I personally like G1(all three seasons, including the 1986 movie) and Prime the most.
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Prime
Felt like they did a lot with a little
>Felt like they did a lot with a little
Kind of the opposite, they were apparently straight up *making new models* for every fricking character every goddamn episode or so I'm told, as well as entirely new desert wastelands every goddamn time. It caused the budget to shoot into space and caused massive production problems, to the point that it's the reason RID2015, Cyberverse, and Earthspark were all given tiny budgets relative to Prime.
WFC and FOC should have been an entirely separate continuity. That's some of the best transformer's content ever made.
They are. The books, the games, and the shows are canonically and officially three separate universes.
The INTENT, and initial official word, was that they were all the same universe. It quickly didn't pan out, so that was changed.
Other things you might not be aware of:
- Aligned stuff had the intent of being sequestered from the rest of the TF multiverse. Never really worked in practice, and officially not the case anymore.
- Unicron, Primus, and the 13 had the intent of being just singular guys in the muiltiverse. Never really worked in practice, and officially not the case anymore.
- Beast Wars is not a direct sequel to anything*. It creates its own G1 backstory using parts of the G1 cartoon, parts of the G1 comics, and parts it makes up itself. It's a separate universe from anything that came before it.
*In English media. In Japanese media, it is.
>It quickly didn't pan out, so that was changed
Yeah, they became part of the Bayverse with Rise of the Dark Spark.
They just crossed over. Except really not, a Macguffin just went from their universe to the Aligned one. They're still separate.
The only thing that bothered me in Prime is how completely dead the background and surroundings in a few episodes are, otherwise I would agree.
This is true but Nevada looks like that IRL.
Prime will always be my favorite because it was my first, and even though the cracks with the show and Aligned started showing at the end, the character designs and animations were on another level.
Transformers Go Go is just a cute comic overall, especially the strips of Arcee hanging out with Bee.
I agree, the animation in Prime was great.
The animation looks great but their faces always bother me. Like 3d emojis.
Size shifting looks fun.
"I watch Prime for the plot"
*absolutely insane guitar riff* BEAST WARS
These, i fricking love 90's tv-grade cgi and anything with scott mcneil is certified kino, except next mutation, but i like how fricking stupid it is.
GI seemed like the only time they were willing to have fricking huge teams of characters.
Every other show wants to keep things to about 5ish total Autobots and maybe 3-5 Decepticons.
The Unicron Trilogy has a larger cast.
I don't know if that is possible. The G1 cast is fricking massive.
There's a difference between "willing" and "able".
Also, plenty of shows have had a frick huge cast.
Beast wars.
It's not even a contest.
RID 2001 because of this motherfricker right here (among other things).
guess who's getting a new toy
I know, but it just seems to similar to the original for me to justify buying it. That little dude made of Ultra Magnus' gun thing looks cool though.
That frickhuge sword is mainly why I'm so excited for this. Plus it was about damn time we got more RiD love
I agree with this anon. Plus the sword might mean we will get RIDs Fortress/Brave Maximus.
G1 and Animated are tied for me.
Animated reinvents some of the classic characters in an unique way and does some interesting things with previously more obscure ones. Prowl is probably my favourite in that show.
Beast Wars because it's basically a 90's syndicated sci-fi series first and it just happens to also be a a kid's toy show.
It has that mix of being well written but not being too pretentious, funny in a more witty way but not afraid to do a more basic toilet humor joke, story driven but has solid individual episodes, and a solid cast of characters.
tl;dr it reminds me of stuff like Babylon 5(of which it shares a main writer), Stargate, Xena, etc.
G1/Movie, Beast Wars and Prime, love the Acree and Airachnid rivalry/fight scenes. Bless the crew for filling my kink.
For me its Knockout.
SEXOOOOOOOOO
G1.
Car Robots/RiD2001
It's just plain fun.
Hell yeah dude.
Beast Wars by a country mile.
Beast Wars with Animated being a close second
I will forever be a bestie boy.
>And YOU...YOU NO LONGER EXIIIIIST!
BW Megs remains the GOAT
The new comic is good. The new show is not so good. Toyline is doing fine
Beast Wars
It's not perfect, the first season is all over the place and the third season is rushed, but they're all great and the second season is some of the greatest Transformers media of all time
Beast Wars for various reasons
Two big reasons
>actual modeled pussy in the show
Amazing what they got away with.
If by "pussy" you mean "straight cylindrical tube they slapped into the model for a brief laugh for one sort scene", sure.
Stop lusting to female giant robot.
For me it's Transformers Victory. Deathsaurus is still one of my favourite transformers to this day.
masterforce
>Series is about sentient giant robots
>Japan continue the serie but introduce mechas
Based?
The transformers were a carry over from diaclone, a Japanese vehicle mecha toyline. It's more of a return to tradition
Diaclone never had an anime. It's more the Japanese being stubborn and trying to do something different from America.
Japan must have to pay to show the American written cartoons and hate it. They almost always dub the characters as jokes and produce an inferior product. One has to wonder if they don't on purpose in an attempt to kill the show and get out of paying to air it.
Allowed to do their own thing they go off in weird directions like masterforce or the Brave Series. They just don't seem to have interest or the ability to make a cartoon for teens and parents about alien robots (which is a surprise). If they do make a show about alien robots they target 4 to 6 year olds. If they make a show for 12 year olds and parents they make a mecha show. They are unable to take real scifi for young adults and their adult parents seriously
>If they do make a show about alien robots they target 4 to 6 year olds.
Because that's Takara's target audience. It's why the shows get jokier dubs. They know once the audience reaches 9-10 they go for other toys.
>Belly missile launcher.
Alright that's cool. How cool are the Japanese G1 transformers?
you tell me
The shows or the toys?
I miss this Overlord.
Beast Wars always
Beast Wars is probably the best.
I'd say I like Armade, Masterforce and Victory the most.
RiD15 is underrated.
The original Bay Trilogy has a fond place in my heart.
Beast Wars
Beast Wars
Victory.
G1, Beast Wars, and Prime.
>I personally like G1(all three seasons, including the 1986 movie)
Based. My only problem with it is that it starts buckling under the number of combiner teams Hasbro is forcing them to put in.
Am I the only one who enjoyed this steaming pile of dog shit?
Yes, because it was actually pretty funny.
I'm being cheeky, every time I try discussing botbots everyone just says it sucks and the discussion goes nowhere. Really upsetting that it's so unfairly maligned and we only got a handful of episodes with no chance of another season because it's my favorite series in the franchise and the gateway that introduced me to transformers all because I randomly stumbled across it on netflix and there was nothing else to watch
It was refreshing, really. Ended far too soon.
I liked it because it was dumb and didn't take itself seriously. Not every single example of transformers media has to be episodic, violent, perilous and emotionally engaging but I guess I'm in the minority because the average TF autismo pissed their pants crying over botbots for being a unique change of pace. Maybe the reason I loved it so much was because I wasn't part of the fanbase
>I guess I'm in the minority
Oh yeah sure because the majority of TF series Cinemaphile loves is so damn dark and serious.
compared to botbots? Absolutely. They're not fighting some existential threat, protecting mankind, saving hapless townies or whatever contrived drama that spans entire seasons. The lore and continuity isn't important, it's just goofy robot hijinks
It's just a case of not being something the fanbase really wanted.
Because I actually like TRANSFORMERS not whatever that is. I don't care about branding, it's a completely different type of series and type of cartoon that attracts people that like completely different things.
This is like asking why there aren't many Smurf fans in the Samurai Jack or old Simpsons fandom. There will always be some that like both, but these series are so vastly different that it's odd as frick to expect it. Some corporation saying that all three series are part of the same universe won't change that.
Besides that it's ugly and I don't even watch TF cartoons if they are ugly. The French Fry guy is the only one with an almost decent character design, he's probably the only good character too.
why call it dogshit? it was good
G1 had the best Optimus Prime.
>blue balls optimus
yeh naw
Generation Selects
Ya know Sakamoto, sometimes you can be TOO nerdy.
mandatory mental illness post...
literally what the frick are you talking about
Wondered too but thought he was referring to a meme I don't know and I don't want to be called a newbie again
What the frick am I reading?
It seems pretty self-explanatory. What part of it are you having difficultly with?
Why someone devoted time, effort, and brain cells to write it? That's the part I don't get.
Why not? It would be a minuscule amount of effort. There's no downside.
Except the person that wrote it needs medication
For what reason?
You seem to think everyone inherently shares your internal context. We don't. You need to actually explain the thought process behind your odd statements.
It's pretty simple if you have even the vaguest familiarity with these characters/ toys but let me try to simplify it
>they made tiny budget versions of RiD Optimus
>They made a yellow version as part of a store exclusive
>when they made a reference guide for how all these repaints and exclusives might work like in story, they decided to make this one a fembot
>Years later a Japanese creator decides to make another fembot inspired by it by using the toy the budget toy was based on.
You got the last two wrong. I'd correct them but i'm eating
it's simple even without the real-world backstory
The Dreamwave comics, Marvel UK comics, IDW1 comics, IDW2 comics and the other comics between them including short stuff. Not rating Skybound yet but it's a pretty good start. Unlike Earthspark.
The PC games were also top tier.
I dropped every cartoon but TFA, G1+movie and Cyberverse.
Transformers Armada, it's my childhood sweetheart
Bots not having human feet is one of the reason for why I prefer them over 2D humans.
I want to watch Prime but I can't get past the annoying weeb girl.
There's a couple focus episodes with her you might want to avoid then (Deus Ex Machina, Shadowzone, TMI) the humans get more sidelined as the series progresses anyways
The humans but especially her killed it for me too. I also hated the robot designs and the story wasn't particularly interesting but this was the worst part and they got so much focus that I never made it past episode 6.
G1 and prime obviously. First and second best always
When does Prime get good? I never watched far since it felt like just another "nerdy kids finding mcguffin and robots that babysit them" story and the 3D models and designs are awful.
it gets worse, not better
Then why is it so popular? Is it another case of "show I love because I watched it when I was 12"?
>s1 is the good part
Welp, maybe it's just not for me then. Thanks. I somehow thought s1 was the uninspired part and s2 would start the serious shit.
It's basically the closest thing to a modern, back to basis series that also has a reasonable budget and was the main series coming off the big days of the Baymovies so there was a bigger audience then there had been in the decades prior. TF went from a popular but bottom of the top 5 franchise for boys, to the top for a few years.
So yes, but it has a specific setup as to why so many 8-12 year olds grew fond of it.
Honestly, if the five part episodes don't do it for you and you don't like the designs then I probably wouldn't bother with the rest.
Even though there is a lot of great stuff in the show in all three seasons.
Maybe give "Thirst" a watch, It's a Deception only episode and easily the most fun episode in the series. "Armada" is also fun, this one has multiple clones of Starscream.
Armada is one of the WORST episodes, because it crams, and concludes(!) THREE different plots into one episode, when they could have easily be expanded upon throughout the season. Instead, we get fetch quest after fetch quest.
Eh, sure. I never really had a problem with the fetch quests of Prime, because at least in season 1 and 2 these usually did some interesting things or were powerful new weapons (this is a action focused show after all) Only got boring in season 3 when the fetch quests turned into hunting for actual bones, even then these were just a means to get to the action or some characterization like
said
>powerful new weapons
My issue with this is that they're never actually make an impact. All of Prime's significant moments seem glazed over quick. Silas gets put in Breakdown's body? Ok it's resolved in one episode and he's killed in another scene a few episodes later. Bulkhead is possibly damaged for life? Not really. The Autobots get the legendary Star Saber? It's cool, Megatron can just go to Cybertron and get a weapon.
Like even Armada, for all it's flaws, the Star Saber changing hands was a big deal. In Prime none of the weapons feel like it matters.
It's got really good animation, easily some of the best in the franchise despite being CG. The Wreckers/Predaking fight is top tier.
If only shows like Cyberverse had this kind of budget.
Everyone always praises the CGI of Prime, but the show never gets creative with it. In Beast Wars they'd frick the up the models six ways to sunday to show damage, but the characters of Prime almost never get a scratch on them.
I'd be lying if I said it was anything other than Beast Wars.
>Larry and Bob hated Scott McNeil's Waspinator voice so much they looked for every excuse they could to blow him up
Fricking kino
The decepticon stooges were strangely invincible if you think about it. Sure Waspinator would have his ass handed to him over and over again. But man the things he survived. There's an energon crystal blast near the final episodes that Inferno blows in a suicide bomb attempt and he still lives so they could use him again in a final battle
Beast Wars. I don't see how it can be any other way.