what precisely is it about the writing that is bad?
every episode tries to give each character "trauma" to overcome but i don't care about any of it and i don't know why. nolan and mark was the only relationship i cared about.
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I can't believe they made such a song and dance about JK Simmons schedule for S2 and he's gonna be in 3 episodes for the entire thing.
Nolan pretty much disappears for a majority of the entire comic series until the very final storyarc. If you're expecting some kind of satisfying payoff or return to form, you will be disappointed
Oh yeah our rapemommy is here
she is one of the things keeping me interested right now, and i look forward to all the rule 34 i expect to see of her moving forward
>what precisely is it about the writing that is bad?
It insists upon itself
Did he get raped yet? I don't think people know how bad this show is really going to get.
>Did he get raped yet?
Metaphorically, yes, but the actual rape hadn't happened yet.
does she get her breasts out? answer me this is important
She gets completely naked
I feel like people only like this show only for its sensationalistic aspects and nothing else further than that.
S1 was legitimately good with a good villain, good mystery and Mark is a likeable MC. Also its refreshing to see comicbook media that actually plays it straight and isn't "lol look how dumb comicbooks are hehehehe"
S2 was just completely disjointed and lacked a real hook like S1 had with Nolan killing the Guardians. Also the relationship drama between Mark and Amber in the later half of the season really fricking sucked, its like the writers were punishing the audience for not liking their OC version of Amber so they drew out the inevitable breakup for as long as they could. Also nobody gives a frick about the gay guy and his boyfriend. The story just feels like its going absolutely nowhere as slow as it possibly can.
>going nowhere as slow as it possibly can
Things that have happened in S2 P2...A viltrumite had a brief conversation with Mark. That's it. That's all that has happened and it makes me sick. 20-30 miniute scenes of Le Sad Face is not content.
>good mystery
Idk if I'm just too quick but what was the mystery? We all saw him kill them in ep1, are you referring to the motive as the mystery? Didn't you realise the obvious eerie moments looking at Omniman stare blankly? I thought everyone just knew he was from an obviously not so good version of Krypton. Sure we don't know the details but that's never revealed until Omniman just tells Mark the full story.
>Mark is a likeable MC
Mark is still the MC...
>lacked a real hook like S1 had with Nolan killing the Guardians
That's because it was a genuine surprise. There's been great fight scenes which I guess you didn't like? There's not really any other great surprises in the comics btw, just moments where the ending isn't what you'd expect and turning points for certain characters. The few surprises are very short scenes that last a few seconds if they milk it.
>its like the writers were punishing the audience for not liking their OC version of Amber so they drew out the inevitable breakup for as long as they could
It felt more like damage control. They're trying to make her as likeable as possible now that they realised the only major complaint with season 1 was how annoying and unlikeable Amber was. Tbh compared to the comics it feels like they're cutting it short anyways.
>Also nobody gives a frick about the gay guy and his boyfriend
Well they're going to be taking up less and less screen time as the show progresses.
What? Sure there's a lot of build up going on but things still happened. I saw similar complaints with certain books that were mostly build up content, sure ASOS is boring compared to ACOK, and AFWC/ADWD feel quite boring and pointless but without them they climax of those arcs wouldn't feel as great. With Invincible there's the Invincible war which will you'd enjoy but only because the necessary build up done earlier on.
What else does it fricking offer, moron? The shows only offers gore and JK Simmons and that's it.
Don't tell me people are actually excited to hear Seth Rogen's disgusting voice or the "exciting" teen drama nobody gives a frick about?
The comic is like this too. There's all sorts of melodrama with Eve.
I don't get it. Can't she just atomically make the baby into an iPhone or something else women these days actually like?
Why did they make Anissa ugly? She was alright in the comics, specially during the rape.
humiliation ritual
Imagine the blowjobs
they dropped the ball
I simply won't get invested in a tv show that puts out 5 episodes every two years.
I just don't like the 10fps animation, that art style is also fricking terrible
OMG is that capeshit but with blood and gore and cursing and tackling confronting mature themes? Simply epic, I shall enjoy this with a glass of hoppy IPA and a bottle of Captain Beezlebutt's Anal Holocaust Hotsauce.
>NOOOOOOOOOO BIG TITTED AND SEXY TOMBOY DON'T RIDE MY wiener COWGIRL NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
wasn’t the rape supposed to happen after he got bodied by her this episode or is it inbound? haven’t read the graphic novels so im fuzzy on the timeline
The rape happens on their second meeting
If Cecil and everybody heard and saw everything from the first meeting, does this means that the same thing will happen when Mark gets raped?
they're doing that thing shitty shows do where they feel the need to stretch and pad the story. Then they jot down ideas for "character development", which usually is just some woke, culture war, timely political thing, and then they do a quick paint by numbers job of the actual writing at the last minute. it used to be like this too, but it's worse now.
i am completely making this up but am 100% convinced it's at least mostly true
I think its funny how they frick once then she's immediately pregnant. Like why do they have a population problem? If you can't outfrick a disease with that kind of fertility and interstellar travel you're not even trying.
There's a few dozen left. There's not enough genetic diversity amongst them. Earth was so important because humans are so genetically compatible that they'd be able to easily replenish their population in a heartbeat in Viltrumite years.
Mate the best you'll get is the kid floating but don't worry, he'll grow up fast.
She can't alter living creatures unless she hits her Avatar mode lol. That only happens when she's basically almost dead.
>Where you're basically just waiting for the important parts of the comics so that you could watch people's reactions to them. Everything else feels like filler.
But that's the pacing you get when you want to do all that build up ahead of time. Or you can do the anime thing and reveal a major plot point and have a 5 minute monologue explaining everything to the viewer once it's necessary for the plot. It's almost as if you guys are complaining every minute isn't a third act. Is there not enough action here for you?
the people you are responding to probably enjoy many stories where there is buildup and a payoff. there is obviously something specific to this story and its execution that people take issue with.
It just sounds like they're mad they're not getting any payoff now. The same people complained about GOT and Breaking Bad being boring until the payoff moments occurred. Amazon fricked up by splitting the season so it feels worse than ever.
Can you imagine if she pinned you down and sat on your wiener? I'd be scarred for life
is mark's little brother gonna have superpowers this season or will it be next season
I agree with you. The demographic that they're pandering to are twitter/tumblrite sensibilities where there's idea that it's objectively good to 1) constantly have your characters communicate their feels, 2) flesh out side characters because it's inherently good to do, right?
Both are done clumsily. For the first point, it's really unnatural imo - I don't think people talk like that. They're telling, not showing. It comes down to nonstop exposition. For the second point, it drags down the pacing immensely. I don't give a frick about Donald or his issues. Side characters don't need to be super developed or organic. They serve their use, and then should be put aside for utilitarian storytelling until they're useful to the narrative. Instead we're getting a lot of filler regarding characters who simply aren't important and are kind of lame. Like yeah, we get that you're traumatized from the cyborg experiment shit. Now lemme see Angstrom Levy and Mark lol
Oh, and the other key thing. The writing is too self aware. Characters all talk either like they're either on Reddit; trying to be funny nonstop, quirky, lecturey, smarmy, nothing's too serious, everything is an awkward joke etc. OR, they're doing these trauma dumps which are meant to be taken seriously.
Having natural dialogue with improve the series drastically in my opinion. It's the Seth Rogan thing - like the writing of the series is all through his filter somehow. I doubt he's involved with the writing but it all feels reminiscent of his brand of comedy.
It wouldn’t be as bad without all the forced diversity. Not great but still decent slop.
I talked about it in another thread the other day. The problem with the writing is scope. You have the main character, Mark, who is essentially a demigod. He is one of the few beings that can stand against a Viltrumite but he decides instead to whine and b***h about wanting to grow up normal and go to college, all the while wanting to lead an awesome life and have powers. That is a concept that is fine, it has been done before with characters like Peter Parker. The only issue here is that there is an immediate threat, a galactic/universe level threat that is ever present. So, when Mark whines about his relationship, about college, and whatever other teen drama he gets into then it comes off incredibly fricking stupid because he should focus on trying to save his planet, and the universe instead.
The writers want to have this interpersonal drama between these characters but you have, again, a fricking threat that threatens every living being on a cosmic level. Why are we focusing on Mark's mom?, Why the frick do we care about Immortal's relationship issues? If we didn't have the stupid multiverse, different timelines and cosmic level threat then those issues could be explored like they were in S1. It worked in the previous season because you cared about Nolan's family, Mark's friends and the gang of characters as Nolan's true intentions were about to unfolded. As soon as we hit S2, and now have the threat of the Viltrumite Empire, the focus should have shifted entirely towards Mark and the coalition of Planets trying to stop Viltrum.
This show has reached The Walking Dead levels of filler in Season fricking Two. Where you're basically just waiting for the important parts of the comics so that you could watch people's reactions to them. Everything else feels like filler.