What is the best Resident Evil film?
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Had such a huge crush on Milla in that movie. I wanted to reach into the screen and help fight with and protect her.
2nd one I guess.
Haha. That’s so gay.
Yep that's me alright, an overweight homosexual.
Apocalypse is the best one
Followed by retribution
case closed
Always loved Afterlife for some reason. I think I was 13 when that movie came out and I watched it in theaters.
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>To "prove" he didn't rape Rebecca
first
second was kinda alright but the ending was already a prospective of 3rd movie which is pretty horrendous
don't even care about whatever came out next
whatever happened to anderson after avp
>second was kinda alright but the ending was already a prospective of 3rd movie which is pretty horrendous
RE3 is Russell Mulcahy's magnum opus. It makes Highlander look like a high school play. It's also literally his only financially successful film.
>It's also literally his only financially successful film.
Razorback wasn't? Even in Australia?
Bizarrely, nope. Razorback lost money. The only reason Russel was able to keep making movies was that he's really nice to work with, and he was so passionate. He was also a hugely successful music video director so that meant he had some friends.
I really wish they had brought him back to do an RE movie instead of giving WTRC to Johannes Roberts.
For me...
> Resident Evil
Good
> Apocalypse
Decent (Jill keeps it from being weak to poor)
> Extinction
Very Good to semi Near Great
> Afterlife
Decent to Good
> Retribution
Decent to Good
Haven't seen Final Chapter
You post a comment with your opinion like it matters when you havent even seem the final chapter ? Disgusting.
Final Chapter is the Alien 3 of Resident Evil movies. Something went very wrong in terms of budget, shooting timeline, and script. It's absolutely worth watching, but it is a jarring follow-up to Retribution. I don't blame people who choose to stop at Retribution's cliffhanger. Because Final Chapter's solution is... it's frickin weird. Anderson literally got Alien 3 and started bolting random scenes from Soldier (1998) onto it. I'm not kidding. There are dozens of shots and sequences in TFC that are verbatim copied from Soldier. It's a weird, weird movie, and it feels like a director cracking under pressure while trying to hold the disintegrating movie together because he doesn't want to leave the story unfinished.
The script is so flawed that the official novelization gives up on trying to explain how the count-down timer works. Alice just admits she doesn't understand how killing Isaacs will save anyone. It's completely unexplained in the film. The whole "global Umbrella death squads" thing makes no sense. It feels like three different scripts filmed together.
Retribution makes sense. It is deliberately confusing but it has cards up its sleeve. The Final Chapter just screams really loudly and hopes you're distracted so it can can start retconning things.
It doesnt matter if final chapter is shit,, he hasnt seen it and thought hed give his opinion on a film series HE HASNT EVEN SEEN?
I think that seeing the first five films is enough to have a well rounded view on the franchise. If anything, the rest of the films get painted with RE6's brush way too much. People talk about super fast editing, but none of the earlier films are like that, except maybe parts of 2.
To be fair, it's pretty clear from the outside that Final Chapter isn't really the intended end to the series. If the studio had gone bankrupt instead and no REFC ever came out would his opinion be less valid? Also, and maybe this is just me, but it always felt like each RE film reinvented itself to the point that sequels were barely sequels so much as riffs with some continuity of backstory.
why don't you post a webm of that tank where zombies come out of it to no end
like there's a portal inside that tank
magnus opus lol
After AvP Anderson decided to get a lot more experimental. That's why Death Race was so bold and innovative when it came to shooting vehicular action. Nobody had made a car movie like that before. Then he made another RE film, Afterlife, and it opened with one of the most bold and experimental openings of any film, much less a zombie film.
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Does he rest on his laurels? No. He quickly follows up with Resident Evil: Retribution, which pushes experimental action filmmaking to a a whole new level. As one wise man put it, Paul W.S. Anderson walked so Christopher Nolan could shit the bed with Tenet.
Paul WS Anderson is George Lucas if he were born later and had an inferior film education and got really into genre films. I mean that as extremely high praise, the ideas that he has that are good are exceptional and there's more of them than you'd think. If I'd written a book or published a comic that leaned on the medium in a way that would make it hard to adapt I'd rather have Anderson make the film adaptation than a whole bunch of other more "respected" filmmakers.
You're 100% right about Anderson's education. He never went to film school. He also has no background in drama, and he's talked about how he isn't confident when it comes to dialogue and actors. His key passion is visuals, particularly telling the story through visuals. Anyone who has seen Lucas interviewed will recognize the parallels.
The film Soldier, where Kurt Russel's character barely speaks wasn't written by Anderson but I read the script and the script had WAY more talking and exposition, which Anderson gutted in favor of long lingering shots of Russel's face reacting to things.
>If I'd written a book or published a comic that leaned on the medium in a way that would make it hard to adapt I'd rather have Anderson make the film adaptation than a whole bunch of other more "respected" filmmakers.
I don't know why Anderson is so disrespected. I'm not sure what he has done to earn that disrespect. But there is absolutely a disdain for him and his work. Yet I keep seeing other filmmakers borrow from him.
I was watching Batman v Superman, and the scene where Batman swings Superman into pillars on a cable is taken directly from AvP. Except AvP did it better.
There's this strange refusal to take Anderson seriously, to view his work in any kind of academic context. When others copy Anderson, like when Rogue One borrowed the ending of Pompeii, nobody cares or notices.
Anderson is nothing like Bay or even Zack Snyder. In every interview he is immensely intelligent, well spoken, well read, and unpretentious. He has an immense appreciation for filmmaking as a craft, and worships the ground Ridley and Tony Scott walk/walked on.
He chose to make commercial fare. Because he doesn't have rich billionaire friends like Wes Anderson and Paul Thomas Anderson do. And even his lesser movies are still artistic in a way no studio slop is.
Even his most obscure TV movie, The Sight, shows a real artistry. The sneering and disregard for real talent makes me sad.
I'm so glad you said that. I think- if I can put my pretentious hat on for a second- it's because cinema isn't really taken seriously by most people except in where it's obviously art; like your Wes Andersons (who for the record I don't have a lot of time for), or where it's aping other mediums in what Lucas, I think, called photographed plays. You've got a handful or really respected and/or respectful directors who are sort of begrudgingly accepted as artists because they make films about shit that should be boring or repetitive but just aren't and you've got directors like Tarantino or Spielberg or even Lucas who make things that are just so successful commercially that their artistic expression is exposed to so many people who talk about how it effected them that it's impossible to pretend there's nothing there. Paul WS Anderson is in the unfortunate spot where he makes films that aren't successful enough to be marked as obviously artistic but they're also not about the fall of the Soviet Union as told from the perspective of a silent pigeon so you don't get any credit for discussing them either. There's some really cool ideas that he uses the unique features of cinema to explore and he's probably the only director I can think of that tried to do interesting stuff with 3D.
He's by no means perfect, I think you could have a really interesting conversation about where he falls short too but that conversation will never happen because people want to see him as a less good Michael Bay which is just factually wrong
There has been a pretty determined effort to undermine George Lucas, pretend the political themes in his films were accidental, that the ideas in Star Wars were all by other people. But it hasn't really stuck outside of people who hate the Prequel Trilogy.
Like, I watch Revenge of the Sith, and I see a film by a very passionate and intelligent filmmaker with power images and memetic lines. Yet for years people tried to downplay it all, pretend that Lucas had no idea what he was doing or saying with his films. A bunch of people didn't want to give Lucas credibility.
It's just hard to comprehend how he could frick up so fricking hard with the first two prequels. I can imagine why a lot of people jumped on the "George was always moronic" bandwagon but if you look at the facts it is clearly not true. Pretty much all the good ideas in Star Wars came from him and he was deeply involved in the OT even if he didn't direct them all. Star Wars is good (and bad) because of him, not in spite of him.
The thing is, Lucas made the films he wanted to make. Nothing about Attack of the Clones is accidental. He wanted to make a hammy as shit soap opera with detective noir elements because he digs that. The style of romance in Attack of the Clones? Wholly intentional. There's this idea that Lucas doesn't know how to direct actors. He successful got actors like Hayden to act like he's in a 1930s serial. I feel like nobody has actually seen Flash Gordon. Nobody understands what Star Wars even IS.
Sure he did whatever he wanted with the prequels, I have only mountains of respect for that, but that still doesn't make them good.
I do find it hard to believe Anakin being THAT much of an unlikeable creep was intentional, or that Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon not having a personality in TPM was intentional, or that the Jedi were supposed to fricking moronic buttholes. These movies are very flawed, it is impossible to deny that.
I recommend watching Flash Gordon.
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It gives a whole new understanding of Lucas and what the PT was trying to do.
I watched just a bit but I instantly get what you are saying. It still doesn't make these movies any better though.
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If you have a spare 90 minutes, The Sight is absolutely worth watching. It was a failed TV pilot turned into a film, ala the International version of Twin Peaks. Low budget, but spectacular imagery. And the little girl who plays the Red Queen in RE plays "Alice" in this.
Idk man his movies are kinda moronic. I don't think I hate him but he makes cheesy dudebro movies that usually aren't very good. Even Even Horizon is pretty fricking dumb. His Resident Evil movie (the first one) is a better adaptation than people give him credit for though, you can tell he really understood the point of the games even if he took a LOT of mostly unecesary and shitty liberties. Watching that Welcome To Raccoon City movie made me appreciate him a little more, that movie follows the games pretty closely but in a way where it becomes nothing but a string of pointless references that all seem to completely misunderstand the thing it is a reference to.
>Even Even Horizon is pretty fricking dumb.
How is it dumb?
The CONCEPT is quite interesting but the actual movie itself is pretty standard demonic horror stuff with waaay too much sillyness. What the frick was that looney tunes Black person doing in the movie? I fricking laughed more than I was scared.
>with waaay too much sillyness.
This is like criticizing Sam Raimi for rapid zooms. PWSA is the director who has Johnny Cage punch Goro in the nuts in the middle of his grimdark martial arts movie. He's the guy who has character say things like, "You frick with me and we'll see who shits on the sidewalk," in Death Race. This isn't a bug. This is a feature. His Alien vs Predator movie has the Predator (Scar) essentially fricking with Lex for shits and giggles, scaring her with the Alien corpse because it's funny. His adaptation of Three Musketeers has the main character having his horse impounded.
Anderson doesn't take even horror absolutely seriously. He creeps in that little bit of "This is all a bit fricking stupid, innit?" See Zack Snyder? Snyder takes zombies very seriously. Anderson recreates the opening scene of Dawn of the Dead just to emphasize that the house looks way more like a set than a real house.
Sure mate. The problem is that Sam Raimi makes the sillyness work and Anderson doesn't. In a movie like Mortal Kombat it's great (I actually really like that movie), but Event Horizon is just a straight up horror movie with a very dark and psychological kind of horror. The goofy shit doesn't fit and it really distracts from the good parts of the movie.
>Anderson doesn't take even horror absolutely seriously. He creeps in that little bit of "This is all a bit fricking stupid, innit?"
This is very true. The first time I watched RE2 I literally couldn't tell if it was supposed to be a comedy or not. Some of the action is so incredibly over the top, yet played so straight that I felt like it just had to be satire, but I couldn't tell for sure. A guy jumps out of a helicopter shooting dual desert eagles, hitting every zombie perfectly in the head and then lands after a 50 foot fall totally unscathed. It was shot so sincerely and played totally straight yet it's so ridiculous it made me laugh. Later the main character drives her motorcycle from the ground floor through the SECOND STORY of a church window, lands right in the middle of the set and blasts all the monsters perfectly then gets up like a badass. I honest to God could not tell if the director was sitting there going "Yeah this is so fricking cool" Or is he sitting there smirking going "I don't need to fully tip my hand, this is enough to indicate it's a joke"
Event Horizon is a very intelligent film, but Anderson has an immense fondness for putting tonally discordant moments. He does it in every single movie.
To put things in context, Event Horizon isn't based on Hellraiser. It's a loose adaptation of Solaris.
I think that's a very fair take. I'm very much a cork sniffing film snob, and while I think the RE movies are undeniably action horror schlock bordering on outright comedies in their absurdity and ridiculousness, they are always executed with a certain precision and artistry that's difficult to ignore.
> it always felt like each RE film reinvented itself to the point that sequels were barely sequels so much as riffs with some continuity of backstory.
I think this is a great way to look at them. The over arcing story between all 6 movies really doesn't make a ton of sense, and it's downright amusing how the villain in one movie will become an ally in the next, and then vice versa down the line.
It really depends on whether you're talking about action or horror. The best RE film as a horror film is the first. The best RE film as an action film is the 5th film, RE: Retribution. Retribution is a masterpiece of kinetic cinema that deconstructs and reconstructs its predecessors and its franchise. In a recent interview, director Paul W.S. Anderson said that he wanted RE5 to be a film about storytelling and character through action. He didn't want much dialogue, but the studio objected thus the Red Queen scenes were added. He wanted RE5 to be a film about Alice tumbling down the rabbit hole. Down and down and down, like a waking nightmare. In a dream, you can transition from one scene to the next very easily. You are in your house, then you're somewhere else. Anderson originally wanted Alice to wake up and die and wake up without explanation. He wanted the film to operate on dream logic without any exposition until the last section of the film where it would be revealed what was going on.
By the way it's so obvious at this point that you make these threads yourself since you always conveniently show up to post these exaggerated complimentary posts about Anderson. Put on a trip so I can filter you
>It really depends on whether you're talking about action or horror
This one. https://youtu.be/qPg0UMiMoTE?si=8CYFnC5SRbwBuk9k
Online discourse around the RE films confuses me. Looking at Box Office Mojo, RE2/3 made about 140 million each. Then RE4 explodes to 300 million. RE5 makes 240 million. RE6 makes 312 million. The films got more popular the more post-apocalyptic they got. So where does this idea that people only like the first two come from? It's like saying that people only like the first John Wick movie. I'd argue it's the best, sure, but I wouldn't pretend that John Wick 4 was some kind of unpopular movie.
>The films got more popular the more post-apocalyptic they got.
Not necessarily post-apocalyptic, but rather they got more popular the more they shifted away from horror towards balls to the wall action. What's curious is that back in 2012, Retribution had worse word of mouth than Afterlife. But I think a lot of that comes down to the intentionally disorienting story. In the subsequent decade, a lot more people have come around to Retribution and Afterlife's flaws seem more obvious. The fight scenes in Retribution are leagues better.
>So where does this idea that people only like the first two come from?
The first two movies are the most similar to the games. The first movie follows the broad strokes of RE1's scenario while Apocalypse follows the broad strokes of RE3 (with a little bit of RE2 in there as well).
The only people who give a shit about these movies enough to talk about them years after the fact are (for the most part) fans of the games.
the one where russia and the us use ukraine as a puppet state to test some zombies
the one by Pierre Woodman that never got made due to a lack of funding:
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Extinction is preposterously underrated!
Pros!
> Desert setting is great & gritty.
> Early scenes with them foraging for food in dark abandoned buildings is suspenseful and moody.
> Milla's acting is decent compared to the rest of the series.
> Her fights with the double machetes is badass.
> Alice's outfit is the best of the series. Remains sexy but the big jacket hides how small and frail her arms are.
> Guy from the Mummy films is solid here.
> Decent villain actor.
Cons!
> Final battle is weak.
> Alice is overpowered
> No Jill
Seconded.
Plus you have spencer locke to ease the absence of sienna.
Aesthetically it's my favourite except maybe for the first film, I agree with everything you said except I'd like to add on to Ian Glenn point by saying that he was a fantastic villain. One of the few good decisions from Final Chapter that wasn't motivated by pure inertia was bringing Isaacs back. Degrassi Wesker did well but the films don't support Wesker in the same way the games too
The script originally had both Jill and a scene showing how Alice left the group behind, but due to a scheduling conflict they had to rewrite and replace her with Claire.
The fact the movies preferred to rewrite the script instead of recasting is kind of interesting because... I wonder if Anderson, who was scriptwriter, was pushing for that. He hated MK: Annihilation, which recast a bunch of roles.
But yea, Extinction is great and I've always been puzzled by the hate it gets. I think maybe what happened is that people started to resent the films deviating further and further from the games. Extinction marks the point where it's a total tonal break. There had never been an RE game set in the daytime. RE5 was years away.
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if they didn't bother trying to connect it to the first movie too much, and Alice wasn't in the second one and it was just Jill, Carlos and some survivors going around Raccoon City, running from Nemesis, it would easily be the best one. the parts with Jill going through the church and the elementary school feel the most true to RE. but then Alice has to come along at the right time, showing up with a cigarette, or bursting through the window on a bike, to deliver the final blow and remind you how cool of a character she is.
and without Alice, you wouldn't have to see Nemesis shed a tear as she beats him up with her karate.
and more importantly, the nude scenes with Alice could have all been replaced with nude scenes of Jill. thoughts?
Apocalypse is basically a loose RoboCop riff about internal conflict within the Umbrella Corporation. Turning it into an RE3 adaptation leaves a much blander movie.
Jill vs Nemesis is boring. It's just a slasher chase movie. Alice vs Nemesis is two Umbrella weapon projects, ala RoboCop and ED-209 being pitted against each other. I fail to see how being more like the videogame would make the movie better.
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Which one has the most nude milla?
The second one Jill Valentine feet
The "authentic" CG movies were such a snorefest jfc
The Resident Evil movies are my guilty pleasure. They are garbage but I enjoy watching them all the same.
Nice to see Apocalypse getting the love it deserves, its truly the best Resident Evil movie in terms of looks and story
First one.
why was milla cool with showing her pusy in the first one? she even tells viewers when to pause in the commentary
She was almost fully naked during The Fifth Element and I think she did some nude photoshoots before she was an actress.
first 2 are cheesy but enjoyable while still having some iconic scenes like the laser grid. after that anderson was literally just making fan fictiction for his real life waifu while MAYBE throwing in a few video game characters like chris towards the end
I've always loved that moment in the 1st when they first enter the Hive and the one guy hears dozens of moans coming through the ventilation shaft and then someone talks to him for a second and when he turns back to it it's completely silent. After 20 years that scene still sticks out to me.
I actually rewatched the first one last weekend for the first time since it was at the theater, and was actually surprised to realize that I didn’t hate it. Back in the day, I was disappointed with the first one, and fricking loathed the second one, and ignored everything that came after. I think that now that everything in the last 5-10 years has been written by Tumblr runoff with endless political axes to grind, it was actually kind of refreshing to see a more “traditional” bad movie with that comfy late-90s/early-00s atmosphere.
wtf happened to this series. literal kino and then the last 3 were just absolute garbage and looked like a high school video
Second one, then maybe the 4th one. The one with the amazingly cool opening in Japan. Think the bloke from prison break and Tig from sons was in it.
5th one wasn’t bad either tbh. Garbage, but dare I say it, are garbage.
6th was crap.
The 3rd one has moments but was silly because powers and all the water drying up because the director wanted to make hills have eyes or something instead.
Retribution