Oh, he admits that for Wonder Woman too when it suits DC, but he's actually neutralized both of them in the past.
https://i.imgur.com/4zc5IYH.jpg
What the contingency plan against Batman? Fighting him with out a plan tend to not work out.
No plan, just the opposite.
You just need something 'new', Batman loses first fights, not second fights. New people often wreck Batman on their first fight, Batman is seen as infallible because prep, but without it he gets wrecked by regular vigilantes like The Reaper and The Red Hood. Newer ones too. Next time they fight, Batman wins though.
>You just need something 'new', Batman loses first fights, not second fights.
Pretty much this. The trick is to press the advantage, prevent his escape, under-estimate his resiliency. Especially if you get the drop on him
But that was pre-Flashpoint and City of Bane. Now he's had his own father break him down and kill Alfred. I think he's sort of moved on from that giving him pause, especially now that it got Alfred killed.
>Make Catwoman fall in love with him, lead him on, then leave him at the altar
That's destroy anyone.
Bane may break his back, and Catwoman, his heart.
>villian digs up the bones of Bruce Waynes' parents >create nunchucks from their bones >villian wears Thomas Waynes' skull >villian uses rest of bones as crude body armor
Would this be enough for Batman to finally snap? Watching a madman wearing whats left of his beloved parents, and beating the shit out him with their bones?
Batman contingencies consist of:
Superman >Kryponite bullet-various degree of success >miniature sun gauntlets- effective if in range >a spell that creates an enchanted armor
Wonder woman >The lasso of lies
Green lantern >a yellow power ring collected during the sinestro war
Flash >a half baked idea involving a lighting rod
Martian manhunter >Nanites that release phosphorus when in contact with air
Aquaman >fear toxin that specialize in hydrophobia
Plastic man >freeze ray
zatanna & black canary >a no-toxic mustard gas that prevent breathing
green arrow >disable his arms
Honestly if I was in the League I'd probably make up a weakness and publicly fall to it a few times, or at least make a show of having to struggle to resist it
And when Batman's contingencies inevitably come up I say "Yeah I was just faking in case you ever tried this shit on me"
Superman stops holding back and throws him into the sun. Seriously I’m a huge Batgay but anybody who thinks Batman could take Superman or Flash or Wonder Woman in a legit, fair fight is a fricking moron. >buh buh buh muh dark knight returns
DKR is my favorite comic of all time and I’ve actually read the fricking book where it states in black and white that Superman is at maybe a quarter power after getting a nuke in the face AND he’s holding back because he doesn’t want to hurt Bruce. EVEN THEN Batman just manages to get a few good shots in before punking out and faking his death.
I mean the problem with a lot of Batman's Anti-Superman strategies is that they assume Superman's morality is intact when he comes to attack him, but if we're talking a scenario in which Superman has been reduced to a killing machine then yes, he would probably risk lives by just throwing an object at Batman from orbit.
It all happens instantaneously due to Supes' speed. He throws the ball through Bats horizontally, flies behind the ball and catches it while continuing to fly with it in a safe direction at a similar speed to its velocity until it slows down enough that stopping with it doesn't cause a destructive shockwave. Of course none of it matters because Supes could just fly at Bats and punch his head in faster than he can think or laser him to death.
>Fighting him with out a plan tend to not work out.
Because of plot-armor. Without plot-armor, majority of the Justice League would be capable of easily kicking Batman's ass.
Listen to me. Batman WANTS the other superheroes to think that he's an unbeatable batgod with a plan for literally everything. For the same reason he wants criminals to think he's a supernatural force of dark vengeance. It's a FRICKING BLUFF. He is a rich butthole in a gimp suit, and if people weren't scared of him, they'd realize that he's just a man, and he would be dead. Superman could drop a moon on Wayne Manor. Wonder Woman could force him to confess his secret identity on live TV. The Flash could go back in time and kick Martha in the stomach while she's pregnant. Aquaman could just hold him underwater until he stops struggling. At least one of the Green Lanterns can SNIPE PEOPLE ACROSS ENTIRE GODDAMN SECTORS OF SPACE. AND BATMAN FRICKING KNOWS THIS. His entire shtick is making people see him as an unbeatable thing, and not as a man who can be killed.
I completely agree with you that it should be the case, but writers have basically solidified that Batman backs up the hype. Like that nu52 story where Joker sics the JL on him and he beats them all.
Honestly that's Croc's second appearance in the DCAU. In his only one before for that he framed and impersonated Bullock for a couple of murders. Why did batman think he was a tard?
Could Dick or Babs defeat Batman? Maybe we're going too high, Batman can defeat gods and qhatnot with a single trinket but he constantly loses to Joker, so maybe we need something more grounded to take him on.
Sic Plastic Man on him. Even Batman admits that he's got no counter for him if he goes rogue.
What are you talking about, plastic man was one of the ones he mentioned. Use Mr.Freeze's gun and keep him in storage.
Oh, he admits that for Wonder Woman too when it suits DC, but he's actually neutralized both of them in the past.
No plan, just the opposite.
You just need something 'new', Batman loses first fights, not second fights. New people often wreck Batman on their first fight, Batman is seen as infallible because prep, but without it he gets wrecked by regular vigilantes like The Reaper and The Red Hood. Newer ones too. Next time they fight, Batman wins though.
>You just need something 'new', Batman loses first fights, not second fights.
Pretty much this. The trick is to press the advantage, prevent his escape, under-estimate his resiliency. Especially if you get the drop on him
Just be quicker where it counts.
Deathstroke is shown to be about equal against Batman until they truce.
Disturbing the body of his parents will always cause him to drop his guard.
It's the one Ra's used on him in Tower of Babel.
But that was pre-Flashpoint and City of Bane. Now he's had his own father break him down and kill Alfred. I think he's sort of moved on from that giving him pause, especially now that it got Alfred killed.
He explains that the best way to target the Batman was targeting his love ones and parents.
Is that still going to work if he's brainwashed or something?
That's not really Batman isn't he? That's just own original character BatKek
>Defeated by Zoom
>Defeated by Darkseid
>Defeated by Anti Monitor
>Defeated by new 52 Superman
A Tax reform and a companies transparency reform.
Make Catwoman fall in love with him, lead him on, then leave him at the altar
>Make Catwoman fall in love with him, lead him on, then leave him at the altar
That's destroy anyone.
Bane may break his back, and Catwoman, his heart.
and then rape him
Fight him in a parallel / elseworlds / alternate universe, there's a 50-50 chance he'll die out of sheer shock value.
Nuke him from the orbit
Drop a metal rod on his location from orbit.
any other member of JL could kill take him off easily at any given moment,but since he's a fan favorite he is always an unstoppable gary stu
Use his parents dead bodies as nunchuks against him and he’ll crumble to the floor
that was the literal contingency ra used against batman in tower of babble
Can confirm. This totally works
Or lazarus them into shambling corpses and use them as shields while Bruce slips on a well-placed banana peel on the floor
>villian digs up the bones of Bruce Waynes' parents
>create nunchucks from their bones
>villian wears Thomas Waynes' skull
>villian uses rest of bones as crude body armor
Would this be enough for Batman to finally snap? Watching a madman wearing whats left of his beloved parents, and beating the shit out him with their bones?
Batman contingencies consist of:
Superman
>Kryponite bullet-various degree of success
>miniature sun gauntlets- effective if in range
>a spell that creates an enchanted armor
Wonder woman
>The lasso of lies
Green lantern
>a yellow power ring collected during the sinestro war
Flash
>a half baked idea involving a lighting rod
Martian manhunter
>Nanites that release phosphorus when in contact with air
Aquaman
>fear toxin that specialize in hydrophobia
Plastic man
>freeze ray
zatanna & black canary
>a no-toxic mustard gas that prevent breathing
green arrow
>disable his arms
>that prevent breathing
Doesnt that... kill people? Why bother with non toxic?
He mention how it in the "experimental phase" and looking for alternatives
>miniature sun gauntlets
What do these do exactly?
there minature red suns inserted into a gauthlet for batman to punch superman without breaking his fist like he does with the kryptonite ring
Honestly if I was in the League I'd probably make up a weakness and publicly fall to it a few times, or at least make a show of having to struggle to resist it
And when Batman's contingencies inevitably come up I say "Yeah I was just faking in case you ever tried this shit on me"
Superman stops holding back and throws him into the sun. Seriously I’m a huge Batgay but anybody who thinks Batman could take Superman or Flash or Wonder Woman in a legit, fair fight is a fricking moron.
>buh buh buh muh dark knight returns
DKR is my favorite comic of all time and I’ve actually read the fricking book where it states in black and white that Superman is at maybe a quarter power after getting a nuke in the face AND he’s holding back because he doesn’t want to hurt Bruce. EVEN THEN Batman just manages to get a few good shots in before punking out and faking his death.
superman wouldn't even need to get close
just toss a baseball at Batman at 99% lightspeed
>Superman risking other live by throwing such a object at such speed
I mean the problem with a lot of Batman's Anti-Superman strategies is that they assume Superman's morality is intact when he comes to attack him, but if we're talking a scenario in which Superman has been reduced to a killing machine then yes, he would probably risk lives by just throwing an object at Batman from orbit.
Speaking of baseball forget it, learned from that one comic Supes could just blast Bats from afar by breathing out his nose at him.
I think anything that's propelled at even 1% lightspeed becomes a nuclear weapon equivalent. 99% is most certainly planet destroyer tier.
It all happens instantaneously due to Supes' speed. He throws the ball through Bats horizontally, flies behind the ball and catches it while continuing to fly with it in a safe direction at a similar speed to its velocity until it slows down enough that stopping with it doesn't cause a destructive shockwave. Of course none of it matters because Supes could just fly at Bats and punch his head in faster than he can think or laser him to death.
0.1c baseball works out at
0.5*0.145*(2.998e+7)^2
6.5163029e+13 joules
hiroshima was 1.5e+13 joules- if google serves me right
assuming an ideal transfer of energy, that's 4 or 5ish hiroshimas
>anybody who thinks Batman could take Superman or Flash or Wonder Woman in a legit, fair fight is a fricking moron.
/thread
>Fighting him with out a plan tend to not work out.
Because of plot-armor. Without plot-armor, majority of the Justice League would be capable of easily kicking Batman's ass.
banana peel
Listen to me. Batman WANTS the other superheroes to think that he's an unbeatable batgod with a plan for literally everything. For the same reason he wants criminals to think he's a supernatural force of dark vengeance. It's a FRICKING BLUFF. He is a rich butthole in a gimp suit, and if people weren't scared of him, they'd realize that he's just a man, and he would be dead. Superman could drop a moon on Wayne Manor. Wonder Woman could force him to confess his secret identity on live TV. The Flash could go back in time and kick Martha in the stomach while she's pregnant. Aquaman could just hold him underwater until he stops struggling. At least one of the Green Lanterns can SNIPE PEOPLE ACROSS ENTIRE GODDAMN SECTORS OF SPACE. AND BATMAN FRICKING KNOWS THIS. His entire shtick is making people see him as an unbeatable thing, and not as a man who can be killed.
I completely agree with you that it should be the case, but writers have basically solidified that Batman backs up the hype. Like that nu52 story where Joker sics the JL on him and he beats them all.
Hello, I believe I have a unique and original plan despite never meeting this Batman.
Honestly that's Croc's second appearance in the DCAU. In his only one before for that he framed and impersonated Bullock for a couple of murders. Why did batman think he was a tard?
Capture him and then snap is neck, shoot him, stab him to death.
Quite simple. No grandiose talk or plans, just shoot to kill.
Could Dick or Babs defeat Batman? Maybe we're going too high, Batman can defeat gods and qhatnot with a single trinket but he constantly loses to Joker, so maybe we need something more grounded to take him on.
>Batgod jokes for years
>Dark Metal makes it real
Frick DC
Use Dick Grayson against Batman
Batman trusts him the most and he is Batman's weakness
Go back in time to when he didnt have plans
kill alfred
Banana Peel
Superman has never lost a canon fight to him, so fighting without a plan seems to work pretty well.
Punch him really hard.