, including normie, to lose their original and literal meaning, like literally. The person you are replying to who uses the word normie derogatory to refer to abnormal and unthinking people is actually a normie because like a true normie he doesn't care about actual meanings of words and considers such stickling for accuracy to be autistic in nature.
>have minor argument >cheat on your boyfriend >murder the man you just cheated with >HE WAS A SK8R BOI >SHE SAID C U L8R BOI >HE WASNT GOOD ENOUGH FOR HER
dunno, but for all the shittalking tarantino gave NBK, he sure emulated a bunch of stuff from the movie (with less gusto) afterwards >hired Bob Richardson as his main DP starting with Kill Bill >cast Juliette Lewis in his next project (despite threatening Steve Buscemi and Tim Roth with never casting them again if they took a part in NBK)(assuming he had control over that since it was Rodriguez that directed that but pretty sure Tarantino could have nixed if he so wanted) >used the black and white/color switcheroo in Death Proof >inserted anime in Kill Bill
turns out Stone did it before (and better than) QT though. sucks for QT
even the little media satire scene in from dusk til dawn (one year after) is more juvenile than NBK
there's just one mention of black and white 16mm film being used by wayne gale's crew for the prison interview. if that was the inception of the idea, Stone took it to a whole another level with his movie (in a way that is fitting with the material too, it really seems out of nowhere in Kill Bill and Death Proof)
obviously no mention of anime or animation being used in QT's draft either, as it was conceived as an ultra-low budget movie before tarantino abandoned the project and Stone got involved
if you want to point out things i forgot, knock yourself out:
https://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/natural-born-killers_early.html
8 months ago
Anonymous
Intresting read. Pretty good script, compared to most shit amateur writer pushed out today. I'm halfway through I think. That being said, Stone and his cowriters idea for this film is so much better than whatever QT wrote. QT's story is just way too unfocused, and something so ridiculous, yet so violent needs to have a more overtly cartoonish and comedic tone. I'm on the page with the fake movie trailer so far. Wayne's character so far feels like the protagonist (even though Scagnetti.is the protagonist I think).
I genuinely don't like NBK, but I feel like that mainly due to Stone's schizophrenic style of editing. It kind of makes the film exhausting and unwatchable. If you had someone who can do satire and dark comedy very well ike Verhouven or Mary Harron, I feel you could have a much more enjoyable film.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>schizophrenic style of editing.
I think that's one of the major selling points Iirc it had the world record on the amount of edits in a movie. I can see how that distracts peeople who aren't used to the mtv-style. But there's also a concept behind it. The layers of cinematography trying to depict different states of reality: what's happening, what people are thinking, what they feel, what their morale compass lies, what's happened/going to happen, etc. Like Resnais with Last Year at Marienbat, Stone tried to reimagine how one could depict the humans perception of the world.
It's just that it is done in such a chaotic way that it becomes uncomprehensible the first watch and ignored thereafter. There's been very few bigbudget mainstream-geared movies produced thereafter that has ambition to create a cinematic experience through experimental editing/cinematography (all I can think if are Gasspar Noes film and perhaps Akerlunds Spun if it counts) and that is kinda sad.
8 months ago
Anonymous
The anime scene in Kill Bill comes from Lady Snowblood, certainly not NBK.
jane hamsher, she bought nbk's script with her partner don murphy from quentin tarantini just before he broke out with reservoir dogs. eventually jane hamsher got oliver stone involved in the production and quentin backstabbed jane a few times during the NBK production and publicity. read "killer instinct" by jane hamsher if you can find it, pretty entertaining book about the making of the film, whatever your opinion on the film, and a very unflattering portrait of QT. also i believe this book lead QT to assault and punch Don Murphy in a restaurant after the book publication
After True Romance, Quentin Tarantino wrote a script about a reporter tagging along with cops chasing down a spree killer couple based on Starkweather and Fugate.
The script got bought by Stones production company built Stone, inspired by the media coverage of OJ and a string of garriah high profile crimes featured in tabloid news shows like Hard Copy, decided to rewrite QTs script to make the killers the good guys and the media the villains.
not sure that's an accurate TL;DR, having read QT's published script draft of NBK and jane hamsher's account of the production of the movie. it's more like Stone restructured QT's script and added the stuff after the opening cafe massacre and before Mickey's inprisonment. nowhere in QT's draft does wayne gale tag along with Mickey and mallory.
>jane hamsher's account of the production of the movie
Killer Instinct
great behind the scenes read of a crazy production, everyone on mushrooms, Stone blasting loud tribal musical to get everyone on edge, and some funny takedowns of QT
True Romance and NBK were initially both one script that Roger Avary had started and abandoned called The Open Road, that Tarantino took over and expanded dramatically. It was Clarence and Alabama's story with Mickey and Mallory's happening in parallel and the two eventually crossing paths, but it got so unwieldy that he split it into two scripts. The Hard Copy stuff was always in the NBK script, it wasn't added by Stone. Tarantino's script is the diner scene, the Hard Copy segment, and then everything that happens from when they get put in jail.
How anyone stomach this awful way of shooting and editing? >Random dutch angle >Black and white shot >Color shot >All cut every 3-5 seconds
Does every Oliver Stone film use this same weird style?
NBK is his most extreme in that sense I think, I have not seen them all
I know JFK and Nixon both also do funky things cutting to grainy 16mm or 8mm b/w handheld shots in the middle of scenes sometimes
JFK, it was to evoke the feel of the Zapruder film into the narrative, and made sense
Not sure what the idea was here, except to make the film as mad as its protagonists
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Not sure what the idea was here
Channel surfing
8 months ago
Anonymous
but did the whole movie need to feel like channel surfing? It was a 10/10 for me as a teen, but now I think it suffers from overload
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Overload
That was the whole idea, wasn't it? It's a movie about media overwhelming reality. In the end they break their "leave one witness alive" rule because Wayne Gale has recorded their entire escapade and his camera has superceded him as a human. The movie was written by a guy for whom movies were realer than real life, and Stone recognized that immediately and made it the subject of his movie. That's why I think Tarantino hates this movie so much, it's about people just like him, and Stone took his own artistic thesis as far as it could go before anyone had even seen any of Quentin's work.
8 months ago
Anonymous
meant for
but did the whole movie need to feel like channel surfing? It was a 10/10 for me as a teen, but now I think it suffers from overload
8 months ago
Anonymous
Thank you, anon. I'll check out JFK and Platoon, since they seem like his most mainstream popular films. NBK was probably just not a good note to start on, for me.
might just be praise from other buttholes but a lot of comics spoke of rodney as a stand-up friend and sensitive guy. he deffo was into coke and hookers though but he was so transparent about it that he likely wasn't into any sick shit
it was on the soundtrack cd back in the day, i think the piano loop is extended in the movie and the soundtrack compared to the original song on the nine inch nails album.
qt wrote the script to direct himself as an ultra low budget movie before he broke out with reservoir dogs. oliver stone restructured his script, consolidated all the good stuff and added basically everything between the opening scene and the jail stuff
I remember that now, that movie was le edge and a bit much for me. I used to love it then I grew to hate the glorification of violence. Then I stop moralgayging and enjoy the cartoon like environment and story. It was a bit hamfisted in its satire, I was too young to remember how adults reacted to it at the time of release. Did people get it or was there a moral panic?
depends on who you ask, 50/50 if you ask me. it was overshadowed by pulp fiction which had won cannes the previous may and came out a few weeks after nbk. most kids liked it, some adults gave it a shot because of oliver stone's reputation with born on the 4th of july and jfk (serious adult movies) and most likely hated it. there was some controversy but not as much as jfk a few years before and nbk was old news by christmas
There were multiple white trash murdering couples who claimed they watched it, got inspired, smoked weed and the killed some poor fricks along the Interstate.
Weren't the Columbine shooters "inspired" by this movie as well or was that hysteria?
There were multiple white trash murdering couples who claimed they watched it, got inspired, smoked weed and the killed some poor fricks along the Interstate.
qt wrote the script to direct himself as an ultra low budget movie before he broke out with reservoir dogs. oliver stone restructured his script, consolidated all the good stuff and added basically everything between the opening scene and the jail stuff
he starred in kingpin the next year, then was the lead in a milos forman film (larry flint). everyone involved in nbk took some flak from some puritan circles but woody did fine, if anything it raised his profile, movie was a hit money wise
i don't know, i'm not his agent, but kingpin was the farrely brothers' follow up to one of the biggest comedy hits of the decade (dumb and dumber). it's not like he went from NBK to straight-to-video movies and infomercials.
actually woody followed up NBK with "sunchaser" which was direct-to-video but that's more due to michael cimino being a diva and completely fricking up his own movie and alienating the studio and the producers with his antics
don't see it. maybe from dusk til dawn 1st half is more qt revisiting this kind of material via robert rodriguez but even then there's a lot of differences and i think the FDTD script gestation predates stone's movie
man bites dog (c'est arrivé près de chez vous) 1992. probably a better satire about media covering up a serial killer although it's a random documentary film crew instead of mainstream TV.
movie is on youtube if you can into subtitles
>this literally made millennials lose their minds and wear trench coats and circle sunglasses >This made millenials larp as the characters in the movie and un-alive their fellow classmates
Those are mostly real prisoners as the extras. The movie was shot in an actively operating prison. Supposedly all the inmates really wanted to frick RDJ and would catcall him constantly.
i saw this in theater with gf it was our 2nd or 3rd date. she kept wanting to leave but i made us see it through . fricking kino then and still holds up today.
I think zoomies who consider stuff like this edgy don't know anything about 70s movies. And I mean, the Saw movies are considered mainstream but THIS is considered edgy? I don't get it.
damn I found a thread from 1997 discussing the QT assaulting Don Murphy in a restaurant incident, it's interesting seeing an internet argument from 26 years ago, almost to the day
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.fan.tarantino/c/AQEV8SCfDFE?pli=1
Jesus Harold Christ, the homosexuals shitting on NBK in this thread simply have no idea. This movie was so hyped, so controversial, and so PROPHETIC when it came out. It's simultaneously a critique, and also the very thing it is critiquing. You'll never know the feeling of being a kid in the '90's seeing this ridiculous shit play out on screen, hating and loving it at the same time.
If it seems tame today, it's only because it hastened and glorified the shit culture we've become. Everything changed when Natural Born Killers came out, normies became free and unashamed to wallow in our collective sin. Young women were free to be tramp-stamped prostitutes, and the president creampied a fat israeli intern and smilingly lied to our faces about it. This movie is the ultimate "frick you" to the trash civilization we've created.
>t. mid 40's old gay, first time seeing it as a teenager I walked out of the theater at the "I Love Malory" segment.
>those green colors >that duggieaddict feel >that anime-insert >the biblical impact of snakes >Raznor findig a perfect match of to the scene with a mix of gabriels taboo >that fattie normie not getting any of it >it all ends with a pair of chopped breasts
It's basically a standard oliver stone >start with a really cool high concept and theme >film a few visionary scenes around that idea >forget what you were doing, film most of 3 other sorta-related movies >say frick it, wrap, and then try to put something coherent together in editing >forget what you were doing in the editing room, leave in a bunch of superfluous shit and some incoherently sequenced scenes >end up with a film that's an overlong, poorly paced mess but has just enough of the original ideas showing through that people can see the potential >half the reviewers gush over the movie that might have been instead of what they got
it was an entertaining flick but it's scary there are actual dumb normies who copy things like this
the satire in NBK is pretty flawed and self-defeating but the movie made a point to address people like that
>watch Mickey and Mallory
They're just like me!
>see these homosexuals
Oh wait.
>normies who copy things like this
>normies
in what sense is it normal/normie behavior
normies think being evil is cool and doing crime together is romantic
not many act on it because laws n shiet, but they will defend chad and his criminal record
it'd be cool if "normal" and its derivatives held its actual meaning.
Was there a string of copycat mass murder sprees with 1990s normies quitting their 1990s normie jobs at Sears and KMart to drive cars around the people and shoot and kill everyone leaving only one witness?
There wasn't?
Normal people don't do that?
It's actually abnormal behavior to completely emulate violent acts of fiction that one saw in TV or in movies? Whoops!
Why are you like this? Can you just be less soi, in how you talk?
>soi
what is this, French?
anon the point isn't that when normbots see spree killers they turn into spree killers
the point is they try to ape whatever criminal gets shown to them if the movie/tv show makes them look good. like for example how morons try to emulate the peaky blinders look/attitude, putting the godfather theme as their ringtones, pretending like mob movie characters are admirable because they're "real men" or "have honor" or some shit like that, getting obsessed with illegal street racing because of the fast and furious movies, etc. etc. sorry my examples aren't more recent but i'm out of touch with more recent expressions of this phenomenon.
these are all things that are done by people who lead normal lives have normal families and relationships and are ostensibly better adjusted to society than most people on this website.
Ironically it is actually normal behavior for normies to reinvent and bend words, including normie, to lose their original and literal meaning, like literally. The person you are replying to who uses the word normie derogatory to refer to abnormal and unthinking people is actually a normie because like a true normie he doesn't care about actual meanings of words and considers such stickling for accuracy to be autistic in nature.
t. evil normie internet defense force
it'd be nice wouldn't it? but 'normie' is really just a placeholder for 'outgroup' in every context, it's tiresome
Normies is anybody who isn't Here
>arrrgh why don't they consider following the rules cool?
exactly
it makes me seethe
I don't know, darkie, why don't they
Normies are unthinking media slaves who simply emulate what they see on tv.
>nooo please don't murder guyz
go back
>have minor argument
>cheat on your boyfriend
>murder the man you just cheated with
Women.
>>have minor argument
brother woody harrelson was trying to frick their hostage or whoever that random girl was tied up in the hotel room
But was he doing it to get back at someone else and was he going murder her afterwards for the fun of it? Because thats what she did.
>But was he doing it to get back at someone else
Probably, his dad I think. Wasn't he also molested or whatever
damn she murdered someone?
never seen that happen in the movie until that point
and yeah he raped & killed that girl
Hostage was hotter.
yeah she was hotter than the car mechanic dude, but that seems like besides the point
>have minor argument
>cheat on your boyfriend
>murder the man you just cheated with
>HE WAS A SK8R BOI
>SHE SAID C U L8R BOI
>HE WASNT GOOD ENOUGH FOR HER
>66
Why did I think Tarantino directed this.
dunno, but for all the shittalking tarantino gave NBK, he sure emulated a bunch of stuff from the movie (with less gusto) afterwards
>hired Bob Richardson as his main DP starting with Kill Bill
>cast Juliette Lewis in his next project (despite threatening Steve Buscemi and Tim Roth with never casting them again if they took a part in NBK)(assuming he had control over that since it was Rodriguez that directed that but pretty sure Tarantino could have nixed if he so wanted)
>used the black and white/color switcheroo in Death Proof
>inserted anime in Kill Bill
Because all that shit was his ideas in the first place and qt did all that shit better.
turns out Stone did it before (and better than) QT though. sucks for QT
even the little media satire scene in from dusk til dawn (one year after) is more juvenile than NBK
Black person it was all in qts script moron
Not to this complete spoof-tier extent. And the script was mostly from Scagnetti's perspective too.
Scagnetti, really? more like Wayne Gale
there's just one mention of black and white 16mm film being used by wayne gale's crew for the prison interview. if that was the inception of the idea, Stone took it to a whole another level with his movie (in a way that is fitting with the material too, it really seems out of nowhere in Kill Bill and Death Proof)
obviously no mention of anime or animation being used in QT's draft either, as it was conceived as an ultra-low budget movie before tarantino abandoned the project and Stone got involved
if you want to point out things i forgot, knock yourself out:
https://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/natural-born-killers_early.html
Intresting read. Pretty good script, compared to most shit amateur writer pushed out today. I'm halfway through I think. That being said, Stone and his cowriters idea for this film is so much better than whatever QT wrote. QT's story is just way too unfocused, and something so ridiculous, yet so violent needs to have a more overtly cartoonish and comedic tone. I'm on the page with the fake movie trailer so far. Wayne's character so far feels like the protagonist (even though Scagnetti.is the protagonist I think).
I genuinely don't like NBK, but I feel like that mainly due to Stone's schizophrenic style of editing. It kind of makes the film exhausting and unwatchable. If you had someone who can do satire and dark comedy very well ike Verhouven or Mary Harron, I feel you could have a much more enjoyable film.
>schizophrenic style of editing.
I think that's one of the major selling points Iirc it had the world record on the amount of edits in a movie. I can see how that distracts peeople who aren't used to the mtv-style. But there's also a concept behind it. The layers of cinematography trying to depict different states of reality: what's happening, what people are thinking, what they feel, what their morale compass lies, what's happened/going to happen, etc. Like Resnais with Last Year at Marienbat, Stone tried to reimagine how one could depict the humans perception of the world.
It's just that it is done in such a chaotic way that it becomes uncomprehensible the first watch and ignored thereafter. There's been very few bigbudget mainstream-geared movies produced thereafter that has ambition to create a cinematic experience through experimental editing/cinematography (all I can think if are Gasspar Noes film and perhaps Akerlunds Spun if it counts) and that is kinda sad.
The anime scene in Kill Bill comes from Lady Snowblood, certainly not NBK.
>used the black and white/color switcheroo in Death Proof
my brother, Wizard of Oz did that first(?)
that wasn't the point but i see your brain is fried so nevermind
Because he wrote it
Who tf is jane
jane hamsher, she bought nbk's script with her partner don murphy from quentin tarantini just before he broke out with reservoir dogs. eventually jane hamsher got oliver stone involved in the production and quentin backstabbed jane a few times during the NBK production and publicity. read "killer instinct" by jane hamsher if you can find it, pretty entertaining book about the making of the film, whatever your opinion on the film, and a very unflattering portrait of QT. also i believe this book lead QT to assault and punch Don Murphy in a restaurant after the book publication
tarantella doesn't have the talent for this KINO
Filtered hard
The TL;DR is this.
After True Romance, Quentin Tarantino wrote a script about a reporter tagging along with cops chasing down a spree killer couple based on Starkweather and Fugate.
The script got bought by Stones production company built Stone, inspired by the media coverage of OJ and a string of garriah high profile crimes featured in tabloid news shows like Hard Copy, decided to rewrite QTs script to make the killers the good guys and the media the villains.
not sure that's an accurate TL;DR, having read QT's published script draft of NBK and jane hamsher's account of the production of the movie. it's more like Stone restructured QT's script and added the stuff after the opening cafe massacre and before Mickey's inprisonment. nowhere in QT's draft does wayne gale tag along with Mickey and mallory.
>jane hamsher's account of the production of the movie
Killer Instinct
great behind the scenes read of a crazy production, everyone on mushrooms, Stone blasting loud tribal musical to get everyone on edge, and some funny takedowns of QT
True Romance and NBK were initially both one script that Roger Avary had started and abandoned called The Open Road, that Tarantino took over and expanded dramatically. It was Clarence and Alabama's story with Mickey and Mallory's happening in parallel and the two eventually crossing paths, but it got so unwieldy that he split it into two scripts. The Hard Copy stuff was always in the NBK script, it wasn't added by Stone. Tarantino's script is the diner scene, the Hard Copy segment, and then everything that happens from when they get put in jail.
Killing Zoe was kino, but aside from that I can't even remember any of his other movies or projects.
KZ is extremely underrated, one of my favorites. He also wrote Silent Hill and directed The Rules of Attraction (aka American Psycho 2, lol)
>quality-posting on Cinemaphile
NGMI
Truly the low point of woody harrelsons career
wrong
Kino
How anyone stomach this awful way of shooting and editing?
>Random dutch angle
>Black and white shot
>Color shot
>All cut every 3-5 seconds
Does every Oliver Stone film use this same weird style?
>calling some bad
>admits to not even having seen any Oliver Stone movies
Oh good, the Anon Who Doesn't Know Shit finally made it!
I watched NBK. There were multiple times I almost turn the film off due to the nonsensical editing.
I'm just asking if most of Stones's movies have the same style? If so, I'll avoid them.
>I want other people to decide what I watch for me
You don't belong here
NBK is his most extreme in that sense I think, I have not seen them all
I know JFK and Nixon both also do funky things cutting to grainy 16mm or 8mm b/w handheld shots in the middle of scenes sometimes
JFK, it was to evoke the feel of the Zapruder film into the narrative, and made sense
Not sure what the idea was here, except to make the film as mad as its protagonists
>Not sure what the idea was here
Channel surfing
but did the whole movie need to feel like channel surfing? It was a 10/10 for me as a teen, but now I think it suffers from overload
>Overload
That was the whole idea, wasn't it? It's a movie about media overwhelming reality. In the end they break their "leave one witness alive" rule because Wayne Gale has recorded their entire escapade and his camera has superceded him as a human. The movie was written by a guy for whom movies were realer than real life, and Stone recognized that immediately and made it the subject of his movie. That's why I think Tarantino hates this movie so much, it's about people just like him, and Stone took his own artistic thesis as far as it could go before anyone had even seen any of Quentin's work.
meant for
Thank you, anon. I'll check out JFK and Platoon, since they seem like his most mainstream popular films. NBK was probably just not a good note to start on, for me.
Dangerfield was based in this
>So you move it upstairs, and take a shower. And you make sure it's a good shower, 'cause I'm comin' up after to see how cleaaaan you are...
Mallory is my mom?
People have asserted without irony that Juliette Lewis is hot. I want to believe them but I'm struggling...
Watch her suck De Niro's thumb in Cape Fear and tell me that doesn't give you wood.
She a qt
Stone tried to warn us
Love the soundtrack. Tried to show this movie to my normie friends but they were turned off by the goofy diner scene
The part with Rodney Dangerfield is genuinely one of my favorite scenes in film.
Don't think, you're a frickin' idiot!
He looks like claymation
its not a gif dummy
wouldn't surpise me if rodney was a real pervert in real life
apparently he was more of a vanilla hollywood degenerate. basically he just wanted to have a good time with other people, he wasn't a psycho
might just be praise from other buttholes but a lot of comics spoke of rodney as a stand-up friend and sensitive guy. he deffo was into coke and hookers though but he was so transparent about it that he likely wasn't into any sick shit
the only scene worth watching in the entire movies...
>Killing you and what you represent is a statement. I'm not 100% sure exactly what it's saying but, you know...
How do you respond without sounding mad?
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
What's the piano song during the end montage? I swear I've heard it before
it's a nine inch nails song, "something i can never have", edited for the movie
Wow thanks anon I always thought it was a piece of score so I never found it
it was on the soundtrack cd back in the day, i think the piano loop is extended in the movie and the soundtrack compared to the original song on the nine inch nails album.
lol I wanted to make this same thread earlier. Terrible fricking film. You also see this on Pahe and pick it up because you heard it was good?
>Frick Oliver Stone
I thought Tarantino wrote it. I don't care enough to search it, correct me or whatever.
Written (and disowned) by Quentin Tarantino, Directed and rewriten by Oliver Stone
I remember that now, that movie was le edge and a bit much for me. I used to love it then I grew to hate the glorification of violence. Then I stop moralgayging and enjoy the cartoon like environment and story. It was a bit hamfisted in its satire, I was too young to remember how adults reacted to it at the time of release. Did people get it or was there a moral panic?
depends on who you ask, 50/50 if you ask me. it was overshadowed by pulp fiction which had won cannes the previous may and came out a few weeks after nbk. most kids liked it, some adults gave it a shot because of oliver stone's reputation with born on the 4th of july and jfk (serious adult movies) and most likely hated it. there was some controversy but not as much as jfk a few years before and nbk was old news by christmas
Weren't the Columbine shooters "inspired" by this movie as well or was that hysteria?
Yes. They literally called their plan NBK
They were completely entranced by the movie
There were multiple white trash murdering couples who claimed they watched it, got inspired, smoked weed and the killed some poor fricks along the Interstate.
qt wrote the script to direct himself as an ultra low budget movie before he broke out with reservoir dogs. oliver stone restructured his script, consolidated all the good stuff and added basically everything between the opening scene and the jail stuff
tarantino makes flicks, stone makes films, they're not on the same level
This killed Woody Harrelson's popularity as a leading comedic actor. He was on track to be an A-lister.
he starred in kingpin the next year, then was the lead in a milos forman film (larry flint). everyone involved in nbk took some flak from some puritan circles but woody did fine, if anything it raised his profile, movie was a hit money wise
Kingpin was an R-rated comedy that was a step down from the places he was going.
i don't know, i'm not his agent, but kingpin was the farrely brothers' follow up to one of the biggest comedy hits of the decade (dumb and dumber). it's not like he went from NBK to straight-to-video movies and infomercials.
actually woody followed up NBK with "sunchaser" which was direct-to-video but that's more due to michael cimino being a diva and completely fricking up his own movie and alienating the studio and the producers with his antics
The dudes mainstream career was dead until Zombieland lol
kingpin and larry flint felt pretty mainstream to me. anyways pretty sure he was doing allright smoking weed with willie nelson in hawaii
Kingpin did pretty well financially (okay no it didn't lol, but I am coping) is still a hilarious movie even after all of these years.
Bluray had two versions of Kingpin. I'll take the R-Rated version.
>Frick Olvier Stone
And Quentin.
Is the diner scene in Pulp Fiction a yummy reference call back that alludes to Natural Born Killers?
don't see it. maybe from dusk til dawn 1st half is more qt revisiting this kind of material via robert rodriguez but even then there's a lot of differences and i think the FDTD script gestation predates stone's movie
On top of that, FDTD wasn't his idea, it was Greg Nicotero's. It was a for hire job.
Best Jones performance
Best Sizemore performance
Best Harrelson performance
Best Lewis performance
Best Downey Jr performance
It's kino
LET'S KILL ALL THESE MOTHERFRICKERS
Post more 90's edgekinos
man bites dog (c'est arrivé près de chez vous) 1992. probably a better satire about media covering up a serial killer although it's a random documentary film crew instead of mainstream TV.
movie is on youtube if you can into subtitles
*better satire than NBK
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gotchu brah
Another from the man himself
Especially the second
>From the guy who used to work at the video store with QUENTIN TARANTINO
I think you mean
>From the guy who actually wrote Pulp Fiction
Really good movie.
Imagine the sex
never felt that much chemistry between them
eh, i liked it.
>another zoomer who doesn't get that the film is an allegory of redemption of the twentieth century through zen buddhism
filtered
please elaborate on your schizo NBK head canon
no
>this literally made millennials lose their minds and wear trench coats and circle sunglasses
>This made millenials larp as the characters in the movie and un-alive their fellow classmates
Sad!
>un-alive
>Gets triggered by ironic joke
Back to antenna head land!
are you going to ironically suck wiener next
Is this your first week here? Maybe you will prefer /b/ instead. They like dick jokes
haha, gay!!!
had some funny lines
during a prison riot:
>Yes, what is it, Nappaloni?
Nappalotoni!
>I DON'T CARE WHAT YOUR FRICKING NAME IS
Those are mostly real prisoners as the extras. The movie was shot in an actively operating prison. Supposedly all the inmates really wanted to frick RDJ and would catcall him constantly.
i saw this in theater with gf it was our 2nd or 3rd date. she kept wanting to leave but i made us see it through . fricking kino then and still holds up today.
you still together?
meant to add we broke up about a week later . she got with one of my roommates and they are still together afaik. had 3 kids
this movie was the coolest shit when I was a teenager
yes, its okay to like edgy movies as a teenager or even an adult
eat shit gaygos
I think zoomies who consider stuff like this edgy don't know anything about 70s movies. And I mean, the Saw movies are considered mainstream but THIS is considered edgy? I don't get it.
damn I found a thread from 1997 discussing the QT assaulting Don Murphy in a restaurant incident, it's interesting seeing an internet argument from 26 years ago, almost to the day
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.fan.tarantino/c/AQEV8SCfDFE?pli=1
the 20th century's utter fricking depravity gave birth to them
Rodney dangerfield does the psycho father pretty well and came up with everything on his own
Jesus Harold Christ, the homosexuals shitting on NBK in this thread simply have no idea. This movie was so hyped, so controversial, and so PROPHETIC when it came out. It's simultaneously a critique, and also the very thing it is critiquing. You'll never know the feeling of being a kid in the '90's seeing this ridiculous shit play out on screen, hating and loving it at the same time.
If it seems tame today, it's only because it hastened and glorified the shit culture we've become. Everything changed when Natural Born Killers came out, normies became free and unashamed to wallow in our collective sin. Young women were free to be tramp-stamped prostitutes, and the president creampied a fat israeli intern and smilingly lied to our faces about it. This movie is the ultimate "frick you" to the trash civilization we've created.
>t. mid 40's old gay, first time seeing it as a teenager I walked out of the theater at the "I Love Malory" segment.
You mean when they are reunited in prison? You only had like 15 minutes left in the movie
No dorkus, it's the sitcom segment right at the start
Oh yea that part was kino why would you leave then
MY GOD WHAT HAVE WE DOOONE
Must be a fun movie to watch on mushrooms
my favourite scene of all time
>those green colors
>that duggieaddict feel
>that anime-insert
>the biblical impact of snakes
>Raznor findig a perfect match of to the scene with a mix of gabriels taboo
>that fattie normie not getting any of it
>it all ends with a pair of chopped breasts
Provided you can handle the overall obnoxiousness, you might enjoy Gregg Araki's movies, esp Doom Generation and Nowhere
first time I noticed there are snakes wrapped around the drug symbol
I still think the prison revolution scene to Mohhamad Allah Chaar Ya is my favorite scene in the film
Test
It's basically a standard oliver stone
>start with a really cool high concept and theme
>film a few visionary scenes around that idea
>forget what you were doing, film most of 3 other sorta-related movies
>say frick it, wrap, and then try to put something coherent together in editing
>forget what you were doing in the editing room, leave in a bunch of superfluous shit and some incoherently sequenced scenes
>end up with a film that's an overlong, poorly paced mess but has just enough of the original ideas showing through that people can see the potential
>half the reviewers gush over the movie that might have been instead of what they got
I thought it was absolutely BoNkErS when I was 19 or 20 or wherever and it came out like whoooooOOOoooo. Crazy Times!
>I thought it was absolutely BoNkErS when I was 19 or 20
Were you also the biggest homosexual ever when you were 20?