What is Geoff Johns' absolute best comic book?
Top 3?
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What is Geoff Johns' absolute best comic book?
Top 3?
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None.
Oh he did Darkest Night didn't he?
He should kill himself because honestly nobody should live with that shame.
You mean Blackest Night? Yeah.
Alright, what about his top 3?
Based
Darkest Night or Blackest Night?
Is Blackest Night the comic equivalent of the fat chick we all regret banging? I remember liking it at the time and I specifically remember Cinemaphile having a lot of fun with it when it was coming out, but looking back...yikes...why did we just go along with that bullshit?
Cuz zombies puking blood and ripping people's innards out was hardcore.
It was, but saying over and over again that they're not like psychic projections or recreations only to turn around and say "Oh wait thats exactly what they are" was super lame.
If you're telling me it was all just to set up Brightest Day, I'm going to puke.
It's an event comic. Unfortunately superhero events aren't about telling a good story, they're about getting rid of or bringing back what the staff liked. Sometimes they're about setting up a new status quo. But they have an ending in mind first and craft a story around it which is why they end up stupid. Rest of his GL was awesome.
His Green Lantern run was top notch.
Green Lantern, JSA, and Action Comics.
People will say The Flash but he made Wally a completely different character.
This seems in line with what I've seen before.
>His GL is ironically his worst work
Why do you say that?
frick, i cannot get into his Green Lantern omnibuses. I own all three, read the first one until the end of the first third, and had to put it down for reason unrelated to it, but the thing is I have not felt the urge to return to it.
have the 3 omnibuses of JSA and that I loved!
i liked his teen titans.
I'm pretty casual but I love his Superman stuff. Curse of Shazam was really fun, too
Objectively it's Green Lantern, JSA, and Flash, in that order.
Personally it's Green Lantern first, Action Comics second, and then a tie for third between JSA and Flash.
JSA, Teen Titans, and Flash.
His GL is ironically his worst work
52 was great too but that was a collaborative work, so not sure if it counts.
>52 was great
No.
Whatever you say Didio
Avengers issue where Hank Pym using his shrinking powers to go inside and give the Wasp and orgasm. Then brave to her about it , while between her two breasts.
Finale to Sinestro Wars that hints to Blackest Night.
His first Rogue’s spotlight issue in Flash, about Captain Cold.
^give Wasp an orgasm
^Then brag to her about it
Sorry about my typos
Pretty sure that was Ultimate Marvel. I don't think Johns wrote that.
green lantern run
JSA run
flash
Unironically Stars and S.T.R.I.P.E followed by Flash is his best work, I wish some of that boldness had gone to JSA, TT and GL, those ones felt stagnant and timorous.
>Unironically Stars and S.T.R.I.P.E.
Interesting.
>timorous
Word of the day.
That one story he did in Tom Strong was neat.
Him and Millar are easily the most overrated comic book writers out there.
Maybe they're the most palatable mainstream, which by definition means they'll be "overrated," but that doesn't mean they're bad writers
And also, there is something to be said for them being palatable mainstream. Making your stuff marketabie is a skill too
I would argue that Millar is objectively a shitty writer, at least from a purely mechanical perspective. Johns is just mediocre, he's the type of guy that never grew up beyond smashing his action figures together.
I don't agree with this because we spent the last two decades seeing other writers attempt to be like Millar and Johns and being worse than them at it.
That isn't to say Millar and Johns are good, just that the bar for what's shitty is way lower
I’m not deep into background comic maker lore, but Johns seems to me like someone who actually cares about comics and the characters in them, and just wants to make others like them too through his work. He’s not pretentious and trying to raise comics to a higher level like a lot of writers do. Just good old fashioned fun, and he’s good at it.
Geoff Johns literally tried to do a sequel to fricking Watchmen, come on.
Oops, I completely ignored the existence of that and didn’t know who the writer was. Maybe the statement only really applies to earlier in his career then. It seems like a lot of writers eventually lose their way, or end up with a character that’s incompatible with them despite their skill.
I mean DC had already done Before Watchmen previously and HBO and Tom King tried their hands at a sequel that were far far worse than Doomsday Clock. To me at the very least the meta narrative of The Importance of Hope was great and made the book worthwhile
>Johns seems to me like someone who actually cares about comics and the characters in them
>He’s not pretentious
You can't say that after he made Doomsday Clock, that's just silly.
Doomsday Clock was literally the definition of fun.
Doomsday wiener was Johns huffing his farts so much he thought he could write a follow up to one of the most sold and well regarded comics of all time with the most b***h basic political commentary imaginable. Just read the interviews before the release, Johns is a hack through and through.
There was no more political stuff in that than there was in his JSA run.
>muh hype interviews
You're a homosexual.
It was as political as a brainlet like Johns could make it.
And that's why it sucked. He's not any good at "serious" comics. Which is why 90% of the time he doesn't do that.
johns is the quintessential "fanboy in charge" story.
He's good, but his idea of "comics i like" are entirely personal and led him to basically replace a lot of lore with his headcanon. Which can retroactively ruin previous storylines. On top of that, he's old now, he not longer has the spark, specially when he had to endure a collapsing DC under dan "kid" diddlio
In a way he's like dan slott, except he has actual skill.
They both ruined She-Hulk.
>except he can type
He does. He's the master of popcorn comics. Unfortunately when he tries to be deep, he sucks big time. This is sadly true of most comic books however
>He does. He's the master of popcorn comics.
this tbh
Johns is the Oda of the west.
I don't know who this is more insulting toward.
Neither? They're great when they don't try so hard.
Bullshit. Oda hasn't tried hard in a decade and it shows.
I like when Toriyama got burnt out and still created iconic peak fiction.
Unironically Stars and S.T.R.I.P.E., Beast Boy and Booster Gold.
I'm convinced nobody here actually READ Johns' GL, they just flipped through the pages to look at the pretty colors. There's no way people found that schlock entertaining.
I’m not into GL in the slightest, but he’s the one that made rings for all the colors of the rainbow, right? That’s inherently interesting at surface level, since you open up that whole “which color would X be” aspect of fantasizing, among other things.
Haven’t seen Hawkman mentioned yet, is that just middle of the pack?
>That’s inherently interesting at surface level, since you open up that whole “which color would X be” aspect of fantasizing, among other things.
Larfleeze was the only positive outcome. The entire run was bogged down with "which color Corps is going to cause troubles this week?" It was boring and pointless.
He ruins every book he's on.
Unless it's Hawkman, that was already a mess.
I have a feeling he's finally gonna make it big with Ghost Machine.
How much of a contrarian do you have to be to hate on his Green Lantern run? What are you guys, Supermangays?
you're acting like it was a perfect run, when it wasn't. while he did a lot right, including bringing back hal (which editorial would've done anyway, thanks to the new frontier), making guy a gl again, bringing the corps back (which was happening in kyle's run), and the stories were generally entertaining. however, there were many dislikeable parts of the run. the rainbow corps were either liked or hated (personally, I'm the latter), the lost lanterns being killed off after being brought back was pretty shit, the green lanterns became massive jobbers (imagination and willpower the hard limits, remember), and hal's characterisation was completely changed (drifter who couldn't hold down a job, yet extremely competent as a green lantern, to guy who comes up with insanely reckless plans that always work somehow)
that said, I genuinely enjoyed rebirth and sinestro corps war
This is confusing. Can you stop being contrarians please?
>52 replies
Frick that.
What is the problem here?
52 is a SHIT comic.
No such thing as a shitty comic with Mister Mind as the BBEG
Flashpoint was pretty funny. I like when Barry kept hurting himself with lightning. Some funny ass shit. He really did amazing work with Flash. Blackest Night was alright. I prefer Marvel's zombie book but I like how creative Blackest got with the color spectrum stuff.