I don't care about semantics or mental gymnastics, every single person who sees a troony thinks the same thing -- "that is a man in a dress, I must address him with 'she / her' and play along with the charade out of politeness"
Correct, going to college these days is a fricking pain in the ass. You have to be PC af, I study in eastern eu and one of my lectures about languages focused on Trump vs Obama. The lecturer kept talking how orange man bad despite nobody giving a frick bout the USA. He even played us a yt video of John Oliver making fun of trump and said " You know John Oliver? He's great isn't he"
Jesus Christ, that sounds terrible. What country? I thought eastern Europe was supposed to be better? I did my Bachelor's degree here in Germany and spent exactly 0 hours on subjects that weren't STEM, thank God.
Poland, the lecturer even shares a perfect resemblence with the onions memes (glasses, long beard, big hairdo like that one weed smoking basedboy that used to get spammed constantly)
Poland, the lecturer even shares a perfect resemblence with the onions memes (glasses, long beard, big hairdo like that one weed smoking basedboy that used to get spammed constantly)
I stopped with my university visual arts(concept art and 3d artist) in the Netherlands(although most of the students and teachers came from outside the Netherlands) because I only needed to work with these fricking weirdos. My teacher got mad when we had a group assignment and you could only choose in our video game between a boy or girl. Now I work as a construction project planner, and damn working with carpenters is so much easier because the aren't woke.
>asks professor "what is a woman" >he gives a detailed response >it is edited out and mocked
I mean regardless of your political opinion, this whole project was just bad filmaking. It pretends to be a documentary about answering the title question, when in reality it's just some attention whoring alt right chud play actin some frankenstein mix of ben shapiro and louie theroux.
I'd be really interested in seeing the full interviews, just to see how biased the editing process was.
I thought while watching that this movie would be very unconvincing to someone from the other side but at least somewhat informative for people of his own side.
99% of the professors basically say something akin to "it's a socially construed category" to which he asks if he is a woman, to which they have no fricking answer
It's edited out and mocked because it's a bunch of elaborate mental gymnatics that obfuscate reality by hiding behind a veneer of intellectualism
Who would know if that's true when the documentary is so obviously biased? All the moron creators did was shoot themselves in the foot, conservitards seem incapable of steelmanning
>incapable of steelmanning
Precisely this. That's all these cowards need to do to win people over to their side who've got more than two brain cells to rub together. But it would mean intellectual work, which they're too lazy to actually do.
>It's edited out and mocked because it's a bunch of elaborate mental gymnatics that obfuscate reality by hiding behind a veneer of intellectualism
then like I say it's bad documentary filmaking. If he was sincere in his search to answer the question, why doesn't in good faith listen to the professors opinion?
It's clear he set up the interview with an agenda and a pre-formed conclusion on what a woman is (i.e. as the ending concludes "adult human female"), and is just looking for cherry picked quotes and soundbites to outrage those who agree with the same opinion.
What's the point of this type of filmmaking? It's insincere, and I can see why multiple people ended the interviews. Imagine being a professor or a politician and somebody sets up an interview to ask for your opinions etc for a documentary, and he turns up with these baity loaded questions obviously pushing an agenda. It's just a waste of time. Nobody will be convinced either way by this. If you hate trannies you will watch this and continue to hate. If you hate chuds you'll watch this and continue to hate chuds. Achieves nothing, elaborates nothing, just perpetuates this stupid culture war that serves only to divide people further.
>why doesn't in good faith listen
he did and they got butthurt that he was even asking and went straight into the batshit circular reasoning that leftists need to employ to justify the unrepentant paedophillic evil that is queer theory
What? The interviewees were given the questions before hand. The college professor is an actual moron if he can't accept being challenged by a guy with a question. College is suppose to challenging. The documentary guy went to people who have the most authority relating to gender studies and he finds out that they can't form an answer that isn't circular. Also of course the documentary is biased, every documentary has a bias. Please seek help to de-trans my brother.
>that isn't circular.
"A woman is a person who identifies as a woman" is not circular reasoning if you think about if for more than a second (especially when you cross reference it with the professor's edited down statement) and Matt Walsh is a moron for stating otherwise
How is it not circular? You are asking for the definition of something and the person replies with a definition that relies on the word you want defined.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't the definition of a word is a matter of logic. Like if you run around telling people they're using words wrong you're just an butthole. Call trannies men, call them women, call them attack helicopters, who gives a frick.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>ESL
Good thing only mentally ill people think like you! We use words because these words have definitions to them. These definitions explain the worlds without being circular. This is why when you search up the definition of a woman you get "an adult female". Not "a woman is a woman", if you don't accept this then create your own form of language that has warped circular definitions.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>a woman is a female
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/female
fe·male | ˈfē-ˌmāl
Definition of female (Entry 1 of 2)
1a(1) : of, relating to, or being the sex that typically has the capacity to bear young or produce eggs
In a field of milkweed, I watched a female monarch butterfly deposit a single egg on the underside of a leaf.
— Tom Tyning
A few months later, she became the highest paid female performer on the Great White Way.
— Susannah McCorkle
(2) botany : having or producing only pistils or pistillate flowers
a female holly
female inflorescences
b : having a gender identity that is the opposite of male
c : made up of usually adult members of the female sex : consisting of females
the female workforce
d : characteristic of girls, women, or the female sex : exhibiting femaleness
composed for female voices
a female name
e : designed for or typically used by girls or women
a female glove
f : engaged in or exercised by girls or women
female suffrage
female political power
g : having a quality (such as small size or delicacy of sound) sometimes associated with the female sex
The way I read that it applies to both trans women and cis women, but it's cool if you disagree. People don't have to agree on everything.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>of, relating to, or being the sex that typically has the capacity to bear young or produce eggs
Yes, this is what we accept is what a female is. So a woman is an adult female. Thanks for proving my answer?
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm right because I'm right. Is not circular and it also means you're wrong. Sorry, try next time, but won't work because I'm right because I'm right.
Because (from the perspective of the professor) there are no inherent qualifiers to it outside the individual's decision to identify with the term.
Sure the word has connotations to conventional womanliness which women no doubt identify with, but those connotations aren't set in stone so the closest thing to a concrete answer from this perspective would be 'one who identifies with this term is what defines the term'.
If you were to play devil's advocate and agree that concepts conventionally associated with being a woman (wearing a dress, make up etc) aren't enough to conceive of a solid truth of womanliness, then the only remaining answer is that the term itself is what people identify with, and that term has varying connotations depending on where you live and where you grew up.
I tried really hard to avoid using the word 'fluid' because using words that are perceived as overused whips people into a frenzy
2 years ago
Anonymous
no he answered it fully. basically being a woman is nothing over and above a statement of self identity. if you identify as a woman, you're a woman. there is nothing physical or material to womanhood over and above this.
obviously this is moronic, but it's not circular.
the filmmaker just keeps saying yeah BUT WHAT!! are you identifying as, and he can't articulate it because the troon agenda has reduced womanhood/female to nothing over and above self identification as a woman, so there is no way to define it further. if someone claims to be a woman they're a woman.
it's moronic, but it's not circular. this is the end result of the troony agenda. they want their male dicks in every single female space without pushback, and the only way to acheive this is to complete reduce the concept of being a woman to nothing over and above the mere claim that you are one.
there is truly no depth to male depravity. they will say or do anything to invade female spaces, including utterly destroying the concept of womanhood, denying physical reality, denying science, biology, denying the concept of sex itself - all to get their dicks near women, to dominate female sports, to impose their MALENESS in female spaces. evil.
HAHAHAHAHA. Good thing nobody with power agrees with you here. You are trying to butcher the english language here. People do not go around saying that they are a door because they have feel like they are. We categorize matter by words that represent what they are. The woman definition categorizes adult females, you either fit this description or you are not a woman. You will never change this definition.
2 years ago
Anonymous
b-but if I pretend real hard I can be a Su-37 Super Flanker and fligh and rain hell on the ground, right? don't take that away from me
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Because (from the perspective of the professor) there are no inherent qualifiers to it outside the individual's decision to identify with the term.
But that is the underlying issue. Identifying as a thing isn't the same as defining the thing itself. You can define a tree, or the concept of a tree; identifying as a tree is another matter. And when you get into immaterial issues, like social constructs, it becomes even more muddied with nonsense.
>but those connotations aren't set in stone so the closest thing to a concrete answer from this perspective would be 'one who identifies with this term is what defines the term'.
That's the circular portion those people were pointing out.
>If you were to play devil's advocate and agree that concepts conventionally associated with being a woman (wearing a dress, make up etc) aren't enough to conceive of a solid truth of womanliness, then the only remaining answer is that the term itself is what people identify with, and that term has varying connotations depending on where you live and where you grew up.
Pointing out the materialist error of experience is the only good portion of this. The latter is a non-answer, i.e. relativism. People can agree those ideas vary by X and Y, but the only time people really use it as a response is because they have no answer themselves. You ask them what THEY define it as, and they invoke relativity.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>You ask them what THEY define it as, and they invoke relativity
But to play doubles advocate, it's the same for men. You take a particular class of people - those who identify as men (which would include transmen, men who lost their tesiticles or penises, infertile men, men with pubertal and developmental disorders, men with feminine mannerisms, etc), and ask them WHAT specifically they are identifying as? You're going to get a wide array of answers depending on culture upbringing, scientific and religious leanings, etc. What can you really even conclude about this group of people other that they identify as men/male? what's the common denominator?
2 years ago
Anonymous
self identity is arbitrary and a non scientific aspect
2 years ago
Anonymous
no he answered it fully. basically being a woman is nothing over and above a statement of self identity. if you identify as a woman, you're a woman. there is nothing physical or material to womanhood over and above this.
obviously this is moronic, but it's not circular.
the filmmaker just keeps saying yeah BUT WHAT!! are you identifying as, and he can't articulate it because the troon agenda has reduced womanhood/female to nothing over and above self identification as a woman, so there is no way to define it further. if someone claims to be a woman they're a woman.
it's moronic, but it's not circular. this is the end result of the troony agenda. they want their male dicks in every single female space without pushback, and the only way to acheive this is to complete reduce the concept of being a woman to nothing over and above the mere claim that you are one.
there is truly no depth to male depravity. they will say or do anything to invade female spaces, including utterly destroying the concept of womanhood, denying physical reality, denying science, biology, denying the concept of sex itself - all to get their dicks near women, to dominate female sports, to impose their MALENESS in female spaces. evil.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>they will say or do anything to invade female spaces, including utterly destroying the concept of womanhood, denying physical reality, denying science, biology, denying the concept of sex itself - all to get their dicks near women, to dominate female sports, to impose their MALENESS in female spaces.
Trannies are based?
2 years ago
Anonymous
you could use this brain to actually respond in a sincere way next time please
what is this stupid bait
dude he spent half the fricking film mocking people for circular definitions and then his grand conclusion is that a woman is a female...
the whole fricking point is what is a female. chromosomes? sex characteristics? reproductive organs? socialization? an internal sense of self-identity?
It's not so simple. There's chromosomal disorders, hysterectomies, developmental disorders, intersex, etc, etc, but most importantly there are people with all the typical physical characteristics of what we deem female - who strongly self identify and claim to be male, and in a legal sense in a lot of countries now, ARE male.
>There's chromosomal disorders, hysterectomies, developmental disorders, intersex, etc, etc,
I don't really believe in the "men have a dick women have a vegana that's basic biology!" Argument - I mean if someone feels that way then they're valid, but I've only seen like three veganas in my life so to say that I define womanhood on something I've barely seen is kind of weird to me. Again, if you feel that when then that's cool. But also the "what about intersex people" is just a hat on a hat of mental gymnastics in my opinion and the people who use that argument don't really believe in the "basic biology nuff said" stuff either so what's the fricking point?
huh? the point is that some intersex people can outwardly present and be accepted as male or female. and so when people say a woman is anyone with two x chromosomes the point is that there are clear cases where that's not true.
Right, but if you don't agree with the premise in the first place,... I don't think you would agree with it even if intersex people didn't exist.
Or, that's true for most people who take your position. They disagree with the "basic biology nuff said" for ontological reasons, plus they're probably gay for troony dick.
>and so when people say a woman is anyone with two x chromosomes the point is that there are clear cases where that's not true.
Exception that proves the rule anon.
How do you explain the existence of intersex people without reference to the reality of the XX/XY gender/sex binary?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Even if intersex people exist, how the frick does that enable any non-intersex XY man to be considered a woman. It doesn't and it shouldn't.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Basic biology
2 years ago
Anonymous
It doesn't and shouldn't, and I never implied that it did anon. I was trying to explain to the other anon that exceptions to rules do not disprove the rules, rathertx they reinforce them.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yep, you'd expect to find fuzzy edges in almost any biological binary. Because nature isn't perfect and mistakes happen. The fact those mistakes often result in non viability or sterility just further strengthens the binary
the vast majority of trannies aren't people who are born intersex. they're just males and females who for one reason or other want others to pretend they are the opposite sex.
if you don't it's because you have fricked up genetics or were injured, therefore outside the norm.
if you chop off a dude's dick he doesn't transform into some wonderful new gender, he's just a mutilated dude.
If i take a demo saw to a toyota it's a fricked up toyota, you don't need to include a new wiki page for a rare camry variant, you've just fricked up a car.
describe a human with you're fricked up israeli inclusivity gobleyasiatic
what does a human look like and remember to include those fricked up inside out mercury poisoned indian stillborns
just because a small percentage of people are born without legs, it does not mean that the phrase "humans are bipedal" is false, you're confusing the exception for the rule, because you have brain AIDS
>in a legal sense in a lot of countries now, ARE male.
They aren't male, though. They can be legally defined as such under pain of death if you misgender them, but they don't BECOME male. It doesn't matter how hard you scream that 2+2 equals 5 and anyone who disagrees with you is a bigot, you can't change reality.
I feel like yes, those people are authoritarians, but... There are cool trans people in the world. Bailey Jay was the original queen of /b/ and would post here all the time. Her words were "I don't care if you see me as a man or woman but everyone who sees me as a man seems to hate me, for some reason, so..."
Like he/she/whatever isn't responsible for cultural Marxism and it's really unfair to put that on her of that's what you're doing.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I feel like
*you think, you believe. Please stop abusing the English language.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Actually feelings and thoughts and beliefs are highly intertwined. The moar you know!
>dude he spent half the fricking film mocking people for circular definitions and then his grand conclusion is that a woman is a female... >the whole fricking point is what is a female
no that has never been the point. trannies and their defenders have usually argued that there is a difference between biological sex (a physical reality) and 'gender' (a social construct) and that trans people choose the gender that most suits them.
It's only now that their opposition has begun to put its foot down about biological sex being the key to defining a woman that you and your ilk have shifted to "well what is biological sex anyway?"
Once the option to deconstruct gender is shut in your face you then jump to trying to deconstruct biological sex.
I've personally never heard of (nor do I agree with) the idea that sex is being deconstructed as a cope.
If the opposition is 'putting their foot down' and insists that biological sex is the key defining aspect of a woman (they've been doing this since day 1 by the way, this is by no means a recent talking point, it's the backbone of the entire rhetoric) then the argument against that would be (as it's always been) that biological sex isn't enough to define a woman in a true way based on what a woman is seen as treated as on a cultural and societal level.
I'm not trying to argue here or anything I just wanted to address the phoney implication that this post somehow definitively won the argument lol
this post has nothing in it can you try again but with an argument or something
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's literally in the post. The idea that the left is 'now suddenly trying to deconstruct biological sex after we put our foot down'! is bunkem.
The liberal perspective has always generally surrounded the ideas of gender and how they relate to and differ from biological sex.
2 years ago
Anonymous
see what you’re doing is worthless tho
you aren’t actually participating in the discussion
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's not a discussion the entire post I was responding to isn't making an argument.
But I can break it down for you if you'd like
> trannies and their defenders have usually argued that there is a difference between biological sex (a physical reality) and 'gender' (a social construct) and that trans people choose the gender that most suits them.
Yes, this is generally one of the main talking point behind being pro-trans >It's only now that their opposition has begun to put its foot down about biological sex being the key to defining a woman
"Only now that their opposition has begun to put its foot down" is false, isn't 'biological sex is the key to defining a woman' the central talking point behind anti-trans rhetoric? No one behind this argument has suddenly decided to 'put their foot down', it's clear as day what both sides think on the matter. >you and your ilk have shifted to "well what is biological sex anyway?"
I've personally never heard of 'deconstructing biological sex' as a genuine argument that a majority of pro-trans people have said. As stated above I sincerely don't believe this is a thing that regularly happens as the idea that gender is separate from sex (according to pro-trans rhetoric) does not require sex to be deconstructed.
>Once the option to deconstruct gender is shut in your face you then jump to trying to deconstruct biological sex.
Who 'shut' this option in anyone's face? The pro-trans side hasn't suddenly stopped arguing that gender is deconstructable.
Hope that clears things up. Again, I'm not trying to participate in an argument for or against here, I just think the original post I responded to was a bunch of baloney and it seemed dishonest to imply that liberals were incapable of addressing whatever """argument""" it was trying to present
2 years ago
Anonymous
a lot of words for a no true scotsman landscape to be painted
i don’t care about your framing dude why are you still framing other peoples opinions for me
2 years ago
Anonymous
Do you seriously think that post was making a good point?
You don't see what I mean at all by claiming that him saying things like "Only now that we're putting our foot down" and "once x option is shut in your face" doesn't add up?
2 years ago
Anonymous
i’m now confused as to what we’re talking about specifically
i was criticizing his post for different reasons i think
Ok then, how many chromosomes does the human species have? 46 or should we consider those few exceptions that have mutations? They're mutations for a reason
Honestly, the proffesor was a b***h, he seems about to cry at every uncomfortable question, he just shouldnt have agreed to the interview and let someone more capable of debating handle the situation, then again, ~~*walsh*~~ wouldnt have his movie
well I would imagine there was some really shady shit going on in setting up these interviews. I would bet money it was sold as something like
"hey I'm a documentary filmaker doing an expose on the topic of sex and gender in american society and I'd appreciate hearing from a professor on this topic", for example.
and then obviously he comes in with an agenda and starts a debate and then cynically edits the reponses.
it's all just more of this culture war bullshit. an interview isn't supposed to be a debate and yes that professor was a little b***h liberal homosexual but he made some decent points questioning the interviewers motivation, why he was so interested in this topic, why he's asking these questions etc. clearly he realised this wasn't a genuine interview and the guy had an agenda and he was being used and having his time wasted. if I was him I'd end the interview as well.
it's like if ben shapiro set up an interview with a rap artist and then started a debate with the guy over whether "rap is music".
Imagine being unable to defend your position and then saying "uh the guy who set up the interview didn't tell me he was going to challenge me so it doesn't count".
It'd be one thing if Walsh ambushed him with a bunch of studies and documents, but he was asking a basic question that the guy was incapable of answering.
>he answered the question and it was edited over.
So the professor in question must've clarified his position online somewhere, what was his answer? I mean, it's a pretty basic question, and none of these guys have ever provided any answer that makes even a vague shred of sense, but according to you he's got it figured out and the documentary portrayed him dishonestly.
it was edited over in the documentary moron, literally put stupid sound effects over it. just because someone answers a question in a way you disagree with doesn't mean it wasn't answered.
like I say, why even bother looking for an answer to a question when you've preformed a conclusion and then edit over anyone who presents an opposing viewpoint? why even seek out an opposing viewpoint if you just edit it out? this documentary sucked.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>and we played the first thing that came to our heads and it just so happned to be >THE BEST troony AFFIRMING ANSWER IN THE WORLD >IT WAS THE BEST troony AFFIRMING ANSWER IN THE WORLD.
>this is not the greatest troony affirming answer in the world..it is just an excuse
2 years ago
Anonymous
>just because someone answers a question in a way you disagree with
The question wasn't answered, though. In fact, the professor involved outright stated that he couldn't answer the question in the interview, because he was asked to define woman without using the word woman in the definition, and he couldn't do it.
If I tell you I like florpies, and you ask me what a florpie is, would you take "a florpie is a florpie" as an answer?
The only interesting part about it is the part where he goes to a african tribe and when he asks if there's anything beyond man and woman they're just fricking confused and straight up say that you're either one or the either and if you don't believe that you're mentally ill
>The only interesting part about it is the part where he goes to a african tribe and when he asks if there's anything beyond man and woman they're just fricking confused and straight up say that you're either one or the either and if you don't believe that you're mentally
If only he goes to sulawesi and met bugis tribe
does troonyism even make sense without reference to an inner gendered soul or self that somehow inhabits one's body like a little homunculus.
It just makes zero sense to me how someone can feel incongruent with their bodies sex. I just don't get it. If my body were somehow made into a females overnight, aside from the shock factor, I wouldn't feel an 'incongruence' because I am not internally a male that just so happens to match my physical body, but rather I am male bodied, and there is no internal gendered self that inhabits this body.
I just actually feel like an npc when trannies make their arguments talking about their inner self and 'feminine' nature and "born in the wrong body", as if god a made a mistake when he put their soul into their body.
there is just your body, not some extra, internal gendered thing/self/soul that inhabits it. if my body becomes female then what changes for me other than my body having different features?
>if my body becomes female then what changes for me other than my body having different features?
I feel like if you became a woman overnight, it'd be pretty horrible.
The best way I can explain it is like when you're lucid dreaming. In a dream, I'm very obviously mentally impaired. Things that should be obvious become incredibly hard to understand, and only when I wake up do I understand them and feel annoyed at how stupid I was.
That's what being a woman would be like, but with no guarantee of ever "waking up". I'd hate to lose my mind, I'd much rather be dead.
It's like you said, it either requires the rigid gender binary as something to base their transition off (if you like to wear dresses you're a woman) or an internal gender soul, which is how you end up with butch trans lesbians, that's a guy, who feels like a woman, but presents in a masculine manner, but because they're a woman inside that makes them a lesbian. Yeah.
I was thinking the same thing, no one is born with a defined gender identity, your identity arises in response to the body you have. It's impossible to have a "wrong body" because the body comes first, transsexualism is just wrong self-identification caused by some mix of autism and pathological narcissism.
If you placed supposed trannies in a grey cube for 18 years at birth and then released them into the world, would they immediately demand to change their sex?
So many trannies are overly exaggerated ideals of the opposite sex, it just makes me assume it's entirely a social construct. They have the gall to complain about gender stereotypes and then choose to aggressively conform to them.
This.
Ironically for the right, ideals of manliness and womanliness actively reinforce cultural ideas of what men are seen as and what women are seen as. This in turn can inform how someone perceives themselves.
You can't have your cake and eat it too
I feel like you but I wanted to be a boy and just grew out of it. I think it's not that your a pc because I do have an internal dialogue which still makes no sense to me like so NPCs can't think in words and pictures like right now as im typing im saying all this in my head in a type of way.
This is the crux of troony's existence - the concept of 'gender'. Without gender, their argument is null and void - this is why gender concepts were and are immediately accepted as truth without any intense scrutiny. John Money's experiments and proofs of gender have been nothing but failures, but yet his work is considered revolutionary and he is hailed a hero. It's all like The Emporer's New Clothes - keep the facade going to not hurt any feelings until someone comes up and speaks the plain truth. The only difference is that once this plain truth is spoken, everyone covers their ears and goes 'LALALALALALALALALALA' because this truth is considered bigoted and 'un-scientific'.
In a way I agree with you, but there are clear psychological differences between men and women. The types of things we're into, the way we interact with the other sex, our desires, etc
But I'm with you when you say you don't feel necessarily "male" inside, consciousness doesn't feel gendered it's just your inner voice, could be male of female
It's fricking hilarious and sad that the joke of woke politics can't be shut down by rational arguments, because these conservitard talking heads go around making themselves look even more ridiculous.
good commentary but its quite easy to criticize since there is no logical basis for anything the left does its purely menopausal emotional breakdowns over being too mean
>Q
lmao. /misc/ made fun of Q as a israeli psyop long before Qanon was ever even mention on the news. Q was a israeli psyop and it only worked on facebook boomers.
all you've done is appropriate what was put in place for intersex babies who are born with deformed genitals just so you can pull this "some women have penises bullshit". I'll shame you even more for stooping so low just just to adopt your narcissistic fetish bullshit that you had to steal it from children lol
2 years ago
Anonymous
still no fricking replies from the trannies and I'm not supposed to have any argument, come on trannies and troony sympathisers debate me lol
That's not being a centrist. I just think the culture war is fake and gay and everyone that gets obsessed with it starts acting really dumb. I'm not taking a position in the middle. I believe that being a culture warrior literally and unironically causes your brain to malfunction. This is what all normal people know to be true.
You at least agree with me that woketards are dumb, and woketards agree with me that you are dumb.... And everyone who isn't a culture warrior agrees with me that both sides are very dumb.
its completely fine to choose not to participate in the culture war and believe its a waste of time
thats literally been my position for the past 4 years, outside of specific issues
my issue is actually believing both sides are the same
that is low IQ, its moronic
anyone who acts as if they are the same is either moronic or lying about their actual position
I didn't say they're the same. I meant that the mentality of a culture warrior literally causes one's brain to malfunction in very obvious and provable ways, like a state of delerium.
2 years ago
Anonymous
yeah but you're refusing to take a position. by not stating your position you're basically saying they're the same. no-one is forcing you to waste hours arguing over it
2 years ago
Anonymous
A position on troonys? I think they're mostly harmless. Fricking a troony does make you gay but it's no big deal. Pronouns are just words and if you care about pronouns at all then you're not invited to my birthday party.
50% of the population believes in a subjective reality and cannot be reasoned with. The point of the documentary is to mock the fact that a huge chunk of the population just makes up some shit about what a woman is instead of just answering 2 XX chromosomes. Furthermore, subjective reality believers want to put an academic spin on their delusions and put it into law for normal people. Ask a subjective reality believer what color the sky is, and he will say something to effect of "well personally the sky to me represents all the colors..." or "The sky isn't always blue, because sometimes its cloudy, you can't generalize". A very feminine way of thinking, it's no surprise the average woman/troon is a raging lefty.
>tfw my younger brother came out as mtf troony >also my younger sister confessed she's a lesbian a while ago >my family is surprisingly chill with that >"why don't you say something to your brother and sister, anonname? you should be more supportive"
time to move to a different city
Out of all the things I could get me angry about these moronics that he interviewed that one politician somehow took the cake. >gets asked a basic question that anyone from his opposition would ask >starts babbling incoherently stumbling over words >realizes he's making a fool out of himself >runs away
boggles my mind that complete imbeciles like him have even the slightest possibility of introducing new laws
How is this thread on Cinemaphile of all places and a good chunk of you morons act like majority of documentaries don't take a bias position to make a point? I get troonys and right leaning anons want to argue, but the point of "omg he's so dishonest show the full clip!!1" is pants on head moronic
Judging from the trailer it already conforms to my view that you can't change your sex/gender and that transexuals are in the wrong if they believe otherwise. For this reason I'm not sure if I'll learn anything new from watching it
If all trannies were like that one that transitioned in their 40s and was like "I know that I'll never be a man." I would have much MUCH less of a problem with them. I'll play along with your little delusion to make my life easier in the moment, but actually rejecting reality and saying that you are the same as a biological woman or man is simply not true.
your fighting strawman and golems on the right. The people who run the west are trying to subvert and destroy European people with poisonous ideas and your debating drones.
Hey I'm just really passionate about biology and science. That's why this is an important topic. Without science we would be like animals. Science is all that matters.
Can somebody push Matt Walsh and these christcucks on circumcision? Preferably after discussing how his pro troony opponents cut interviews short because they have no real stance. Tired of these pro-israel infant penis mutilators keep having this procedure legal while they ban abortion. I would rather keep my whole dick, but they convinced my parents to go with the flow.
Well I'm a Bong rather than a Burger so different tastes/sensibilities, so because of that i would tell someone it can be a bit cringe in that American kitschy way (like when Walsh basically has the documentary turn into self promotion with his ebin roast of the school panel and that scene with his wife) but still an interesting watch to look at some of the freaks and homosexuals he has to interact with.
>what did we think of it?
It was worthwhile to make something about this subject, but the movie is only half good.
The first half which is just showing troon shills as empty headed buffoons was worthwhile so people can see just how ridiculous there so called scientific arguments are. The second half, especially Walsh’s appearance on Dr. Phil, is kind of a wasted opportunity and comes off more just like a conservative circlejerk.
isn't the question just nonsense in the first place? outside of weimerica and crazy deranged troons nobody even doubts what a woman is.
it's literally not even a coherent doubt someone can have. like how can you grow up learn a language be encultured within a society and then somehow suddenly not know what a woman is?
the whole concept of "clocking" a troony only exists because everyone pre-theoretically understands what it means for a person to be a real woman.
Traps, femboys and trans folk all make better women than average modern obese woman. Men are better at being women than women. You're a gay if you want to frick an average modern obese dyke over a qt trap. Also traps were a huge part of Cinemaphile culture pre 2015 r/donald reddit invasion
When did Cinemaphile hate traps and become a conservaturd Shithole
Oh yeah after the drumpf election when our site traffic went up by 10 times and trad cath zoomer chud teenagers thought this was the aite for then even though they hate anime, traps and anything that was good about classic pre-drumpf election Cinemaphile.
It became cringe when the anime and video game site became the site for a bunch of teenagers to organize the fourth reich. >GUYS WE ARE GOING TO SPEND ALL DAY MAKING FUN OF TROONS AND POLITICAL SOAP BOXING, ON THE ANIME VIDEO GAME SITE ON SATURDAY YEAH I'M FUN AT PARTIES HOW COULD YOU TELL.
Why does everyone pretend this man faced troon is some kind of holy grail of trannies?
more attractive than your average modern american woman who is 60% chance to be obese.
>the fappening ruined my totally troony safe space
i’m glad you get told to commit suicide here every day
it’s what you’re supposed to do to make god happy
/pol/gays hate statistics and knowledge because we can look at the upsurge of users on their board and see that they are all the newbies and won't shut up about muh troony tunes. I've been jerking off to qt traps on Cinemaphile when donald trump was still just the home alone guy. Cinemaphile lost all it's soul after teh election >fun site to talk about animevideo game and traps >now it's just a place for conservation who don't know anything about politics or the economy since they are teenagers to cry about duh troonies
>trad cath zoomers who cry about trannies on saturday morning aren't the most embarrassing cringe people on the planet.
Literally everybody laughs at you, if you left your room and espoused your ideology off of Cinemaphile you would get bullied hard you fricking loser. Don't you have to go suck Ben shapiro's cut israelite wiener you fricking newbie /misc/ garbage?
look at this mad troony thinking he owns the place while simultaneously crying that it isn’t his safe space and is being invaded
dilate
I think it's hilarious that he won't reply to me here lol
all you've done is appropriate what was put in place for intersex babies who are born with deformed genitals just so you can pull this "some women have penises bullshit". I'll shame you even more for stooping so low just just to adopt your narcissistic fetish bullshit that you had to steal it from children lol
inb4 chuds start spewing buzzwords because they can't refute you even though you can look up any thread from 2009-2015 in the archive and notice how this place was completely different before these morons took over
>trad cath zoomers who cry about trannies on saturday morning aren't the most embarrassing cringe people on the planet.
Literally everybody laughs at you, if you left your room and espoused your ideology off of Cinemaphile you would get bullied hard you fricking loser. Don't you have to go suck Ben shapiro's cut israelite wiener you fricking newbie /misc/ garbage?
>Literally everybody laughs at you, if you left your room and espoused your ideology off of Cinemaphile you would get bullied hard you fricking loser.
this sounds like projection about your gender problem
Because hundreds of people on here find her hot and also feel conflicted at how they find her hot.
When did Cinemaphile hate traps and become a conservaturd Shithole
Oh yeah after the drumpf election when our site traffic went up by 10 times and trad cath zoomer chud teenagers thought this was the aite for then even though they hate anime, traps and anything that was good about classic pre-drumpf election Cinemaphile.
This, have you even been on this site for a significant time if you haven't seen a lot of people go >Wait...that's a le guy!? But I got a boner and find him hot FUUUUUUUU
>I am a guffy. I demand that you all recognize me as a guffy. >what is a guffy? >it's something that identifies as a guffy >okay... but what is that? >the definition of a guffy depends on the individual... >ok what's yours? >something that identifies as a guffy. >OK BUT WHAT IS A GUFFY >It's something that has a lot of guffy-ness... part of a guffy-centric lifestyle if you will... it's not that simple... >you're just going in circles, you haven't explained anything...am I a guffy? >I don't know. Are you? >HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW IF YOU DON'T EXPLAIN WHAT IT IS!! >ok, listen, it's not for me to say... >then why do you keep saying it >JUST SHUT UP BIGOT
someone explain to me that if all it means to be a woman is to self identify as one, then why do trannies transition?
how could there even be transgenderism if sex/gender is nothing more than self-identity? That is, if I identify as a woman, but I have a penis, how could there be dysphoria? if I am a woman then my body is already female, so what am I transitioning to? I am female already so why mutilate my body with bizarre unnecessary surgery?
this logic is just so fricked up. if sex is just an identity, then what's to stop me just identifying as a male one day and a female the next? or what I could just walk into a female restroom as a woman but then suddenly "identify" as a male and the police arrest me for being in the wrong restroom?
it's all so fricking stupid. women grow babies inside them, men make the sperm.
>then what's to stop me just identifying as a male one day and a female the next? or what I could just walk into a female restroom as a woman but then suddenly "identify" as a male and the police arrest me for being in the wrong restroom?
their official stance is that it's literally okay for you to do this.
>someone explain to me that if all it means to be a woman is to self identify as one, then why do trannies transition?
Gender dysphoria, homie. It's like with depression, having happy thoughts doesn't make the depression away. Gender dysphoria should go away after get get their HRT and maybe their SRS.
This whole "I identify as..." isn't really supported by all trans women. You could make a thread on /lgbt/ if you wanted to talk about how they feel about "identifying as" something, like if anyone could identify as whatever they want etc.
Just don't let them turn you gay if you do go in there.
This whole "I identify as..." isn't really supported by all trans women. You could make a thread on /lgbt/ if you wanted to talk about how they feel about "identifying as" something, like if anyone could identify as whatever they want etc.
Just don't let them turn you gay if you do go in there.
There are multiple avenues to pro-trans arguments. Hell if I'm not mistaken I think it's become increasingly popular to not go through with srs due to its complications.
I want more crazy beliefs like transgenderism. I want more chaos in society. Can the left create another mental illness that will attract already damaged people, it would really make my day.
You know the Leftwing ideology may have wormed its way into every institution....but its really fricking funny that Leftwingers need ~~*science*~~ to explain what a woman is
it was pretty boring.
it was just a collection of highly edited interviews saying the same shit most anti trans people have been saying for decades.
like if you are slightly informed on this topic 90% of this "movie" is just shit you already know but presented slower and less interesting.
this is a "movie" for normie conservatives.
Does sex/gender even mean anything to the average person or am I just alone in just being like "This is what I am," and that's it. It isn't something I generally think about but some people care about it so much.
Gender only matters to most people in the sense that it's something to be insecure about, like a Cinemaphile nerd thinking, "Am I not masculine enough?", or a tomboy thinking "Am I not feminine enough?". Almost everyone just takes it as a fact of their existence.
Honestly, I think it's harmful for us to accept these new ideas about gender fluidity because it rejects the idea that being a non-masculine man is okay. If gender is just a free choice, and we start measuring gender not on anatomy but on more subjective shit, then insecure men will trick themselves into thinking they're not good men and they must really be women. It's all a big misunderstanding and it will hurt a lot of confused kids some day
I agree, honestly. I think that it's completely okay to be a woman that enjoys more "masculine" things or the reverse, people seem to view it in a lot of black and white. Every person is different, some people are more "traditional" and others aren't and that's okay. Being a woman that enjoys video games and doesn't like make-up or dresses doesn't mean anything, it's just what she personally enjoys -- doesn't mean there's a man on the inside waiting to be set free.
Can I get a QRD? I really don't have any interest in watching, my mind is already made up on the issue. The culture war is over and epicly owning libtards with facts and logic is not going to make the pendulum swing back in the other direction.
I wonder what will happen in the future when we will be able to build ai and they will identify themselves as women. Do you think the left will let it happen or will they face the hypocrisy of their logic?
if we take the writer's answer that a woman is anyone with a female identity, that means drag queens are women. Because if there is nothing in biology that makes someone inherently a man or a woman, and social acceptance/appearance is what actually defines masculine and feminine, then if a man dresses in drag well enough to fool people into thinking he is a woman, he is a woman.
didn't watch it
Dilate
this
I already had biology 101 in school.
frick off chud
Dilation isn't just for turkeys.
he looks like a bugman
Sneed
Why the choker? Oh right the adam’s apple. Lol
that is not wehre the adams apple is located lol
Would gladly shove my wiener down her throat and cum all over her glasses
Gay
How can you come on his glasses when your dick is down his throat???
Think, anon, think.
I cum a lot
>literally just porn addicts fetishizing women
awesome
I don't care about semantics or mental gymnastics, every single person who sees a troony thinks the same thing -- "that is a man in a dress, I must address him with 'she / her' and play along with the charade out of politeness"
I think "Oh look it's one of those mentally ill dudes I wish I could stomp his head in but instead I'll just cross the street".
Text book projection
No, he's right.
You can call yourself anything you want. That's fine. You just can't force normal people to play pretend with you.
That's the issue.
Correct, going to college these days is a fricking pain in the ass. You have to be PC af, I study in eastern eu and one of my lectures about languages focused on Trump vs Obama. The lecturer kept talking how orange man bad despite nobody giving a frick bout the USA. He even played us a yt video of John Oliver making fun of trump and said " You know John Oliver? He's great isn't he"
Jesus Christ, that sounds terrible. What country? I thought eastern Europe was supposed to be better? I did my Bachelor's degree here in Germany and spent exactly 0 hours on subjects that weren't STEM, thank God.
Poland, the lecturer even shares a perfect resemblence with the onions memes (glasses, long beard, big hairdo like that one weed smoking basedboy that used to get spammed constantly)
What are you studying? How to be a complete homosexual?
Yes
No
I stopped with my university visual arts(concept art and 3d artist) in the Netherlands(although most of the students and teachers came from outside the Netherlands) because I only needed to work with these fricking weirdos. My teacher got mad when we had a group assignment and you could only choose in our video game between a boy or girl. Now I work as a construction project planner, and damn working with carpenters is so much easier because the aren't woke.
>asks professor "what is a woman"
>he gives a detailed response
>it is edited out and mocked
I mean regardless of your political opinion, this whole project was just bad filmaking. It pretends to be a documentary about answering the title question, when in reality it's just some attention whoring alt right chud play actin some frankenstein mix of ben shapiro and louie theroux.
I'd be really interested in seeing the full interviews, just to see how biased the editing process was.
also the ending was mega cringe
nice reddit spacing troony
reddit spacing is a thing and you did it
this doesn’t make you look good reddit
I didn't write anything
I thought while watching that this movie would be very unconvincing to someone from the other side but at least somewhat informative for people of his own side.
99% of the professors basically say something akin to "it's a socially construed category" to which he asks if he is a woman, to which they have no fricking answer
It's edited out and mocked because it's a bunch of elaborate mental gymnatics that obfuscate reality by hiding behind a veneer of intellectualism
Who would know if that's true when the documentary is so obviously biased? All the moron creators did was shoot themselves in the foot, conservitards seem incapable of steelmanning
I mean... That's the point.
>incapable of steelmanning
Precisely this. That's all these cowards need to do to win people over to their side who've got more than two brain cells to rub together. But it would mean intellectual work, which they're too lazy to actually do.
I would be fascinated to hear what you think a "steel man" version of the transgender agenda sounds like.
do your own homework
>conservitards seem incapable of steelmanning
yeah the left is really really good at that
>It's edited out and mocked because it's a bunch of elaborate mental gymnatics that obfuscate reality by hiding behind a veneer of intellectualism
then like I say it's bad documentary filmaking. If he was sincere in his search to answer the question, why doesn't in good faith listen to the professors opinion?
It's clear he set up the interview with an agenda and a pre-formed conclusion on what a woman is (i.e. as the ending concludes "adult human female"), and is just looking for cherry picked quotes and soundbites to outrage those who agree with the same opinion.
What's the point of this type of filmmaking? It's insincere, and I can see why multiple people ended the interviews. Imagine being a professor or a politician and somebody sets up an interview to ask for your opinions etc for a documentary, and he turns up with these baity loaded questions obviously pushing an agenda. It's just a waste of time. Nobody will be convinced either way by this. If you hate trannies you will watch this and continue to hate. If you hate chuds you'll watch this and continue to hate chuds. Achieves nothing, elaborates nothing, just perpetuates this stupid culture war that serves only to divide people further.
>why doesn't in good faith listen
he did and they got butthurt that he was even asking and went straight into the batshit circular reasoning that leftists need to employ to justify the unrepentant paedophillic evil that is queer theory
nice blog post, homosexual
What? The interviewees were given the questions before hand. The college professor is an actual moron if he can't accept being challenged by a guy with a question. College is suppose to challenging. The documentary guy went to people who have the most authority relating to gender studies and he finds out that they can't form an answer that isn't circular. Also of course the documentary is biased, every documentary has a bias. Please seek help to de-trans my brother.
>that isn't circular.
"A woman is a person who identifies as a woman" is not circular reasoning if you think about if for more than a second (especially when you cross reference it with the professor's edited down statement) and Matt Walsh is a moron for stating otherwise
How is it not circular? You are asking for the definition of something and the person replies with a definition that relies on the word you want defined.
I don't the definition of a word is a matter of logic. Like if you run around telling people they're using words wrong you're just an butthole. Call trannies men, call them women, call them attack helicopters, who gives a frick.
>ESL
Good thing only mentally ill people think like you! We use words because these words have definitions to them. These definitions explain the worlds without being circular. This is why when you search up the definition of a woman you get "an adult female". Not "a woman is a woman", if you don't accept this then create your own form of language that has warped circular definitions.
>a woman is a female
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/female
fe·male | ˈfē-ˌmāl
Definition of female (Entry 1 of 2)
1a(1) : of, relating to, or being the sex that typically has the capacity to bear young or produce eggs
In a field of milkweed, I watched a female monarch butterfly deposit a single egg on the underside of a leaf.
— Tom Tyning
A few months later, she became the highest paid female performer on the Great White Way.
— Susannah McCorkle
(2) botany : having or producing only pistils or pistillate flowers
a female holly
female inflorescences
b : having a gender identity that is the opposite of male
c : made up of usually adult members of the female sex : consisting of females
the female workforce
d : characteristic of girls, women, or the female sex : exhibiting femaleness
composed for female voices
a female name
e : designed for or typically used by girls or women
a female glove
f : engaged in or exercised by girls or women
female suffrage
female political power
g : having a quality (such as small size or delicacy of sound) sometimes associated with the female sex
The way I read that it applies to both trans women and cis women, but it's cool if you disagree. People don't have to agree on everything.
>of, relating to, or being the sex that typically has the capacity to bear young or produce eggs
Yes, this is what we accept is what a female is. So a woman is an adult female. Thanks for proving my answer?
Because (from the perspective of the professor) there are no inherent qualifiers to it outside the individual's decision to identify with the term.
Sure the word has connotations to conventional womanliness which women no doubt identify with, but those connotations aren't set in stone so the closest thing to a concrete answer from this perspective would be 'one who identifies with this term is what defines the term'.
If you were to play devil's advocate and agree that concepts conventionally associated with being a woman (wearing a dress, make up etc) aren't enough to conceive of a solid truth of womanliness, then the only remaining answer is that the term itself is what people identify with, and that term has varying connotations depending on where you live and where you grew up.
I tried really hard to avoid using the word 'fluid' because using words that are perceived as overused whips people into a frenzy
HAHAHAHAHA. Good thing nobody with power agrees with you here. You are trying to butcher the english language here. People do not go around saying that they are a door because they have feel like they are. We categorize matter by words that represent what they are. The woman definition categorizes adult females, you either fit this description or you are not a woman. You will never change this definition.
b-but if I pretend real hard I can be a Su-37 Super Flanker and fligh and rain hell on the ground, right? don't take that away from me
>Because (from the perspective of the professor) there are no inherent qualifiers to it outside the individual's decision to identify with the term.
But that is the underlying issue. Identifying as a thing isn't the same as defining the thing itself. You can define a tree, or the concept of a tree; identifying as a tree is another matter. And when you get into immaterial issues, like social constructs, it becomes even more muddied with nonsense.
>but those connotations aren't set in stone so the closest thing to a concrete answer from this perspective would be 'one who identifies with this term is what defines the term'.
That's the circular portion those people were pointing out.
>If you were to play devil's advocate and agree that concepts conventionally associated with being a woman (wearing a dress, make up etc) aren't enough to conceive of a solid truth of womanliness, then the only remaining answer is that the term itself is what people identify with, and that term has varying connotations depending on where you live and where you grew up.
Pointing out the materialist error of experience is the only good portion of this. The latter is a non-answer, i.e. relativism. People can agree those ideas vary by X and Y, but the only time people really use it as a response is because they have no answer themselves. You ask them what THEY define it as, and they invoke relativity.
>You ask them what THEY define it as, and they invoke relativity
But to play doubles advocate, it's the same for men. You take a particular class of people - those who identify as men (which would include transmen, men who lost their tesiticles or penises, infertile men, men with pubertal and developmental disorders, men with feminine mannerisms, etc), and ask them WHAT specifically they are identifying as? You're going to get a wide array of answers depending on culture upbringing, scientific and religious leanings, etc. What can you really even conclude about this group of people other that they identify as men/male? what's the common denominator?
self identity is arbitrary and a non scientific aspect
no he answered it fully. basically being a woman is nothing over and above a statement of self identity. if you identify as a woman, you're a woman. there is nothing physical or material to womanhood over and above this.
obviously this is moronic, but it's not circular.
the filmmaker just keeps saying yeah BUT WHAT!! are you identifying as, and he can't articulate it because the troon agenda has reduced womanhood/female to nothing over and above self identification as a woman, so there is no way to define it further. if someone claims to be a woman they're a woman.
it's moronic, but it's not circular. this is the end result of the troony agenda. they want their male dicks in every single female space without pushback, and the only way to acheive this is to complete reduce the concept of being a woman to nothing over and above the mere claim that you are one.
there is truly no depth to male depravity. they will say or do anything to invade female spaces, including utterly destroying the concept of womanhood, denying physical reality, denying science, biology, denying the concept of sex itself - all to get their dicks near women, to dominate female sports, to impose their MALENESS in female spaces. evil.
>they will say or do anything to invade female spaces, including utterly destroying the concept of womanhood, denying physical reality, denying science, biology, denying the concept of sex itself - all to get their dicks near women, to dominate female sports, to impose their MALENESS in female spaces.
Trannies are based?
you could use this brain to actually respond in a sincere way next time please
what is this stupid bait
I'm right because I'm right. Is not circular and it also means you're wrong. Sorry, try next time, but won't work because I'm right because I'm right.
youre right because you IDENTIFY as right, you mean, lets not be insensitive to transwrongs, its 2022
if you identify as something it turns you into that something, sorry, I'm right
>gives a detailed response
"adult human female"
2 seconds, 100% accurate
"detailed response" bullshit is just israeli tricks.
dude he spent half the fricking film mocking people for circular definitions and then his grand conclusion is that a woman is a female...
the whole fricking point is what is a female. chromosomes? sex characteristics? reproductive organs? socialization? an internal sense of self-identity?
It's not so simple. There's chromosomal disorders, hysterectomies, developmental disorders, intersex, etc, etc, but most importantly there are people with all the typical physical characteristics of what we deem female - who strongly self identify and claim to be male, and in a legal sense in a lot of countries now, ARE male.
>There's chromosomal disorders, hysterectomies, developmental disorders, intersex, etc, etc,
I don't really believe in the "men have a dick women have a vegana that's basic biology!" Argument - I mean if someone feels that way then they're valid, but I've only seen like three veganas in my life so to say that I define womanhood on something I've barely seen is kind of weird to me. Again, if you feel that when then that's cool. But also the "what about intersex people" is just a hat on a hat of mental gymnastics in my opinion and the people who use that argument don't really believe in the "basic biology nuff said" stuff either so what's the fricking point?
huh? the point is that some intersex people can outwardly present and be accepted as male or female. and so when people say a woman is anyone with two x chromosomes the point is that there are clear cases where that's not true.
Right, but if you don't agree with the premise in the first place,... I don't think you would agree with it even if intersex people didn't exist.
Or, that's true for most people who take your position. They disagree with the "basic biology nuff said" for ontological reasons, plus they're probably gay for troony dick.
>and so when people say a woman is anyone with two x chromosomes the point is that there are clear cases where that's not true.
Exception that proves the rule anon.
How do you explain the existence of intersex people without reference to the reality of the XX/XY gender/sex binary?
Even if intersex people exist, how the frick does that enable any non-intersex XY man to be considered a woman. It doesn't and it shouldn't.
Basic biology
It doesn't and shouldn't, and I never implied that it did anon. I was trying to explain to the other anon that exceptions to rules do not disprove the rules, rathertx they reinforce them.
Yep, you'd expect to find fuzzy edges in almost any biological binary. Because nature isn't perfect and mistakes happen. The fact those mistakes often result in non viability or sterility just further strengthens the binary
the vast majority of trannies aren't people who are born intersex. they're just males and females who for one reason or other want others to pretend they are the opposite sex.
Intersex is such a rare and uncommon genetic defect there is no reason to redefine what a woman or a man is around them.
>It's not so simple.
it is simple
humans have 2 hands with 5 fingers on each
if you don't it's because you have fricked up genetics or were injured, therefore outside the norm.
if you chop off a dude's dick he doesn't transform into some wonderful new gender, he's just a mutilated dude.
If i take a demo saw to a toyota it's a fricked up toyota, you don't need to include a new wiki page for a rare camry variant, you've just fricked up a car.
describe a human with you're fricked up israeli inclusivity gobleyasiatic
what does a human look like and remember to include those fricked up inside out mercury poisoned indian stillborns
What about the Toyota that's actually a BMW? The new supra... The troony of cars...
>humans have 2 hands with 5 fingers on each
Anon?
>who strongly self identify and claim to be male
If I claim to be a dog, then I am a dog, right.
That's between you and your kennel master.
just because a small percentage of people are born without legs, it does not mean that the phrase "humans are bipedal" is false, you're confusing the exception for the rule, because you have brain AIDS
>There's disorders
Yeah that's what all this gender bullshit boils down too. Chromosomal and mental disorders.
>in a legal sense in a lot of countries now, ARE male.
They aren't male, though. They can be legally defined as such under pain of death if you misgender them, but they don't BECOME male. It doesn't matter how hard you scream that 2+2 equals 5 and anyone who disagrees with you is a bigot, you can't change reality.
Yep, fiction is fiction even if the law backs it up. Then it's just legal fiction
that's not how post-modernism works, bud
I feel like yes, those people are authoritarians, but... There are cool trans people in the world. Bailey Jay was the original queen of /b/ and would post here all the time. Her words were "I don't care if you see me as a man or woman but everyone who sees me as a man seems to hate me, for some reason, so..."
Like he/she/whatever isn't responsible for cultural Marxism and it's really unfair to put that on her of that's what you're doing.
>I feel like
*you think, you believe. Please stop abusing the English language.
Actually feelings and thoughts and beliefs are highly intertwined. The moar you know!
i went to buy gloves the other day and found, to my surprise, they had 5 fingers.
how odd
how did the manufacturers know I had 5 fingers
i was specifically looking for 5 fingered gloves and to my luck, they had them.
but humans have all number of fingers right?
isn't it weird that gloves have 5 though?
I've been trying to work this out, because if you asked me what a human hand looked like i'd say "what even is a human?, I literally can't tell you"
I can't tell a human from a kangaroo
i usually ask an entity i'm interacting with, in every imaginable form of communication i can produce if they identify as human before i assume.
it takes me 6 years to buy milk because of this.
Altright has infiltrated the glove industry and is forcing the manufacturers to only make cis-normative gloves.
For shame.
>dude he spent half the fricking film mocking people for circular definitions and then his grand conclusion is that a woman is a female...
>the whole fricking point is what is a female
no that has never been the point. trannies and their defenders have usually argued that there is a difference between biological sex (a physical reality) and 'gender' (a social construct) and that trans people choose the gender that most suits them.
It's only now that their opposition has begun to put its foot down about biological sex being the key to defining a woman that you and your ilk have shifted to "well what is biological sex anyway?"
Once the option to deconstruct gender is shut in your face you then jump to trying to deconstruct biological sex.
Damn
can the liberal itt respond to this post? please?
I've personally never heard of (nor do I agree with) the idea that sex is being deconstructed as a cope.
If the opposition is 'putting their foot down' and insists that biological sex is the key defining aspect of a woman (they've been doing this since day 1 by the way, this is by no means a recent talking point, it's the backbone of the entire rhetoric) then the argument against that would be (as it's always been) that biological sex isn't enough to define a woman in a true way based on what a woman is seen as treated as on a cultural and societal level.
I'm not trying to argue here or anything I just wanted to address the phoney implication that this post somehow definitively won the argument lol
this post has nothing in it can you try again but with an argument or something
It's literally in the post. The idea that the left is 'now suddenly trying to deconstruct biological sex after we put our foot down'! is bunkem.
The liberal perspective has always generally surrounded the ideas of gender and how they relate to and differ from biological sex.
see what you’re doing is worthless tho
you aren’t actually participating in the discussion
It's not a discussion the entire post I was responding to isn't making an argument.
But I can break it down for you if you'd like
> trannies and their defenders have usually argued that there is a difference between biological sex (a physical reality) and 'gender' (a social construct) and that trans people choose the gender that most suits them.
Yes, this is generally one of the main talking point behind being pro-trans
>It's only now that their opposition has begun to put its foot down about biological sex being the key to defining a woman
"Only now that their opposition has begun to put its foot down" is false, isn't 'biological sex is the key to defining a woman' the central talking point behind anti-trans rhetoric? No one behind this argument has suddenly decided to 'put their foot down', it's clear as day what both sides think on the matter.
>you and your ilk have shifted to "well what is biological sex anyway?"
I've personally never heard of 'deconstructing biological sex' as a genuine argument that a majority of pro-trans people have said. As stated above I sincerely don't believe this is a thing that regularly happens as the idea that gender is separate from sex (according to pro-trans rhetoric) does not require sex to be deconstructed.
>Once the option to deconstruct gender is shut in your face you then jump to trying to deconstruct biological sex.
Who 'shut' this option in anyone's face? The pro-trans side hasn't suddenly stopped arguing that gender is deconstructable.
Hope that clears things up. Again, I'm not trying to participate in an argument for or against here, I just think the original post I responded to was a bunch of baloney and it seemed dishonest to imply that liberals were incapable of addressing whatever """argument""" it was trying to present
a lot of words for a no true scotsman landscape to be painted
i don’t care about your framing dude why are you still framing other peoples opinions for me
Do you seriously think that post was making a good point?
You don't see what I mean at all by claiming that him saying things like "Only now that we're putting our foot down" and "once x option is shut in your face" doesn't add up?
i’m now confused as to what we’re talking about specifically
i was criticizing his post for different reasons i think
you don’t get to define anything
it’s not up to you
you aren’t god
It's not up to you either
correct and i never implied it was
Ok then, how many chromosomes does the human species have? 46 or should we consider those few exceptions that have mutations? They're mutations for a reason
>a woman is a female
99.9999% of all human females that have ever lived were women.
so yes saying that a woman is an adult female human is accurate.
i wonder who made this post
Honestly, the proffesor was a b***h, he seems about to cry at every uncomfortable question, he just shouldnt have agreed to the interview and let someone more capable of debating handle the situation, then again, ~~*walsh*~~ wouldnt have his movie
well I would imagine there was some really shady shit going on in setting up these interviews. I would bet money it was sold as something like
"hey I'm a documentary filmaker doing an expose on the topic of sex and gender in american society and I'd appreciate hearing from a professor on this topic", for example.
and then obviously he comes in with an agenda and starts a debate and then cynically edits the reponses.
it's all just more of this culture war bullshit. an interview isn't supposed to be a debate and yes that professor was a little b***h liberal homosexual but he made some decent points questioning the interviewers motivation, why he was so interested in this topic, why he's asking these questions etc. clearly he realised this wasn't a genuine interview and the guy had an agenda and he was being used and having his time wasted. if I was him I'd end the interview as well.
it's like if ben shapiro set up an interview with a rap artist and then started a debate with the guy over whether "rap is music".
>why he's asking these questions
questions bad!
why bad man ask question?
only question should be "how can i serve LBGTIQRSTUVWX123 more fully"
Imagine being unable to defend your position and then saying "uh the guy who set up the interview didn't tell me he was going to challenge me so it doesn't count".
It'd be one thing if Walsh ambushed him with a bunch of studies and documents, but he was asking a basic question that the guy was incapable of answering.
he answered the question and it was edited over.
>he answered the question and it was edited over.
So the professor in question must've clarified his position online somewhere, what was his answer? I mean, it's a pretty basic question, and none of these guys have ever provided any answer that makes even a vague shred of sense, but according to you he's got it figured out and the documentary portrayed him dishonestly.
according to whom?
it was edited over in the documentary moron, literally put stupid sound effects over it. just because someone answers a question in a way you disagree with doesn't mean it wasn't answered.
like I say, why even bother looking for an answer to a question when you've preformed a conclusion and then edit over anyone who presents an opposing viewpoint? why even seek out an opposing viewpoint if you just edit it out? this documentary sucked.
>and we played the first thing that came to our heads and it just so happned to be
>THE BEST troony AFFIRMING ANSWER IN THE WORLD
>IT WAS THE BEST troony AFFIRMING ANSWER IN THE WORLD.
>this is not the greatest troony affirming answer in the world..it is just an excuse
>just because someone answers a question in a way you disagree with
The question wasn't answered, though. In fact, the professor involved outright stated that he couldn't answer the question in the interview, because he was asked to define woman without using the word woman in the definition, and he couldn't do it.
If I tell you I like florpies, and you ask me what a florpie is, would you take "a florpie is a florpie" as an answer?
what was his answer?
what was it then?
literal proof of a gendered soul?
Ok like who?
how was it edited it?
Honestly this. I still don't think trannies are female though.
The insults invalidate your argument.
The only interesting part about it is the part where he goes to a african tribe and when he asks if there's anything beyond man and woman they're just fricking confused and straight up say that you're either one or the either and if you don't believe that you're mentally ill
>50 iq unga bunga tribes people with no intellect
And they still get it.
When you're in a racism competition and your opponent is a liberal
>The only interesting part about it is the part where he goes to a african tribe and when he asks if there's anything beyond man and woman they're just fricking confused and straight up say that you're either one or the either and if you don't believe that you're mentally
If only he goes to sulawesi and met bugis tribe
Apparently, he only visits one African tribe and he refutes gender fluidity in all indigenous cultures because of that one tribe.
Says it all, really.
It's really good!
does troonyism even make sense without reference to an inner gendered soul or self that somehow inhabits one's body like a little homunculus.
It just makes zero sense to me how someone can feel incongruent with their bodies sex. I just don't get it. If my body were somehow made into a females overnight, aside from the shock factor, I wouldn't feel an 'incongruence' because I am not internally a male that just so happens to match my physical body, but rather I am male bodied, and there is no internal gendered self that inhabits this body.
I just actually feel like an npc when trannies make their arguments talking about their inner self and 'feminine' nature and "born in the wrong body", as if god a made a mistake when he put their soul into their body.
there is just your body, not some extra, internal gendered thing/self/soul that inhabits it. if my body becomes female then what changes for me other than my body having different features?
Suck a troony's dick and get it over with.
>if my body becomes female then what changes for me other than my body having different features?
I feel like if you became a woman overnight, it'd be pretty horrible.
The best way I can explain it is like when you're lucid dreaming. In a dream, I'm very obviously mentally impaired. Things that should be obvious become incredibly hard to understand, and only when I wake up do I understand them and feel annoyed at how stupid I was.
That's what being a woman would be like, but with no guarantee of ever "waking up". I'd hate to lose my mind, I'd much rather be dead.
What if your mind stayed the same
It wouldn't, genetics decides how your mind performs.
It's like you said, it either requires the rigid gender binary as something to base their transition off (if you like to wear dresses you're a woman) or an internal gender soul, which is how you end up with butch trans lesbians, that's a guy, who feels like a woman, but presents in a masculine manner, but because they're a woman inside that makes them a lesbian. Yeah.
I was thinking the same thing, no one is born with a defined gender identity, your identity arises in response to the body you have. It's impossible to have a "wrong body" because the body comes first, transsexualism is just wrong self-identification caused by some mix of autism and pathological narcissism.
Worse, it's just a sexual fetish for most men
If you placed supposed trannies in a grey cube for 18 years at birth and then released them into the world, would they immediately demand to change their sex?
So many trannies are overly exaggerated ideals of the opposite sex, it just makes me assume it's entirely a social construct. They have the gall to complain about gender stereotypes and then choose to aggressively conform to them.
>They have the gall to complain about gender stereotypes
Without stereotypes there is no gender and without gender there is no transgenderism.
good, because gender doesn't exist
Yeah, it is useless if not outright harmful invention
This.
Ironically for the right, ideals of manliness and womanliness actively reinforce cultural ideas of what men are seen as and what women are seen as. This in turn can inform how someone perceives themselves.
You can't have your cake and eat it too
I feel like you but I wanted to be a boy and just grew out of it. I think it's not that your a pc because I do have an internal dialogue which still makes no sense to me like so NPCs can't think in words and pictures like right now as im typing im saying all this in my head in a type of way.
can a liberal reply to this please?
This is the crux of troony's existence - the concept of 'gender'. Without gender, their argument is null and void - this is why gender concepts were and are immediately accepted as truth without any intense scrutiny. John Money's experiments and proofs of gender have been nothing but failures, but yet his work is considered revolutionary and he is hailed a hero. It's all like The Emporer's New Clothes - keep the facade going to not hurt any feelings until someone comes up and speaks the plain truth. The only difference is that once this plain truth is spoken, everyone covers their ears and goes 'LALALALALALALALALALA' because this truth is considered bigoted and 'un-scientific'.
It's all part of the agenda of cultural Marxism, created by ~~*you know who*~~.
can a liberal reply to this please?
Liberals are not allowed to reply
unbelievable
In a way I agree with you, but there are clear psychological differences between men and women. The types of things we're into, the way we interact with the other sex, our desires, etc
But I'm with you when you say you don't feel necessarily "male" inside, consciousness doesn't feel gendered it's just your inner voice, could be male of female
>are trannies just schizophrenic/autistic/trendfollowing/moronic ?
Yes
Docukino. It shall be remembered for eons
So umm...what is a woman exactly?
Ever heard of a dictionary? That's usually what I use when I have a moronic question like that.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/woman
ask a lib if you can "innately know" you're an eskimo, even though you're a hispanic presenting dude from california.
what is an eskimo except a social construct?
i know as much about being an eskimo as ellen page does about being a man.
I innately know I'm an attack helicopter.
It's fricking hilarious and sad that the joke of woke politics can't be shut down by rational arguments, because these conservitard talking heads go around making themselves look even more ridiculous.
Both sides of the culture war are mentally disabled.
good commentary but its quite easy to criticize since there is no logical basis for anything the left does its purely menopausal emotional breakdowns over being too mean
meant quite easy to criticize gender theory*
Graduate high school
female tier character attacks and no argument as expected
thanks both sides genius
It was just a guess that you're either in high school or maybe just graduated and bingo I'm obviously right.
thanks for doubling down on your female tier arguments much appreciated
thanks for confirming your sub 80 IQ
Welcome
Almost as good a documentary as picrel.
It is explained why americucks mutilates their sons, so they can never experience a complete male orgasm not even once in their life?
>both sides
kek, you're probably 80 IQ or lower and definitely a subhuman
You sound really smart enjoy your culture war I bet you win.
the best part was when he asked the doctor if giving hormones to children may have long time side effects, and the doctor stopped the interview
Doctor couldn't answer that
Oh nice a /misc/ psy-ops thread
>is /misc/ in the room right now?
Is your dad in your life right now?
>Are there any b***hes in your room right now?
You CHUDS are STILL spreading toxic dangerous transphobic misinformation? That's it, no more Mr. Nice Guy -- ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
MAYONNAISE CHUD, your toxic rhetoric will NOT divide us.
Mayonnaise CHUD, we do not forget. We do not forgive. You have been warned.
We are the Chudbusters. Mayonnaise Chud of Chuddonnaise, consider yourself WARNED. This is ChudWATCH.
Chudbuster OUT.
imagine making a film and ending up looking more moronic than a woman asking if a chicken commits suicide
>le both sides
>so dumb LOL this guy is le moron
wow I wonder the trans freaks that could be behind these posts
No you're right the /misc/tard side of the culture war is totally smart Q is real.
>Q
lmao. /misc/ made fun of Q as a israeli psyop long before Qanon was ever even mention on the news. Q was a israeli psyop and it only worked on facebook boomers.
Cope
>Cop-ACK
REEEEE
>cant argue
>one joke
Every frickin time
>hahaha trans bad
Yup, one joke
Typical alt-right
all you've done is appropriate what was put in place for intersex babies who are born with deformed genitals just so you can pull this "some women have penises bullshit". I'll shame you even more for stooping so low just just to adopt your narcissistic fetish bullshit that you had to steal it from children lol
still no fricking replies from the trannies and I'm not supposed to have any argument, come on trannies and troony sympathisers debate me lol
Its pic related in a nutshell which is based and triggers lefty /misc/
>we need a right wing urban bugman
When did Cinemaphile start hating transfolx? Is this a /misc/ psyop?
does the fact that he looks like a quintessential soi boi lure his targets into a false sense of security?
>mfw I'm a troony homosexual and I pretend to be a centrist but nobody is buying it
What is your centrist position?
uhh both sides are equally bad 🙂
That's not being a centrist. I just think the culture war is fake and gay and everyone that gets obsessed with it starts acting really dumb. I'm not taking a position in the middle. I believe that being a culture warrior literally and unironically causes your brain to malfunction. This is what all normal people know to be true.
You at least agree with me that woketards are dumb, and woketards agree with me that you are dumb.... And everyone who isn't a culture warrior agrees with me that both sides are very dumb.
its completely fine to choose not to participate in the culture war and believe its a waste of time
thats literally been my position for the past 4 years, outside of specific issues
my issue is actually believing both sides are the same
that is low IQ, its moronic
anyone who acts as if they are the same is either moronic or lying about their actual position
I didn't say they're the same. I meant that the mentality of a culture warrior literally causes one's brain to malfunction in very obvious and provable ways, like a state of delerium.
yeah but you're refusing to take a position. by not stating your position you're basically saying they're the same. no-one is forcing you to waste hours arguing over it
A position on troonys? I think they're mostly harmless. Fricking a troony does make you gay but it's no big deal. Pronouns are just words and if you care about pronouns at all then you're not invited to my birthday party.
you're a leftist then
proves my point
What? Lol
a woman? they're those things with veganas in em right?
50% of the population believes in a subjective reality and cannot be reasoned with. The point of the documentary is to mock the fact that a huge chunk of the population just makes up some shit about what a woman is instead of just answering 2 XX chromosomes. Furthermore, subjective reality believers want to put an academic spin on their delusions and put it into law for normal people. Ask a subjective reality believer what color the sky is, and he will say something to effect of "well personally the sky to me represents all the colors..." or "The sky isn't always blue, because sometimes its cloudy, you can't generalize". A very feminine way of thinking, it's no surprise the average woman/troon is a raging lefty.
This doesn't seem very capitalism resistancy
BASED and REDPILLED Matt Walsh vehemently defending circumcision
It IS pretty funny how the whole glass israel thing is now firmly on the left side of the political spectrum.
i keep seeing hating israelites and defending israel in the same post, Cinemaphile you are a mystery to me
Show me 1 post like that.
>the only country on earth that can be declared israeli, full of israeli monuments and historical places
>totally not related to judaism
gommie, pls
Cash grab, nothing new was learned by anyone
I know what is a woman. I don't need a shitty "redpilled" """""documentary""""""" to tell me this. Right homosexuals are as bad as the leftists.
you're a homosexual
>tfw my younger brother came out as mtf troony
>also my younger sister confessed she's a lesbian a while ago
>my family is surprisingly chill with that
>"why don't you say something to your brother and sister, anonname? you should be more supportive"
time to move to a different city
I’m sorry for your loss
rape your sister until she craves wiener
I didn't see it but I'm glad trannies are seething
the left are going to ultimately win and you will always be a fragile white incel
What got overturned yesterday 🙂
Out of all the things I could get me angry about these moronics that he interviewed that one politician somehow took the cake.
>gets asked a basic question that anyone from his opposition would ask
>starts babbling incoherently stumbling over words
>realizes he's making a fool out of himself
>runs away
boggles my mind that complete imbeciles like him have even the slightest possibility of introducing new laws
How is this thread on Cinemaphile of all places and a good chunk of you morons act like majority of documentaries don't take a bias position to make a point? I get troonys and right leaning anons want to argue, but the point of "omg he's so dishonest show the full clip!!1" is pants on head moronic
>most documentaries are trash
Word
One joke.
Judging from the trailer it already conforms to my view that you can't change your sex/gender and that transexuals are in the wrong if they believe otherwise. For this reason I'm not sure if I'll learn anything new from watching it
Everyone in the film knows what a women is, some just want to force people into accepting a "Correct" view on it.
If all trannies were like that one that transitioned in their 40s and was like "I know that I'll never be a man." I would have much MUCH less of a problem with them. I'll play along with your little delusion to make my life easier in the moment, but actually rejecting reality and saying that you are the same as a biological woman or man is simply not true.
troonys are going to rape you in the eye and steal your lunch money if you're not careful. They're in cahoots with the israelites and the blacks.
Why is making Pfizer even richer such an important thing for trannies?
Matt Walsh looks like a massive basedboy lmao
>soi filter is still around
yikes
a woman is an adult human with two X chromosomes
the fact this is up for debate shows how fricked society is
We need to make sure people respect science or all is doomed.
>shows how fricked society is
Only in America. But you've always been fricked.
>Only in America.
I wish, Satan. It's all over the western world
>Only in America. But you've always been fricked.
i'm irish
>what is a woman?
A human who was born as a female with female chromosomes and female reproductive organs.
>yeah, but what if-
No. No mental gymnastics, no bullshit israeli gender philosophy, no jaunts into fantasy land hugboxes, just no.
I love that the left is doubling down on this ridiculous belief. Also yeah it's pretty good.
your fighting strawman and golems on the right. The people who run the west are trying to subvert and destroy European people with poisonous ideas and your debating drones.
Hey I'm just really passionate about biology and science. That's why this is an important topic. Without science we would be like animals. Science is all that matters.
Can somebody push Matt Walsh and these christcucks on circumcision? Preferably after discussing how his pro troony opponents cut interviews short because they have no real stance. Tired of these pro-israel infant penis mutilators keep having this procedure legal while they ban abortion. I would rather keep my whole dick, but they convinced my parents to go with the flow.
Unironically a miserable pile of lies
i literally don't care about twitter / pol meltdown movies
Important movie. Normies need to know about the insane gender ideology
this is a woman
I can't tell, with those filters literally could be anything
Well I'm a Bong rather than a Burger so different tastes/sensibilities, so because of that i would tell someone it can be a bit cringe in that American kitschy way (like when Walsh basically has the documentary turn into self promotion with his ebin roast of the school panel and that scene with his wife) but still an interesting watch to look at some of the freaks and homosexuals he has to interact with.
Based
no, cringe.
When did Cinemaphile become full of terfs? Is this a /u/ psyop?
>what did we think of it?
It was worthwhile to make something about this subject, but the movie is only half good.
The first half which is just showing troon shills as empty headed buffoons was worthwhile so people can see just how ridiculous there so called scientific arguments are. The second half, especially Walsh’s appearance on Dr. Phil, is kind of a wasted opportunity and comes off more just like a conservative circlejerk.
itt: troony invasion
isn't the question just nonsense in the first place? outside of weimerica and crazy deranged troons nobody even doubts what a woman is.
it's literally not even a coherent doubt someone can have. like how can you grow up learn a language be encultured within a society and then somehow suddenly not know what a woman is?
the whole concept of "clocking" a troony only exists because everyone pre-theoretically understands what it means for a person to be a real woman.
Traps, femboys and trans folk all make better women than average modern obese woman. Men are better at being women than women. You're a gay if you want to frick an average modern obese dyke over a qt trap. Also traps were a huge part of Cinemaphile culture pre 2015 r/donald reddit invasion
thats why i only want to frick little girls
the best of both worlds
Im not watching your shit, israelite.
That's just not how I read it, sorry, but you're valid.
When did Cinemaphile hate traps and become a conservaturd Shithole
Oh yeah after the drumpf election when our site traffic went up by 10 times and trad cath zoomer chud teenagers thought this was the aite for then even though they hate anime, traps and anything that was good about classic pre-drumpf election Cinemaphile.
your hurt feelings don’t allow you to have an accurate view of this context
you want Cinemaphile to be cringe, we get it
bye
It became cringe when the anime and video game site became the site for a bunch of teenagers to organize the fourth reich.
>GUYS WE ARE GOING TO SPEND ALL DAY MAKING FUN OF TROONS AND POLITICAL SOAP BOXING, ON THE ANIME VIDEO GAME SITE ON SATURDAY YEAH I'M FUN AT PARTIES HOW COULD YOU TELL.
more attractive than your average modern american woman who is 60% chance to be obese.
>the fappening ruined my totally troony safe space
i’m glad you get told to commit suicide here every day
it’s what you’re supposed to do to make god happy
/pol/gays hate statistics and knowledge because we can look at the upsurge of users on their board and see that they are all the newbies and won't shut up about muh troony tunes. I've been jerking off to qt traps on Cinemaphile when donald trump was still just the home alone guy. Cinemaphile lost all it's soul after teh election
>fun site to talk about animevideo game and traps
>now it's just a place for conservation who don't know anything about politics or the economy since they are teenagers to cry about duh troonies
look at this mad troony thinking he owns the place while simultaneously crying that it isn’t his safe space and is being invaded
dilate
I think it's hilarious that he won't reply to me here lol
inb4 chuds start spewing buzzwords because they can't refute you even though you can look up any thread from 2009-2015 in the archive and notice how this place was completely different before these morons took over
>IM LE OLDgay SO MY MADE UP GENDER REAL
this is the lefts counterpoint to the documentary?
>trad cath zoomers who cry about trannies on saturday morning aren't the most embarrassing cringe people on the planet.
Literally everybody laughs at you, if you left your room and espoused your ideology off of Cinemaphile you would get bullied hard you fricking loser. Don't you have to go suck Ben shapiro's cut israelite wiener you fricking newbie /misc/ garbage?
>Literally everybody laughs at you, if you left your room and espoused your ideology off of Cinemaphile you would get bullied hard you fricking loser.
this sounds like projection about your gender problem
Why does everyone pretend this man faced troon is some kind of holy grail of trannies?
Because hundreds of people on here find her hot and also feel conflicted at how they find her hot.
This, have you even been on this site for a significant time if you haven't seen a lot of people go
>Wait...that's a le guy!? But I got a boner and find him hot FUUUUUUUU
>i like man ass and man wiener and man balls
cool nobody cares
what did RT mean by this?
No enough votes for a consensus
more like critics with no balls to review it lol
>I am a guffy. I demand that you all recognize me as a guffy.
>what is a guffy?
>it's something that identifies as a guffy
>okay... but what is that?
>the definition of a guffy depends on the individual...
>ok what's yours?
>something that identifies as a guffy.
>OK BUT WHAT IS A GUFFY
>It's something that has a lot of guffy-ness... part of a guffy-centric lifestyle if you will... it's not that simple...
>you're just going in circles, you haven't explained anything...am I a guffy?
>I don't know. Are you?
>HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW IF YOU DON'T EXPLAIN WHAT IT IS!!
>ok, listen, it's not for me to say...
>then why do you keep saying it
>JUST SHUT UP BIGOT
can a liberal reply to this please?
someone explain to me that if all it means to be a woman is to self identify as one, then why do trannies transition?
how could there even be transgenderism if sex/gender is nothing more than self-identity? That is, if I identify as a woman, but I have a penis, how could there be dysphoria? if I am a woman then my body is already female, so what am I transitioning to? I am female already so why mutilate my body with bizarre unnecessary surgery?
this logic is just so fricked up. if sex is just an identity, then what's to stop me just identifying as a male one day and a female the next? or what I could just walk into a female restroom as a woman but then suddenly "identify" as a male and the police arrest me for being in the wrong restroom?
it's all so fricking stupid. women grow babies inside them, men make the sperm.
>then what's to stop me just identifying as a male one day and a female the next? or what I could just walk into a female restroom as a woman but then suddenly "identify" as a male and the police arrest me for being in the wrong restroom?
their official stance is that it's literally okay for you to do this.
>someone explain to me that if all it means to be a woman is to self identify as one, then why do trannies transition?
Gender dysphoria, homie. It's like with depression, having happy thoughts doesn't make the depression away. Gender dysphoria should go away after get get their HRT and maybe their SRS.
They're mentally ill bro, it's not supposed to make sense
This whole "I identify as..." isn't really supported by all trans women. You could make a thread on /lgbt/ if you wanted to talk about how they feel about "identifying as" something, like if anyone could identify as whatever they want etc.
Just don't let them turn you gay if you do go in there.
This
There are multiple avenues to pro-trans arguments. Hell if I'm not mistaken I think it's become increasingly popular to not go through with srs due to its complications.
And yet all those arguments lead to the same dick in your mouth.
It's kinda funny that the core of a lot of these arguments ITT based on facts and logic is "Well at least I'm not gay!"
Daily reminder trannies are like .01% of the population and the real threat is the coming financial downturn
I want more crazy beliefs like transgenderism. I want more chaos in society. Can the left create another mental illness that will attract already damaged people, it would really make my day.
You know the Leftwing ideology may have wormed its way into every institution....but its really fricking funny that Leftwingers need ~~*science*~~ to explain what a woman is
Lol they are literally subhumanx
it was pretty boring.
it was just a collection of highly edited interviews saying the same shit most anti trans people have been saying for decades.
like if you are slightly informed on this topic 90% of this "movie" is just shit you already know but presented slower and less interesting.
this is a "movie" for normie conservatives.
>masks are... LE MUZZLES
what is a woman?
>someone who identifies as a woman
WHAT. IS. THAT.
Does sex/gender even mean anything to the average person or am I just alone in just being like "This is what I am," and that's it. It isn't something I generally think about but some people care about it so much.
Gender only matters to most people in the sense that it's something to be insecure about, like a Cinemaphile nerd thinking, "Am I not masculine enough?", or a tomboy thinking "Am I not feminine enough?". Almost everyone just takes it as a fact of their existence.
Honestly, I think it's harmful for us to accept these new ideas about gender fluidity because it rejects the idea that being a non-masculine man is okay. If gender is just a free choice, and we start measuring gender not on anatomy but on more subjective shit, then insecure men will trick themselves into thinking they're not good men and they must really be women. It's all a big misunderstanding and it will hurt a lot of confused kids some day
I agree, honestly. I think that it's completely okay to be a woman that enjoys more "masculine" things or the reverse, people seem to view it in a lot of black and white. Every person is different, some people are more "traditional" and others aren't and that's okay. Being a woman that enjoys video games and doesn't like make-up or dresses doesn't mean anything, it's just what she personally enjoys -- doesn't mean there's a man on the inside waiting to be set free.
Can I get a QRD? I really don't have any interest in watching, my mind is already made up on the issue. The culture war is over and epicly owning libtards with facts and logic is not going to make the pendulum swing back in the other direction.
I want to frick troony matt
Why is it that people who support trans will also complain about "cultural appropriation?" I'm not allowed to emulate a culture I identify with?
I wonder what will happen in the future when we will be able to build ai and they will identify themselves as women. Do you think the left will let it happen or will they face the hypocrisy of their logic?
if we take the writer's answer that a woman is anyone with a female identity, that means drag queens are women. Because if there is nothing in biology that makes someone inherently a man or a woman, and social acceptance/appearance is what actually defines masculine and feminine, then if a man dresses in drag well enough to fool people into thinking he is a woman, he is a woman.