What the actual frick is going on with Spider-Man? Are they seriously taking this cuck shit to the next level? Does Marvel hate their readerbase that fricking much?
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i don't read comics
no one here does, this is a cartoons board
i don't watch cartoons either
Then why are you here? To talk about box offices?
To get the backstory on the rule 34 I find.
no one here does, this is a live action adaptation superhero board
Speak for yourself. Not my fault only the old stuff is worth reading.
When’s the next Power Rangers video coming out Lewis?
It'll be out when I shay it'll be out. Shtop asking me about it.
It has NO. SET. SCHEDULE.
Neither does that writer, so you two have something in common.
Neither does anyone else, given American comic's abysmal sales.
Oh my gosh, it's priceless how hard these people are chasing the readership's rage bait dollars. I don't get how these people are still in business.
>Oh my gosh, it's priceless how hard these people are chasing the readership's rage bait dollars. I don't get how these people are still in business.
>the fans hate it but it's a good thing
This looks like a CBR article, do they really think they're going to make money out of clickbait trolling like this?
I wrote listicles for CBR for a bit, clickbait is literally the only way these sites make any money
They're not even chasing rage dollars anymore since that type of shit only works for a short time. Again, it's pure spite against the fans for not shutting up and accepting it.
It reminds me of 2013 when everyone thought Superior was gonna be permanent
Atleast superior had a good story. Now I want mj to die and Gwen to come back or something.
You're not fooling anyone gwenschizo
Yeah thinking about it. Even Gwen is wrong. If we bring Gwen back . Writers will try to cuck Peter again.
Oh I thought they were talking about the new Ultimate stuff, I would've thought that'd be funny as hell.
Either way, doesn't both me any- I simply won't read anything if Paul is in it, simple as.
There's like fricking 60 years of spider-man content to choose from, I'm sure I'll manage not reading any Paul-run until they just fricking drop it.
This is how I feel whenever something gay happens with the Batfamily. It's like oh, cool, I have an excuse to run through The Long Halloween or just be entertained with a bunch of non-canon events in Legends of the Dark Knight or anything else before current year.
These bullet points make it sound like MJ has ever been a main character. She is and always has been a supporting character for Peter Parker, and that's a good thing! Not every character needs to be a lead. You need some to revolve around the hero to showcase why that hero is important.
Anon this "article" was probably made by a mercenary or worse AI generated, assuming the entire thing isn't just a mock up by OP for (you)s
616 Spider-man is dead anyway. Ultimate Spider-man is where it's at.
Isn't Ultimate Spider-Man literally actually dead though?
New Ulitimate Spider-Man from universe 6160, you got to keep up. in this universe Peter is old and married with kids and gets his powers from teenage Iron Man.
>teenage Iron Man
He is a man on a mission
In armor of high tech ammunition
Trapped on the edge of an endless game
His teenage life will never be the same
In a dangerous world he does all he can
He's Iron Man
Iron Man
Man those were good times.
Shame we didn't get another season to see Mandarin's redemption arc.
>New Ulitimate Spider-Man from universe 6160, you got to keep up.
Who cares about this alternate universe though? It'll be dead in a year or so, just like all its superheroes including Spider-Man.
I care 🙂
He came back not long after he died.
Marvel didn't confirm anything lol. it's a rage bait article, stop giving it the clicks it wants.
This is clickbait, isn't it?
people who clickbait who deserve to die
>and that's a good thing
no that's actually moronic. don't even spend money on spider man comics
I can't give a frick about 616 Spidey anymore for the foreseeable future
Editorial hates the relationship because they want Peter to be a swingin' bachelor able to get with all of the pretty girls they never could instead of being tied down and "old." Also comic creators/editorials really hate it when fans are persistent on telling them what they don't like so they hate the marriage even more and are doing everythig they can to kill Peter and MJ as a couple in large part out of spite.
>Modern Marvel wants Spider-Man to get with ANY girl.
Who is the ridiculous one who wrote this?
More than caring about the legacy, they have no interest in the medium, the art and the appeal that gave rise to it long ago.
there needs to be a industry wide purge of these spiteful homosexuals
>because they want Peter to be a swingin' bachelor able to get with all of the pretty girls they never could
And what a monkey paw that turned out to be.
That's the problem though, Peter Parker ISN'T Tony Stark. Pete isn't a pump and dump kind of guy. So it all comes off as "Peter finally finds someone to love, but he fricking bungles it and she never wants anything to do with him anymore".
How long has it been since Anna Maria has talked to him?
What about Silk?
How long is it going to be before Felicia or even Hallows Eve shows back up? Or the two or three girls he was with since OMD?
This isn't "relatable" anymore; it's just fricking sad.
I love MJ as Jackpot.
Shes hotter than ever. And actually making a difference now.
Also she's learning all the struggles Peter had to go through now as a superhero.
Okay, Nick Lowe.
I’m not Nick Lowe, nor a paid shill.
Geez Peterbros, let MJ get some shine.
Stop being selfish buttholes.
Paulcancer is still cancer. I'm fine with reading about MJ. I'm not fine with Paul as a costar.
Maybe just don't try to force us to feel sorry for a creepy manbun guy who accidentally murdered billions.
op is this israelite, btw.
Child predator physiognomy
>Jackpot
HAHAHAHA THERES NO FRICKING WAY
EAT SHIT
At this point I stopped keeping up with Spider-Man. I check in when Doc Ock's involved and go 'Oh, Peter's a cuck now. There's this guy called Paul. MJ is a super hero.' Read the however many issues Doc Ock's involved in until he's defeated or fricks off somewhere, and completely drop Spider-Man from my mind.
I feel bad for Peter fans and MJ fans who can't have this luxury.
>I feel bad for Peter fans and MJ fans who can't have this luxury.
We just play the games and watch the movies, Slott.
>Superior Four
What the frick ever happened to the fallout of this. Otto and Ghostopus were supposed to go down to yell at Mephisto about why the former was suddenly losing his Spock memories, but that all just dropped off the map and the current Superior run just seems to be Slott brushing past everything as quick as possible so he can get back to writing Spider-Boy
Octopus Girl is the new canon. My mind refuses to be changed.
Shit, I can't believe I forgot about that. It's been two months since the last chapter I read.
just put MJ and Felicia together at this point. it'd be better than Paul
>there are still people voluntarily mousecucking themselves by caring about the doings of Peter Parker, Child-Murderer
lmao
lmfao
>artwork
I fricking miss Nuz like you wouldn't believe.
Reminder that Miles did the same thing to save Kamala by killing an innocent woman, and she still died and came back without the demon magic.
Bro, I swear if you're getting worked over a CBR article, you need to go have sex or something.
If you hate Amazing Spider-Man so much, stop reading it. Stop talking about it. Stop caring about it. Marvel loves the outrage discussions as it makes them feel Spider-Man is still popular in comics. Just move on to something actually worth your time.
>Marvel loves the outrage discussions as it makes them feel Spider-Man is still popular in comics
The problem for Marvel is, the outrage isn't translating into sales for ASM, just USM.
Who cares. Do you work for Marvel? Just let the book keep dying and buy the Good Spider-Man content. Promote the good stuff. At some point, someone with enough sway will realize how trash ASM has been and will let someone ACTUALLY write a decent book.
It doesn't bother me, but it is puzzling that they're committed to a strategy that is not working.
Idk if its just me but consideirng how niche comics are maybe they are afraid of being buried under social media algos & diminishing influence in an online community that has slowly risen up against them. They still have some ardent defenders but it seems to me like comic discussions will prob keep getting minimized till the niche becomes a super niche.
>Does Marvel hate their readerbase that fricking much?
Yes, just find a comfortable cut-off point, and refuse to acknowledge the existence of stuff printed past it.
what reader base?
This is a shill/advertisement thread. A israelite wrote this article and made this ragebait thread in order for you to go look up his article and read it.
>Mary Jane was in such a terrible situation! Her husband fought crime, which put them both in danger all the time, and she devolved into just being his emotional blanket to reaffirm that he should keep risking his life to fight crime. She wasn't her own character; just Peter's Significant Other
>But Paul is so much better! His wife fights crime, which put them both in danger all the time, but he steps up to be her emotional support to reaffirm that she should keep risking her life to fight crime. He such a simple and refreshing character; just MJ's Significant Other
>paid shill article
I wonder how much Spider-Office is spending on these content farms
imagine being this moron
He definitely looks like the kind of guy who posts Miles x Peni shipart.
Marvel editorial is REALLY dedicated to destroying Spider-Man's supporting cast.
I gotta admit, I love how "troony Gwen" thing mindbroke those homosexuals so hard that they shifted to Peni. It's hilarious as frick.
>243 articles in just under 2 years
What, is he pumping them out every 3 days? What could he possibly have to talk about?
It's AI-generated. That's a stock photo. CBR is literally just a webmaster making up stories by feeding information to ChatGPT.
He does have a twitter so it is a real person's face. The guy might be the one making up stories using an LLM though.
Why is anyone complaining? Pretty sure Cinemaphile prefers Spider/Cat so now there's nothing in the way aside from Felicia's body count.
Felicia doesn’t like him anymore.
It's so he can frick the much superior Black Cat, right?
She's back with her dyke gf. Peter turns into an unconfident 10 year old in front of her.
Just shut it down its over...
The amount of damage Wells has done to Peter Parker is unsurmountable, no other writer has written him this much out of character. Romita being at the nadir of his art doesn't help the run either.
that homosexual Zeb Wells needs to be blacklisted from the industry
>(AND THAT'S A GOOD THING)
lol fricking moron
It's them being commuted to Peter Parker selling their relationship to the devil
>A character who is a strong emotional anchor for someone is bad. Because the only thing that matters is how much butt you can kick!
>PETER PAY ATTENTION TO ME!!! WHO CARES IF THE WORLD EXPLODES!! I AM LEAVING YOU REEEEEEEEE
>UHHH SWEATY I HAVE TO GO BE A SUPER HEROINE PLEASE WATCH OUR IMAGINARY KIDS K? BYE
????
This feels like a lie. I'm going to take it as fake because no true fan would ever espouse this as truth.
It's a content farm clickbait made by
. You can probably guess how organic it is.
people who clickbait deserve to die
Nothing in the jackpot issue actually leans on that. And they've been trying to "kill" peter/mj for 15 years, its not worked yet kek. By enxt year they'll be back. Especially with USM getting so much goodwill from it
Also the jackpot book was ltiterally made by a writer that never read a single comic with mj by her own admission and just knew zeb kek
Either they wise up and realize that there's a huge demand for the relationship back, or they sit back and let Ultimate eat them alive. Either is fine with me.
I'm just so fricking tired of Marvel teasing Mary Jane and Peter getting back together. YOU WROTE A STORY WHERE HE BROUGHT IN THE FRICKING DEVIL TO ERASE HIS MARRIAGE FROM REALITY. THE RELATIONSHIP IS OVER. YOU CAN'T GET MORE BROKEN UP THAN ERASED FROM REALITY. ARE YOU REALLY GONNA TRY TO MAKE US GO 'HEY, MAYBE THESE KIDS ARE GONNA MAKE IT AFTER ALL' AFTER THAT?
They dated for 3 straight years before this run, its just BND gay writers that hate them lol
keep crying gwencuck
What was the exact moment when CBR became a parody of itself?
>inb4 always has been
It's tempting to just say always has been, but there's different stages.
>One More Day era
When Quesada got assmad at Newsarama posting JMS talking about the thought process for OMD which made Quesada look bad, so he moved everything over, and people like Slott and Wacker started getting into fights with people who didn't like the OMD/BND direction. In light of what happened with the Slott incident it wouldn't surprise me that the mods were covering for Marvel creators and shills who were breaking rules by attacking posters.
>Janelle Asselin incident
Janelle Asselin did an article shitting on some forgettable Teen Titans cover under the guise of performative moralism. Certain people on CBR forums get assmad and start harassing her. Then the forums got completely wiped. It never made sense because it could've been easier to just pick off the bad accounts rather than erasing everything. Crackpot theory that may end up being true: some if not most of those people who harassed her were probably comic industry people and they were worried about getting caught so the whole thing got wiped.
>2016 buyout
You could argue against the other two but this was basically the true end of CBR, because once it got bought it got hollowed out and turned into a clickbait farm. It got so bad that even comics industry people were calling it out at different times.
Once in a while someone will go rogue and do something crazy, like for instance there were people writing CBR articles starting to realize how shit the current direction of ASM was.
>there were people writing CBR articles starting to realize how shit the current direction of ASM was
Can I see one of those? That'd be a fun read.
https://www.cbr.com/zeb-wells-amazing-spiderman-mystery-box-pros-cons/
>Zeb Wells' Amazing Spider-Man Comics Use Mystery Box-Storytelling - But That's Not Always a Good Thing
There's some more but I can't remember them at the moment. But it was weird as hell last year to see a bunch of them show up on CBR. It was like they weren't getting their checks from Marvel anymore
Same guy also wrote this
https://www.cbr.com/how-spider-verse-hurt-spider-man-comics/
>How Spider-Verse Hurt Spider-Man Comics
>he makes some good poi-
>last point
>Spider-Verse Hurts Miles Morales
>Miles Morales is the star of the Spider-Verse movies, but he was just a part of the comic story. Miles Morales is beloved by Spider-Man fans, but there's a rather vocal contingent who hate him because of his ethnicity. Introducing a multiverse of white Peter Parkers and only one Miles may seem to make Miles special, but it actually just gives fuel to the people who say he's not really Spider-Man.
>Miles Morales is a massively important character, his success proving that long-term replacements of classic characters can find an audience. Spider-Verse was never really about him in the comics, though, which fueled the people who hate him. It hurt Miles more than it helped him.
That's the thing with CBR articles, sometimes it really is like that
I mean, there are a few spotty parts even before that.
>It's certainly a good story
Kek. Lmao even.
>his success proving that long-term replacements of classic characters can find an audience
There we definitely no long-term replacements of classic characters before Miles who managed equivalent success. That is a true statement.
Meanwhile the forums are at arms against wells and slobb, with the jannies there reporting people calling marvel writers out.
Same shit happening with batman right now.
I'd have her frick Batroc just to annoy the maximum number of people
maryshitygays can't stop getting BTFO.
Lol USM is the most popular comic in years lol. The exact opposite.
>Jackpot book doesn't even mention the kids
It's Ogre.
Most of that time when they say " and that's the good thing. " It's actually bad thing getting gaslighted.
Like monetary inflation!
Oh my god!!! The comics status quo is changing????? This has never happened before!!!! Comic writers have never, in decades, changed shit for the worse only for it to go right back to the way it was a couple of years later, every change in comics is forever and everything matters
It really is just them trying to have their cake and eat it too, huh.
>THIS IS THE BIGGEST MOST SHOCKING EVENT EVER. NOTHING WILL BE THE SAME AFTER THIS
>A-actually everything is back to normal...pls just buy the spiderman/batman books...
Some of the status quo change is welcomes. Like when Peter married MJ. or recently JJJ learning spiderman's secret identity.
Status Quo changes that develop characters are good, the ones that only exist to shit on characters are shit
Yes. Exactly. That's what I am talking about.
A this point Marvel has done so much shit to damage their relationship that would be very difficult to repair it even if they wanted to. The best thing they could do right now is just break them off completely, let Peter get over her and date someone else for a while (and no it doesn't have to be fricking Gwen back from the dead, it could be Felicia or Silk or fricking anyone really, even a brand new character). See how MJ gets by without having Peter chasing her ass (hint: nobody will care about her anymore and her book will be canceled). After like two years have passed you can reintroduce her to Peter's life and gradually try to rekindle the relationship, if people even still want it by that point.
Treat her like jealous ex after 2 years. While peter having new love of his life.
>Jackpot
How? What? Why?
>hey remember that thing she said
that's literally it
What are even her powers?
Sucking wiener.
If mary jane isn't attached to spiderman does anyone actually care if she shows up in anything though? Are they stupid?
You don't realise how long they can go. If there is no opposition insomniac may even release dlc with jist MJ with spiderman as sidekick.
cool, gonna stick to anime/manga as usual ig
they need to kill that homosexual paul off
BLACK CAT BROS NOWS OUR CHANCE!!! ATAAAAACK!!!
It's over Feliciagay, Peter stumbled his chance with Felicia in this very run and she's back with her dyke gf
>break up Peter and MJ with an absolutely bullshit plot, despite the end of Beyond setting them up back together
>the big splash page at the end of #900 sets up Peter and Felicia back together
>does nothing with them for over a year
>the only two issues where Felicia actually has a notable presence is in a literal filler story done by a guest writer and artist
>then break up Peter and Felicia with an absolutely bullshit reason
What exactly was Wells's endgame here?
They had been togheter since spencer lol. Wells's just a b***h.
They want to shove Spider Gwen and Peter together since she and Captain Stacy are permanently Staying at 616
Her reality will be destroyed for the new Spiderverse shit, and they 2 will be stranded on 616 permanently with Captain Stacy going back to the force knowing what happened to his predecessor and vowing to continue his job, Gwen and peter will be of Same age now and will Hang it out.
They have this planned for ASM #950
Source, Dont ask
Your fake leaks have never once been believable, shitposter.
And what is the outcome then Slott
Turn peter intro a wiener gargling homosexual for brownie points?
>Avi
I simply want Peter to die already and let Miles be the main Spider-Man. I'm also OK with Doc Ock becoming rogue Spider-Man again, just don't want to see him as the main one. Peter Parker is just boring at this point. Say whatever you want about Bendis, but he knew when to kill Ultimate Peter and introduce Miles, people are tired of reading the same stories about some white hero who is also a loser.
Marvel shill spotted
How am I a Marvel shill? It's Marvel that's still milking this character, pretending that people care about him, thinking that it's still the 1960s and Black and Latinx people don't read comics and don't want to see more representation in them. When Bendis killed off the Ultimate Peter Parker and created Miles Morales, millions of kids around the world started reading his comic, especially in Africa, Latin America and Asia. What's in ASM for them to read now? Some boring 25+ year old white ass infantile with mommy issues? No, thanks. Not even white kids can relate to him anymore. So why not let Miles be the main star of Marvel comics already and give him room to develop as a hero kids want to see? Everyone loved him in his movies and in PS games, more than they loved Parker. OK, if you don't want to kill Parker, just retire him like the recent game did.
>Black and Latinx
Opinion discarded
Wtf is that spoiler. Peter is not a guy who retires from responsibility. Not going to buy the game.
Peter didn’t retire. He’s taking a break from being Spider-Man for awhile because he needs to get his civilian life in order, since he’s gone through tons of physically and emotionally destructive events in just a couple of years. He’ll definitely come back for 3, Lethal Protector, or even the upcoming free DLC updates.
Still a crock of shit excuse to make Miles the main Spider-Man going forward
He won't give up responsibly. No matter what.
With great power, comes the choice of responsibility.
Shut up and buy the canon endgame adidas collab, racist.
Wtf is that dress. Ofcourse they have to create something new for miles . He don't have good alternate costumes.
That's your one and only Spider-Man [no emoji], man.
There is nothing stupider than the race-swapped copy going on and on about originality and being himself.
>How am I a Marvel shill?
>Proceeds to write like a what a Marvel shill thinks a fan would write like
kek
i fricking hate that homosexual Bendis
Bendis NEVER wanted to kill Peter, Quesada Joe and his cronies anal over OMD decided to kill him on ultimate and have him replaced with a literally ripoff Mutt of Virgil Hawkins and the black guy from community.
I don't care of it's dead, but what the frick is the point of this weird cuck shit if there isn't going to be any sort of resolution?
Why is MJ getting any narrative focus?
There is absolutely going to be some resulution, wells is out by october, the mj thing is just lasting one mini with black cat.
How do you guys keep falling for such easy bait while putting zero effort?
Anyways read ultimate instead
>Anyways read ultimate instead
no
and this homosexual israelite is bumping his own thread. sage and report this israelite.
What readerbase? Who the frick still reads comics? Only people buying them are investors that think the paper will somehow go up in price decades later.
they are pushing Miles so they are destroying peter as spider-man and people are cheering for it. Osborn was right.
>and thats a good thing
Black personing detected
It doesn't matter. HickCHAD's new magnum opus will obliterate the sales of SHITmazing and we'll return to a glorious era of Spidey being cool in his own book for a year or so before editorial fricks it
This level of Paulshilling is honestly the funniest goddamn thing for how pathetic it is
It's definitely someone at Marvel doing it
I'm convinced the only reason Paul continues to be a thing is because we made such a loud shitstorm about him. It's our own fault.
Do we even know his "big secret" yet? I know the kids were fake but still.
I think the big secret was that he's the son of Rabin, the weird magic guy who kidnapped Peter and MJ in the first place, and accidentally helped him to destroy their world
Now that Rabin is dead, that hardly matters anymore. The sole interesting trait he has left is the whole 'accidentally destroyed his old world and killed billions' thing, and the writers get pissed off at us for daring to hold that one against him.
IIRC, Rabin stated that he had basically kept them together by magicking up the kids so that he'd have an anchor to use to pull him back into our world. Paul was always only meant to keep MJ on retainer until Peter could pull her (and therefore the kids) back into our world. With the kids dead and their life together in the other world basically a sham, had they gone with the original plan to simply kill off MJ, Paul would have faded into the background. You can tell that they have NO idea what to do with him now that he has to stick around.
>Paul
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Literally nobody is reading Jackpot. The egg crackers think emancipating MJ from being Peter's wife is perfect but all they're doing is contributing to the collective fandom rot of superheroes.
>Jackpot number 1 review aggregate: 4.5/10
>Ultimate Spider-Man number 1 review aggregate: 9.9/10
>source: my ass
It's comicbook roundup user scores.
>It's comicbook roundup user scores
So Jackpot #1 was reviewbombed by a bunch of incels, is that what you mean?
And those same incels are astroturfing Ultimate Spider-Man just for not having Paul as cancer?
Maybe Marvel should do the sensible thing and please their audience by getting rid of Paul. He's definitely a millstone around everyone's necks.
>And those same incels are astroturfing Ultimate Spider-Man just for not having Paul as cancer?
Yes, apparently.
>Maybe Marvel should do the sensible thing and please their audience by getting rid of Paul.
Real art should not be created to please the audience, it should make them feel different emotions, including the negative ones. Besides, pleasing the aforementioned incels definitely should not be a priority for Marvel.
Incel spotted
Marvel only cares about money, not art. They're convinced that making people angry will force people to buy their book to hateread.
Given how easy it is to pirate, you can clearly see that they're utterly moronic.
Jackpot is great.
MJ is kicking ass as a sexy superheroine.
That’s a fan edit by the way. The actual line they used on the cover was “face it criminals, the Jackpot’s hitting you!”
A random nobody online was more clever and witty than these writers lmao
Why are you all still responding to a thread posting obvious clickbait?
>Does Marvel hate their readerbase
DC and Marvel hate their customers.
They call them "Toxic fandom" so they can do shit to piss them off which they consider "winning"
It's a big reason they're collapsing, and the comics journos are sweating bullets.
Before, these writers thought they could jump ship to the movies, or streaming shows. But the MCU is collapsing, and the DCEU was Dead on Arrival.