From Up on Poppy Hill was pretty boring. I appreciated that they tried to make something that wasn't a fairytale, but the movie had nothing special going for it.
I like the subtle and gradual way Sophie loses her elderly appearance without anyone calling attention to it, and for that reason alone I rate it above From Up on Poppy Hill.
Howl is a strange case. The atmosphere is great, the characters are great, Sophie’s aging is great, but the plot is both nonsensical and practically nonexistent. >Suliman is the ultimate evil, and obsessed with Howl, and this is never really addressed >Howl gives his heart away, seemingly to no one’s benefit, just so they can easily fix him in the end >OH! That scarecrow was actually the missing prince! I guess this brutal conflict with a death toll in the millions is just over now 🙂
The plot is a mess, probably heavily rewritten, but there are great scenes and the animation alone makes it worth watching. And it's not boring, so far from being the worst.
Based. Never liked Howl. Spirited Away is also massively overrated.
Pompoko or Porco Rosso.
Also based. Porco is by far the best. Airplane heaven is one of the only things that has ever made me cry. Pompoko also massively underrated and I appreciate that the animators gave the male raccoons balls.
I distinctly remember getting to the end credits, and saying out loud, "What the FRICK was that horse shit!?" There are Ghibli movies that I'm not a fan of, like When Marnie Was There or Ponyo. But those still have that "Ghibli magic" to them and I never regretted watching them. But I genuinely hated Earthsea.
Arriety is good, is just not original
It's a very overdone concept and it didn't bring anything new to it
I gotta go with Earthsea, that shit was truly boring
This, its incredibly boring but i do find it really really fricking funny that the jungle uncivil man lives in the backyard lol
Wtf? He's meant to be an aragorn type guy living out in the world exposed at all times like a stalker
Movie's great too, did you think Once Upon a Time in Hollywood was boring, too?
it does the opposite of that
the movie is called "Princess Mononoke"
you follow Ashitaka
the main character is Lady Eboshi
it's basically like if F. Scott Fitzgerald had called his book "Myrtle Wilson"
its a bit funny to me how people disparage ghibli films as “boring” a majority of the time >this ones boring >no I like that one, that ones boring
homie theyre ALL boring. you just like ones style/setting more than another, and thats fine, but engaging plots are not their forte
Does anyone else start randomly crying when watching these movies? I was tearing up in the theater yesterday. I don't know if I'm just getting older or what
I do that too. I think it's a combination of the beautiful music and animation that just moves me. It's strange since I rarely ever shed a tear but these movies have that affect on me.
any of the ones that aren't aimed primarily at children. I'm not watching a Ghibli film to learn about the horrors of WW2 you annoying old asiatic, make something joyous and whimsical and shut up.
I dislike a lot of their post mononoke stuff. Coz miyazaki went through that phase of adaptations of british novels aimed at little girls.
The wind rises would have been excellent had they hired a normal foley artist instead of hiring beat boxer they found on the street to make fart sounds into a microphone for all the sound effects.
Came to post this. Not only does Ghibli doing CGI feel beyond wrong but the CGI itself looks like some Gamecube shit.
>the CGI itself looks like some Gamecube shit.
Welcome to anime.
>The wind rises would have been excellent had they hired a normal foley artist instead of hiring beat boxer they found on the street to make fart sounds into a microphone for all the sound effects.
Autism moment.
Earthsea. I couldn't even finish it. And that became the reason why I wouldn't even touch I know it's not fair to expect a person to live up to their parent's legacy but Jesus Christ. Goro has no place making films, let alone animated ones. He should have become an accountant or something.
I bet by now he just wants to prove his father wrong by making an amazing movie. Plus, he wanted validation in the first place, quitting wouldn't give him that.
>by making an amazing movie
He already did with From Up on Poppy Hill. Maybe it isn't 'amazing' on part with Mononoke, but if his dad can't accept that as a great movie, then he's in complete denial.
The worst ones I've seen are Totoro and Ponyo. They feel like they were specifically made for little kids and I find it harder to get through those as an adult unlike the other films. Also the best Ghibli film is not even technically a Ghibli film despite Miyazaki directing it and it came out in 1979.
What's wrong with it?
Please tell me exactly what's wrong with it.
Do you think falling in love with 12 years old girl implies having sex with the girl, or anything? >t. someone who absolutely abhors the dicky trend in games because I like grown-ass female bodies
I have no idea why Kiki isn't hated on way more than it is. It really stands out as being exceptionally dull and repetitive far beyond anything else, like it was made for actual infants. It's not even childish in a cute but thoughtful way like Totoro and Ponyo, it really is about Kiki just going back and forth like a Postman Pat episode dragged out into an entire movie. I really don't get it.
I watched kiki and spiderman 2 within the same week and was surprised how much overlap there is between themes/plot points, just a strange observation I had
The Cat returns is so fricking underrated its unreal. Its funny how another director mogged Miyazaki by out-ghibling him. The cat returns is like the perfect Ghibli film imo along with spirited away.
grave of the fireflies because its weak justification for japanese war crimes that are somehow never mentioned despite having multiple movies dedicated to civilian suffering in ww2.
Yes. It's incredibly weird to me that it's seen as one of the 'lesser' films, as its easily the studio's most complex (and hence ambitious in that sense) work while being no less well executed than their other greats.
It's only real flaw is that so much is going on that there's little time comparatively to focus on the stories of each individual character, and that it downplays the seriousness of some things by portraying them comedically. Otherwise its an outright fantastic epic that's dismissed too quickly by most for being an "animal film".
Most people just see "funny balls movie haha", and don't watch it. But those people are definitely missing out. "Survive the modern world" is probably even more relevant today than it was 30 years ago.
Feels bad man
Just a reminder that this sequence was inspired by one of Roald Dahl's writings as a war pilot.
>It's only real flaw is that so much is going on that there's little time comparatively to focus on the stories of each individual character, and that it downplays the seriousness of some things by portraying them comedically.
Well said. I really liked it, just felt like tonal whiplash at times. The ending was bittersweet. It also pissed me off because there has been a lot of urbanization around my city over the past few years, so I've seen a lot of forested areas taken down and as a result have been seeing more wildlife out in the open (probably trying to find a home). Like yesterday I saw a coyote next to the highway in broad day light because they've been chopping down forests around that area to make way for parking lots and (vacant) office buildings. Like damn, poor animals.
Why does nobody ever acknowledge this movie? I think it's pretty amazing actually. It's like a very fine and well done sitcom, but with weight.
I think Western viewers would enjoy it.
I feel like it's a very niche film that only appeals to those that really like slower, slice of life stuff. A lot of what westerners like about Ghibli films is that they're often times fantastical and whimsical or more grounded with a very engaging plotline. That and the artstyle is completely different from most other Ghibli movies which seems to turn off a lot of western viewers which is a shame because I love the way that movie looks. I do hope they bring it to western theatres for Ghiblifest someday, but that's probably never going to happen.
Is it similar to the style of Whisper of the Heart, Only Yesterday, and From Up on Poppy Hill? If so, I think I'd like it.
>Is it similar to the style of Whisper of the Heart, Only Yesterday, and From Up on Poppy Hill?
Not really. It's more of an episodic movie chronicling random days in the life of the family. I'd say give it a shot if you're curious. You'll find out pretty quickly if it's a movie you want to completely watch or not.
Spirited Away was a slog to sit through. Howl is fricking gay bullshit. If I want to watch some ching chong cartoons I'd watch something good like Akira.
Haven't even seen Earwig, and I probably never will. CGI Ghibli is weird.
For me it's The Cat Returns. The first movie was at least decent, but the sequel is boring as shit, and I hated it.
>This shit was so forgettable no one has mentioned it yet
You're right, it totally slipped my mind, but that's to its benefit here. I barely even remember what happened in it, but I just don't recall it being particularly bad, just completely unmemorable, as it doesn't really feel like a Ghibli production.
If we're really talking Ghibli and not just Miyazaki's movies then Arrietty was pretty fricking dull. Totoro itself was boring and surprisingly uninspiring.
I didn't like Castle in the Sky but I'll forgive it as it's an early one.
Princess Mononoke is better than Spirited Away and The Wind Rises is better than The Boy and the Heron.
People are always giving awards to the wrong Miyazaki movies.
Everyone who has watched 3 or more anime in his life considers Mononoke better. The problem is, Spirited is much more digestible as a fairy-tale analogue, like Yidsney productions. It's also more child appropriate (in large part because the MC is a child herself). So to Hollywood boomers and other decisionmakers in this space, only Spirited Away noticeable.
If it reminded you the smell of your father's dick in your nose when you were four, then you're right.
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lol i knew you were a pedo. why bother defending your pedo movie?
Her parents clearly get tranformed into pigs, because they sold their daughter into a brothel. Its metaphore you illiterate Black person
The Wind Rises losing to Frozen at the academy awards is still so fricking insane to me. Hell the whole line up of animated films for that years awards were shit save for Wind Rises and Ernest and Celestine.
Every Mizyaki film is the same >military bad >adult men bad >women good >kids good >elderly good >nature good >strong 1st and 2nd act, rushed 3rd act
Also, Grave of Fireflies was ruined for me, by a single scene. The farmer tells Seita to go back to his aunt and apologize. He doesn't because he is too proud, instead, he becomes a starving thief.
So, it becomes a tale of hubris instead of survival. I just can't sympathize with him anymore.
I did. But I interpret it differently.
Everything bad in that film happens because humans are poisoning nature.
I also don't know what point of hiring bunch of prostitutes as to work as your fort garrison.
>Everything bad in that film happens because humans are poisoning nature.
nah eboshi creates a safe haven for exploited girls and lepers. They need wood for houses and iron for tools. Then wolfs, monkeys and boars try to kill them all because muh forest. So they defend themselves. and frick them up. In the end the death of nature heals the land which represents the cycle of decay and rebirth. The land is now tamed and friendly, and everyone is happy, except for the stupid boars and wolves who fertilized hte soil for better tomorrow
I'll sort out this high school level debate later, for now I just gotta say you're wrong about the prostitutes. The lepers make less sense, especially with how she makes a habit of personally visiting them. But having an Outer Haven with prostitutes like Lady Big Boss makes perfect sense. She has an absolutely loyal and zealous armed militia style force, not limited by the pride of their station, so they'll work and do anything they need to for her, she doesn't have to constantly worry about disloyal informers or dissent among the women. It's not just an interesting little anomaly, it makes perfect sense in context.
Wow, it's almost like Grave of the Fireflies is supposed to be about pride and stupidity killing people! It's almost like it's purposely meant to be a metaphor for war!
From all the ones I have seen: Ocean Waves
I get what it was trying to do, but I just hated every character in it (besides the girl friend from school who just wanted to be a good friend).
Pom Poko was good but it was waaay too long imo. They could have cut 1/3 of the movie out and it be better imo.
Oh wait, I take that back: I hated The Boy and the Heron. Very pretty movie, but the story was a train wreck in terms of pacing and clarity, and the characters weren't that good either. I understand the symbolism with Miyazaki, the basic story plots, and that its based on 'How Do You Live?'. I get all of that. I was very frustrated watching as it kept introducing more and more conflict without any resolution or explanation. If he woke up and it was all a dream, that would have made way more sense with how much it would introduce story plot lines. Even the characters reacted in much less human ways than other Miyazaki and Ghibli movies have them portrayed as.
I may like it more upon a second watching, but I'd rather watch any other movie instead. People compare it to Spirited Away, but I loved Spirited Away's story (the ending got wrapped up a bit too fast though imo).
I feel like it's a very niche film that only appeals to those that really like slower, slice of life stuff. A lot of what westerners like about Ghibli films is that they're often times fantastical and whimsical or more grounded with a very engaging plotline. That and the artstyle is completely different from most other Ghibli movies which seems to turn off a lot of western viewers which is a shame because I love the way that movie looks. I do hope they bring it to western theatres for Ghiblifest someday, but that's probably never going to happen.
>Thier art style varies a lot.
I'm always annoyed when I see shit online like "random show in Ghibli style" and they just make it look like Mononoke or Spirited Away.
Yep. Americans need to be told what to like by a israelite. The American Golem is incapable of independent thoughts. Why? Critical thinking always leads to antisemitism.
Only Yesterday, I understand it's meant to be a slow burn, slice of life thing, and that it's a rewarding watch, but both times I tried watching it I fell asleep somewhere around the 90 minute mark.
>and that it's a rewarding watch
It's frankly not so much. It's not a deep or particularly rich film. It isn't more nuanced compared to other Ghibli films by virtue of being about mundane real life and there's no need to feel guilt for just not liking it that much.
Most Ghibli movies are style and no substance. Admittedly, they are quite nice to look at, but I find them fricking boring. Porco Rosso is cool though.
>Marnie was insanely good.
Totally agreed. I think it is overlooked frequently. There are some weird moments here and there, and a bit too much of expedition dump at the end. Otherwise, I overall really enjoyed it.
Marnie is great but it pisses me off that leftists make it into a Lesbian thing. She is not gay for her fricking Grandma. Same way they cling to the "I'd rather be a pig than a fascist" line in Porco Rosso while totally missing the point.
I saw people online saying Luca had a gay relationship between the two boys, so I just completely dismissed it. Eventually I watched it reluctantly because people kept saying that wasn't true, and it turns out it really wasn't. I was mad to put it off for so long. I really liked Luca in the end.
Thankfully I didn't hear anything about Marnie till after I watched it and was very confused where they got that too. To be honest, when she was like 'keep our relationship a secret' was kind of weird, but it made sense if a person watched the movie and paid attention.
I showed my students several animated films. This is how the ranked the Ghibli ones I could show them: >Howl's >Ponyo >Spirited Away >Laputa >The Cat Returns >Nausicaa
I see you moronic homosexuals saying Marnie is good
KYS
how many times can you take some dopy b***h depressingly say marney marney marney a million times in 2 hours
Even the worst is miles better than modern western animation.
Overrated pieces of shit like xmen97 "muh best xmen series" looks like it has flash animation, men withwoman faces and women with masculine faces. Either go back or learn form japs
There are a lot of contrarians posting here. Ghibli movies simply aren’t for everyone. Just like not everyone likes Naruto. That’s doesn’t mean Naruto is bad. If it was bad then it wouldn’t be loved by a billion people. Don’t make any of your decisions based on anything you read on Cinemaphile. These are some of the most miserable and lonely people you can imagine, screaming into the void and hoping for some echo to relieve their crippling loneliness. Even if that echo is an argument to their trolling
I agree. That anon should just watch what interests them, regardless of our opinions. Anything posted here should be taken with a grain of salt. That said, it is also good for getting names for things. For example: >PRINCESS MONONOKE IS GARBAGE POO POO CRAP! IT'LL NEVER BE AS GOOD AS THE KINO THAT IS SPIRITED AWAY! AND ANOTHER THING BLAH BLAH BLAH >looks up "Princess Mononoke" and "Spirited Away", watches their trailers >makes an informed decision to watch either movie based on their own opinions and knowing what they like
I'd recommend the following as ones that I think capture the 'essence' of other Studio Ghibli movies in general and may be worth a watch if they interest you:
Princess Mononoke
Kiki's Delivery Service
Whisper of the Heart
Porco Rosco
From Up on Poppy Hill was pretty boring. I appreciated that they tried to make something that wasn't a fairytale, but the movie had nothing special going for it.
Filtered. Poppy Hill is beautiful.
The correct answer is Howl's Moving Castle. That thing is horrendous.
I like the subtle and gradual way Sophie loses her elderly appearance without anyone calling attention to it, and for that reason alone I rate it above From Up on Poppy Hill.
>it's popular with my art hoe oneitis that rejected me so it's horrendous!
it's a beautiful film b***h, get over her.
>it's a beautiful film b***h, get over her.
Yeah. I'm dating a jap and she's shown me a few Ghibli films. I didn't care for that one very much.
bump
Howl is for women. If you like it as a man you're a homo.
I like the classical European cities/architecture and the little demon fellow
I dont think Howl is bad, but man the hype around it is something I'll never understand. Women are just obsessed with it.
Howl is a strange case. The atmosphere is great, the characters are great, Sophie’s aging is great, but the plot is both nonsensical and practically nonexistent.
>Suliman is the ultimate evil, and obsessed with Howl, and this is never really addressed
>Howl gives his heart away, seemingly to no one’s benefit, just so they can easily fix him in the end
>OH! That scarecrow was actually the missing prince! I guess this brutal conflict with a death toll in the millions is just over now 🙂
The plot is a mess, probably heavily rewritten, but there are great scenes and the animation alone makes it worth watching. And it's not boring, so far from being the worst.
Maybe not in the whole of Ghibli, but it's easily Hayao Miyazaki's worst film.
Based. Never liked Howl. Spirited Away is also massively overrated.
Also based. Porco is by far the best. Airplane heaven is one of the only things that has ever made me cry. Pompoko also massively underrated and I appreciate that the animators gave the male raccoons balls.
It was a really comfy movie, but arguably the weakest Ghibli film.
It's the film that made Miyazaki acknowledge his son. It's total soul.
they have never made a worst movie
Earthsea, very dishonorabru
that was so fricking boring, I turned it off after like 30 minutes.
His dad hated the movie, the author hated the movie, I hated the movie
I distinctly remember getting to the end credits, and saying out loud, "What the FRICK was that horse shit!?" There are Ghibli movies that I'm not a fan of, like When Marnie Was There or Ponyo. But those still have that "Ghibli magic" to them and I never regretted watching them. But I genuinely hated Earthsea.
Arriety
Agreed. It's boring.
Nah
This, its incredibly boring but i do find it really really fricking funny that the jungle uncivil man lives in the backyard lol
First 30 minutes are ok, the rest is boring.
Arriety is good, is just not original
It's a very overdone concept and it didn't bring anything new to it
I gotta go with Earthsea, that shit was truly boring
Wtf? He's meant to be an aragorn type guy living out in the world exposed at all times like a stalker
Movie's great too, did you think Once Upon a Time in Hollywood was boring, too?
Pompoko or Porco Rosso.
weak bait
There are undoubtedly people who feel that way though. They don't really deserve to continue living, but they'd exist.
They are both anthropomorphic and ugly as shit.
>I love Porco Rosso, he talks shit on fascists!!
Grow up
>Porco
bait but kys nonetheless
That one movie that wasn't made by Miyazaki or Takahata that nobody watched. No I'm not talking about Earthsea.
Marnie was great though.
Which is your favorite?
Earthsea or Cat Returns.
Princess Mononoke is just a shittier version of Nausicaa
other way around actually -
Mononoke is the fleshed out, deeper version of Nausicaa
More fleshed out than a seven volume manga?
Princess Mononoke is for if you love capitalism and guns
Nausicaa is for if you hate immigrants
both are pretty based
Princess mononoke is pure unabated kino what the frick
It insists upon itself.
it does the opposite of that
the movie is called "Princess Mononoke"
you follow Ashitaka
the main character is Lady Eboshi
it's basically like if F. Scott Fitzgerald had called his book "Myrtle Wilson"
its a bit funny to me how people disparage ghibli films as “boring” a majority of the time
>this ones boring
>no I like that one, that ones boring
homie theyre ALL boring. you just like ones style/setting more than another, and thats fine, but engaging plots are not their forte
>ebonics
>plotgay
no wonder you got filtered by a children cartoon
>ebonics
Dumbass homie
hi reddo
Does anyone else start randomly crying when watching these movies? I was tearing up in the theater yesterday. I don't know if I'm just getting older or what
I do that too. I think it's a combination of the beautiful music and animation that just moves me. It's strange since I rarely ever shed a tear but these movies have that affect on me.
It's just Joe Hisaishi's score.
The CG one.
any of the ones that aren't aimed primarily at children. I'm not watching a Ghibli film to learn about the horrors of WW2 you annoying old asiatic, make something joyous and whimsical and shut up.
Filtered. The Wind Rises dunks on Nolan's attempt to do the same thing.
I dislike a lot of their post mononoke stuff. Coz miyazaki went through that phase of adaptations of british novels aimed at little girls.
The wind rises would have been excellent had they hired a normal foley artist instead of hiring beat boxer they found on the street to make fart sounds into a microphone for all the sound effects.
>the CGI itself looks like some Gamecube shit.
Welcome to anime.
>The wind rises would have been excellent had they hired a normal foley artist instead of hiring beat boxer they found on the street to make fart sounds into a microphone for all the sound effects.
Autism moment.
Not really. The plane noises in the movie are someone making them with their mouth and its baffling
This shitheap, any other answer is inferior.
Came to post this. Not only does Ghibli doing CGI feel beyond wrong but the CGI itself looks like some Gamecube shit.
From the director of earthsea
Does that even count?
Earthsea. I couldn't even finish it. And that became the reason why I wouldn't even touch I know it's not fair to expect a person to live up to their parent's legacy but Jesus Christ. Goro has no place making films, let alone animated ones. He should have become an accountant or something.
Why didn't Goro just go back to landscaping, he was doing fine in that profession.
I bet by now he just wants to prove his father wrong by making an amazing movie. Plus, he wanted validation in the first place, quitting wouldn't give him that.
Miyazaki will have been dead for years before Goro figures out how to direct a movie.
>by making an amazing movie
He already did with From Up on Poppy Hill. Maybe it isn't 'amazing' on part with Mononoke, but if his dad can't accept that as a great movie, then he's in complete denial.
Ponyo but still watchable
Without the obvious Earwig, their worst are
>Whisper of the Heart
>Grave of the Fireflies
>The Boy and the Heron
>Grave of the Fireflies
filtered 🙂
You win the award for worst taste in this thread. Simply amazing.
>Whisper of the Heart
SHUT UP
The worst ones I've seen are Totoro and Ponyo. They feel like they were specifically made for little kids and I find it harder to get through those as an adult unlike the other films. Also the best Ghibli film is not even technically a Ghibli film despite Miyazaki directing it and it came out in 1979.
they were literally made for little kids. totoro is still comfy as shit.
>totoro is still comfy as shit.
Odd way of saying boring
nah. you don't get it clearly. your inner child is dead.
No because I can still enjoy classic Disney. Just not the worst Ghibli movies is all.
A man of taste
i put off the wind rises until recently because people said it was bad but it was kino beyond belief.
why7 so many up skirt and feet shots in kiki?
What's wrong with it?
Please tell me exactly what's wrong with it.
Do you think falling in love with 12 years old girl implies having sex with the girl, or anything?
>t. someone who absolutely abhors the dicky trend in games because I like grown-ass female bodies
I have no idea why Kiki isn't hated on way more than it is. It really stands out as being exceptionally dull and repetitive far beyond anything else, like it was made for actual infants. It's not even childish in a cute but thoughtful way like Totoro and Ponyo, it really is about Kiki just going back and forth like a Postman Pat episode dragged out into an entire movie. I really don't get it.
i haven't seen kiki precisely because i have always thought it looked lame.
I liked it better than Ponyo and Totoro, but I don’t like those movies either so it’s not saying much.
I watched kiki and spiderman 2 within the same week and was surprised how much overlap there is between themes/plot points, just a strange observation I had
People that moved away from their home city and tried to make something of themselves relate to it
Anything after spirited away. Take yourboicb
do you guys think miyazaki would kill his son if he could
Everyone is wrong. The worst is picrel
There at least 4 layers of copyright infringement here.
I actually watched this, and besides some name changes there is no difference between this and the original cut. Fake controversy.
All of the above
>Ghibli
>Good
lmfao
>you
>not gay
project much?
Any movie that fails to make you smile, sexy
arrietty or the cat returns
The one about a school class tidying up an old school building.
Pom Poko is absolutely heinous. Takahata doing Miyazaki pastiche over Miyazaki being the originally slated director. Total hackery.
Most of the them are bad. It would make more sense to ask which are their good films?
The answer is Totori, Grave, Kiki, Mononoke, Spirited, Kaguya
Laputa, Pom Poko, Only yesterday and Proco are also watchable. The rest is shit
The Cat Returns 8/10
Nausicaa 8/10
Castle in The Sky 7.5/10
Mononoke 7/10
Only ones I have watched.
>the cat returns 8/10
Basado! BASADO!!!
The Cat returns is so fricking underrated its unreal. Its funny how another director mogged Miyazaki by out-ghibling him. The cat returns is like the perfect Ghibli film imo along with spirited away.
Frick Earthsea, the artstyle looks amazing, specially the byzantine-like buildings, but then the plot is utter shit.
>Grave of the Fireflies
Not that it isn't good, but that it's un(re)watchable and definitely not for kids despite the medium.
all of them; Miyazaki should have just killed himself instead of using anime as some sort of self-therapy
The one about the turtle
The one with uninteresting characters where nothing happens but everyone gives it a break because of the "vibes."
My Neighbors the Yamadas and it's not even close.
>Wow, a family of boring buttholes! Can't wait to see them be lazy and forget things!
I enjoyed Yamadas but I completely understand why people don't like it/don't even realize it exists.
grave of the fireflies because its weak justification for japanese war crimes that are somehow never mentioned despite having multiple movies dedicated to civilian suffering in ww2.
Most things by miyzaki are pure slop, takahata has much more soul
>takahata has much more soul
Like raccoons with giant testicles?
Yes. It's genuinely one of the greatest films ever made.
Yes. It's incredibly weird to me that it's seen as one of the 'lesser' films, as its easily the studio's most complex (and hence ambitious in that sense) work while being no less well executed than their other greats.
It's only real flaw is that so much is going on that there's little time comparatively to focus on the stories of each individual character, and that it downplays the seriousness of some things by portraying them comedically. Otherwise its an outright fantastic epic that's dismissed too quickly by most for being an "animal film".
Most people just see "funny balls movie haha", and don't watch it. But those people are definitely missing out. "Survive the modern world" is probably even more relevant today than it was 30 years ago.
Just a reminder that this sequence was inspired by one of Roald Dahl's writings as a war pilot.
>It's only real flaw is that so much is going on that there's little time comparatively to focus on the stories of each individual character, and that it downplays the seriousness of some things by portraying them comedically.
Well said. I really liked it, just felt like tonal whiplash at times. The ending was bittersweet. It also pissed me off because there has been a lot of urbanization around my city over the past few years, so I've seen a lot of forested areas taken down and as a result have been seeing more wildlife out in the open (probably trying to find a home). Like yesterday I saw a coyote next to the highway in broad day light because they've been chopping down forests around that area to make way for parking lots and (vacant) office buildings. Like damn, poor animals.
Is it similar to the style of Whisper of the Heart, Only Yesterday, and From Up on Poppy Hill? If so, I think I'd like it.
>Whisper of the Heart, Only Yesterday, and From Up on Poppy Hill?
Honestly, no, it's not. It's more like if Ghibli tried making episodes of their own take on Shin-chan and strung them into a film.
>Is it similar to the style of Whisper of the Heart, Only Yesterday, and From Up on Poppy Hill?
Not really. It's more of an episodic movie chronicling random days in the life of the family. I'd say give it a shot if you're curious. You'll find out pretty quickly if it's a movie you want to completely watch or not.
obviously the shitty earwig flick. it's anti soul.
if Asteroid City was like a parody of Wes Anderson by Wes Anderson then Earwig Witch Adventures was like a parody of Studio Ghibli by Studio Ghibli
Spirited Away was a slog to sit through. Howl is fricking gay bullshit. If I want to watch some ching chong cartoons I'd watch something good like Akira.
Haven't even seen Earwig, and I probably never will. CGI Ghibli is weird.
For me it's The Cat Returns. The first movie was at least decent, but the sequel is boring as shit, and I hated it.
It's barely related to Whisper of the Heart besides sharing a character
The new one was rubbish tbf
Ocean Waves
This shit was so forgettable no one has mentioned it yet
>This shit was so forgettable no one has mentioned it yet
You're right, it totally slipped my mind, but that's to its benefit here. I barely even remember what happened in it, but I just don't recall it being particularly bad, just completely unmemorable, as it doesn't really feel like a Ghibli production.
Now that looks absolutely riveting. You just know from this poster that these young people will pontificate on the poetical aspects of life.
spirited away. you aint getting away with it ghibli
Castle of cagliostro is the worst for the damage it did to Lupin's character in almost all Lupin media made since.
What's wrong with it?
That's not even a Ghibli movie
Sorry your zany rapist character got a shot of character development up his butt. That must have been hard to process
>not even one person ITT said Castle in the Sky
I always knew Cinemaphile was based.
lol i completely forgot about that boring slop. I always mix it up with moving castle
No one mentioned Only Yesterday either
There's like three people here who have seen it, one of them being me.
If we're really talking Ghibli and not just Miyazaki's movies then Arrietty was pretty fricking dull. Totoro itself was boring and surprisingly uninspiring.
I didn't like Castle in the Sky but I'll forgive it as it's an early one.
Princess Mononoke is better than Spirited Away and The Wind Rises is better than The Boy and the Heron.
People are always giving awards to the wrong Miyazaki movies.
Everyone who has watched 3 or more anime in his life considers Mononoke better. The problem is, Spirited is much more digestible as a fairy-tale analogue, like Yidsney productions. It's also more child appropriate (in large part because the MC is a child herself). So to Hollywood boomers and other decisionmakers in this space, only Spirited Away noticeable.
>It's also more child appropriate
isnt the bath house basicaly a brothel?
No it’s your standard onsen. Get some culture, hillbilly
so you are telling me the god of smell wasnt metaphore for child abuse?
If it reminded you the smell of your father's dick in your nose when you were four, then you're right.
lol i knew you were a pedo. why bother defending your pedo movie?
Her parents clearly get tranformed into pigs, because they sold their daughter into a brothel. Its metaphore you illiterate Black person
Not a stink spirit, it's a river spirit that got polluted because pollution bad
like her innocence. Japs are disgusting like that
Yes. Obviously.
They are vastly different movies, both great in their own ways.
No it fricking wasn't.
The Wind Rises losing to Frozen at the academy awards is still so fricking insane to me. Hell the whole line up of animated films for that years awards were shit save for Wind Rises and Ernest and Celestine.
Feels bad man
Every Mizyaki film is the same
>military bad
>adult men bad
>women good
>kids good
>elderly good
>nature good
>strong 1st and 2nd act, rushed 3rd act
Also, Grave of Fireflies was ruined for me, by a single scene. The farmer tells Seita to go back to his aunt and apologize. He doesn't because he is too proud, instead, he becomes a starving thief.
So, it becomes a tale of hubris instead of survival. I just can't sympathize with him anymore.
Also
>working good
Since he's a kid with no parents I can accept that he'd make such a stupid decision.
For what it’s worth, it’s an autobiographical story and the author knew it was his fault his sister died.
It's just unrealistic.
The truth?
The way he behaved in the cartoon.
>nature good
have you even seen mononoke? The final lesson is kill nature and things will be arright and you will get wolf girl and your aids cured
I did. But I interpret it differently.
Everything bad in that film happens because humans are poisoning nature.
I also don't know what point of hiring bunch of prostitutes as to work as your fort garrison.
>Everything bad in that film happens because humans are poisoning nature.
nah eboshi creates a safe haven for exploited girls and lepers. They need wood for houses and iron for tools. Then wolfs, monkeys and boars try to kill them all because muh forest. So they defend themselves. and frick them up. In the end the death of nature heals the land which represents the cycle of decay and rebirth. The land is now tamed and friendly, and everyone is happy, except for the stupid boars and wolves who fertilized hte soil for better tomorrow
I'll sort out this high school level debate later, for now I just gotta say you're wrong about the prostitutes. The lepers make less sense, especially with how she makes a habit of personally visiting them. But having an Outer Haven with prostitutes like Lady Big Boss makes perfect sense. She has an absolutely loyal and zealous armed militia style force, not limited by the pride of their station, so they'll work and do anything they need to for her, she doesn't have to constantly worry about disloyal informers or dissent among the women. It's not just an interesting little anomaly, it makes perfect sense in context.
Wow, it's almost like Grave of the Fireflies is supposed to be about pride and stupidity killing people! It's almost like it's purposely meant to be a metaphor for war!
>The farmer tells Seita to go back to his aunt and apologize. He doesn't because he is too proud, instead, he becomes a starving thief.
That's literally the entire point of the movie.
Any critic who default to it being "anit-war" is a spinless brainlet
Old Woman is a villain in spirited away
that's disputable
I cry whenever I see the ending of pom poko
From all the ones I have seen: Ocean Waves
I get what it was trying to do, but I just hated every character in it (besides the girl friend from school who just wanted to be a good friend).
Pom Poko was good but it was waaay too long imo. They could have cut 1/3 of the movie out and it be better imo.
Oh wait, I take that back: I hated The Boy and the Heron. Very pretty movie, but the story was a train wreck in terms of pacing and clarity, and the characters weren't that good either. I understand the symbolism with Miyazaki, the basic story plots, and that its based on 'How Do You Live?'. I get all of that. I was very frustrated watching as it kept introducing more and more conflict without any resolution or explanation. If he woke up and it was all a dream, that would have made way more sense with how much it would introduce story plot lines. Even the characters reacted in much less human ways than other Miyazaki and Ghibli movies have them portrayed as.
I may like it more upon a second watching, but I'd rather watch any other movie instead. People compare it to Spirited Away, but I loved Spirited Away's story (the ending got wrapped up a bit too fast though imo).
>the ending got wrapped up a bit too fast though imo
Yeah, we needed a [deleted] scene, lol.
Why does nobody ever acknowledge this movie? I think it's pretty amazing actually. It's like a very fine and well done sitcom, but with weight.
I think Western viewers would enjoy it.
I feel like it's a very niche film that only appeals to those that really like slower, slice of life stuff. A lot of what westerners like about Ghibli films is that they're often times fantastical and whimsical or more grounded with a very engaging plotline. That and the artstyle is completely different from most other Ghibli movies which seems to turn off a lot of western viewers which is a shame because I love the way that movie looks. I do hope they bring it to western theatres for Ghiblifest someday, but that's probably never going to happen.
That’s another problem with stupid western audiences. There isn’t a “specific” Ghibli artstyle. Thier art style varies a lot.
>Thier art style varies a lot.
I'm always annoyed when I see shit online like "random show in Ghibli style" and they just make it look like Mononoke or Spirited Away.
If Matt Groening would say something like "I love this movie" it would have 20x more popularity, I guarantee it
Yep. Americans need to be told what to like by a israelite. The American Golem is incapable of independent thoughts. Why? Critical thinking always leads to antisemitism.
This, except you are just butthurt about not being American.
t. QED
It takes a lot of bravery to stand up against the peer-pressure and admit that this film is a direct upgrade over Nausicaa in many ways.
Only Yesterday, I understand it's meant to be a slow burn, slice of life thing, and that it's a rewarding watch, but both times I tried watching it I fell asleep somewhere around the 90 minute mark.
>and that it's a rewarding watch
It's frankly not so much. It's not a deep or particularly rich film. It isn't more nuanced compared to other Ghibli films by virtue of being about mundane real life and there's no need to feel guilt for just not liking it that much.
I think my sister has a crush on Howl. What do?
Most Ghibli movies are style and no substance. Admittedly, they are quite nice to look at, but I find them fricking boring. Porco Rosso is cool though.
The Cat Returns is alright, but it's not Miyazaki/Takahata quality.
Marnie was insanely good.
I haven't seen every Ghibli film, but I'm assuming Earthsea is the weakest.
>Marnie was insanely good.
Totally agreed. I think it is overlooked frequently. There are some weird moments here and there, and a bit too much of expedition dump at the end. Otherwise, I overall really enjoyed it.
Marnie is great but it pisses me off that leftists make it into a Lesbian thing. She is not gay for her fricking Grandma. Same way they cling to the "I'd rather be a pig than a fascist" line in Porco Rosso while totally missing the point.
Lmfao yeah man and the south will rise again huh? hahaha what a fricking cinema illiterate homosexual
I saw people online saying Luca had a gay relationship between the two boys, so I just completely dismissed it. Eventually I watched it reluctantly because people kept saying that wasn't true, and it turns out it really wasn't. I was mad to put it off for so long. I really liked Luca in the end.
Thankfully I didn't hear anything about Marnie till after I watched it and was very confused where they got that too. To be honest, when she was like 'keep our relationship a secret' was kind of weird, but it made sense if a person watched the movie and paid attention.
I showed my students several animated films. This is how the ranked the Ghibli ones I could show them:
>Howl's
>Ponyo
>Spirited Away
>Laputa
>The Cat Returns
>Nausicaa
I haven't seen them all yet but Nausicaa and Howl's are pretty bad
They're all the same film
Arr rook same
2nd half of Mononoke,Earthsea, Earwing, Howls and Boy and Heron.
either that sucky marney trash
or ponyo
both are utter diarrhea
I can't deal with Only Yesterday characters aging 60 years every time they crack a smile. What were the animators thinking
I see you moronic homosexuals saying Marnie is good
KYS
how many times can you take some dopy b***h depressingly say marney marney marney a million times in 2 hours
Even the worst is miles better than modern western animation.
Overrated pieces of shit like xmen97 "muh best xmen series" looks like it has flash animation, men withwoman faces and women with masculine faces. Either go back or learn form japs
So I’m reading through which ones are shit. But which Ghibli films ARE worth watching, particularly as an adult?
No cartoon is worth watching as an adult
There are a lot of contrarians posting here. Ghibli movies simply aren’t for everyone. Just like not everyone likes Naruto. That’s doesn’t mean Naruto is bad. If it was bad then it wouldn’t be loved by a billion people. Don’t make any of your decisions based on anything you read on Cinemaphile. These are some of the most miserable and lonely people you can imagine, screaming into the void and hoping for some echo to relieve their crippling loneliness. Even if that echo is an argument to their trolling
>ad populum
millions can like shit, and they do all the time
>millions are wrong
>I alone am right
Cringe
I agree. That anon should just watch what interests them, regardless of our opinions. Anything posted here should be taken with a grain of salt. That said, it is also good for getting names for things. For example:
>PRINCESS MONONOKE IS GARBAGE POO POO CRAP! IT'LL NEVER BE AS GOOD AS THE KINO THAT IS SPIRITED AWAY! AND ANOTHER THING BLAH BLAH BLAH
>looks up "Princess Mononoke" and "Spirited Away", watches their trailers
>makes an informed decision to watch either movie based on their own opinions and knowing what they like
I'd recommend the following as ones that I think capture the 'essence' of other Studio Ghibli movies in general and may be worth a watch if they interest you:
Princess Mononoke
Kiki's Delivery Service
Whisper of the Heart
Porco Rosco
This thread has made me lose faith in this board. You people are fricking insane.