What is /m/'s opinion of VOTOMS?
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I liked it when I first watched it, but while catching bits of a few episodes while a friend was watching later on, I was struck by how many long scenes there were of characters walking in silence
Not sure if I would enjoy it as much if I watched again
I like it as a story of a man finding meaning in life. Nice mecha designs other than the stupid magazine on the machine gun, memorable characters and settings.
I didn't like how the later series just took the abnormal survivor bit too seriously and make Chirico a literal god amongst men.
>He is still walking on the surface of Sansa kek
The only thing I remember from the Sansa arc is the walking and the fight with Epsilon, it was a pretty bad arc in the TV series.
Rewatched it last year and still loved it. I can tell the creators just wanted to throw all the cool shit they liked into one series and let it be as cool and as messy as it would end up being. Really fun ride.
>it was a pretty bad arc in the TV series.
Couldn't disagree more.
For me the arcs are 3>2>4>1. They really did a lot with Chirico's character and backstory in the sunsa arc. Not only did they have Chirico actually facing his PTSD/past with the vengeful widow and the combat montage at the start of the arc but it probably had the best fights of the show with Ypsilon being much more entertaining as a rival than he was on Kummen.
The real snoozer arc is the last one when he's traveling around Quent.
IMO Sunsa had one of the nicest scenes in any anime I've seen, Chirico building the makeshift chair for Fyana and carrying her on his back across the desert. The imagery was so romantic and with so little dialogue managed to capture the depth of Chirico and Fyana's relationship.
Easily one of the better couples in anime.
>spoiler
To be fair that was a pretty frickin good fight from what I remember
>when Chirico finds out the program disk he used fried midway through the fight
>Mystery of the Druids on /m/
considering the Quentians i thought it fit well enough
Mystery of the Druids was literally everywhere a decade ago when it blew up.
>was literally everywhere a decade ago
>/m/
yeah, it checks out
is that pic from SRW from VOTOMS? It looks really cool.
original was kino, ovas and sequel retcons ruined all the political nuance of the og
Frick off tourist.
How does dicks taste dude ?
Hard agree, it was a good story in and by itself
its a fun 80s action movie type deal.
suck my balls with your nuance, its cheesy garbage
I like it a lot. Not much else to say.
Moody and cool
only seen mellowlink
don't see enough about mech-cracking infantry
I've only seen Votoms episode 3 but it was the best
votoms episode 3
It was a cool ride, while i didnt like the last arc as much as the rest of the show it still was enjoyable. Last Red Shoulder, Big Battle and Origin Of Ambition OVAs also were good, practically those were just longer episodes of the original show. Mellowlink was badass and it shown that VOTOMS doesnt need to be centered around Chirico.
Sadly Shining Heresy shits on the original series ending, while animation and action were quite good it teared out Chirico from his space coffin and it killed his waifu making original show almost pointless. And then Alone Again kicked plot back again to status quo and Phantom Arc was just nostalgia bait rehashing original series, well atleast Coconna design was cool.
Votoms Finder literally only has VOTOMS in name, it doesnt belong in this series. Case;Irvine was ok but that last mecha fight was for me too much over the top compared to general standard of VOTOMS battles.
Eh i wish that they explored other sides of VOTOMS setting like in Mellowlink, maybe series focused on battling, something from Balarant point of view etc. but no they had to make everything centered about Chirico and then they fricked up his story.
>nostalgia bait
Shut the frick up.
YOU shut the FRICK up before I kick your ass like one of them Tomino's jobbers
TV > pre-sh ovas > sh = pailsen files > the rest of the ovas
I've only seen Mellowlink and the OG series.
I enjoyed it.
I'm going through shining heresy now but I was put off after getting spoiled on it and some of the later Chirico focused OVAs due to premises and plot points.
I also love the scopedog. One of my favourite designs.
Perfect Mech design, stories are hit or miss, characters are dece.
I both like Chirico and despise his overman stuff, sometimes it's tolerable other times I want to crack his skull against a Strike Dog claw.
Best character is the Quent dude though.
>other times I want to crack his skull against a Strike Dog claw
Good luck with that cuck.
Kummen is the most exciting arc, but Odo is underrated.
How could people not like Woodo arc?
it's my favorite. Has a lot of intrigue in it that isn't present later on as Chirico stops giving a shit about anything besides Fyana
For whatever reason it filters plebs out, i never understood why since i was hooked from ep 1.
It's a great and simple show that divides people for some reason. It's sci-fi action pulp, it's not complicated.
I wouldn't say it's simple because
I have to admit that I had to exert energy to finish through that last arc.
That's because your power level is too low.
I sat through long slogs of LOGH nothingburger episodes. I think I'm strong enough.
Too atmospheric, introspective, not enough pew pew quip quip
Woodo
>cyberpunk noir
Kummen
>vietnam
Sunsa
>?
Quent
>??
either suna or quent is dune, i think
>cyberpunk noir
Fricking moron.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tech_noir
>Sunsa
Actually original
>Quent
Yeah that's just Dune
what
I vaguely remember some years ago a anon spamming that votoms was like he-man or something.
Votoms has some really autistic shitposters, see:
I remember some autist that for over a year or smt like that, tried to enforce Plot Armoured Trooper Bottoms as a meme
>shit post
based and truth-pilled
Honestly both of these work.
I watched all of this save for Irvine and Finder recently; the OVA and Mellowlink were the most enjoyable.
Sunsa was a big tone shift and Quent was clearly rushed, but it was still fun even when things stretched out of science fiction and into science fantasy. The mecha designs are excellent and I never got tired of the VRRREEEE grinding as they skated around.
Red Shoulder Document was well animated, but I dislike what it did for the story at large and how they made Chirico's luck go from unusual to a blatant superpower. Pailsen Files was generally uninteresting and the 3d animations lacked a lot of weight that I liked about the 2d animation. Shining Heresy was weak all around outside of Chirico's characterization, and I loathe how it stole his happy ending away. Phantom Arc also hammed it up, but since it's at the very end of the story, it didn't bother me quite as much. Aside from the fanservice, it felt like a "what if" scenario for what a fully fleshed-out Quent arc might look like. They also fixed up the animation quite a bit.
If I wanted more real robot media like VOTOMS, what could I try next? Layzner was ok, couldn't get into Gundam Zeta.
>If I wanted more real robot media like VOTOMS, what could I try next? Layzner was ok, couldn't get into Gundam Zeta.
Non Tomino Gundam. 08th MS Team, 0080, 0083 and Thunderbolt. Dougram if you have a stomach for 70s anime pacing
thanks anon, will give those a go
My thoughts on the OVAs exactly. Big Battle was genuinely the best of them, it just felt like a high-budget episode that fit right in with the main series.
Check out Dougram if you want something similar.
don't watch the latest series.
Chirico is somehow awaken from cold storage, and forced to see fiona fly in space and pass by his planet like a meteor. Extremely depressing.
He could have floated endlessly with her, finally being allowed a soldier's rest.
He doesn't even look at her. She already died in Shining Heresy. After watching SH first, I think Phantom Arc actually did a pretty good job of unfricking everything SH did wrong.
oops, not Phantom Arc, meant Alone Again
Applies to both of them though
that's beside the point.
shouldn't he be allowed his rest? is there no end to the struggles of man?
Shining Heresy sucks eggs for killing Fyana off, but the other arcs resolve well enough and there was still room for him to have a happy ending or at least to raise a kid together instead of going back to sleep.
I thought that Shining Heresy made that clear, where it was revealed that Chirico's awakening was completely accidental despite Montewells' plan?
yes he was revived by the most powerful force in the universe: the greed of the company
at least we got one last cool set of scenes with lol data backup wiseman but Chirico really wasn’t absolutely necessary for the sequel plots to happen
I’m not even that mad he got woken up, just that Fyana’s dead and Teitania was a complete b***h who only becomes sort of ok in Alone Again
It is horrendous
what makes you say that
It's a fun ride.
Agreed.
Say what you will about Heresy and Finder but at least they tried to give us something new. The rest of the series just stuck with the OG's mecha, protagonist, setting, plot devices and music. They could only be assed to make a new opening theme for Pailsen Files, and even that uses the same eyecatch music, variants of the Scopedog, Fatty and Tortoise, and the Chirico immortality bullshit. Nothing wrong with the OG's elements if they stayed in the original. Do something new goddamnit. It's exactly what Disney did, giving the sequel trilogy TIEs and X-Wings to pander to the original trilogy fans. Except at least Disney tried to redesign those a bit, unlike Sunrise.
bad wording. Not defending Disney. On the contrary, I'm saying Bandai is doing the same as them with VOTOMS but don't even try to hide it.
>The rest of the series just stuck with the OG's mecha, protagonist, setting, plot devices and music
Nothing wrong with this.
>It's exactly what Disney
Stopped reading right there.
i actually liked PF the least out of the media you mentioned
votom's soundtrack is legendary and there's no way a modern production could hope to match it because of not only budgetary issues but also staffing and time
Cute couple
My name is Chirico and Fyana is mai waifu
Mediocre and people on this board go ballistic when you extensively criticize it
Are you trolled yet??
No, try harder.
love the OG series, but i hate that whole "literal plot armor" superpower Chrico has in the following series
and frick Chirico's Return, what a shitshow
>oh btw Teitania dies, that's why we didnt bother with her in Phantom Arc
VOTOMS has never been adapted well past its original series, everything subsequent including Mellowlink looks quite off. The low-tech look of everything really suits the old animation style and the best its ever looked is in the 80s OVAs, but everything made after looks very vacant and sparse. I think what I'm trying to say is, everything from the mecha to the character designs was perfectly-constructed for TV animation, but none of those elements ever seemed to work in anything that was made in the 90s onwards.
I don't see what you mean.
Shining Heresy looked incredible tho
i will fight you on Mellowlink especially, and Shining Heresy looks fine even if the story was poorly constructed
Mellowlink looks and sounds so ugly.
moron.
It's mediocre, sorry about you.
naw
i like the side storys a lot
FINDER should have been an entire series. I really enjoyed that one.
haven't watched FINDER yet, why do people shit on it
Votoms was cool, but the plot armor aspect became tiring. I enjoyed Mellowlink and Pailsen files the best of all the spinoffs.
Wish there were more 'down to earth' type plots in that universe.
Differrent tastes I guess.
The show has nothing to do with votoms except little skatey robots, but the new setting is cool.
Give it a go, it's just a short ova
>why do people shit on it
No one even cares enough about it to shit on it.
I can't say I dislike it, I liked the designs and the settings for Finder but I don't really recall the story being that interesting or memorable because it's only about 40 minutes long. The OVA was pretty forgettable to the point that I only remember the main character's AT and almost nothing else. The designs and settings are also the most exotic compared to the other 2 OVAs released around that time and I guess people wanted more of the "traditional votoms".
I think the final boss AT in Irvine is probably the most out of place design in the whole franchise, they tried too hard at arming the ATs in Irvine
mecha designs and fights were excellent. Everything else was pretty autistic
perfect for /m/
Yeah Chirico might be the first character in mecha anime who actually would pass a test to qualify for being autistic
>Amuro
Amuro could still function in normal society to a decent capacity. Chirico can't.
There is no normal society in Votoms, it's all a front for an eternal war and he keeps being pulled back in.
>literal first scene
>"check out VOTOMS, it's way more grounded than other mech anime!"
>Abnormal Survivors™
>that japanese guy who survived both nuclear attacks
moron.
it's handled decently well in the main series but definitely goes way too far off the rocker in the prequels
Frick off samegay.
>itt: people worshipping a mecha built by a /k/ tier autist complete with a fidget spinner on its dome.
Try harder, haremcel
What was Abnormal Survivor? Did they have powers?
bump
>Page 10
Don't die yet!
Actually, my take on Votoms fans is that they are a group who watch anime because of their trouble interpreting social behavior. Over-exaggerated emotional responses are common for anime characters to have, which Votoms fans are drawn to due to their developmental disorders (possibly autism), as without this expositional spoonfeeding they would likely become confused over simple character interactions; this phenomena is then further highlighted by their hyper-interest in a genre concerning machines and robots, which they relate to more due to their lack of humanity and uber-technical nature.
Regarding Votoms itself, look at its main character, Chirico.
Chirico barely emotes which subliminally makes the Ryosuke fan feel at ease due to his own similar emotional disability (again, same reason why they like mecha in the first place). Chirico’s monotone facial expression is of great benefit to the Votoms fan due to their regular struggle with reading faces. Past Chirico, the villains in Votoms are two-dimensionally evil and Chirico's sidekicks are the aforementioned anime histrionics which comforts the autist, allowing Chirico to be the Votoms fan’s self-insert in an easy-to-comprehend world.
Meanwhile, Tomino animes terrify the Votoms fan because of their subtle and spontaneous nature, which makes the autist ask “what the frick is going on?” when they often say the same thing to themselves about real life.
Do not fail to see that much of /m/ is as low-functioning as /mlp/ or /vp/, it's just they're quieter in their madness due to their introversion, hence why they feel kinship to the quiet buzz of machines yet have trouble understanding Tomino's scripts that 10-year-old Japanese kids can understand easily. Ironic, Tomino's shows are about "understanding", yet many grown adult men can barely understand them.
Based. Tomino's writing is the perfect way to gauge if someone's a man-child midwit or not. A great way to gauge their range for different storytelling techniques as well.
Tomino's witting is just farther proof that weebs in general (in the west at least) are just grown ass children on a mental level.
>Tomino's writing.
>Votoms fans terrified.
>Kamille in Episode 24 : "From now on, I won't call you Quattro anymore. It's time for you to be Char again."
>Big drama screen and ending.
>Kamille in Episode 25 : "Hey, what's up Quattro?"
Anon he f-f-forgot. Haha ppl forget in real life all the time like that In rl hahaha.
Anon has never had an argument IRL.
Based autist takes what everyone says literally like it is a law of reality lol
>"buh-buh he said one thing and then did another?! aha look at that awful writing"
Perfect example. Go back to watching Votoms.
Kek humans don't practice what they preach who what'll thought it'll be rocket science.
I'm telling you everything has to be signed posted in dramatic boldness in order for some viewers to pick on things. Sad.
takahashincels BTFO
Cool response to month old pasta.
>dohohoho do WINGY bazooka
Stop speaking gibberish and start speaking more sense
Stale copypasta
Stale response to copypasta
>06/07/22
>homosexual just screencapped his own post
I screen capped his post from
You got mods thinking that anon reposted his own shit.
The hell are you idiots talking about Tomino in a VOTOMS thread? Talk about VOTOMS.
The votoms autist doesn't even like the show, he's just a tomino hater craving attention, that's why he keeps bumping this dumpster fire.
I thought the fight scenes were pretty cool. I think they shine the most in the Kunmen arc.
>Would've
Is what i meant. Time for me to go to fricking bed.
Very moody, well rounded. too many recap episodes, very good soundtrack. Always appreciate that Chirico NEVER breaks from being a stoic loner even when he's surrounded by his friends.
>too many recap episodes
This isn't a thing, you can just skip them because they are actual recap episodes and not "we made the recap episode into a normal episode so you can't skip it but you are stuck seeing what happened previously anyways".
Yeah, I know you can skip them, just don't think they needed to be there in the first place. Its almost every 5 episodes iirc.
No, it's one for each arc.
Not really. Episodes 20 and 28 recapped Uoodo while 40 recapped Sunsa before the beginning of the Quent arc. The Kummen arc never got a recap episode.
>evangelion but good
Evangelion, but stupider, schlockier, and more Saturday Morning Cartoon-oriented
so better
Yeah right Super Friends is better than Evangelion tbh
it literally is
And nowhere near half as pretentious. So eva still takes another L.
Votoms is pretentious though
It's literally not.
>comments on the nature of trauma, PTSD, destiny, God, existence without any substance
>not pretentious
Those things are within the context of the show, it's not precious to have writing.
gb2yt
damn. . .
>None of the Chiricos say anything to each other in the entire show
>Action scenes are 3x shorters since they are all genuinely ubercompetent
>in the end, they all just infiltrate and beat down SEELE and the JSDF and walk off without saying a word
If you this this isn't what Takahasi's take on Eva would be, watch Gasaraki
>Gasaraki
yeah it'd be 24 episodes of nothing happening with maybe 2 or 3 angels and then the last two episodes would be the normal 25-26 NGE episodes
>b-b-but ayyba!
Votoms TV + Last Red Shoulder is as good as it gets. Big Battle and Mellowlink were quality side stories, but Roots of Ambition was the start of increasingly questionable developments concerning Chirico's past and powers. Shining Heresy's production problems and divisive storyline really was the end of old Votoms. Chirico's story was essentially over and in a way Votoms died with Fyana. Thirteen years later, Pailsen Files almost felt like a franchise reboot that narratively and tonally picked up where Roots of Ambition left off. Phantom Arc and Alone Again served as little more than nostalgia trips, but looking back they were a really sweet sendoff for Votoms and everyone who was involved in its production. Despite the sequels being superfluous, they're still enjoyable mecha anime. With Yanaga, Tomita and Shioyama having passed away, it's the end of an era. It's sad to know there will never be more stories by the original cast and crew, but what they did make is truly special.
pretty much nailed the thoughts i clumsily wrote about earlier ITT
and gave me a lot more context to its value in terms of production / staff.
thanks anon
Wish Blue Knight Berserga got the anime treatment, would at least give the fans more of what they want then the spin-off animes have. Votoms really would benefit by going back to its roots, stop focusing solely on Chirico, and bringing back more of the hard sci-fi and jarhead elements. Seems like the series in general is kind of in limbo these days
I like CCC (Chirico Centric Content).
>Wish Blue Knight Berserga got the anime treatment
It is? Series, OVA, or movie?
Its a trilogy of novels as far as I'm aware
It definitely was hyped up to be better than it actually is, but I still enjoyed it.
What do you mean "was hyped up to be better than it actually is"?
It filtered him
i like how they skate around the battle, like pissed off ice skater.
Zakus skate as well.
...
...
any info about this?
looks like there's some videos and stuff
For a second that loading screen with the chibi art style and blackboard made me think this was gonna be a VOTOMS themed edutainment game for kids
amuro
Museru
best /m/ franchise ever OP, next question.
I liked it a lot, sound track is the shit. Tried to watch it with some zoomer friends and they don't have the attention span for it
Why you hanging out with kids
They ain't even kids. Most of them are early to mid 20s, im the outlier in age at 30.
my position is the complete inverse and I have the exact same concern
Apparently, Bamco loves VOTOMS enough to bring it in three recent games: T, DD and 30, with the latter case having an original designed Scopedog.
The museru is strong
Seeing Okawara's modern take on Scopedog is amusing. I never find the ATs to look "beautiful" until this sexy beast appeared.
I really enjoyed the original series. I've been meaning to watch Mellowlink and I've heard mixed things about the OVAs that came after, but I'm willing to give them a shot. Scopedog is an A+ design and Chirico's pilot suit/uniform is iconic.
I don't know why people have such an issue with the three 80s OVAs, they're excellent action outings. Mellowlink is pretty mediocre but for some reason that's something you're not allowed to say.
It's pretty good. It couldn't live up to the memes but what ever really does. But still pretty good. Some of the better mecha anime to come out of the 80's.
What fricking memes? Go back to twitter.
>Page 10
Slow board.
>Page 1
Keep it up there!
This is arguably one of the worst threads in the board and it's clearly being bumped out of spite by the discord morons.
>are you trolled yet???
VOTOMS in future SRW games probably won't top Burglary Dog's absurd awesomeness in Z3.
Why do the mods allow these discord circlejerk threads?
What fatty is that
A fan variation of the Balarant Pod Belly from Blue Knight Berserga back from the weird "Badger" phenomena back in 2012.
>the weird "Badger" phenomena back in 2012.
what's that?
www.BadgerBadgerBadger.com
Somewhere in the moonwebs someone created an OC mech called the Badger. They made a bunch of art of it and some people made art of it and designs based on how it looked. Stopped around 2013 or so.
So it's a Scopedog with digital eyes. How original
Why did you delete that file?
Delete which file?
Sorry about that. You posted the file at
again. I asked because you deleted it yesterday.
He was most likely one of the Nextants piloting the Erdspinnes Chirico killed in the last episode when they tried to protect Wiseman from Chirico.
Deep lore, thanks for the info
Where is the "Men of Density" thread when you need it?
>Men of Density
For me it's votoms episode 3
I think it's a mecha anime classic, had no trouble giving it a perfect score.
The original Gundam is a classic and a good one at that, but it's flawed and not perfect. Why do you think there's the Origin remakes?
Zeonwank?
>remakes
God I hate americans.
I felt like watching Phantom Arc but bakabt has a login in front of it now. I suppose they went private recently.
There's uploads on nyaa but they're not seeded. Where's the place to go these days?
t. clueless anon and definitely not a DMCA agency
>Recently
It's been there for several years.
what happaned to the dude that killed potaria in phantom arc
Im 7 episodes into the original show and while it's been entertaining enough and the votoms themselves are awesome, im finding it kind of mediocre, certainly not good enough to justify the 50 episode time investment. Does it get better?
No, go back to IBO dumb zoomer.
The quality of the show is directly related to how far into it you are. It only gets better.
Why are you telling him to not watch a good show
Because I don't want to put up with bingey zoomers asking to be spoonfed in every thread. They can't even decide whether to watch a show or not, they see it as an investment and need deep counseling to take the step.
Your post would not have brought you any closer to your goals. You are acting irrationally
Sorry i'm not a moron neet living off his parents like you, i got other shit to do and would rather not waste what little free time i have watching subpar trash. Quit being a homosexual.
I was hoping that was the case. Chirico's character is very tragic, having his entire youth stolen by war and then left to fend for himself and deal with all the ptsd, i cant wait to see what they do with him.
get a different hobby if you need a council to tell you if an anime is good, homosexual
he is just asking for advice
you are being uncharitable for no reason
Why should I be charitable with some random zoomer? If they don't have the patience to watch a show then they should stick to other hobbies.
Just because you don’t know someone doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be charitable to them.
Yeah yeag go back to mcdonalds wagie.
you just don't get it, fool
Just frick off.
Not really, it's a breath of fresh air when they change the setting and robots up at the beginning of each arc but the characterization is pretty weak outside of vanilla and the action never gets more interesting or elaborate, it's always just chirico using his aimbot to blast a gorillion goons. It does have a lot of interesting stuff especially towards the end but it's too slow and repetitive for 50 episodes. Give Mellowlink a try.
>the action never gets more interesting or elaborate
There's that space battle.
>the action never gets more interesting or elaborate
You weren't paying attention to the direction.
Why ask on Cinemaphile of all places?
Superb.
I love it, might be my favorite real robot
moron.
I liked the idea that Shining Heresy provided as Chirico is just this eternally suffering soldier to go from battlefield to battlefield, but I can see why people didn't like his happy ending destroyed
the problem is that you are not supposed to watch it immediately after, but bingies have no patience
Dude, I waited until Gunlord and BROhgamiIchirou subbed it a decade ago after watching the old Votoms subs that were likely ripped from the old Us Manga Corps DVDs. It still felt kind of melancholic when it happened. I'm kind of curious though, how do you go about watching it then?
Anyways, there's persistent rumors that they had originally intended to do more episodes but had the total count reduced at the last moment. Same rumors suggest that they originally planned to have Fyana survive somehow but considering they stuck with her being dead in Alone Again and Phantom Chapter I'm not entirely sure how much the rumor is based on any facts.
>how do you go about watching it then?
with franchises that span many series I try to watch other things in between
whats the name of the bridge bunny next to rochina
No idea. If I recall correctly, she was his secretary in the original TV run.
Are the BDs any good?
Supposedly worth it for the HD ovas.
I have the most recent Sentai release. The main TV series is SD, but some of the OVAs are in HD. It's a nice collection for fairly cheap. It does not include Mellowlink, though, which is a shame
So i just finished Votoms yesterday. I was loving it up until the wiseman reveal. Why would they ruin the whole show at the end with this dumb 3K year old brain in a jar bullshit. The overman shit with Chirico is whatever, but Wiseman just fricks with everything for me.
but anooooon there haaas to beee a space odyssey reference
>oh no, THIS is too much for me
Stop being such a gay.
It felt like it was what they had been slowly building up to from as far back as the first arc, but didn't have the time to set up the reveal properly. Quent suddenly happens.
Yeah, thats why im fine with the overman shit i guess. It was becoming increasingly obvious that Chirico was simply built different. But the whole Wiseman thing just.....happens. Suddenly you realise that Chirico has been getting saved somehow by this dude in every battle he's ever been in, and that sucks.
>Suddenly you realise that Chirico has been getting saved somehow by this dude in every battle he's ever been in.
Wiseman did not interfere during battle, he just manipulated datas and information in order to attract Chirico and his enemies at different places.
Oh, really? Considering he kept going on about how much he "Saved" chirico i figured he was fricking sending people to save his ass.
I interpreted it as Wiseman ensuring that Chirico's encounters were possible to win and lead him to Quent; the insane luck and aptitude were all Chirico's overman privileges otherwise.
There's a recurring theme across the whole series of the villain of the arc testing if Chirico really is superhuman and then getting both confirmation and btfo, so it fits the formula to see it this way.
captcha DTONYD
So he basically stacked the deck in such a way that Chirico wouldnt just get insta gibbed?
More like stacked the deck that he SHOULD get insta-gibbed but if he survived somehow he could easily end up at the next insta-gib test station.
I seee....I still dont like it, but that atleast makes a bit more sense than what i thought.
what is this?
It's a Zwerg light AT from one of the Japanese PS1 games, unsure which.
Looks like the Blue Knight game.
Somehow got it's way into a chink botebawd gacha. Very weird tbh.
eh?
>he's not aware
Cool mechanical designs but unwatchable because slow 70s anime. Same with 0079. If there is condensed movie version I'll try watching that.
Shit bait.
>70s
>tfw finally found a high quality rip of Soldier Blue
SETSUNAI ZE
This relevant to your interests?
https://mega.nz/folder/QMNEQIgK#AyopdfffmKTjgLGT3SmCfw
It is. The Soldier Blue rip that I found was higher quality though. Ever heard of Soulseek?
I think I have but I don't really remember why.
Recently finally got off my ass to watch it (I kept forgetting to continue on my first watch and stopped halfway) and it's awesome. Like everyone else said, lots of walking scenes or running scenes or silent staring scenes like anime at the time used to have, which kind of killed the pacing. Didn't bother watching any specials other than Mellowlink and Last Red Shoulder, even though I absolutely love Shining Heresy's OP and ED.
watch them you gay moron
>new anime doesn't have walking, running or staring
watch more anime, moron
VOTOMS is definitely one of my favourite mecha shows, I love the mecha designs, the cast, and the music (the OST is easily one of the best mecha OSTs of all time). The only thing I didn't really love when I watched it was the ending, and by that I mean the epilogue of Chirico and Fyana freezing themselves. I don't know why, but it was a very unsatisfying ending to me. In retrospect I don't mind it at all though.
I watched and liked a majority of the side content, including Case;Irvine and Finder. Shining Heresy is very middle of the road and Phantom Arc blows mega-ass by rehashing the exact same shit. I'm going to be honest, I didn't care for Mellowlink at all. It was cool at first but the allure of a guy on foot shooting down mecha was lost on me by like the third or fourth episode, and I didn't really care for the cast at all. I mean, Mellowlink isn't really very interesting of a character, and I thought Keak Carradine's motivations were weak and he was a really unsatisfying villain.
>spoiler
Because there's no payoff, they don't experience any peace, they just essentially off themselves and then that gets made spectacularly worse after the original run
they have their peace with each other and that’s the payoff
>It was cool at first but the allure of a guy on foot shooting down mecha was lost on me by like the third or fourth episode
You are not meant to speedwatch it.
How am I supposed to watch it then you fricking idiot? Watch it over six months like how it was released? It'd still get uninteresting when I see him pile drive a stake into a robot for the fifth time no matter how much time passed. Of all the things in the comment to get upset about, you make up some bullshit buzzword and have no actual argument. Shut the frick up you dumb piece of shit.
I agree with trips anon now (nice get), but dubs anon (also nice get) described how I felt about it. In retrospect it's basically the best ending for Chirico to give up fighting rather than continue to be a killing machine. I guess it's just a little anti-climatic considering Chirico in the very same episode kills a God.
Go back to Cinemaphile moron.
You watch it at a normal pace, dumb speedwatcher.
I watched it over a week with regular breaks and paying full attention without doing other shit like building any plamo or whatever. You morons sound like the sort of idiots who say you need LSD or weed to enjoy certain albums, well those albums are probably shit if you need to cope and contort the way you do things to suit it. Do you have any actually worthwhile things to say now, or are you going to continue citing some made up word with a vague meaning that can change depending on which homosexual on this board is posting, or which of your schizoid personalities is on display?
>52 episode show + OVAs
>watched it over a week
dubs anon here, the rub is that they don't do very much chilling besides being literally frozen
Given their problem was the world kept dragging them back into wars they didn't have a stake in, their 'payoff' being to frick off and experience nothing is hollow
an hero
You'd sure fit right in there with your fourteen year old tier writing style.
And you'd sure fit right in on Reddit getting upset over being called a moron on Cinemaphile and trying to scold me for being abrasive. Now formulate an argument or gtfo
You are a dubsposter, you are far more of a tourist than anyone else here.
Dubsposting happened on every board and is something oldgays did,
lurk more you moronic homosexual.
I clearly meant I watched Mellowlink over a week, not the whole series. You should learn to read English
you will never be an oldgay
Watched all the shows, own a few merch and even played the Heavy Gear vidya and intend to play the Tabletop too. I just can't get enough of the good old skating mechs VOTOMS created.