What lesson will Disney learn from the enormous failure of this movie?
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Keep asking Blackrock for more brrrr
This. Black Rock will give it to them.
>"Creators lost sight of what their No. 1 objective needed to be," Iger said at the DealBook Summit in New York on Wednesday. "We have to entertain first. It's not about messages."
>Iger said Disney's prioritization of messaging over storytelling peaked "while [he] was gone" in 2022, alluding to the 11 months he left his job as Disney's executive chairman. Iger had been in charge of "creative endeavors" in 2020 and 2021, even while Bob Chapek ran the company as CEO.
Interesting timing isn't it
They're starting to shift from ESG to other acronyms that aren't as publicly known.
This. Get the frick to work figuring them out. I don't pay you anons the big bucks to sit around and speculate. Get in the nitty gritty.
And the public will keep calling anti-white, anti-male, pride flag bullshit and destabilizing attacks on the economy disguised as protecting the environment "ESG". The public should never allow them to memory hole the term.
this homie says that same thing every year and nothing changes because the % of woke employees has reached critical (and terminal) mass
>the % of woke employees has reached critical (and terminal) mass
This. It's like that junji ito story where the cook's blood becomes 100% oil
Iger is lying, the thing is that some investors are trying to kick all the woke morons from the company, him included, ahd he has to say that to stay in charge.
Black Rock wants to influence. Disney as a respected brand is dead. Disney pushing any message will have the opposite effect
Blackrock's entire aim is to stir culture wars to distract the populace from the class war the rich are waging against the working classes.
Socialists get the bullet too. You're both cancer
>Socialists get the bullet too.
Sure, after they're done being useful idiots for Blackrock's masters.
No they wont, even Blackrock know ESG has been a failure and they're backing away from it.
It's been a massive success for Wall Street as it has completely distracted people and killed class consciousness. They lost some money but will gain far more now. A huge victory for Neo-Liberalism.
Blackrock's at war with some other israelites right now. Maybe another time.
Well according to Bob Iger this only failed because there weren't enough executives on set during filming. He's obviously lying and he knows that's a horse shit answer but that tells you everything you need to know about Disneys thought process. They are narcissists. They can't admit when they're wrong, they can't admit when something is failing and being rejected by the audience.
>Well according to Bob Iger this only failed because there weren't enough executives on set during filming.
Oh great more people who don't know jackshit about making movies saying people who know their stuff what to do and how to do it. I am sure that will solve all their problems.
It's not executives they need but bringing back the creative committee that kept everything together. Feige is a hack that made people believe they hindered creativity while in fact they prevented what happened in the last movies: directors making mistakes that ultimately cost a lot of money to be fixed.
Brie has the worst superhero pose I’ve ever seen
>ENTER
i would have liked a new song released by some popular band. It was really a fun movie, I blame the hate-bots.
Brie Larson has the pretties face, Iman Vellani has the nicest breasts, and Latoya Parris has the roundest butt. Would be dpic if they somehow formed a Super Captain Marvel or maybe they're saving that for a 3rd Captain Marvel movie.
>Iman Vellani has the nicest breasts
Post 'em.
let's not forget Hailee Stanfield's sexy legs and feet
>Hailee Stanfield's
Why is this everyone's name now
Promote Kathleen Kennedy
Promote Kevin Feige
Promote Jim Morris
>What lesson will Disney learn from the enormous failure of this movie?
None, they'll just triple down until everything is ash!!!FACT!!!
If they are already spending 500 millions in making a garbage movie why not just get good looking actors? Or at least actors that people like. Spend money on the actors for fricks sake.
If they paid an instagram model half of what they're paying some of these """stars""", it would be more money than she'd ever seen in her life.
All the money in the world won't fix things if the leadership is incompetent or corrupt. It can actually make things worse, like handing a drug addict a million dollars.
>How?
Mission creep.
A feeling that they can afford wasteful spending. On left wing activism in their movies, for example.
Hubris.
none, they have a suicidal terrorist mentality, they see failure just as another opportunity to try it again later, they will never admit they were wrong, even if the whole industry completely collapses, they will keep blaming something else
Either way this is a win-win for chuds like me. Either they continue pushing this slop and inevitably go bankrupt or they course correct and start making fun movies again (starring exclusively white male actors and hot female actresses). I'm good either way, we didnt need anything after Endgame
>What lesson will Disney learn from the enormous failure of this movie?
NOTHING because Shitsney is run by activist women.
That Brie Larson has no star power and is not a draw and will most likely never work with her ever again after her Marvel contract is done.
They will never stop. Its literally impossible for companies like Disney to feel repercussions from obvious failure or to go bankrupt. More money will just be printed and thrown in their direction.
0. Executives are scared shitless,to turn away bad ideas from Black folk and women.
>0. Executives are scared shitless,to turn away bad ideas from Black folk and women.
Chapek tried, he said at the beginning that Disney would stay neutral on political issues, but he got forced into it anyway because Igers board was pushing for it and all the new people Disney hired are all about the diversity and inclusion. And then we saw him grovel infront of his own employees on that video conference. At that moment I knew Chapek was not going to be CEO for long.
This is very true, and in every business too. I work at a surgery center for a private doctor group, one of the worst doctors, by far, is a black woman. She’s awful, but she can’t be fired and the doctors have straight up admitted to some of the staff they’re close friends with that they’re afraid to fire her because they think she’ll sue them. People are afraid to give women and minorities consequences and discipline. They can get away with subpar, and sometimes dangerous, work as a result because companies are more afraid of discrimination lawsuits than malpractice and other lawsuits. This doctor is unsurprisingly into social justice issues, it’s like she knows she’s terrible and gets into social justice as a defense/threat to let the partners know that if she is fired she will sue. And that’s also why all of the talentless hack diversity hires in Hollywood are so into social justice issues. Never go to a female and/or non-white/asian doctor and why I only go to white men for all services.
>ERM, I'm not FRICKING sure! Maybe we need MORE diversity! The problem was that there was one white woman and not three multiracial women!
>the female centric Young Avengers movie will go from theatrical to D+ if it's even made at all
>the rumored FF movie where Invisible Woman is the lead will get a rewrite
>shows like Agatha and Echo will not get made again
However, the next Star Wars movie will star Daisy Ridley, Ella Balinska and a plucky brown teenage girl
They need to do 7 different remakes of the rocky horror picture show.
If they were smart they'd take a line from their counterparts in the East. One new Superheroine movie a month, full CGI w/ suit actors, and connecting miniseries on youtube to keep fans invested.
Top looks like Keisha Grey before she crashed into the wall at mach speed.
I'm amazed at how they were able to tone down Salma's gigantic milkers.
It's a fascinating phenomenon and something that deserves some study. We see two separate cultures in play here. Notice how in every picture on the left side, the women are making public appearances. They're dressing to be provocative, to be sexy. They're make a show of themselves, in a sense. It's the result of the second wave of the bra-burning feminism of the 1960s. On the right side, they're all performing as specific characters, but that role is determined by a man, a man who claims to have feminist interests at heart. Both sides claim to be feminist, and yet they conflict drastically.
>Both sides claim to be feminist, and yet they conflict drastically.
There is this divide between nuwave feminists and second wave feminism when it comes to sexuality, second wave was about expressing their sexuality, nuwave is about denying female sexuality because "Male gaze"
No, that’s just the nature of women/feminists. It’s not men making those women cover up, the women want to be covered up too. Women love to be the victims, they love to virtue signal. They want to pretend that Hollywood still has an issue with sexualizing and objectifying women, so they speak out against it. They demand to be covered up so they can be hailed as a strong, brave woman standing up to a sexist industry.
But at the same time society bawd shames women and invalidates sex work. Sex work is real work after all. So those same women, in a different context where the narrative is society shames women for being sexual, want to free the nipple and sexualize themselves because they’re strong independent women standing up to a sexist society.
The thing you need to understand is that women have no real beliefs, convictions, or thoughts. They are merely selfish, self-centered thinks. All they care about is raising their own social stock and being publicly applauded. Standing up to sexiest Hollywood will get them the most applause in one context, and showing off their bodies will get them the most applause and attention in another.
The men want to cover them in the right, because those same woman would cry to the public for sympathy and if they wore revealing clothing. Look at Scarlett Johansson, Elizabeth Olson, and Brie Larson and the comments they’ve made of you think it’s men making them cover up, men are only “making” them cover up because of the things those women said or would say.
>Haley's milkers
HNNNGGGGG
Female characters needs to be indistinguishable from strippers
>Switch to all-black, all-female directors, it's the only way!
I'm unironically sure of this. Every time a Democrat city goes to shit they elect black women. No reason for Disney to break pattern.
It failed because not enough troon prostitutes.
don't mess with chuds
It didn't fail though. Cope.
Such a confusing post. Even shills aren't trying to claim this piece of shit did well. What are you? Some alternate universe insane aslyum escapee?
This is what success looks like
$1million / 2200 theaters / $15 ticket / 4 screening a day
An average of ~8 people per screening for their peak day this week
Math is white supremacy. Decolonize science and education. The bridge that you cross every day will be just fine being managed by a witch doctor.
>It didn't fail though. Cope.
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Marvels-The-(2023)#tab=box-office
Marvels revenue:
$80m * .5 = $40m
$116m * .4 = $46.4m
So Disney made about $86m in revenue
Costs:
$220m production budget
$100m marketing budget (conservative)
So they spent $320m made $86m
Which is a loss of $234million.
That's one of the biggest bombs in history.
>So they spent $320m made $86m
Considering the shitshow behind the scenes, I'd its closer to half billie, if not more
Turn the movie into a meme to make it sell (Barbenheimer).
For one not make your posters look almost like a porn parody.
Not making The Marvels 2. That was what they did with Hulk
They have already concluded that there weren't enough producers on set, which basically means they think the director, writers and actors had too much freedom. So if thought this was bad, just wait for the future coroprate slop to appear.
1-diversity hires can't get the job done
2-you lose your core audience, you lose money and relevance
3-ESG/woke bs is a burden that audiences worldwide reject
>65% male audience
>Clearly we pandered too much to men on this one, next time we have to make it more female-centric
Put less white people in leading roles
The biggest lessons that they NEED to learn are that men and women are different and that you don't get to tell audiences what they're going to like.
Superheroes as a premise mostly appeal to men.
Men are more visual and introverted while women are more social. Women will go to male-oriented movies for social purposes. That's why aiming media at men prints money while it's fairly consistent across "scenes" (Hollywood, anime, etc.) that female audiences can only prop up like one hit once every 1-2 years.
Male protagonists are much safer for male-oriented movies. If the protagonist is going to be female, she had better be adorable and a knockout, and it's better to sex her up. Keep in mind that the only people who find wine aunts adorable are themselves. Men find them obnoxious and repulsive. Keep them off of the cast and the writing team.
You're right in many ways. Most women don't identify as a hero or even want to be a hero. Being a hero is a lot of work.
>Most women don't identify as a hero or even want to be a hero. Being a hero is a lot of work.
Being the princess, that gets saved by the hero is much better as she doesn't have to do anything else except wait for hero to save him.
>it's all the Chuds fault this movie failed
>we are going to double down even harder
>what do you mean with "we are out of money"?! YOU DAMN CHUUUUUDS!
No more white men in movies
non whatsoever
Male virgins put the MCU on the fricking map by blindlessly buying whatever slop they were producing.
How does Disney respond? "You're a fricking incel, we're gonna make movies for girls!"
Girls don't give a shit about capeshit, they're gonna need to pivot whether they like it or not. The customer is always right.
Also:
"OH LAWD DEM MARVELS!!"
Was this line truly necessary during the movie's climax?
Bob isn’t a bad CEO, he’s just too fearful. He doesn’t have the strength to fire Feige, Kennedy, Filoni, and whoever is running Pixar. He knows what needs to be done, he just doesn’t have the strength to do it.
Iger surrounded himself with yes men and made it his mission to decrease financial accountability in the arts. He lives to receive invitations to parties and stroke his ego. He tried to frame Chapek as a fall guy (too weak to bring the hammer down my ass) and then got pissed when he started acting independently. Iger is the person most responsible for modern Disney and one of the most responsible for the current state of entertainment. Not only is he terrible, as far as Disney is concerned, he's the head of the snake. This isn't like Dan DiDio and Gail Simone or whatever.
Actually, I'm going to take this a step further. It's easy to forget with what's happening right now, but it was just a couple of years ago that Bob Iger was put on a pedestal by the business world as a whole. The types of people who are causing all of our problems saw him as their idol. If you were to make a top twenty list of the people most responsible for modern business culture, you'd be insane to not put Iger on that list. I'd say that if the list is only CEOs of non-finance companies, he takes the #1 spot.
There's nothing wrong with Disney putting in more female leads, diversity, whatever. The reason fans are pissed is that they're putting in female leads WHILE MARGINALIZING THE ESTABLISHED MALE CHARACTERS
Thor a literal God who's been around for thousands of years is suddenly a fricking idiot and Padme Thor is automatically better than him at everything?? lmao
Dr. Strange got cucked by Wanda in his own fricking movie? They gonna learn a lesson MFers
>Dr. Strange got cucked
THREE TIMES. First by Wong. Then by Wanda. Then by Christine.
It's not about making money. There is no lesson. Movies aren't going to get good, you'll just complain but consoom until you like it and forget what good movies can be
Chuds are racist and all actors must pledge allegiance to isreal
>the adventures of black, fat, and b***h
what were they thinking?
If the more successful Lightyear cost a bunch of jobs, will anyone be fired over this? I doubt it.
This picture should be obligatory in every one of these threads
it's fake though
Nothing.
marvelsisters...
https://comicbook.com/marvel/news/the-marvels-lowest-grossing-mcu-movie-disney-stop-reporting-grosses/
kek yidsney will now stop reporting film grosses because of how badly bre and her band of immigrants were BTFO. this is like that fat c**t amy shumer and netflicks removing the dislike feature
more female ensemble movies
Every single one of them bombed hard kek
If you're going to do a female ensemble cast for an action movie, it needs to be pure fetish material and not care about being grounded. Stick 11/10s in bikini armor and have them swing swords and throw fireballs at other 11/10s in bikini armor.
No wine aunts on the writing staff or cast and none of THE MESSAGE, but that just needs to be a new rule unless the audience most likely to pay you is wine aunts.
you really only need to make it with a smaller budget
Marvel doesn't have any female led stories in their comics. Not even one decent adaptable story.
The 355 was a massive flop too
You're right but no one remembers that movie, not even the people who made it.
Ironic that if birds of prey leaned more into being a bawd and revealing film, it would have been a success. Every girl wanted to be 2016 harley for halloween cause she was a sex icon and they immediately covered her up
Can any Cinemaphilebros key me in? Is it still worth shorting?
stop forcing Captain Marvel in stuff. Just introduce Rogue to write her off and focus on better characters
Rogue is a supporting character who wouldn't be able to carry a movie.
He's saying that rogue should be introduced to steal Carol's powers so marvel can stop making movies with brie larson.
The x men can barely carry a movie
>"hurr durr we need to bring back iron man because iron man made money before"
Happy?
Trust the chuds
nothing
Is that a real promotional picture for the movie? It looks like direct to dvd movie from the 2000s.
Means we'll be only getting male-led MCU movies going forward.
Marvel's superheroines are all generic and inferior to DC's, anyhow.
Don't tie movies to shows people haven't watched.
I seriously can't tell the difference between Brie Larson and Amber Heard, help
You know whats weird. I used to think Amber Heard was hot until i found out she shat on Johnny Depp's bed. For whatever reason psychologically I cannot find her attractive anymore. Any time I think of her I picture her grotesquely swatting over his sheets and letting out a stink log. She's putrid to me now. Brie was always that way to me
>help
One has a pointy face the other is like a potato
MCU went to shit once they introduced spacecope. There's no stories anymore, no character development...it's all MULTIVERSE! SPACESHIPS! ALIENS! WORMHOLE!!
Enough with the bullshit, give me solid stories like Iron Man, Winter Soldier, Black Panther, etc.
Agreed. This was my forst thought when they announced the first GotG. You see all these different absurd alien races and advanced tech and think about how uttlerly useless the avengers are. Capt America would get his shit stomped in by the alien prisoner that wanted to rape Starlord. Starlord himself just casually has tech that dwarfs what tony spent so much time and effort making. Even in the comics the cosmic shit is just a slap in the face of Earthbound heroes imo.
Add more unlikable women and make them even less sexy
Name 3 likable women from comic book movies
larson the kinda chick that wanna get raped but cant in this b***h of a matriarchy so she sabotages everything she touches. if she was smart like a man she'd rape boys and make a heram but she could never dream of something more than petty bullshit
to double down. They won't learn anything. They believe that with the right amount of charts and committees they could make the next woke garbage a massive hit.
learn?
Didn't he literally say that because it was covid there were no executives on set every day to oversee every little detail
It flopped because Brie is ugly.
Nothing
That they should go back to being subtle about their subversions.
Tier list
Howard The Duck 1986
Guardians of the Galaxy 2014
Iron Man 2008
Spider-Man 2002
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2 2017
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3 2023
Blade 1998
Doctor Strange 2016
Avengers: Infinity War 2018
Avengers: Endgame 2019
Spider-Man 2 2004
Iron Man 2 2010
Spider-Man 3 2007
Spider-Man: No Way Home 2021
Deadpool 2016
Iron Man 3 2013
Logan 2017
Avengers: Age of Ultron 2015
Captain America: Civil War 2016
Captain America: The Winter Soldier 2014
The Avengers 2012
Deadpool 2 2018
X-Men 2000
Thor 2011
Spider-Man: Homecoming 2017
Captain America: The First Avenger 2011
Ant-Man 2015
Spider-Man: Far From Home 2019
Blade Trinity 2004
The Incredible Hulk 2008
Blade II 2002
Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness 2022
X-Men Origins: Wolverine 2009
Fantastic Four 2005
Dark Phoenix 2019
Thor: The Dark World 2013
X-Men: Days of Future Past 2014
Black Widow 2021
The Wolverine 2013
Venom: Let There Be Carnage 2021
X-Men: First Class 2011
Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer 2007
Venom 2018
X-Men: Apocalypse 2016
Daredevil 2003
Hulk 2003
X-Men: The Last Stand 2006
The Punisher 2004
Black Panther 2018
X2 2003
Ant-Man and the Wasp 2018
Punisher: War Zone 2008
Thor: Ragnarok 2017
The Amazing Spider-Man 2012
Thor: Love and Thunder 2022
Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania 2023
Ghost Rider 2007
The Amazing Spider-Man 2 2014
Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings 2021
Elektra 2005
Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance 2011
Fantastic Four 2015
Black Panther: Wakanda Forever 2022
Captain Marvel 2019
The Marvels 2023
Morbius 2022
Eternals 2021
>will Disney learn
Lmao
And hopefully none, they should stick to their guns and hopefully make an Avengers movie that grosses 300 million WW