He is a tech nerd. He's a techie, he's a musician, he's a graffiti artist, he's a gamer, he's a coder, he's a martial arts expert. Basically, if there's something you can be good at, that isn't frowned upon by the general public, he can do it.
I can't tell if you agree, disagree or a measure of both. I guess it's "a measure of both." Thanks I guess. I'm not a moron but this IS Cinemaphile so I'll take the based and leave the title.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I disagree, moron
that’s why I called you a moron
7 months ago
Anonymous
Oh. Then you're dumb.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I am a moron but so are you
you’re saying that the characters in High Guardian Spice are well-written because someone out there actually likes that show
7 months ago
Anonymous
>you’re saying that
That's not what I said and that's not what I meant.
7 months ago
Anonymous
then make your point clear instead of moronic
7 months ago
Anonymous
There's nothing shameful about re-reading something until it becomes clear what is and isn't being said.
Good grades equal marvel genius from some reason. I don't think miles have any impressive feats or statement outside of passing high school with a high GPA.
Not just Marvel. Remember how Tim Drake went from getting A's in chemistry to single-handedly running a human-kryptonian cloning project in his basement in the 00s?
7 months ago
Anonymous
AJ from Fairly OddParents
7 months ago
Anonymous
But has Miles ever done anything impressive? It seems like everything gets delegated to Ganke or Peter.
To be fair outside of the game they've really downplayed Ganke as being instrumental to Miles functioning as a hero.
And in the game Miles isn't completely out of his depth, he still knows how to do a lot of this stuff just not as well as Ganke (who is also Peter's tech support now for some god forsaken reason)
He's basically an outcast except Peter was actually bullied to become like that, and he eventually got Spider-Rizz anyways, whereas Miles is just a cucked homosexual.
>Great PostTrak audience exits prevail with 93% positive and an 82% recommend among general audiences. Still, guy-leaning at 63%, with 61% between 18-34 and the biggest demo turnout being 18-24 year olds at 40%. Very strong diversity demos, with 34% Latino and Hispanic, 27% Caucasian, 22% Black and 17% Asian/other. Across the Spider-Verse was strong everywhere, but most prominently in the East and West.
Spiderverse is literally for hispanics and urban white Redditors
I would complain that we _JUST_ had this thread but that'd be a lie, we currently have this exact same thread like two or three times.
What about BLACKED parker eternally buckbroke Cinemaphile this bad?
>it's a popular series of movies >it has black people in it (scary!!!) >not only is the board moderation nonexistent, this board apparently doesn't allow for generals
I'd smugly say "lol what did you expect" but I'm just drained man, not only Cinemaphile just of the race shit in general
Like every black gayot and whitoid started acting like this is still the 70's and that black people are literally being hung on a cross
Racists will always seethe about black characters. People are still mad about Black Panther movie being a giant success. That’s why they now keep posting white BP thinking they’re masterfully trolling people.
>Racists will always seethe about black characters. People are still mad about Black Panther movie being a giant success. That’s why they now keep posting white BP thinking they’re masterfully trolling people.
I dunno, man. Even in the Insomniac sequel where Miles definitely feels extremely shilled, Miles inspires apathy in me at most. I can sympathize with Cinemaphile's desire to want Peter to be treated well as the original, but if Miles is going to be there alongside him, I'd also like him to be written well rather than just "Oh, I got new powers".
Sadly, loud power-level gays are the biggest hypemen for capeshit on social media these days. It's why you get shit with new characters unironically turning to the reader and opining how great they themselves are.
An artistic, empathetic boy who just wanted to be able to go through life at his own pace, only to be pushed forwards by pressures both domestic and straight up supernatural. Despite constantly feeling as though he doesn't belong, whether it be at the fancy school that he very much is proficient enough to attend or the world of superheroism, he won't give up, not even in the face of fate itself.
Persistence, I think, is one of his chief qualities. Much like Captain America, he looks at the world telling him to move aside, and he says "No. YOU move." He can stare down an endless array of futures that always seem to go the same way, and will go "Not this time".
Peter isn't empathetic, he's a judgemental jerk who makes assumptions about people. Empathy is never peters first response. Peter learns to be empathetic to someone after his initial assumptions about them are disproven.
They do make it a point to say when pete actually TAKES the pictures they have decent composition, but when he just webs the camera to a vantage point THEN the pictures look like shit
Thank you. Though you and everyone else here are forgetting Miles’s main flaw
Miles fears the spotlight and would rather exist under the radar as not popular but not unpopular than actually do anything with his life. And secondly he is way too over reliant on others to get things done to the point where Hobie actually calls him out for it
Not really a character flaw but if something or someone can't be Venom Blasted by him, he rapidly collapses as he really relies on it to the talking unlike Peter. The issue is that's a rare occurrence.
fears the spotlight and would rather exist under the radar as not popular but not unpopular than actually do anything with his life
Thus wouldn't be too bad if they ever actually did anything with it. Like going into how he stays as Spider-Man now because it's an easy way to get approval by riding on an already existent hero name, and even though it's redundant he won't change it because he's terrified of having to get approval on his own merits.
I feel like there’s a seed here for a really touching moment where Peter says he’s worried about Miles ruining his life by trying to be him, with Peter even giving that one quote about how the comfort zone is where dreams go to die
Honestly, I've posted the idea before, but I probably would have leaned harder into Miles' electric powers. Can still have him want to be Spider-Man easily: he's a huge Spider-Man fanboy(maybe Spider-Man saved him and/or maybe Miles had some bad encounters with law enforcement over a misunderstanding and empathizes with him to a degree on that). And then one day he gets electrical powers, but finds a way to make it work with wanting to be Spider-Man and uses his electrical powers to emulate him.
Wall crawling? Uses electromagnetics to cling to surfaces with enough metal in it.
Web slinging? he has some strong wires he uses to magnetize to/wrap around things to 'sling" his way around.
Enhanced speed and strength? I'm pretty sure there's some way justify that with electricity. Or he's just fast like Spider-Man, but not as strong so he relies a lot on "Venom Blast" to add the extra "punch" he needs.
Invisibility? I'd probably drop this personally but I'm sure there's some way to technobabble this, or maybe Peter helped him make a specialized suit that can use an electric current to power some kind of cloaking field(that would normally be unfeasible without a good power source, but if Miles passively generates electricity that downside is moot)
This would make spider sense the only thing he lacks, but that's 100% fine, it's a solid downside since he's not a "real" Spider-Person, and give him an advantage on the rare occasion some villain might jam Peter's spider sense or use it to cripple him somehow.
I like Miles being an artsy kid, like in Spider verse or that preschool cartoon where he's named Spin
Peter isn't known for being an artist, a creative inventor sure but not an artist. That's the one trait I'd say neither of them share.
there are no spider-man stories that focus on peter's need to express himself creatively. that he designed his suit is just something we're never supposed to go into or ask about.
And spiderverse was the ONLY TIME that ever discussed miles “artistic side” and it was done in the most pathetic pandering way possible to glorify vandalism for no reason other than that’d what Hollywood types equate with “black creativity”. The whole movie was about as creative as the opening scene that served as a literal commercial for Sony headphones
>there are no spider-man stories that focus on peter's need to express himself creatively. that he designed his suit is just something we're never supposed to go into or ask about.
Same with Miles except his every claim of unique artistic expression is immediately followed by him ripping off Peter wholesale. Peter's photography hustle is narratively more important than any of Miles' art endeavors.
i mean you yourself agree with me what peter's photos are portrayed as: a hustle. miles, at least so far, has expressed an emotional need to express himself creatively. the character hasn't matured enough to do it for money like peter does because he still lives with mommy and daddy. shit on it on all you want, and yeah they haven't really done anything with it yet besides use it to deepen miles' and uncle aaron's relationship*, but it's there, its a character trait that is unique to miles for people to use in the future.
*i think that's good though. uncle aaron is a legit good villain with a solid dynamic (two characters keeping secret identities from each other is classic spider-man) and very unique from peter, even if aaron stole prowler's name
And spiderverse was the ONLY TIME that ever discussed miles “artistic side” and it was done in the most pathetic pandering way possible to glorify vandalism for no reason other than that’d what Hollywood types equate with “black creativity”. The whole movie was about as creative as the opening scene that served as a literal commercial for Sony headphones
>miles, at least so far, has expressed an emotional need to express himself creatively.
Only verbally, he never actually did anything creative of note, let alone had it tied into his narrative
>even if aaron stole prowler's name
And design, and friend or foe relationship
He's a feels based brainlet. This works in Spiderverse so well that it bleeds down to other continuities and will become the dominant permutation (insomniac miles went from whiz kid who disassembled tech in the first game to becoming a music student out of nowhere in the following games)
hotheaded loner who's trying to come out of his shell and do right by the people he loves, keeps chugging along despite frick ups and temptations to leave problems for other people. Getting over his bitterness over being dealt a rough hand in life, learning to take responsibility for his decisions and handling problems like a man. A Spider-Man.
No pete is a character with a story that for 40 years was pretty great. Miles was created as a pandered power fantasy for the target of his creators self admitted fetish
In the movies or the comics? In the movies he fits in pretty well with his community and is pretty sociable from what we see in the opening of the first film, but then struggles with self-confidence in a new environment. That only gets worse when he has to deal with more experienced superheroes and his feelings of guilt over causing blonde Peter's death.
So personality-wise, for the first film, I'd say "fish out of water" with social skills he finds difficult to apply to new people/places. He's very affable, but also afraid to disappoint the people around him and hard on himself for any perceived failures.
In the sequel, he's pretty much the same, just more confident until Miguel starts venting at him, at which point his insecurities flare up again. Of course, at this point Miles has been Spider-Man for a while and even saved the multiverse in the first film, so he feels confident enough in his capabilities that he can use being Spider-Man as a shield from Miguel's criticisms, even if Miguel possibly knows more than he does. It'll remain to be seen if the third movie sees that as a flaw or not, though.
Didn't realize this was already a thread but reposting >Finally get to watching this movie >Hear everyone say he just peter in this film so I come in with low expectations >Just from the first 30 minutes alone let alone the whole film he already feels like a different person/character than peter at the same age
Trying to insert ditko era highschool peter or ultimate peter wouldn't even work in half these scenes. From their personalities alone especially OG ditko dickass peter, it would result in an entirely different movie. Was Cinemaphile just lying to me with bad faith arguments?
I think when they say he's like Peter, I think they mean like the nice guy Peter Parker like from the Sony movies and the later cartoons. Which are naturally based off of Peter Parker after he matured from all the shit he went through.
Don't disagree, but considering every adaptation now makes Peter Parker both a teenager and a hecking wholesome nice guy, I can see why they compare it to Miles despite that never being how Peter Parker actually was as a teenager in the comics.
No it doesn't, Peter isn't as ruthless and pragmatic as Miguel, or an anarchist like Hobie-Punk, or a boyscout like Bailey, or broody and serious like Noir, or a complete slapstick goofball like Ham. You can imagine all sorts of potential disagreements or discussions arising from those conflicts of personality and values, meanwhile the only way for Peter and Miles to disagree is if Peter is written out of character like ITSV/ATSV and doesn't want kids or to save Ben so Miles can convince him he should want that.
im only talking about the characters that exist within the same universe. Alt worlds like noir or 2099 is a no brainer they wouldn't agree on everything.
Then how come no one was clamoring for Ben or Kaine or Mayday etc to replace Peter and propped up as superior replacements in every show and movie and game, and especially no creators were rushing to make those stories in high budget Spider-Man media
Exaggerated swagger of a black teen
Black Peter Parker
but he’s not a tech nerd like Peter and he doesn’t seem quite as shy
He is a tech nerd. He's a techie, he's a musician, he's a graffiti artist, he's a gamer, he's a coder, he's a martial arts expert. Basically, if there's something you can be good at, that isn't frowned upon by the general public, he can do it.
wow that sure sounds like a well-written and interesting character
>implying there are well-written and interesting characters rather than characters who writing you like who interest you because you are you
based moron
I can't tell if you agree, disagree or a measure of both. I guess it's "a measure of both." Thanks I guess. I'm not a moron but this IS Cinemaphile so I'll take the based and leave the title.
I disagree, moron
that’s why I called you a moron
Oh. Then you're dumb.
I am a moron but so are you
you’re saying that the characters in High Guardian Spice are well-written because someone out there actually likes that show
>you’re saying that
That's not what I said and that's not what I meant.
then make your point clear instead of moronic
There's nothing shameful about re-reading something until it becomes clear what is and isn't being said.
So he's an unexplained Gary Sue.
Why does Cinemaphile pretend that Miles is genius when he can't build webs or any tech? He literally couldn't be Spider-man without ganke.
He got into a preppy smart school for smart kids. Like it or not being "smart" is a major part of his character even if he doesn't show it.
Good grades equal marvel genius from some reason. I don't think miles have any impressive feats or statement outside of passing high school with a high GPA.
Not just Marvel. Remember how Tim Drake went from getting A's in chemistry to single-handedly running a human-kryptonian cloning project in his basement in the 00s?
AJ from Fairly OddParents
But has Miles ever done anything impressive? It seems like everything gets delegated to Ganke or Peter.
To be fair outside of the game they've really downplayed Ganke as being instrumental to Miles functioning as a hero.
And in the game Miles isn't completely out of his depth, he still knows how to do a lot of this stuff just not as well as Ganke (who is also Peter's tech support now for some god forsaken reason)
I like how Marvel makes every teenager a genius at everything ever
>taking comic book Miles and movie Miles and video game Miles and acting like they're the same character
>taking the bait
>actually reading, watching, and playing the media
Cinemaphile truly contains multitudes
>three completely different mediums
>three completely different personalities
And you act as if that isn’t also a big problem
He's basically an outcast except Peter was actually bullied to become like that, and he eventually got Spider-Rizz anyways, whereas Miles is just a cucked homosexual.
OG Pete wasn’t shy, dude.
He’s peter on easy mode, that’s why he gets more powers living parents and no bugle hate.
that even black audiences don't like all that much, see:
https://deadline.com/2023/06/box-office-spider-man-across-the-spider-verse-1235398807/
>Great PostTrak audience exits prevail with 93% positive and an 82% recommend among general audiences. Still, guy-leaning at 63%, with 61% between 18-34 and the biggest demo turnout being 18-24 year olds at 40%. Very strong diversity demos, with 34% Latino and Hispanic, 27% Caucasian, 22% Black and 17% Asian/other. Across the Spider-Verse was strong everywhere, but most prominently in the East and West.
Spiderverse is literally for hispanics and urban white Redditors
are you the same Hispanic that keeps posting MilesxPeni images?
>moronales
what
I would complain that we _JUST_ had this thread but that'd be a lie, we currently have this exact same thread like two or three times.
What about BLACKED parker eternally buckbroke Cinemaphile this bad?
Because unlike Dr Octopus he's not a straight cisgendered man white.
I didn’t make the previous threads but I am buckbroken
>it's a popular series of movies
>it has black people in it (scary!!!)
>not only is the board moderation nonexistent, this board apparently doesn't allow for generals
I'd smugly say "lol what did you expect" but I'm just drained man, not only Cinemaphile just of the race shit in general
Like every black gayot and whitoid started acting like this is still the 70's and that black people are literally being hung on a cross
sorry that your favorite character sucks, anon.
Racists will always seethe about black characters. People are still mad about Black Panther movie being a giant success. That’s why they now keep posting white BP thinking they’re masterfully trolling people.
>Racists will always seethe about black characters. People are still mad about Black Panther movie being a giant success. That’s why they now keep posting white BP thinking they’re masterfully trolling people.
imagine comparing Black Panther to Miles Morales
I dunno, man. Even in the Insomniac sequel where Miles definitely feels extremely shilled, Miles inspires apathy in me at most. I can sympathize with Cinemaphile's desire to want Peter to be treated well as the original, but if Miles is going to be there alongside him, I'd also like him to be written well rather than just "Oh, I got new powers".
Sadly, loud power-level gays are the biggest hypemen for capeshit on social media these days. It's why you get shit with new characters unironically turning to the reader and opining how great they themselves are.
An artistic, empathetic boy who just wanted to be able to go through life at his own pace, only to be pushed forwards by pressures both domestic and straight up supernatural. Despite constantly feeling as though he doesn't belong, whether it be at the fancy school that he very much is proficient enough to attend or the world of superheroism, he won't give up, not even in the face of fate itself.
Persistence, I think, is one of his chief qualities. Much like Captain America, he looks at the world telling him to move aside, and he says "No. YOU move." He can stare down an endless array of futures that always seem to go the same way, and will go "Not this time".
All of this can also be applied to Peter lol
Milestrannies keep coming up with mental gymnastics to justify the Black Swagger
Peter isn't empathetic, he's a judgemental jerk who makes assumptions about people. Empathy is never peters first response. Peter learns to be empathetic to someone after his initial assumptions about them are disproven.
Peter is no where artistic you dumb ass b***h
He's a photographer.
>JJJ calls all his images shit and pays him 5 bucks to frick off
well maybe he should take pictures of Spider-Man
Jameson only does that to lower the value of the pictures so he can buy them for cheap. He's a business man, anon.
They do make it a point to say when pete actually TAKES the pictures they have decent composition, but when he just webs the camera to a vantage point THEN the pictures look like shit
Thank you. Though you and everyone else here are forgetting Miles’s main flaw
Miles fears the spotlight and would rather exist under the radar as not popular but not unpopular than actually do anything with his life. And secondly he is way too over reliant on others to get things done to the point where Hobie actually calls him out for it
Not really a character flaw but if something or someone can't be Venom Blasted by him, he rapidly collapses as he really relies on it to the talking unlike Peter. The issue is that's a rare occurrence.
Considering he can trivially take out higher level demons with it, I don't even see how anything can possible be immune to it.
fears the spotlight and would rather exist under the radar as not popular but not unpopular than actually do anything with his life
Thus wouldn't be too bad if they ever actually did anything with it. Like going into how he stays as Spider-Man now because it's an easy way to get approval by riding on an already existent hero name, and even though it's redundant he won't change it because he's terrified of having to get approval on his own merits.
I feel like there’s a seed here for a really touching moment where Peter says he’s worried about Miles ruining his life by trying to be him, with Peter even giving that one quote about how the comfort zone is where dreams go to die
Honestly, I've posted the idea before, but I probably would have leaned harder into Miles' electric powers. Can still have him want to be Spider-Man easily: he's a huge Spider-Man fanboy(maybe Spider-Man saved him and/or maybe Miles had some bad encounters with law enforcement over a misunderstanding and empathizes with him to a degree on that). And then one day he gets electrical powers, but finds a way to make it work with wanting to be Spider-Man and uses his electrical powers to emulate him.
Wall crawling? Uses electromagnetics to cling to surfaces with enough metal in it.
Web slinging? he has some strong wires he uses to magnetize to/wrap around things to 'sling" his way around.
Enhanced speed and strength? I'm pretty sure there's some way justify that with electricity. Or he's just fast like Spider-Man, but not as strong so he relies a lot on "Venom Blast" to add the extra "punch" he needs.
Invisibility? I'd probably drop this personally but I'm sure there's some way to technobabble this, or maybe Peter helped him make a specialized suit that can use an electric current to power some kind of cloaking field(that would normally be unfeasible without a good power source, but if Miles passively generates electricity that downside is moot)
This would make spider sense the only thing he lacks, but that's 100% fine, it's a solid downside since he's not a "real" Spider-Person, and give him an advantage on the rare occasion some villain might jam Peter's spider sense or use it to cripple him somehow.
Confused and wishy-washy with earnestness-rizz
What is anyone's personality? Aren't we all products of our environments?
I like Miles being an artsy kid, like in Spider verse or that preschool cartoon where he's named Spin
Peter isn't known for being an artist, a creative inventor sure but not an artist. That's the one trait I'd say neither of them share.
>Peter isn't known for being an artist, a creative inventor sure but not an artist.
He's a photographer that designed his own suit
there are no spider-man stories that focus on peter's need to express himself creatively. that he designed his suit is just something we're never supposed to go into or ask about.
And spiderverse was the ONLY TIME that ever discussed miles “artistic side” and it was done in the most pathetic pandering way possible to glorify vandalism for no reason other than that’d what Hollywood types equate with “black creativity”. The whole movie was about as creative as the opening scene that served as a literal commercial for Sony headphones
>there are no spider-man stories that focus on peter's need to express himself creatively. that he designed his suit is just something we're never supposed to go into or ask about.
Same with Miles except his every claim of unique artistic expression is immediately followed by him ripping off Peter wholesale. Peter's photography hustle is narratively more important than any of Miles' art endeavors.
i mean you yourself agree with me what peter's photos are portrayed as: a hustle. miles, at least so far, has expressed an emotional need to express himself creatively. the character hasn't matured enough to do it for money like peter does because he still lives with mommy and daddy. shit on it on all you want, and yeah they haven't really done anything with it yet besides use it to deepen miles' and uncle aaron's relationship*, but it's there, its a character trait that is unique to miles for people to use in the future.
*i think that's good though. uncle aaron is a legit good villain with a solid dynamic (two characters keeping secret identities from each other is classic spider-man) and very unique from peter, even if aaron stole prowler's name
>glorify vandalism
extreme cringe
>miles, at least so far, has expressed an emotional need to express himself creatively.
Only verbally, he never actually did anything creative of note, let alone had it tied into his narrative
>even if aaron stole prowler's name
And design, and friend or foe relationship
Swagger
He's a feels based brainlet. This works in Spiderverse so well that it bleeds down to other continuities and will become the dominant permutation (insomniac miles went from whiz kid who disassembled tech in the first game to becoming a music student out of nowhere in the following games)
middle class nig. Wants to be "hip" and "dangerous" but only under the supervision of an adult. Hence the stickers and tagging.
The bravest, blackest, strongest, tallest, fastest and thickest hero the world has ever known
lothario
What is Peter Parker's personality?
>NERRDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
homie how do you no that by now?
hotheaded loner who's trying to come out of his shell and do right by the people he loves, keeps chugging along despite frick ups and temptations to leave problems for other people. Getting over his bitterness over being dealt a rough hand in life, learning to take responsibility for his decisions and handling problems like a man. A Spider-Man.
Gay on the down low.
Were talking about Miles, not Eddie
Peter and Miles are self inserts.
No pete is a character with a story that for 40 years was pretty great. Miles was created as a pandered power fantasy for the target of his creators self admitted fetish
Being molestable
Peter in blackface, would have been seen as offensive years ago and will be seen as offensive in the future
Black
why does she mog him so badly
>better costumes
>better stories
>better supporting cast
>better villains
In the movies or the comics? In the movies he fits in pretty well with his community and is pretty sociable from what we see in the opening of the first film, but then struggles with self-confidence in a new environment. That only gets worse when he has to deal with more experienced superheroes and his feelings of guilt over causing blonde Peter's death.
So personality-wise, for the first film, I'd say "fish out of water" with social skills he finds difficult to apply to new people/places. He's very affable, but also afraid to disappoint the people around him and hard on himself for any perceived failures.
In the sequel, he's pretty much the same, just more confident until Miguel starts venting at him, at which point his insecurities flare up again. Of course, at this point Miles has been Spider-Man for a while and even saved the multiverse in the first film, so he feels confident enough in his capabilities that he can use being Spider-Man as a shield from Miguel's criticisms, even if Miguel possibly knows more than he does. It'll remain to be seen if the third movie sees that as a flaw or not, though.
Didn't realize this was already a thread but reposting
>Finally get to watching this movie
>Hear everyone say he just peter in this film so I come in with low expectations
>Just from the first 30 minutes alone let alone the whole film he already feels like a different person/character than peter at the same age
Trying to insert ditko era highschool peter or ultimate peter wouldn't even work in half these scenes. From their personalities alone especially OG ditko dickass peter, it would result in an entirely different movie. Was Cinemaphile just lying to me with bad faith arguments?
I think when they say he's like Peter, I think they mean like the nice guy Peter Parker like from the Sony movies and the later cartoons. Which are naturally based off of Peter Parker after he matured from all the shit he went through.
then they are secondary homosexuals for comparing an adult peter to a teen
Don't disagree, but considering every adaptation now makes Peter Parker both a teenager and a hecking wholesome nice guy, I can see why they compare it to Miles despite that never being how Peter Parker actually was as a teenager in the comics.
this applies to every spider person ever that isn't kaine you big homosexual
No it doesn't, Peter isn't as ruthless and pragmatic as Miguel, or an anarchist like Hobie-Punk, or a boyscout like Bailey, or broody and serious like Noir, or a complete slapstick goofball like Ham. You can imagine all sorts of potential disagreements or discussions arising from those conflicts of personality and values, meanwhile the only way for Peter and Miles to disagree is if Peter is written out of character like ITSV/ATSV and doesn't want kids or to save Ben so Miles can convince him he should want that.
im only talking about the characters that exist within the same universe. Alt worlds like noir or 2099 is a no brainer they wouldn't agree on everything.
Then how come no one was clamoring for Ben or Kaine or Mayday etc to replace Peter and propped up as superior replacements in every show and movie and game, and especially no creators were rushing to make those stories in high budget Spider-Man media
>ben/kaine
are you serious rn?
Yes
He can turn invisible and has electric powers.
A mannequin in a Spider-Man suit