What is he supposed to be? An evil captain America?
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Yes. Nite Owl was evil batman and Rorschach was evil mumen rider
>Rorschach was evil mumen rider
he was literally me
He was evil Dick Tracy.
Rorschach was The Question. The Comedian was like The Joker plus The Punisher. Nite Owl was Blue Beetle
Are you trolling? The comedian is peacemaker. Nite owl is blue beetle and Rorschach is the question
see
>wait, I'm the bad guy? When did that happen?
I used to shill the hell out of this movie back when it came out and stopped caring about 10 years ago.
Rewatched recently, and oh my god it was shit. The cringe levels were off the charts. One of the sloppiest film (and comic book) ever made, with irritating levels of pretentiousness and pseudo intellectualism.
13 isn't just the PG rating, but also the age of the average Watchmen fan.
Action was sick so was twists and the hero sprawl
>pretentiousness
>psuedo intellectualism
Buzzwords used by midwits who can’t even describe why something is “pretentious” or “psuedo intellectual”. Tell us how the movie or comic is either of those things
Nta, but too much of the movie probably went over his head.
It probably happens alot.
Alan Moore himself is incredibly pretentious and you can know for a fact from listening to the guy that he thinks his comics (entry level philosophical musings) are high art
I just love the fact that he wanted to shit on Rorschach and everyone loved him and he seethes about it to this day
Moore quit Marvel and DC at the height of his pay rate to go do silly fun comics like 1963, Supreme, and Tom strong that were homages to silver age comics. He's as unpretentious as you get. Marvel/DC fans seethe because he didn't stay on the reservation.
he’s not pretentious, he just seems like kind of a b***h.
In the preface to the trade of Watchmen he whines about not being allowed to watch the news in the pub.
Anon is pissed of about Rorschach murdering pedos.
Halleujah
OH HALLELUJAAAAAAH
Shrek always comes to mind when my mind starts musing on that song, and that Jeff Buckley cover.
The fact that an energy being would have libido is simply ridiculous.
He didn't lose all his humanity when he transformed. It slowly went away over time. It's a major point of the movie, ya fricking idiot.
He's not made of energy, are you moronic? You literally see his flesh and bones.
>13 isn't just the PG rating, but also the age of the average Watchmen fan
woah look at roger ebert over here
Welcome to the truth of Zack sneeder
he makes movies for 20 year old boys
The animated segments in the extended cut are such a fricking drag. Doesn't even mirror the main plot particularly well or interestingly but you just know Snyder thought it was the deepest shit ever.
How is he "evil"?
He’s shot a woman pregnant with his baby dead.
Dr Manhattan literally could've stopped him but chose not to.
So? He still did it. The Comedian could use literally not shot her and she’d be still alive
Yep they forget moral choice and moral action ain't the same thing
Is like telling you is down the block and actually walking there
And she could've not attacked him. Actions have consequences, has nothing to do with good or evil.
Sometimes cuts you, you don't get to kill them. Especially if it's a pregnant woman. Just watch the scene it's not self defence or any bullshit like that he's just angry and slightly humiliated and knows he'll get away with it.
>Defending yourself from minorities and women is evil
Die in a fire, liberal scum.
>Sometimes cuts you, you don't get to kill them.
ngmi
she could've cut his throat, you can't attack someone with a deadly weapon and expect not to be shot especially in a war zone.
He's more sociopathic than outright evil, but to Alan Moore they might as well be the same thing.
sociopathy is evil
its not as evil as psychopathy, but its the next worst thing
more like a nihilist captain america
he was evil
evil captain america
realistic batman and a realistic vigilante hero
>he was evil
he didn't purposefully go around causing pain and suffering, but when they sent him into a warzone he didn't give a frick
of course he did; its what he signed up for and he liked it
Captain America was an idealist though. He knew how great America could be and he believed in truth and justice.
The Comedian was a realist. He saw the world for what it was and accepted it.
He dedicated his life to defending America in spite of that.
Technically he's an evil Peacemaker.
But then they made Peacemaker into comedy Peacemaker so I don't know
He was literally just a guy.
I thought a state punisher.
comedian is what chuds think they are
>cool manly guy who lives in a penthouse and smokes cigars and doesn't give a sh*t about killing non-white civilians
rorschach is what chuds really are
>stinky unemployed schizophrenic bastard who never got laid
actually I'm pretty self aware about being a stinky unemployed schizophrenic bastard who never got laid
the all embody various sides of vigilantism:
Comedian = fascism
Nite Owl = childish, infantile fantasies of (super)powers
the Blue Man = actual post-human
the chick = just eye-candy (i.e. misogynist desires of comic writers/pigs)
Rorsarch = the actual morons who think vigilantism works
simpel as that
>it's another "redditor mistakes anarcho-tyranny for fascism" episode
gross, stop it
>nazism is actually socialism
...this one is a bit tired champ
the entire comic-book industry thinks that for decades (eg. he has been courted by many editors the biggest included; he received constant praises from critics & highest awards; several high-budget adaptations were produced) so yeah he's right to think that lmaooo
No. Because Cap is Marvel, and this is DC (or bought by DC.). He’s actually based on a Charlton comic character called Peacemaker. You can read more here https://www.cbr.com/watchmen-charlton-comics-inspiration-explained/
Again?
He's based on The Punisher, Nick Fury, and Captain America on top of being inspired by The Peacemaker.
See the original notes by the creators.
Also, G. Gordon Liddy and Groucho Marx.
Pic related is his namesake.
He really isn't. He liked the fact that these comics he worked so hard on could be bought by young readers for cheap. He has weird interests, but he also enjoyed shows like South Park, The Sopranos, and Breaking Bad.
>here's that freshfaced 19 year old hero I was talking to you about
Everyone forgets before he got the American motif he was going for a clown/harlequinn themed costume. Also he was the youngest of the first wave of heroes, basically being a teenager.
Lol, I love this movie and I never realized his costume was a clown/joker.
That's infinitely cooler that they took him and turned him into an American Hero. Gotta sell those toys, right Ozy?
Well he adopted the American motif when he got contracted to do wetwork stuff for the government after superheroes fell out of fashion the first time.
It is a pretty vague motif but it's similar to how simple a lot of old superhero comics themed characters
iirc isnt the lore that the first Nite Owl started the superhero craze in the 30s? He was a cop and these bank robbers/gangs would always escape cops and would wear these crazy themed disguses, so he took up a crazy owl costume and started going after them on his own, outside of police restraints, it became a media hit, other did the same and by the 1940s it became this cultural phenomenon?
I don't remember if Nite Owl was first, but what kicked off the craze was Superman's first issue(which existed in this world). Hooded Justice was the first one. One result of real superheroes existing is that superhero comics weren't popular after a few years.
Hooded Justice has the coolest costume followed by Mothman.
He's honestly more like Punisher
>What is he supposed to be? An evil captain America?
He's inspired by Peacemaker and Nick Fury
>Be violent nihilist war criminal rapist murder who just laughs at it all
>finds out Vedit is making a giant octopus monster and is going to kill New Yorkers with it
>AHHH IM LOSING MY MIND AHHH!!
I never got this part of the story
more like a not so evil operating in grey moral Crossbones
When he attempted to rape Silk Spectre and she fell in love with him after redpilled me about woman
He's da Comedian baybee!
I think he represents the cold war era US government?
Comedian was a pastiche of Wolverine and The Joker. He's literally 'society' just viewed from the lens of someone who was a mercenary for the government.
are those glasses glued on?
why does he need a Marvel counterpart