What is it about Mark Millar that makes Cinemaphile seethe so heavily?
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What is it about Mark Millar that makes?
What is it about Mark Millar that makes Cinemaphile seethe so heavily?
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Cinemaphile doesn't hate Millar. Its literally just one dude. That was made abundantly clear during SDCC weekend of pain when he was posting 20 year old comics as if they're still relevant.
seeing old ass 45 year olds still seething about Unfunnies and wanted is so fricking funny, I've gotten old enough to have a house and these old frickers are still whining about a flash video tier joke that came out when I was in middle school.
A better question is what changed that made newbies not mind or even like Millar, and oldgays hate him? A lot of people who read comics that Cinemaphile used to seethe about a decade ago for the first time seem to like them. This year's Storytime of Pain had people defend Trouble and that really surprised me.
A lot of the hate for him came from people who had these sacred cows in comics and saw Millar as a sellout and betraying the saint of Comic Nerds, Grant Morrison. Back in 2001-2012 the hype for Grant Morrison was insane. Millar betrayed Grant and they stood as two opposites in the comics hierarchy- Millar the cheap sellout,and Morrison, the guy trying to elevate cape comics.
For a lot of younger fans, a lot of Millar's work was some of the first comics they read and by design they're engaging action romps.There's also a more general irreverent attitude to cape characters- people hated Ultimates for disrespecting Captain America as a character. People hated Trouble for Aunt May slander. For generations raised by countless adaptations and don't have the same history of reading comics as oldgays, it's not a big deal. Cap clowns on france? kinda funny. Where as oldgays had to get all worked up and find panels of Cap loving the heckin froggerinos to show how icky Millar was.
Some of that makes sense. I remember reading Ultimates for the first time in middle school when it was still new and genuinely just despising every part of it. I was always more of a DCgay so I saw the Ultimate universe as a way to get into Marvel and it wasn't long before I came to the realization that I did not like anything with Millar's name on it and stuck to just reading Ultimate Spider-Man. Years later when I started using Cinemaphile and Cinemaphile all the storytime threads mocking his work only justified my dislike. I didn't care about Morriosn personally, I just hated everything I read by Millar.
Modern comics have reached a level of awfulness that makes these look good in comparison.
This. Modern stuff is so bad that they see Millers stuff as normal.
I don't hate him but I believe he has set back the whole comic scene by saying that his comics are for adults while being extremely childish and moronic. He is also getting a lot of attention from Netflix and other movie makers while there are much more deserving writers
I'm jealous he has a loving wife and children on a farm.
he honestly won.
Morrison is a failed Hollywood writer now who has no children and jumps on the troon train for relevance.
Millar has an adult daughter and children who he reads Silver Age superman stories to as bedtime stories. He has honestly achieved the Superman ideal more than Grant.
What did Millar do to Morrison to make him want to hit him with his car? He said Millar made him lose his faith in humanity.
The two were good partners for a while and then allegedly Millar stole ideas from Morrison. Specifically the idea that Lex Luthor is the ancestor of the Kryptonians in Red Son. However, that said, I do think Morrison is a bit jealous of Millar's success. Millar barely thinks of Morrison now, but Morrison still seethes. As popular as Morrison is with comic readers, Millar saw massive success with mainstream audiences. Garbage like Ultimates and Civil War became household names, and his original comics were getting adapted left and right in the late 00s and early 10s, while Morrison struggles to get original works adapted. We3 has been in development hell for nearly two decades, Joe the Barbarian for over 10 years but in the interview Morrison's comment about losing faith in humanity comes from he tries to play it off that Millar can seem to sell any work for a film adaptation by stating it doesn't work like that and that he has those works in development as if anything is moving on them. He's clearly bitter about it and he's wrong because proven authors can get adaptations made through connections. And I do think Morrison is the better writer, I don't really like Millar's works, but a good chunk of their shit is pure jealousy on Morrison's part.
Morrison being sort of a dick to his artists really says a lot about him to me. Chaz truog who drew Animal Man basically says he blew him off when they met at a convention. I get that he wasn't the best artist and Morrison's interaction with him was probably minimal, just an artist that was assigned to him.. but he's still the guy on the book with him
https://www.tcj.com/if-i-could-id-completely-redraw-it-an-interview-with-chaz-truog/
Meanwhile Millar is trying to elevate the artists he work with, making sure they're paid well and have good deals. sure, he's doing it with established and already good artists, but I'm glad he sees comics as a collaboration to the point he writes his comics around his artists.
i think politics play a role in it too. morrison was always woke-esque anarchist and millar leans edgy south park centrist. no wonder grant will see him as a sellout traitor to any good values.
Why is this place like this? What has happened that people act like this and speak like this? What have we done?
So this entire thread can just be summed up as "Morrisoncels seething over Millarchads"?
Morrison literally is demonic and encouraged his fans to harness the powers of demons to save his comic from cancellation.
I thought he just said to jerk off.
No, he said to use masturbation to charge sigils. It's a magical ritual giving demons part of your life force.
He made shitty comics. There were plenty of threads that reposted shitty comics of his that you can easily look up in the archive. This is just another (You) farm thread. Move on.
He made shitty comics 20 years ago, dude. Move on.
Okay so from all this responses: while millar has his...moments, he does regret them and he has made some interesting works like with kick-ass, despite it making me hate it and him for a while, I did get over it.
I gotta ask, can millar make some good stuff? I mean ultimates was a good concept idea and had good execution, but with other writers and their unfortunate problems, it made ultimates bad, and I guess along with things relating to civil war. (Fricking bendis)
Can we admit he is a good writer and maker of things? Maybe see him redeem himself? I mean with Hickman working on a new 1610/Ultimates Universe, I would be glad to see him make something for marvel again and he could do it with great success?
Superman Adventures is a solid run
I think Kick-Ass 3 is a genuinely good finale for the series. It pays off stuff from all four volumes, makes Dave genuinely badass but also still a massive dork, puts a solid cap on the series and despite Kick-Ass 2 being total shit makes it worth reading for the full journey. Hit-Girl was good too. The Kick-Ass 2 prequel, I mean, not the second series set after Kick-Ass 3.
probably all the goats he licks