This. Wnet to the kinoplex for every mcu capeshit from Iron man all the way to endgame (except for Dr strange). Checked out after endgame. The old guard is gone or dead and the new guys are either B or C tiers from the old guard or diversity hires you couldn't pay me to watch. still watching the Spiderman movies though.
People don't care if the series is called like FF, Dead or Alive or Final Destination.
Calling an entry Endgame or World Fantasy 8: The Final Fantasy is different and the problem
Nobody played all Final Fantasy games. You can play FF12 without touching FF7 and then play FF2 before hooking yourself on FF14. You'd only miss the refmote references, but each can be appreciated by themselves.
Good fricking luck appreciating Multiverse of Madness or Thor Ragnarok if you've never watched any Marvel movies before. Even if you only watched Thor movies or Dr Strange movies, youd still not understand anything thats going on.
> youd still not understand anything thats going on.
ah yes. because the mcu is known for such deep lore. i haven't seen either of those movies, but i assume the good guys fight the bad guys and the good guys win.
The newest film requires viewing of at least 2 prior movies and a television show to be cohesive. With each additional entry that calls back to previous movies the amount of necessary content to consume increases. Your argument that the basic assumption of these movies holds true doesn't change that fact. You could watch Return of the King and still understand the basic gist of the plot without having watched the prior 2 films, that does not mean they aren't required viewing to fully appreciate the product (however good or bad it is).
I'm guessing the picture was taken during the previews. Not all movie previews are in 3D, but most people put their glasses on as soon as they sit down
This phase is aimlessly meandering trash. Everyone movie/tv show is completely insignificant. Remember Lokis ending when everyone was like WOW THE MULTIVERSE IS STARTING HERE THIS IS GOING TO CHANGE THE WHOLE MCU. It’s never been mentioned again. It wasn’t even the cause of multiverse of madness. It was retconned already that it was Dr Stranges dumbass spell for Spider-Man. They can’t even connect the most basic shit anymore. Feels like none of the directors or creators are communicating with each other anymore. There is no cinematic universe anymore. Just throwing out bait to see if something catches popularity. If it does, they may bring it back. If it doesn’t it’ll be forgotten instantly and retconned by something else
The Multiverse only seems irrelevant because they're handling the Multiverse like shit.
Doctor Strange completely half assed it.
Spider-Man was fun but felt like a set-up for Doctor Strange which, half assed it.
WandaVision was also a set up for Doctor Strange which, you guessed it, half assed it.
The only Multiverse story that seemed compelling was Loki. And they almost pretend it holds no weight on the overall story.
I believe in a few years we'll look back at Doctor Strange in The Multiverse of Madness as the first big frick up from Feige and his team. They oversold and under-delivered.
It baffles me that Sony knew how to handle the multiverse concept and nostalgia bait better than Disney/MCU and according to the leaks better than WB. Fricking Sony.
Which is insane considering the arsenal of characters Disney currently has. If Marvel Studios isn't currently playing a long set up for Secret Wars they're proper fricked. Nostalgia bait is hot right now and nothing would be bigger than a massive 2 part Secret Wars style Multiverse movie involving every Marvel movie character to ever exist.
From Wesley Snipes as Blade to James Marsden as Cyclops. I mean you bring back everyone.
Credit where credit is due.. Sony handled Far From Home like pros and gave people exactly what they wanted.
>Credit where credit is due.. Sony handled Far From Home like pros and gave people exactly what they wanted.
It started before that with Into The Spiderverse even.
Wasn't the Illuminati supposed to be like the big brains of the marvel universe? Why the frick was girl captain America, captain marvel, and blackbolt apart of it? Made zero sense.
Black Bolt was a part of it because of his status as king of his world, same with Namor. The other two were added in because we need women and representation. Which is fricking stupid but it's the MCU
it seems every movie is setting up their own version of the multiverse because they knew that they wanted to do something with it, but nobody had a consistent reason why. So we have a spiderman one, a dr. strange one, a Loki one. And each of them are completely separate from each other and are not tied in any way.
No one has ever cared about thor. Friendly reminder that back in the early 90s SONY was given an offer from Marvel to buy the film rights to alllll of thier characters for 50k. SONY lol'd and told them "no one gives a shit about anything that isnt Spider-Man"
They were not wrong then, and still are not wrong now.
Ragnorok really was shit and I don't understand why people like it. It felt like it was trying too hard to be comedic.
I'm also really pissed off that we're not getting a Guardians/Thor movie, I was actually looking forward to watching Thor fly around in space and get into adventures.
This movie will still make a shit load of money. People love Chris Hemsworth and it’s literally an event for people to go to a theater to see the new marvel flick
>People love Chris Hemsworth
Women, homosexuals and trannies love Hemsworth. Same as the GoT as Aquaman. It will sell tickets just because he makes panties moist.
But this, and Guardians 3, will be the last movies Hemsworth makes for Marvel.
It is likely this movie will do fairly well. I suspect it will make north of 600 million. But it is yet another worrying sign for Marvel, as it is possibly the last movie of yet another mainstay. After Hemsworth is gone, there will be few stars left to carry the franchise. Holland has expressed on more than one occasion that he wants to retire in his role, at that point you will have essentially Pratt to act as the face of the series with numerous new additions that have not been received well. If you have no Iron Man, no Cap, no Thor, no Spider-Man, no Ant Man, no Hulk, no Black Widow, no Scarlet Witch, what the frick do you have? All of the successors they have set up have been a total bust, can you imagine an Avengers with fem Thor, black Cap, the Wasp, Captain Marvel, and maybe Dr. Strange? Shit is going to suck dude.
Okay I know what to do. What we need is more quips. Especially jokes where a female character emasculates a male character. More diversity because come on it's 2022. Tessa Thompson as Valkyrie was a stroke of genius.
We need more female superheroes too. The men had their time. Did I mention more quips?
Don't the comics exist *solely* so that they can hold on to the IPs?
As in some Disney exec hooks his friend's kid up with a writing job right out of art school because he'll work for cheap and they give absolutely zero shits about making money on comics?
Now, yes. Numbers that used to get your comic canceled before are now lauded as great successes. Comics in general have been fading over the years, that's why Demon Slayer alone mogged all over western comics and graphic novels.
i had a feeling this would be shit purely because people gave Thor: Ragnarok such high praise. that movie was mostly good because the previous two thor movies sucked ass so there were low expectations and we actually got a pretty fun and competent movie. now there are high expectations so of course they'd frick it up. Ragnarok was a fun side story with only three characters we knew going in fricking off to a place that is basically irrelevant to the broader story/MCU and have a little adventure. This movie, they're shoving so much shit in like Thor, natalie porman, that black girl, the guardians of the galaxy, the other little friends thor met in the last movie like the rock guy, probably loki, etc. just seems like a mess
>the previous two thor movies sucked ass so there were low expectations and we actually got a pretty fun and competent movie.
I never saw The Dark World but I legitimately liked the first Thor and thought it did a good job telling the story of Thor being forced to learn humility and humanity.
I didn't like Ragnarok, I felt like it was trying to hard to be funny and made Thor into a bit of an idiot. I also don't feel like Thor really learned anything or grew as a person.
Dark World was the weakest MCU movie when it was released. The plot is dumb, they kill off his mother for no reason, and then Loki is 'killed" and then somehow impersonating his father, with no explaination. You can fast forward through the Portman sequences, because they're irrelevant.
Then Thor for no good reason turns down the throne? Why? He didn't cause any events of the movie, and saved the day. And the whole 'dark elves" bullshit was the weakest antagonist ever.
Ragnarok is fun (at times), and goth death mommy Cate, even though it's too much of that butthole Ruffalo, and "yas qwayne" Thompson, and a phoned in performance by Goldblum. But it didn't suck as hard as Dark World did, so it's considered a "triumph" by the Feige asslickers. It's not the worst MCU, I'd put it in the "watchable, but not offensive or boring" middle of the list, above the Eternals and Shang Chink.
the biggest problem with Ragnarok is that it tells jokes during supposedly serious scenes, so you never feel that the stakes are actually ever high. critics are saying that this new movie basically does that even more.
Since Endgame every movie has become more woke and diverse. Not only that but they clearly have no plan and though that they could shove anything in there that people would eat it, same with Star Wars.
>Guess it's not for me.
Pretty much this.
A friend of mine is a pretty liberal woman, type of person who would see a movie because it's great that it's diverse, and even she's tuning out of Marvel because they suck now. She outright said that she felt like Multiverse of Madness insulted her intelligence.
I've noticed that in general with women and minorities I speak to, is that the trend of forced diversity is insulting and patronizing to them.
This. They took the nu wars route, put a turbo feminist in charge who cares more about diversity and strong lesbians than making a coherent interesting story.
>What killed the MCU?
Unironically Guardians of the Galaxy.
The MCU has always had quips and Guardians of the Galaxy is one of the best MCU movies that I agree with, but it seems like the MCU's takeaway from GOTG is that they should just go completely wild with the comedic tones and not put as much effort into the writing as they should. Look at how they "fixed" Thor movies, they just turned them into knockoff GOTG movies. Ragnarok's success dealt the second blow, and it all resulted in Love and Thunder.
Jay will talk shit about it the entire review and then say he liked it at the end. Mike will be a fat moronic manbaby who can't stop talking about Star Trek for 2 fricking minutes I hate that ape looking frick so much I wish Rich Evan's would smother him with his hairy dumper.
Social Justice and its toxic, cognitively dissonant culture or religion that comes with it. It has made movies, games and other world escaping activities unappealing and preachy.
Reminder after captain marvel, captain america was relegated to a pre-hero that was forgotten by humans and then reused when they needed to form the avengers.
Before that woke shitfest he was the original hero, now he's a joke.
You could have erased captain america from history and things would have been the same, as the avengers initiative kickstarted because of denvers only.
MCU is in a positive feedback loop where they keep making the same cheap comedy crap because that’s what the average fan wants and expects. Why take a creative risk like Joker when you already have a winning formula?
Unironically not woke enough. There are no white people in America so why do they keep making movies with white protagonists that are doomed to fail? They should have learned their lesson from Black Panther. Americans can't relate to white people.
I remember reading the god butcher comics in a Cinemaphile storytime thread many years ago and it was some of the most badass and darkest marvel comics I had ever read. Why did they take that story of things and turn it into some weird ass comedy?
This is one of my gripes with the MCU. None of the heroes really feel cool or have badass moments anymore like they do in the comics. They all feel like idiot buffoons who just quip.
Damn, the og Iron Man was a legitimately good film.
That whole scene where he destroyed the tank and kicked those terrorists' asses felt just like early 2000s ultimate Marvel. You could tell it was nerds making a movie for other nerds.
Now it's just committees appealing to the lowest common denominator and China in an attempt to make the most money.
Disney makes money based on their ESG score. They don't give a flying frick if no one goes to see these movies as long as they keep being cut checks by Larry Fink. That is why they will continue to endure these flops over and over and over again, and you'll continue to wonder why they do it.
That's because they don't really have to carry their own movies anymore. Even Spider-man had Doctor Strange and his special effects crew helping him out to paint over what a godawful swiss cheese plot NWH had.
When s2 of this shit?
Was Loki good? I genuinely enjoyed Hawkeye but my understanding is that D+ content is almost universally bad.
Loki is pretty good. The first couple of Wandavision episodes are also good - but it falls apart towards the end. Every other marvel show has been pretty bad though.
>Was Loki good?
It's the only D+ show I liked. Hiddleston carries it and he's got chemistry with Owen Wilson. It's honestly pretty comfy. The only thing that ruins it is that they turned Kang into a Black person.
Loki is shit. They retcon the whole MCU for no reason, and this Loki is a "variant" who doesn't matter to the mainstream stories in the MCU. They just cashed in on the popularity of Hiddleston, but he's dead in the main timeline. The story itself is really fricking dumb. Hiddleston tries, but even his talent can't rise above the shit writing and directing.
They could have done a prequel to him, shown him torturing his brother as a teen or something, but that would have driven the budget through the roof getting the mainstream characters onto the show.
The Disney+ shows are VERY low budget, like the Lucas TV shows. They're not putting the same money into them like the movies, and they rarely have more than one or two big names in them.
Ruins the character, completely butchers everything about the multiverse, writers project their gay logic onto every character and female Loki was cringe. Carried by Tom and Wilson and the soundtrack was pretty good for a marvel show
>Was Loki good? I genuinely enjoyed Hawkeye but my understanding is that D+ content is almost universally bad.
I enjoyed it. Main plot goes a bit dumb at the end, but good acting all around, good cast, excellent cinematography and sound. Didn't watch Captain Fungus and haven't watched anything Marvel since Endgame. Well, besides Wanda, which was meh.
This is what pains me the most about this pos. Taika had to take my all time favourite Thor comic, and perhaps the only decent one to come out fairly recently, and turned it into his typical brand of woke snl humour.
Him, Trank and Trevorrow can frick off for all i care.
a Thor God of Thunder comic run from 2013. It was very well received by fans as far as modern comics go due to its great art and a really good story. For some reason in this new movie, they picked Gorr, the main villain from that story arc but apparently nothing else from it.
It hasn’t gotten any better or any worse. You can only shit out the exact same product so many times before some people start getting bored. That said, there’s enough morons and teenagers that they won’t really see the material effects of this for a long time. These will still continue to make loads of money cause they’re the only movies that do.
The lack of new interesting characters and old characters retiring, now add pozzed shit, no big plot between movies and shit shows and you get MCU phase 4
Going noticeably more woke is what killed it. A shitty movie like Ironman 3 is something you'd probably never watch agian, but atleast it was harmless. This phase has some hostility to it, like it thinks it's better than you.
I can’t think of any MCU movie I watched more than once. They’re good at keeping your attention as you watch it but they’re so forgettable after the fact and incompetently made that they’re not worth revisiting. Not a single one.
>What killed the MCU?
Lack of sexy ladies, the same one that killed the Marvel comics books in the Disney era readers went away and never came back on the big screen is even worse to see and we still have the gay agenda, a lot of naked men and increasingly ugly women who look like trannies being hired and bad stories
Yes, manga totally dominate the American market today, kids teens and adults have stopped buying Marvel and DC, it is impossible to read anything they produce today
When did writers forget how to write compelling female characters?
Like I remember Raven and Starfire in the Teen Titans cartoons, to this day women my age tell me how much they loved them and how cool they thought they were. Terminator 2 took Sarah Connor from a helpless woman who needed Kyle Reese to save her from the robot to a legitimate badass focused on preparing her son to lead the resistance and it didn't feel forced, and more importantly it didn't feel like they stapled breasts onto a male character; the fact that she was a woman and a mother was integral to her character.
I just don't get it. If the idea is to get more women in media they are more than capable of doing it without pissing people off.
Because they come from the wrong ideological angle.
If you believe women aren't naturally heroes and depend upon men for their safety (the truth), then you can differentiate the female character ala Sarah Connor and make us believe in her transformation.
But if you believe women are le real heroes being held down by dumb patriarchal male oppressors, then you don't have to develop the female character, she just *is* smarter and more capable than the men, and acts like a resentful b***h for being le held down and oppressed.
Basically if you don't incorporate reality into your writing and start with ideology instead, it's automatically going to be shit.
Didn't DC almost go bankrupt a few years ago?
Wasn't DC Rebirth their hail-mary to avoid losing all of their IPs?
God can you imagine if Disney got their hands on Batman?
DC is owned by WB who is owned by Discovery Channel, they're aware that DC's IP are too valuable to be sold at the same time DC Comics isn't bringing in any money the best case scenario they'll shut down the comics division and outsource Batman to either Dark Horse or Image Comics
Lol
but seriously, why are superheroes especially kids ones political?
the few times classic superheroes were portrayed as political they were usually in the wrong, like Superman in Dark Knight Returns.
But now a heroic act is going to "vote democrat"? Seriously what in the actual frick, literal mind rape for children.
The whole comic was creepy, it was released just before the 2016 elections and it was bassically one big political ad for Hildog, Ms.Marvel went around knocking on people doors doors telling them to vote.
>it was released just before the 2016 elections
It was the day after the voting was closed and I'll never forget that. I distinctly remember having a laugh at how pathetic it was that they were late on that issue.
>being a superhero is hitting the pavement and meeting people
Half of Gotham thinks Batman is a fricking legend, wtf does "meeting people" have to do with anything? How is she a "hero" she's just a political agent/walking ad campaign (in the context of the story).
Wtf.
Yes, manga totally dominate the American market today, kids teens and adults have stopped buying Marvel and DC, it is impossible to read anything they produce today
Marvel and DC comics started going full woke like a decade before Hollywood.
I'm in leafland and I went to local comic shop and half of the store dedicated to manga and the only comics and sells well are the older ones from more than two decades ago
Didn't she get breast reduction IRL? This inforgraphic is really dishonest.
Jesus fricking christ but Kat Dennings is insanely hot in any context though.
All that build up towards Thanos, all that direction, came and went after Endgame. Now it just feels like they're throwing shit at us and hoping something will stick
Well, if you're gonna be honest, the MCU untangled an ungodly mess in the comic lore to get an understandable story line across muiltiple movies. Now they faced the same issue, in that the comic lore is an ungodly mess that only got 1000000x worse over the last decade. The comics go in so many directions, it would be impossible to follow them.
I honestly don't think Feige knows what plot to follow, they don't have anyone who could craft one, like Favreau since he left for Lucas, and they're just seeing which way the wind blows.
They didn't care about any plot to follow. All they've been caring about is setting up females superheroes and now they've got frick all. Well, not frick all, they've got female superheroes. Good luck with that I guess.
>endgame is finished concluding a 20 something movie buildup >btw the story continues! Make sure you watch Wandavision so you can understand the Doctor Strange movie!
So fricking tiresome.
Post Endgame Feige took a step back to let his eventual successor Victoria Alonso take over. She's been the head of creative for this phase. Eternals has her finger prints all over it.
>Put a woman in charge who isn't a comic fan and knows nothing about the comics >She runs it into the ground and fricks everything up >Have to just sit back and applaud her or you hate all women and are sexist
First star wars and now marvel. This shit is disgusting.
They're focusing on D list characters now. End Game really did feel like the end and everything since has been meandering.
I don't count the two multiverse movies as successes for the MCU either. Spider-Man was so massive off the back of Sony movies work. MOM only got so much hype basically because of false advertising, and once people figured out what it really was, it fell off hard. Thor is the big litmus test for me, he's an OG Avenger and people loved Ragnarok. If it doesn't do well, MCU might be dead for real instead of meme dead.
This is unfortunately true.. Marvel saved cinema back in 2008-2012 and they came through with Spider-Man back in December once again saving the industry.
Marvel both saved and ruined cinema.. Double edged sword.
>Marvel saved cinema back in 2008-2012
???? How? If it never existed we might still be getting kinos. I like maybe a small handful of early MCU movies but I would sacrifice the whole franchise in a snap for one decent 85 minute soulful good movie.
The whole industry was on a downward spiral from 2000 to 2009. We would get some kino's here and there but the industry as a whole was weak and the movies were bad.
Sean William Scott was a leading man.
That era is packed with kino. Sean William Scoott? 2000-2010 was the era of Spider-Man, 2001-2009.
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Will Ferrell and the improv comedy was allowed to dominant the box office. Essentially killing all written comedies and over time producing some of the worst brand of humor in the history of comedy.
I'm not arguing that we got nothing.. All I'm saying is we got 85% garbage.
2002 - 2006 were some of the worst years.
I don't think you're aware at how much pressure Disney israelites put on theaters for their shitty capeshit. They dominate the market because they can because people are moronic pigs who want to be fed slop.
Their insistence of skipping decades of solid story potential just so they can try and prop up the same modern characters that already killed their comic market.
90% of the Marvel flicks are fricking boring. The OG movies from phase one got people hooked. They followed the same blueprint, but they played it safe, had good actors, nice visuals and good jokes. The Avengers was an absolute histeria, and it became what defined Marvel. It was the chain of solo movies and group movies which followed and underlying backstory, which culminated in the Infinity War, the sense of an epic saga that people wanted to follow through to see the ending.
And it ended. The coherency fell apart, we have half dozen series going on simultaneously, new movies every 3 months with a plethora of new characters but the same old type of boring story with the same old jokes and without the characters people grew to love.
> spent years assuring boomers on Cinemaphile that zoomers are not all bad even when I didn't believe it myself > when the world needed us most we finally delivered
Feels good to be vindicated.
well at the very least, the generation after the zoomers will hopefully react against you and hopefully swing the pendulum back. somebody needs to burn the forest down so it can regrow.
>Marvel promote Victoria Alonso to oversee all future MCU projects >far-left, femenist latino lesbian >dislikes the straight, white male characters >publicly said that Tony Stark in Iron Man 2 was sexist towards Black Widow >said that the name 'X-Men' is outdated becasue the team includes women >pushed for more LGBT representation after Endgame >said in interview that she loves America Chavez because she reminds her of her younger self >forced the cringy all female group scene into Endgame
Dude there's no point dissecting it, obviously "men" is a synonym for humans and always has been, words can have more than one meaning, but like ~~*leftists*~~ always do when they argue they completely ignore facts and reality when it's convenient to win an argument. Obviously the intent of the team name wasn't "X-Males" what a demented b***h.
It has become such a woke agenda vessel shitshow I hope it all bombs so hard. I'm not going to stick with them hoping it'll go back to the good days because by supporting them, it never will.
A lot of reviews are actually complaining that Natalie is basically relegated to love interest/ex-girlfriend role and not much else while Thor is here to stay. I'm honestly more optimistic about that now.
No one will reply to you because it goes against their narrative. Most of the anons here haven't even read the reviews let alone seen the movie.
What narrative? You creeps are on here defending this poorly cobbled together pedo church product and saying WE have a narrative? Lmfao look at yourself.
Seething at what? Your church's product is failing and no federal agents are forcing me to watch it Clockwork Orange style yet so I'm riding high. Keep coping though lol
Which is weird because before the trailer came out everyone was hype. Then the trailer came out and people were pretty excited.. THEN Doctor Strange came out and the interest for Thor seemed to plummet.
The closer we've got to Thor 4 release date the less and less people seem to be. This will be the first summer in a decade that isn't dominated by the MCU.
Tom Cruise killed the MCU.
>Captain America and Iron Man gone, one replaced with a woman the other soon to be replaced with another woman >Hulk can't have his own movies so he's backseating to a Disney+ show now >Thor is the sidekick to the guardians and to the girl he lost his vcard to >The ones that were supposed to replace them are either unlikeable or dead. Captain Marvel, Black Panther, Shang-Chi. >Doctor Strange can only carry you so far >Disney+ shows every 3-4 months with CGI budget in the shit, with no overarching story being build up >The last few MCU movies had mixed reception or downright bad. Eternals, Black Widow, Shang-Chi were lack luster. >Blew all their load with Endgame and squeezed out the drops with NWH and MoM >Now the got jackshit because they are holding off on F4 and X-Men >Meanwhile they keep throwing literal whos thinking we give a shit
They are really spreading themselves thin and covid literally imploded whatever plans they had.
the outrage youtubers have nothing to do with the destruction of these franchizes. They simply try to profit off of it because lots of people have negative feelings towards these once beloved franchizes and want their opinions confirmed.
it's not just the youtubers. there definitely is a trend of people being aggrieved and outraged over very unimportant things. youtubers are partly driving it, but people increasingly have very strong opinions about movies/videogames they've never played or watched.
Black Panther 2 is probably their last chance to salvage their success, it will get woke points and they're introducing Doom as the new big bad to string people along. If that flops, it's ogre.
100%, he's going to be the post-credits reveal and show back up for Fantastic 4 probably. I think they're betting on BP2 -> F4 -> big teamup movie, ft. Doom as the bad guy to try and regain some interest.
>The best thing that can be said about "Thor: Love and Thunder" is that as rough as the experience is, it's nowhere near as bad as "Thor: The Dark World."
At least it's not as bad as Dark World? Damn. That's rough.
lmao that talentless useless hook nose piece of shit kika waishiti never made a good movie and just apes Gunn's style but dials up the redditness by 100 and now even his reddit audience is shitting on it because it was this bad
Perhaps a focus, a spin-off movie even, for Tessa Thompson may be the answer? Surely her natural charisma and acting ability can save the current phase of MCU?
the batman was way too long but at least you can tell everyone making it cared. the same can't be said of marvel movies. why don't they even try? just the same jokes and action sequences then onto the next one.
>everyone making it cared
No they didn't. Wasn't it primarily about white guilt? And then there was that gliding suit webm. Lmfao all I need to know about this Garbo. I'll give you it's probably a masterpiece compared to any given Disney product though.
>Wasn't it primarily about white guilt? And then there was that gliding suit webm. > admitting outright that you uncritically get all of your opinions on media from Cinemaphile
gonna be a yikes from me.
Capeshit fans are some of the most unhealthy people to walk the earth. Intro of covid and the vaccine spells doom for that demographic. The culling has begun.
It's indisputable that pandering to those 3 groups destroyed the MCU. The MCU reached it's peak by promoting straight male leads. Spiderman is now singlehandedly keeping Marvel relevant.
The Batman. It's a pretty solid detective story that doesn't just have Batman magically deduce the solution by fifty leaps of autistic logic or whip out a can of bat shark repellant spray.
Doctor Strange 2 was just incoherent.
Nobody solves it, the riddler basically wins. Batman does damage control and keeps them from literally killing the mayor then claims victory.
Batman still did most of the legwork with Gordon helping him and that hispanic cop near the very end didn't "solve" it, he was making small talk and accidentally pointed Batman in the right direciton.
These idiots want to believe in this false idea agenda so badly they don't even have a contingency plan for when this shit inevitably doesn't work out their way. Cap Marvel should have been their canary lol
Well, I'm glad they've put some solid work into their next worthwhile cross-over. I see no reason this one will flop.
I'm excited to learn more about muslim culture, how white men are scum, and how women have zero flaws.
That now you need to watch a series about a dumb movie where its concepts are porly presented and the actors are mocked. Wanda could go to a universe where her chidren are motherless. she could clone them.
Will a lesbian kiss save phase 4? Maybe introducing another female superhero? What about blackwashing another character? I mean Tessa Thompson did great as Valkyrie right?
Alien nobody who lives on a shitty barran planet, prays to the gods to save his dying family, becomes filled with anger becasue his prayers were ignored and thinks Gods only help certain people, gets hold of a bad ass Necro-Sword that fricks everything up it hits, pledges to kill all Gods.
Thats the comic version anyway, which is actually a kino story.
Fun fact, every single disney+ show has flopped so far, it's over >https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=euphoria,mandalorian,loki,wandavision,Obi%20Wan%20Kenobi
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Oversaturation. Imagine making a movie called "Endgame" and then you keep making movies after that
This. Wnet to the kinoplex for every mcu capeshit from Iron man all the way to endgame (except for Dr strange). Checked out after endgame. The old guard is gone or dead and the new guys are either B or C tiers from the old guard or diversity hires you couldn't pay me to watch. still watching the Spiderman movies though.
Same. I swear the only phase 4 anything that was worth a damn was Spiderman: No way Home.
>says he checked out
>keeps watching capeshit
Final Fantasy gazillion begs to differ
final fantasy games, at best, came out every two years and at worst far more than that. MCU shit comes out every month
Regardless, the joke is that they appear to be very non-final in their fantasy
They are all final or do you think they're sequels?
People don't care if the series is called like FF, Dead or Alive or Final Destination.
Calling an entry Endgame or World Fantasy 8: The Final Fantasy is different and the problem
They aren't movies. We're talking about movies here fella
moron
Nobody played all Final Fantasy games. You can play FF12 without touching FF7 and then play FF2 before hooking yourself on FF14. You'd only miss the refmote references, but each can be appreciated by themselves.
Good fricking luck appreciating Multiverse of Madness or Thor Ragnarok if you've never watched any Marvel movies before. Even if you only watched Thor movies or Dr Strange movies, youd still not understand anything thats going on.
> youd still not understand anything thats going on.
ah yes. because the mcu is known for such deep lore. i haven't seen either of those movies, but i assume the good guys fight the bad guys and the good guys win.
The newest film requires viewing of at least 2 prior movies and a television show to be cohesive. With each additional entry that calls back to previous movies the amount of necessary content to consume increases. Your argument that the basic assumption of these movies holds true doesn't change that fact. You could watch Return of the King and still understand the basic gist of the plot without having watched the prior 2 films, that does not mean they aren't required viewing to fully appreciate the product (however good or bad it is).
Final fantasy is also a zombie franchise
Coincidentally, Final Fantasy as a series has also been going down the tubes for the past several years.
And the endless stream of Disney+ shows too.
They pump out so much garbage no one gives a frick about.
Anon, I...
The only good Jason film after that was Jason X, the only with psychic girl and vs jason.
It's own inherent structure and the controlling market share of Disney killing any incentive to compete in quality.
MCU GOES WOKE
GET BROKE
Endgame. Nothing compelling can happen after you defeat the big bad you've been building up for ten years and literally save the universe.
Of course you could introduce another big bad with proper buildup, but nothing like that is happening
Meh, people hated Man of Steel and I thought it was pretty amazing.
>proper buildup
kek, wouldn't that be nice?
Very accurate post. When she first showed up in things I liked her some but I soon realized she was a cog.
They're only now starting to plan the future long term
NOT SO FAST DKEK
PRAYER CIRCLE IS WORKING
lmao it's lower than Rise of Gru
Why is half of them wearing 3d glasses and half not?
I'm guessing the picture was taken during the previews. Not all movie previews are in 3D, but most people put their glasses on as soon as they sit down
Why go to a movie just to be on your phones. Just stay home. Not even attempting to look at the screen
>designated shitting aisles
good lord, it's nice living near farms and having a professional job. I haven't seen people like this since college.
All of them have had sex except for me
if i lived in america i guess i would shoot up movie theatres too
Look at that douchebag standing up. What a homosexual.
Kino
They all look as if to be cut from the same cloth. How are they so different yet surefire clones?
We live in a timeline where anime fans are more normal than mainstream pop culture movie fans
What a bunch of ugly dumb losers, wow.
Not one single clean shaved male. That should be your signal to shave daily
This phase is aimlessly meandering trash. Everyone movie/tv show is completely insignificant. Remember Lokis ending when everyone was like WOW THE MULTIVERSE IS STARTING HERE THIS IS GOING TO CHANGE THE WHOLE MCU. It’s never been mentioned again. It wasn’t even the cause of multiverse of madness. It was retconned already that it was Dr Stranges dumbass spell for Spider-Man. They can’t even connect the most basic shit anymore. Feels like none of the directors or creators are communicating with each other anymore. There is no cinematic universe anymore. Just throwing out bait to see if something catches popularity. If it does, they may bring it back. If it doesn’t it’ll be forgotten instantly and retconned by something else
The multiverse makes everything seem irrelevant, anyway. For every universe where avengers die, there is another where they live.
The Multiverse only seems irrelevant because they're handling the Multiverse like shit.
Doctor Strange completely half assed it.
Spider-Man was fun but felt like a set-up for Doctor Strange which, half assed it.
WandaVision was also a set up for Doctor Strange which, you guessed it, half assed it.
The only Multiverse story that seemed compelling was Loki. And they almost pretend it holds no weight on the overall story.
I believe in a few years we'll look back at Doctor Strange in The Multiverse of Madness as the first big frick up from Feige and his team. They oversold and under-delivered.
It baffles me that Sony knew how to handle the multiverse concept and nostalgia bait better than Disney/MCU and according to the leaks better than WB. Fricking Sony.
Which is insane considering the arsenal of characters Disney currently has. If Marvel Studios isn't currently playing a long set up for Secret Wars they're proper fricked. Nostalgia bait is hot right now and nothing would be bigger than a massive 2 part Secret Wars style Multiverse movie involving every Marvel movie character to ever exist.
From Wesley Snipes as Blade to James Marsden as Cyclops. I mean you bring back everyone.
Credit where credit is due.. Sony handled Far From Home like pros and gave people exactly what they wanted.
>Credit where credit is due.. Sony handled Far From Home like pros and gave people exactly what they wanted.
It started before that with Into The Spiderverse even.
>build up Illuminati
>PROFESSOR X MOTHERFRICKERS
>START OF FANTASTIC 4 IN THE MCU
>all killed off in 5 seconds as a bait and switch
Trash ass movie
I'm convinced that part of the movie was added during reshoots because people were expecting, ya know, a Multiverse..
Wasn't the Illuminati supposed to be like the big brains of the marvel universe? Why the frick was girl captain America, captain marvel, and blackbolt apart of it? Made zero sense.
Black Bolt was a part of it because of his status as king of his world, same with Namor. The other two were added in because we need women and representation. Which is fricking stupid but it's the MCU
The next Ant Man will frick the multiverse up even more. Just watch.
it seems every movie is setting up their own version of the multiverse because they knew that they wanted to do something with it, but nobody had a consistent reason why. So we have a spiderman one, a dr. strange one, a Loki one. And each of them are completely separate from each other and are not tied in any way.
>RT le bad....
>unless it's a somewhat low score on a capeshit flick
this shit needs to stop
RT isn't bad, it's the only good metric for gauging movies. Literally just Yes or No.
No one has ever cared about thor. Friendly reminder that back in the early 90s SONY was given an offer from Marvel to buy the film rights to alllll of thier characters for 50k. SONY lol'd and told them "no one gives a shit about anything that isnt Spider-Man"
They were not wrong then, and still are not wrong now.
Nobody cares about wacky nu male quippy Thor. They turned it into a reddit tier comedy. You know,what you think of when you think of thor
Ragnorok really was shit and I don't understand why people like it. It felt like it was trying too hard to be comedic.
I'm also really pissed off that we're not getting a Guardians/Thor movie, I was actually looking forward to watching Thor fly around in space and get into adventures.
When people think of Thor, they think of boredom.
>no one has ever cared about thor
Why say something so blatantly moronic
This movie will still make a shit load of money. People love Chris Hemsworth and it’s literally an event for people to go to a theater to see the new marvel flick
it'll make a billion but won't approach Tobeyverse
isn't this what you said about lightyear verbatim
>People love Chris Hemsworth
lol
Box movie poison
Hemsworth really is the most charismatic charisma void working
>People love Chris Hemsworth
Women, homosexuals and trannies love Hemsworth. Same as the GoT as Aquaman. It will sell tickets just because he makes panties moist.
But this, and Guardians 3, will be the last movies Hemsworth makes for Marvel.
It is likely this movie will do fairly well. I suspect it will make north of 600 million. But it is yet another worrying sign for Marvel, as it is possibly the last movie of yet another mainstay. After Hemsworth is gone, there will be few stars left to carry the franchise. Holland has expressed on more than one occasion that he wants to retire in his role, at that point you will have essentially Pratt to act as the face of the series with numerous new additions that have not been received well. If you have no Iron Man, no Cap, no Thor, no Spider-Man, no Ant Man, no Hulk, no Black Widow, no Scarlet Witch, what the frick do you have? All of the successors they have set up have been a total bust, can you imagine an Avengers with fem Thor, black Cap, the Wasp, Captain Marvel, and maybe Dr. Strange? Shit is going to suck dude.
Okay I know what to do. What we need is more quips. Especially jokes where a female character emasculates a male character. More diversity because come on it's 2022. Tessa Thompson as Valkyrie was a stroke of genius.
We need more female superheroes too. The men had their time. Did I mention more quips?
Not Taika btw
>woke era of the comics flops
>LETS ADAPT THOSE CHARACTERS/STORYLINES IN THE MCU NOW!
>flops again
Don't the comics exist *solely* so that they can hold on to the IPs?
As in some Disney exec hooks his friend's kid up with a writing job right out of art school because he'll work for cheap and they give absolutely zero shits about making money on comics?
Now, yes. Numbers that used to get your comic canceled before are now lauded as great successes. Comics in general have been fading over the years, that's why Demon Slayer alone mogged all over western comics and graphic novels.
red flag
>shits on the MCU
>comes back crawling when there is nothing else for her
lol
What might the RT score be if she once again placed her bespoke Porthole on-display for the viewing audiences' consideration and cinematic posterity?
i had a feeling this would be shit purely because people gave Thor: Ragnarok such high praise. that movie was mostly good because the previous two thor movies sucked ass so there were low expectations and we actually got a pretty fun and competent movie. now there are high expectations so of course they'd frick it up. Ragnarok was a fun side story with only three characters we knew going in fricking off to a place that is basically irrelevant to the broader story/MCU and have a little adventure. This movie, they're shoving so much shit in like Thor, natalie porman, that black girl, the guardians of the galaxy, the other little friends thor met in the last movie like the rock guy, probably loki, etc. just seems like a mess
>the previous two thor movies sucked ass so there were low expectations and we actually got a pretty fun and competent movie.
I never saw The Dark World but I legitimately liked the first Thor and thought it did a good job telling the story of Thor being forced to learn humility and humanity.
I didn't like Ragnarok, I felt like it was trying to hard to be funny and made Thor into a bit of an idiot. I also don't feel like Thor really learned anything or grew as a person.
Dark World was the weakest MCU movie when it was released. The plot is dumb, they kill off his mother for no reason, and then Loki is 'killed" and then somehow impersonating his father, with no explaination. You can fast forward through the Portman sequences, because they're irrelevant.
Then Thor for no good reason turns down the throne? Why? He didn't cause any events of the movie, and saved the day. And the whole 'dark elves" bullshit was the weakest antagonist ever.
Ragnarok is fun (at times), and goth death mommy Cate, even though it's too much of that butthole Ruffalo, and "yas qwayne" Thompson, and a phoned in performance by Goldblum. But it didn't suck as hard as Dark World did, so it's considered a "triumph" by the Feige asslickers. It's not the worst MCU, I'd put it in the "watchable, but not offensive or boring" middle of the list, above the Eternals and Shang Chink.
the biggest problem with Ragnarok is that it tells jokes during supposedly serious scenes, so you never feel that the stakes are actually ever high. critics are saying that this new movie basically does that even more.
>Joker was the last relevant capeshit and the only one in this whole nu-cape wave to win real awards
DC's turtle outrun Marvel's rabbit
actually it's Sonic 2
Disney flooding the market
Since Endgame every movie has become more woke and diverse. Not only that but they clearly have no plan and though that they could shove anything in there that people would eat it, same with Star Wars.
This. No plan, replacing legacy characters with diversity hires, telling me if I don't like it then it's not for me. Guess it's not for me.
>Guess it's not for me.
Pretty much this.
A friend of mine is a pretty liberal woman, type of person who would see a movie because it's great that it's diverse, and even she's tuning out of Marvel because they suck now. She outright said that she felt like Multiverse of Madness insulted her intelligence.
I've noticed that in general with women and minorities I speak to, is that the trend of forced diversity is insulting and patronizing to them.
This. They took the nu wars route, put a turbo feminist in charge who cares more about diversity and strong lesbians than making a coherent interesting story.
Tessa Goblin
god i fricking hate that b***h and i hate that she has a fricking acting career to begin with, fricking critic meatshield
Well shit and that's early shill reviews. Is that higher or lower than Eternals was at 100 reviews?
eternals started at 71
fanbase is all ESLs
>What killed the MCU?
Unironically Guardians of the Galaxy.
The MCU has always had quips and Guardians of the Galaxy is one of the best MCU movies that I agree with, but it seems like the MCU's takeaway from GOTG is that they should just go completely wild with the comedic tones and not put as much effort into the writing as they should. Look at how they "fixed" Thor movies, they just turned them into knockoff GOTG movies. Ragnarok's success dealt the second blow, and it all resulted in Love and Thunder.
somehow I think RLM will say it's good
Jay will talk shit about it the entire review and then say he liked it at the end. Mike will be a fat moronic manbaby who can't stop talking about Star Trek for 2 fricking minutes I hate that ape looking frick so much I wish Rich Evan's would smother him with his hairy dumper.
Social Justice and its toxic, cognitively dissonant culture or religion that comes with it. It has made movies, games and other world escaping activities unappealing and preachy.
Niice
Reminder after captain marvel, captain america was relegated to a pre-hero that was forgotten by humans and then reused when they needed to form the avengers.
Before that woke shitfest he was the original hero, now he's a joke.
You could have erased captain america from history and things would have been the same, as the avengers initiative kickstarted because of denvers only.
SOON
>It's trash
Called it
MCU is in a positive feedback loop where they keep making the same cheap comedy crap because that’s what the average fan wants and expects. Why take a creative risk like Joker when you already have a winning formula?
Unironically not woke enough. There are no white people in America so why do they keep making movies with white protagonists that are doomed to fail? They should have learned their lesson from Black Panther. Americans can't relate to white people.
I remember reading the god butcher comics in a Cinemaphile storytime thread many years ago and it was some of the most badass and darkest marvel comics I had ever read. Why did they take that story of things and turn it into some weird ass comedy?
Damn, kinda want to reread it now, but it would just hurt knowing what could have been.
This is one of my gripes with the MCU. None of the heroes really feel cool or have badass moments anymore like they do in the comics. They all feel like idiot buffoons who just quip.
Damn, the og Iron Man was a legitimately good film.
That whole scene where he destroyed the tank and kicked those terrorists' asses felt just like early 2000s ultimate Marvel. You could tell it was nerds making a movie for other nerds.
Now it's just committees appealing to the lowest common denominator and China in an attempt to make the most money.
It hasn't been about money for a long time shithead.
imagine thinking this
no of course it's not for the money
they just love making homosexuals happy
get real
? They love destroying culture. When the frick has this been about money? They just keep making these bombs and then print more.
They get their monies from Blackrock in exchange for pushing social engineering narratives.
yeah the federal reserve, that's why Disney is putting lesbians in their movies.
Imagine defending corporate pedophiles and pretending they just want to earn an honest dollar!
Disney makes money based on their ESG score. They don't give a flying frick if no one goes to see these movies as long as they keep being cut checks by Larry Fink. That is why they will continue to endure these flops over and over and over again, and you'll continue to wonder why they do it.
That's because they don't really have to carry their own movies anymore. Even Spider-man had Doctor Strange and his special effects crew helping him out to paint over what a godawful swiss cheese plot NWH had.
Was Loki good? I genuinely enjoyed Hawkeye but my understanding is that D+ content is almost universally bad.
Eh, it was ok. Hiddleston carried it pretty much. It was the only D+ show that wasn't utter shit imo.
Loki is pretty good. The first couple of Wandavision episodes are also good - but it falls apart towards the end. Every other marvel show has been pretty bad though.
>Was Loki good?
It's the only D+ show I liked. Hiddleston carries it and he's got chemistry with Owen Wilson. It's honestly pretty comfy. The only thing that ruins it is that they turned Kang into a Black person.
If you turn off your brain, yes.
Loki is shit. They retcon the whole MCU for no reason, and this Loki is a "variant" who doesn't matter to the mainstream stories in the MCU. They just cashed in on the popularity of Hiddleston, but he's dead in the main timeline. The story itself is really fricking dumb. Hiddleston tries, but even his talent can't rise above the shit writing and directing.
They could have done a prequel to him, shown him torturing his brother as a teen or something, but that would have driven the budget through the roof getting the mainstream characters onto the show.
The Disney+ shows are VERY low budget, like the Lucas TV shows. They're not putting the same money into them like the movies, and they rarely have more than one or two big names in them.
Ruins the character, completely butchers everything about the multiverse, writers project their gay logic onto every character and female Loki was cringe. Carried by Tom and Wilson and the soundtrack was pretty good for a marvel show
>Was Loki good? I genuinely enjoyed Hawkeye but my understanding is that D+ content is almost universally bad.
I enjoyed it. Main plot goes a bit dumb at the end, but good acting all around, good cast, excellent cinematography and sound. Didn't watch Captain Fungus and haven't watched anything Marvel since Endgame. Well, besides Wanda, which was meh.
imagine being a hulkfan, even hawkeye got to shine more
>like they do in the comics
For the sake of your mental health, don't read a current comic. Especially Iron Man.
This is what pains me the most about this pos. Taika had to take my all time favourite Thor comic, and perhaps the only decent one to come out fairly recently, and turned it into his typical brand of woke snl humour.
Him, Trank and Trevorrow can frick off for all i care.
Source?
a Thor God of Thunder comic run from 2013. It was very well received by fans as far as modern comics go due to its great art and a really good story. For some reason in this new movie, they picked Gorr, the main villain from that story arc but apparently nothing else from it.
wait, if 'critic' dont like it, does that mean its good?
no, it just means they agree with you
It hasn’t gotten any better or any worse. You can only shit out the exact same product so many times before some people start getting bored. That said, there’s enough morons and teenagers that they won’t really see the material effects of this for a long time. These will still continue to make loads of money cause they’re the only movies that do.
Zoomers hate anything campy or sovful, they should have stuck to copy paste shlock
ragnarok got 90 something%
...how is corporate Disney product written by algorithms and entirely CG sovlful...?
Marvel being based again. Critics unironically want the FemThor to replace the Straight White Man... so the ending pissed them off.
When s2 of this shit?
The lack of new interesting characters and old characters retiring, now add pozzed shit, no big plot between movies and shit shows and you get MCU phase 4
Going noticeably more woke is what killed it. A shitty movie like Ironman 3 is something you'd probably never watch agian, but atleast it was harmless. This phase has some hostility to it, like it thinks it's better than you.
I can’t think of any MCU movie I watched more than once. They’re good at keeping your attention as you watch it but they’re so forgettable after the fact and incompetently made that they’re not worth revisiting. Not a single one.
>What killed the MCU?
Lack of sexy ladies, the same one that killed the Marvel comics books in the Disney era readers went away and never came back on the big screen is even worse to see and we still have the gay agenda, a lot of naked men and increasingly ugly women who look like trannies being hired and bad stories
are marvel comics actually doing poorly?
what's the latest succesful marvel comic you heard about?.......
thanks
Yes, manga totally dominate the American market today, kids teens and adults have stopped buying Marvel and DC, it is impossible to read anything they produce today
>kids teens and adults have stopped buying Marvel and DC
Sure is because they're bigots and no other reason
When did writers forget how to write compelling female characters?
Like I remember Raven and Starfire in the Teen Titans cartoons, to this day women my age tell me how much they loved them and how cool they thought they were. Terminator 2 took Sarah Connor from a helpless woman who needed Kyle Reese to save her from the robot to a legitimate badass focused on preparing her son to lead the resistance and it didn't feel forced, and more importantly it didn't feel like they stapled breasts onto a male character; the fact that she was a woman and a mother was integral to her character.
I just don't get it. If the idea is to get more women in media they are more than capable of doing it without pissing people off.
Because they come from the wrong ideological angle.
If you believe women aren't naturally heroes and depend upon men for their safety (the truth), then you can differentiate the female character ala Sarah Connor and make us believe in her transformation.
But if you believe women are le real heroes being held down by dumb patriarchal male oppressors, then you don't have to develop the female character, she just *is* smarter and more capable than the men, and acts like a resentful b***h for being le held down and oppressed.
Basically if you don't incorporate reality into your writing and start with ideology instead, it's automatically going to be shit.
You think pic related is bad? DC Comics is dropping out of San Diego Comic Con for the first time in years
Didn't DC almost go bankrupt a few years ago?
Wasn't DC Rebirth their hail-mary to avoid losing all of their IPs?
God can you imagine if Disney got their hands on Batman?
DC is owned by WB who is owned by Discovery Channel, they're aware that DC's IP are too valuable to be sold at the same time DC Comics isn't bringing in any money the best case scenario they'll shut down the comics division and outsource Batman to either Dark Horse or Image Comics
Marvel and DC comics started going full woke like a decade before Hollywood.
They went mega super woke years ago and comic sales tanked horrendously. And marvel couldn't figure out why?
Their target demographic are left wing teens that don't read comics.
Unironically creepy. Wtf?
Creepy sure. But also idiotic because that comic book issue went on sale the day AFTER the 2016 elections were over lmao
Lol
but seriously, why are superheroes especially kids ones political?
the few times classic superheroes were portrayed as political they were usually in the wrong, like Superman in Dark Knight Returns.
But now a heroic act is going to "vote democrat"? Seriously what in the actual frick, literal mind rape for children.
The whole comic was creepy, it was released just before the 2016 elections and it was bassically one big political ad for Hildog, Ms.Marvel went around knocking on people doors doors telling them to vote.
>it was released just before the 2016 elections
It was the day after the voting was closed and I'll never forget that. I distinctly remember having a laugh at how pathetic it was that they were late on that issue.
I wonder when someone will throw acid on her face because she does not wear a hijab
>being a superhero is hitting the pavement and meeting people
Half of Gotham thinks Batman is a fricking legend, wtf does "meeting people" have to do with anything? How is she a "hero" she's just a political agent/walking ad campaign (in the context of the story).
Wtf.
Jesus
I'm in leafland and I went to local comic shop and half of the store dedicated to manga and the only comics and sells well are the older ones from more than two decades ago
wtf I love "D-Cup" Darcy now
Didn't she get breast reduction IRL? This inforgraphic is really dishonest.
Jesus fricking christ but Kat Dennings is insanely hot in any context though.
I just want Disney to fail. please tell me it's going to happen
All that build up towards Thanos, all that direction, came and went after Endgame. Now it just feels like they're throwing shit at us and hoping something will stick
Well, if you're gonna be honest, the MCU untangled an ungodly mess in the comic lore to get an understandable story line across muiltiple movies. Now they faced the same issue, in that the comic lore is an ungodly mess that only got 1000000x worse over the last decade. The comics go in so many directions, it would be impossible to follow them.
I honestly don't think Feige knows what plot to follow, they don't have anyone who could craft one, like Favreau since he left for Lucas, and they're just seeing which way the wind blows.
They didn't care about any plot to follow. All they've been caring about is setting up females superheroes and now they've got frick all. Well, not frick all, they've got female superheroes. Good luck with that I guess.
People got a taste of capekino and capetrash doesn't cut it anymore
Is anyone here even watching Ms Marvel? Years ago I would have watched anything and everything that was MCU now I can’t even be bothered.
>endgame is finished concluding a 20 something movie buildup
>btw the story continues! Make sure you watch Wandavision so you can understand the Doctor Strange movie!
So fricking tiresome.
Imagine a virgin incel Marvelgay going and seeing a movie about Thor. You're literally watching "the further adventures of Chad"
FRICK CAPESHIT
FRICK CAPESHIT
Frick capeshit
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Post Endgame Feige took a step back to let his eventual successor Victoria Alonso take over. She's been the head of creative for this phase. Eternals has her finger prints all over it.
Another franchise ruined by a woman? How surprising
>Put a woman in charge who isn't a comic fan and knows nothing about the comics
>She runs it into the ground and fricks everything up
>Have to just sit back and applaud her or you hate all women and are sexist
First star wars and now marvel. This shit is disgusting.
homosexuals
Corona virus and "wokeness"
Nothing. It was always shit
IT FEEL.
THIS IS NOT A DRILL. CAPE SHIT IS FINALLY DEAD
They're focusing on D list characters now. End Game really did feel like the end and everything since has been meandering.
I don't count the two multiverse movies as successes for the MCU either. Spider-Man was so massive off the back of Sony movies work. MOM only got so much hype basically because of false advertising, and once people figured out what it really was, it fell off hard. Thor is the big litmus test for me, he's an OG Avenger and people loved Ragnarok. If it doesn't do well, MCU might be dead for real instead of meme dead.
One Marvel dies cinema is over
This is unfortunately true.. Marvel saved cinema back in 2008-2012 and they came through with Spider-Man back in December once again saving the industry.
Marvel both saved and ruined cinema.. Double edged sword.
>Marvel saved cinema back in 2008-2012
???? How? If it never existed we might still be getting kinos. I like maybe a small handful of early MCU movies but I would sacrifice the whole franchise in a snap for one decent 85 minute soulful good movie.
The whole industry was on a downward spiral from 2000 to 2009. We would get some kino's here and there but the industry as a whole was weak and the movies were bad.
Sean William Scott was a leading man.
That era is packed with kino. Sean William Scoott? 2000-2010 was the era of Spider-Man, 2001-2009.
For example.
Will Ferrell and the improv comedy was allowed to dominant the box office. Essentially killing all written comedies and over time producing some of the worst brand of humor in the history of comedy.
I'm not arguing that we got nothing.. All I'm saying is we got 85% garbage.
2002 - 2006 were some of the worst years.
I don't think you're aware at how much pressure Disney israelites put on theaters for their shitty capeshit. They dominate the market because they can because people are moronic pigs who want to be fed slop.
Top gun did a billion and minions probably will too
More like, cinema will be resurrected
cuz the movies suck now
Their insistence of skipping decades of solid story potential just so they can try and prop up the same modern characters that already killed their comic market.
90% of the Marvel flicks are fricking boring. The OG movies from phase one got people hooked. They followed the same blueprint, but they played it safe, had good actors, nice visuals and good jokes. The Avengers was an absolute histeria, and it became what defined Marvel. It was the chain of solo movies and group movies which followed and underlying backstory, which culminated in the Infinity War, the sense of an epic saga that people wanted to follow through to see the ending.
And it ended. The coherency fell apart, we have half dozen series going on simultaneously, new movies every 3 months with a plethora of new characters but the same old type of boring story with the same old jokes and without the characters people grew to love.
Dang. Preddy gud tbh.
How moronic do you have to be in charge of this shit worth billions and not know why you were successful itfp? It will never make sense to me.
AHAHAHAHAHA
zoomerCHADS I KNEEL
> spent years assuring boomers on Cinemaphile that zoomers are not all bad even when I didn't believe it myself
> when the world needed us most we finally delivered
Feels good to be vindicated.
ehh don't get wienery, zoomers are still fricked up
Don't worry, gramps. We'll do you proud.
well at the very least, the generation after the zoomers will hopefully react against you and hopefully swing the pendulum back. somebody needs to burn the forest down so it can regrow.
oops used hopefully twice
>Implying anything other than zoomy culture needs to be razed
This lack of self awareness is a constant with your ilk and does not seed hope.
JUST
>Marvel promote Victoria Alonso to oversee all future MCU projects
>far-left, femenist latino lesbian
>dislikes the straight, white male characters
>publicly said that Tony Stark in Iron Man 2 was sexist towards Black Widow
>said that the name 'X-Men' is outdated becasue the team includes women
>pushed for more LGBT representation after Endgame
>said in interview that she loves America Chavez because she reminds her of her younger self
>forced the cringy all female group scene into Endgame
>said that the name 'X-Men' is outdated becasue the team includes women
>X-Men
>is outdated because the team includes women
>includes women
>women
>woMEN
Is she really this moronic?
Dude there's no point dissecting it, obviously "men" is a synonym for humans and always has been, words can have more than one meaning, but like ~~*leftists*~~ always do when they argue they completely ignore facts and reality when it's convenient to win an argument. Obviously the intent of the team name wasn't "X-Males" what a demented b***h.
I hope the reboot will be called X-People just for the lulz
It has become such a woke agenda vessel shitshow I hope it all bombs so hard. I'm not going to stick with them hoping it'll go back to the good days because by supporting them, it never will.
MCU is dead to me.
There's rumors that the working title for the X-Men's debut will be called 'The Mutants'.
lmao imagine having one of the biggest brand names in the history of film and pop culture and you decide to change it over your woke politics.
Nothing sounds more uninspired than 'The Mutants'
Wow that retro font I love the times from before the current times
We don't have to imagine. We watched Kathleen Kennedy do it to Star Wars.
Your childhood? Doesn't belong to you anymore. They ripped it out of your arms to give it to a black troony.
And you just know she got her position solely on being a screeching lesbian who everyone has to walk on eggshells around or she screams bigotry.
why she look like she got pic related
Thor was never an idiot
A lot of reviews are actually complaining that Natalie is basically relegated to love interest/ex-girlfriend role and not much else while Thor is here to stay. I'm honestly more optimistic about that now.
No one will reply to you because it goes against their narrative. Most of the anons here haven't even read the reviews let alone seen the movie.
What narrative? You creeps are on here defending this poorly cobbled together pedo church product and saying WE have a narrative? Lmfao look at yourself.
>seething this badly over something you won't even watch
More like lmaoing at your life
Seething at what? Your church's product is failing and no federal agents are forcing me to watch it Clockwork Orange style yet so I'm riding high. Keep coping though lol
>Your church's product is failing and no federal agents are forcing me to watch it Clockwork Orange style
Fricking kek. Did you have a stroke? roflmao
The Church of Trans Kids is fooling less and less people with their creepy corporate product by the day.
It's over.
Pandering to trannies, cucks, mutts and homosexuals.
It's still going to make a billion
It's pretty anticipated
significantly less than Doctor Strange 2
the hype isn't even there
Which is weird because before the trailer came out everyone was hype. Then the trailer came out and people were pretty excited.. THEN Doctor Strange came out and the interest for Thor seemed to plummet.
The closer we've got to Thor 4 release date the less and less people seem to be. This will be the first summer in a decade that isn't dominated by the MCU.
Tom Cruise killed the MCU.
>Captain America and Iron Man gone, one replaced with a woman the other soon to be replaced with another woman
>Hulk can't have his own movies so he's backseating to a Disney+ show now
>Thor is the sidekick to the guardians and to the girl he lost his vcard to
>The ones that were supposed to replace them are either unlikeable or dead. Captain Marvel, Black Panther, Shang-Chi.
>Doctor Strange can only carry you so far
>Disney+ shows every 3-4 months with CGI budget in the shit, with no overarching story being build up
>The last few MCU movies had mixed reception or downright bad. Eternals, Black Widow, Shang-Chi were lack luster.
>Blew all their load with Endgame and squeezed out the drops with NWH and MoM
>Now the got jackshit because they are holding off on F4 and X-Men
>Meanwhile they keep throwing literal whos thinking we give a shit
They are really spreading themselves thin and covid literally imploded whatever plans they had.
The outrage youtubers, now they will move to kill more fun things for a quick profit, like the literal parasites they are
> critical pleb killed capeshit
ok Scotland can have its independence as a reward
the outrage youtubers have nothing to do with the destruction of these franchizes. They simply try to profit off of it because lots of people have negative feelings towards these once beloved franchizes and want their opinions confirmed.
it's not just the youtubers. there definitely is a trend of people being aggrieved and outraged over very unimportant things. youtubers are partly driving it, but people increasingly have very strong opinions about movies/videogames they've never played or watched.
They have negative feelings because the youtubers told them to feel thay way
HAVE NO FEARS, WE'VE GOT STORIES FOR YEARS
Black Panther 2 is probably their last chance to salvage their success, it will get woke points and they're introducing Doom as the new big bad to string people along. If that flops, it's ogre.
What are the chances that Doom doesn't die in that movie?
100%, he's going to be the post-credits reveal and show back up for Fantastic 4 probably. I think they're betting on BP2 -> F4 -> big teamup movie, ft. Doom as the bad guy to try and regain some interest.
woke bullshit, same formula in all his movies and egocentricity
of course it's a Sony movie.
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Heh, one of those reviews.
>The best thing that can be said about "Thor: Love and Thunder" is that as rough as the experience is, it's nowhere near as bad as "Thor: The Dark World."
At least it's not as bad as Dark World? Damn. That's rough.
The MCU made $25 billion in 15 years. This will never again be replicated.
how many Avatar movies are coming out in the next 15 years?
>The Batman sits comfortably as the best reviewed capekino this year.
holy based
> btm
> bat to man
Marvelbros... how do we counter this?
King fly on a pile of shit whooptie doo.
Time travel and stupid multiverse shenanigans. It's just lazy writing.
lmao that talentless useless hook nose piece of shit kika waishiti never made a good movie and just apes Gunn's style but dials up the redditness by 100 and now even his reddit audience is shitting on it because it was this bad
>Marvel film below 90%
Good grief, this must be unwatchable.
Perhaps a focus, a spin-off movie even, for Tessa Thompson may be the answer? Surely her natural charisma and acting ability can save the current phase of MCU?
Frick this film, instead read the Simonson Thor run, widely regarded as one of the best comics book runs ever made. Fricking kino storytelling.
the batman was way too long but at least you can tell everyone making it cared. the same can't be said of marvel movies. why don't they even try? just the same jokes and action sequences then onto the next one.
>everyone making it cared
No they didn't. Wasn't it primarily about white guilt? And then there was that gliding suit webm. Lmfao all I need to know about this Garbo. I'll give you it's probably a masterpiece compared to any given Disney product though.
>Wasn't it primarily about white guilt? And then there was that gliding suit webm.
> admitting outright that you uncritically get all of your opinions on media from Cinemaphile
gonna be a yikes from me.
>noooo you have to watch this heap of shit to be properly informed on the product!
nope lmao
You don't need to go see it but maybe skim its tvtropes page before telling people it's not worth seeing.
>skim its tvtropes
Wtf is that? I will do no such thing. I saw the racist scenes/dialogue. That's enough for me. KYS.
Okay bro it sounds like you're having a bad day, I'll leave you alone. Nice trips.
Capeshit fans are some of the most unhealthy people to walk the earth. Intro of covid and the vaccine spells doom for that demographic. The culling has begun.
Does this movie even teased Beta Ray Bill?
Not even a tiny hint, no.
>Women
>LGBT
>Black folk/Diversity
It's indisputable that pandering to those 3 groups destroyed the MCU. The MCU reached it's peak by promoting straight male leads. Spiderman is now singlehandedly keeping Marvel relevant.
>Spiderman is now singlehandedly keeping Marvel relevant.
> we lived long enough to see Marvel turn into Sony
Should I watch The Batman or Dr. Strange 2 tonight
Batman if you want to be bored
Dr Strange 2 if you want to be mad
The Batman. It's a pretty solid detective story that doesn't just have Batman magically deduce the solution by fifty leaps of autistic logic or whip out a can of bat shark repellant spray.
Doctor Strange 2 was just incoherent.
Aaaand Batman doesn't even solve the crime, the supporting Black folks do.
Nobody solves it, the riddler basically wins. Batman does damage control and keeps them from literally killing the mayor then claims victory.
Batman still did most of the legwork with Gordon helping him and that hispanic cop near the very end didn't "solve" it, he was making small talk and accidentally pointed Batman in the right direciton.
How could anyone watch something with such a gay concept? Le Cinemaphile men are coming to kill us? Lmfao
the most unrealistic part is not that Cinemaphileners are cheering the riddler on, but that they'd do anything irl.
Batman is the better movie, but it's not kino , despite what people have been telling you
The choice is basically "police are bad, and rich white men don't do anything" or sam raimi trying to do camp while being buttfricked by marvel/disney
Surely Ms. Marvel will be the one to carry phase 4 of the MCU right?
I think Riri Williams will carry the MCU going forward, after all she is smarter than Tony Stark.
she didn't get the vaccine, so that sounds about right
Women and politics
Don't worry I'm sure this shit will be a box office smash.
Kamala a cute though. Might torrent Ms Marvel just for her.
>Ms Marvel and Rambeau both got fat asses
>Brie be flat
At least they're trying to compensate
These idiots want to believe in this false idea agenda so badly they don't even have a contingency plan for when this shit inevitably doesn't work out their way. Cap Marvel should have been their canary lol
Well, I'm glad they've put some solid work into their next worthwhile cross-over. I see no reason this one will flop.
I'm excited to learn more about muslim culture, how white men are scum, and how women have zero flaws.
China begs to differ
That now you need to watch a series about a dumb movie where its concepts are porly presented and the actors are mocked. Wanda could go to a universe where her chidren are motherless. she could clone them.
Will a lesbian kiss save phase 4? Maybe introducing another female superhero? What about blackwashing another character? I mean Tessa Thompson did great as Valkyrie right?
brainlets finally catching on how dumb it is. took them a few years.
So can I get a tl;dr on what this new villain's motivation is
What part about Gorr the Democratic Elector of Representatives to Bring Sensible God Regulation to the Senate Floor don't you understand?
Alien nobody who lives on a shitty barran planet, prays to the gods to save his dying family, becomes filled with anger becasue his prayers were ignored and thinks Gods only help certain people, gets hold of a bad ass Necro-Sword that fricks everything up it hits, pledges to kill all Gods.
Thats the comic version anyway, which is actually a kino story.
Pumping out 3 movies a year.
It's gonna make over 1 billion.
>over 1 billion
Yeah. Over a billion monopoly dollars lol
Even Jeremy hates it lmao
>the ratings are lower than the black widow movie
Fun fact, every single disney+ show has flopped so far, it's over
>https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=euphoria,mandalorian,loki,wandavision,Obi%20Wan%20Kenobi
>phase 4 is literally the diversity and inclusion phase
>actually killing the mouse
Dr. Strange made a lot of money
is "super hero fatigue" the biggest fricking cope? Just make good movies
endgame. thank god