>I'M THE ANTIHEROINE OUT FOR REVENGE >BY SAVING PUPPIES AND DESIGNING DRESSES WITH MOTHS IN THEM
truly her cruelty knew no bounds, she would Gilles de Rais blush
Oh my fricking God every single fricking movie "this will ruin an entire generation of women!" Women already are ruined, you dumb mother frickers. The moment they were given rights they were ruined.
I have always regarded Gaga’s face as nothing short of grotesque. This look of crack prostitute Harley suits her. Though I think the entire thing is a bad idea, degrading a beloved comic character like this. I’ve never kept up with comics but I’ve seen the fandom with their art and their cosplay, and this film appears rather tone deaf. I mean, it could be good, maybe.
So Joker 2 is going to have some callback scenes? Awesome man. I love it when a film has to lean heavily on its successor.
She's acting like a fangirl who emulated her idol, unaware that it's basically mockery of the idol in question's suffering and thus making her worse than the Wall Street bullies.
It's like showing Stalin an anime where he's a cute dumb girl babied by the politburo.
Because she's not real. She's another of his hallucinations. Probably some troony signalling shit. His home backstory matches troony (and serial killer) profiling. Even the clown stuff. Little boys trained by psycho single mothers all learn to "perform" and wear "fake smiles" in case mommy has one of her little "turns" again. They all have weird party-piece little tricks and routines that they do even into adulthood.
>recalling a scene from the previous film with new character
Lazy shit like this is precisely why there shouldn't be sequels to films that weren't written with one in mind.
I'm so worried it's just going to be member berries. Why is she dancing on the stairs? The stairs only meant something to the audience because we clapped when Arthur danced down the stairs to Gary Glitter in full make up. The stairs themselves mean nothing to Arthur, he could've danced to Gary Glitter anywhere, he just happened to dance while going down the stairs and then never thought about it again. So now Lady Gaga is dancing down the exact same stairs because we the audience member when Arthur did it, and now it's HER turn to have HER iconic stair moment? I would love to believe there's a deeper meaning to this, but since we know how Todd Philips does sequels, I'm worried
The "deeper" part of it in the original is probably the aspect of descent - he's not just going anywhere in his full makeup, he's going in a downward path. Definitely lacks subelty but it worked well enough (can be said for the whole movie, like when "Everybody Plays a Fool" plays in the backround etc). That said I agree about this probably just being memberberries
The sequel will have a scene that establishes how some random civilian was holding a 1980s cam recorded and just happened to perfectly film Arthur dancing down the stairs and then it somehow goes viral and becomes an iconic JOKER moment in this films universe. So Gaga is recreating it because she's an obsessed fangirl
I completely disagree with you because of the way Arthur fleck is standing embarrassed right there. I think the movie will instead go into an exploration of how that joker persona is a superficial delusion, and seeing her go through that makes him realize how pathetic it actually is. From what I've seen of bts photos that's kind of what I've gathered, where he seems to be having an identity crisis (there's a pic of him standing next to a handsome, Chad Asian joker which I assume is in his imagination) and Lady gaga embarassing him. I think there's some real potential for this to be a genuinely interesting film on how relationships can make us see things about ourselves we hadn't been able to before. It's possible he will realize she is in love with the joker persona and not the real him, which might make him finalize the separation between real self and his Invented coping mechanism identity. I hope it goes in this direction and I'm very excited to watch it
Are they smart enough to do this? I’d watch the frick out of that. Creating his alternative persona which at first felt empowering to see copied, like his own personal army, then it just becomes le trendy and full-blown cringe, and he feels cheapened and shamed, uncomfortable with himself, even his own therapist joining in on the TikTok trend and dancing down the stairs. Their relationship has canonically and notoriously toxic, him seeming to completely hate her at times. If this film takes the direction you describe it could elegantly explain the WHY other than muh damaged and crazy, all while taking a hard look at himself in the mirror.
Turning your gritty incel crime movie into a musical for women is absolutely dripping with self-awareness and the whiners in this thread seem to be missing that. I’m guessing it’ll be reminiscent of Gremlins 2, where the director got dragged back because the first was so successful and then makes a movie that is absurd and seems to parody the first.
Think about how Hangover 3 was a weird crime movie compared to the dumb comedy that was the first one.
Well, that’s what I expect them to do. Obnoxious anti fan service in an attempt to “broaden” the audience. Which would follow your description: >let’s target the female demographic! >only let’s make it absurdist self-aware “lol look at us we don’t take ourselves-the creators, as in us, look at us- too seriously.” Lol isn’t this FUNNY? >well I guess you just hate women and are bitter incels who can’t appreciate a joke >censors online reviews because “it’s just trolls”
imagine if he's not the "real" joker and it was someone else jumping on the bandwagon like lady caca and he kills himself cus he sucks again and no one members him haha
the worse part is, canon in the movie, unless Arthur outright tells her "I danced like this on this stairs", she has no way of knowing
It's the Ana and Sally ball and basket autism test, failed
this sequel makes no sense, he is sad because he's alone with no real human connection like in fight club, if he had a carrying gf he wouldn't be that way
I think thats the point of this movie. Calling it rn he will stop being joker but also he won't end up with her because she only loves joker idea, not the real him
The behind the scenes video of this scene leaked months ago. It ends with a bunch of cops showing up to arrest him while she carries on dancing
I don't think she's just going to be his fangirl gf
Ok this film was good and all but it shouldnt have been set in Gotham. Do the Killing Joke version of Joker. I hate my mother too but I wouldnt make a movie about it.
Looks like something Arthur imagined to me
He's probably delusional and thinking she's falling in madness like he did and she has to have her descent scene too but it's all in his head
>loner outcast man finally snaps and does outlandish shit like doing cringe dances on stairs in public due to losing his sanity >female mimics him and steals his schtich just because >IM JUST LIKE YOU XDDD
frick and kill women
I know this is going to sound cliche and not like a great “twist” but I still think fitting for the character..I hope that she is like a figment of his imagination, I think the whole thing about his character is how he’s delusional and kind of pathetic and it would really make her character less annoying if she were like completely fake especially if he knows it and it’s not some “twist”, like if he realizes early on that she’s in his imagination but she won’t go away. Then it’s like the same joker movie but just that Harley is like a clown ghost girl he made up in his head who would be perfect for him. Then again, it could easily be a bad idea if done wrong.
WHAT IF JOKER WAS...A GIRL
AN UGLY GIRL, WHO SINGS DUMB SONGS
A israeli GIRL
italian... but she may as well be a israelite with how many of those wienerroaches she helps and has on her "team".
Said a dumbass like you in 1992
what happened in 1992???
I was born
Kevin Nash gave birth to a troony
did he really? How'd he get pregnant?
you tell me
So you don't know?
So you don't know?
Harley Quinn was invented.
remember when harley quinn wasn't just girlboss deadpool for "Quirky" girls?
its so over for you
>HE DOESN'T KNOW
Kevin Nash was brutally raped and gaped
KWAB
>he doesn’t know about the sweltering summer of 92’
KWAB
KWARB
Making sure I'm not going to watch the Joker sequel.
exactly!
Not my harlequin
This is what happens when you try to replicate a viral sensation, but don't know why it was a sensation.
This will flop so bad...Vomits out dialogue from her butthole, Lady Gagass
SHE IS JOKERING AAAAAAAAAA DAD IS GOING TO FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAK
This will ruin a generation of women
Mark my words
It reeks of Cruella.
>I’M D A M A G E D
>I'M THE ANTIHEROINE OUT FOR REVENGE
>BY SAVING PUPPIES AND DESIGNING DRESSES WITH MOTHS IN THEM
truly her cruelty knew no bounds, she would Gilles de Rais blush
>implying there are any unruined women other than the unborn
what's to ruin
He's McFrickin' had it 🙁
Damn, that's jokerpilled
holy kek
holy check
holy czech
What the frick is going on with all these digits?
You wouldn't get it.
He's right
now thats a good joke
me on the left (but also on the right)
Animal trainers should beware invoking the Nephilim by beclowing animals. I'd say harmless in this case.
can i get a hot nephilim gf if i beclown my dog
unironically what's the app
I'm an autist and would be really helpfull to see the %100 sample for each emotion
frick. he's right.
hahahaha.
Shitting on a pile of shit doesn't ruin the pile. It just makes it bigger.
Oh my fricking God every single fricking movie "this will ruin an entire generation of women!" Women already are ruined, you dumb mother frickers. The moment they were given rights they were ruined.
She seems skuntly. That is not a thing, but you know what I mean.
>She seems skuntly.
A sprightly, bawdy c**t. I like it!
I have always regarded Gaga’s face as nothing short of grotesque. This look of crack prostitute Harley suits her. Though I think the entire thing is a bad idea, degrading a beloved comic character like this. I’ve never kept up with comics but I’ve seen the fandom with their art and their cosplay, and this film appears rather tone deaf. I mean, it could be good, maybe.
That's because she's a filthy crypto israelite that has gotten a million surgeries on her face.
So Joker 2 is going to have some callback scenes? Awesome man. I love it when a film has to lean heavily on its successor.
So, how will they subvert Harley this time? Make her a dyke? Le real mastermind? What?
She's acting like a fangirl who emulated her idol, unaware that it's basically mockery of the idol in question's suffering and thus making her worse than the Wall Street bullies.
It's like showing Stalin an anime where he's a cute dumb girl babied by the politburo.
how the frick would she know he danced on some stairs by himself years before he met her? you stupid fricking homosexual. frick you.
She represents the audience dood
Because she's not real. She's another of his hallucinations. Probably some troony signalling shit. His home backstory matches troony (and serial killer) profiling. Even the clown stuff. Little boys trained by psycho single mothers all learn to "perform" and wear "fake smiles" in case mommy has one of her little "turns" again. They all have weird party-piece little tricks and routines that they do even into adulthood.
Yeah... my mom physically and emotionally abused me for the first 25 years of my life, and when I get too drunk I'll act like her. It's sickening.
>Make her a dyke?
Isn't she one in Canon already? How would that be subversive?
>lets do the fricking staircase scene again but with a woman.
WHY DO IT AT ALL!
That's a he.
>recalling a scene from the previous film with new character
Lazy shit like this is precisely why there shouldn't be sequels to films that weren't written with one in mind.
What's she doing? Dethroning the girlboss Harley we've had since the New 52 reboot.
>if only you knew how bad things are
>I said it and she still won't go away
>Owari da
>I hate women so fricking much it’s unreal.
live from kazakhstan
>it's all so tiresome
>It's over.
For the autism bros:
Joker is sad and harley is doing the dance to cheer him up
I'm so worried it's just going to be member berries. Why is she dancing on the stairs? The stairs only meant something to the audience because we clapped when Arthur danced down the stairs to Gary Glitter in full make up. The stairs themselves mean nothing to Arthur, he could've danced to Gary Glitter anywhere, he just happened to dance while going down the stairs and then never thought about it again. So now Lady Gaga is dancing down the exact same stairs because we the audience member when Arthur did it, and now it's HER turn to have HER iconic stair moment? I would love to believe there's a deeper meaning to this, but since we know how Todd Philips does sequels, I'm worried
Pseuds would say Arthur was symbolically descending into madness with glee.
The "deeper" part of it in the original is probably the aspect of descent - he's not just going anywhere in his full makeup, he's going in a downward path. Definitely lacks subelty but it worked well enough (can be said for the whole movie, like when "Everybody Plays a Fool" plays in the backround etc). That said I agree about this probably just being memberberries
The sequel will have a scene that establishes how some random civilian was holding a 1980s cam recorded and just happened to perfectly film Arthur dancing down the stairs and then it somehow goes viral and becomes an iconic JOKER moment in this films universe. So Gaga is recreating it because she's an obsessed fangirl
that would be the biggest frick you to cinema, the joker, capeshit, pseudshit, reddit, Cinemaphile and tumblr that could ever exist
>what if we just made the worst film we could, but on PURPOSE
You already did this, Rian
TLJ is better than all the prequels
What an incredibly low bar, that would still make it the worst except Rise of Skywalker
Better than all three prequels and RoS makes it middle of the road for SW
>TLJ is better than all the prequels
this is what rebbitors actually believe
Reddit loves the prequels
I completely disagree with you because of the way Arthur fleck is standing embarrassed right there. I think the movie will instead go into an exploration of how that joker persona is a superficial delusion, and seeing her go through that makes him realize how pathetic it actually is. From what I've seen of bts photos that's kind of what I've gathered, where he seems to be having an identity crisis (there's a pic of him standing next to a handsome, Chad Asian joker which I assume is in his imagination) and Lady gaga embarassing him. I think there's some real potential for this to be a genuinely interesting film on how relationships can make us see things about ourselves we hadn't been able to before. It's possible he will realize she is in love with the joker persona and not the real him, which might make him finalize the separation between real self and his Invented coping mechanism identity. I hope it goes in this direction and I'm very excited to watch it
Are they smart enough to do this? I’d watch the frick out of that. Creating his alternative persona which at first felt empowering to see copied, like his own personal army, then it just becomes le trendy and full-blown cringe, and he feels cheapened and shamed, uncomfortable with himself, even his own therapist joining in on the TikTok trend and dancing down the stairs. Their relationship has canonically and notoriously toxic, him seeming to completely hate her at times. If this film takes the direction you describe it could elegantly explain the WHY other than muh damaged and crazy, all while taking a hard look at himself in the mirror.
Turning your gritty incel crime movie into a musical for women is absolutely dripping with self-awareness and the whiners in this thread seem to be missing that. I’m guessing it’ll be reminiscent of Gremlins 2, where the director got dragged back because the first was so successful and then makes a movie that is absurd and seems to parody the first.
Think about how Hangover 3 was a weird crime movie compared to the dumb comedy that was the first one.
Well, that’s what I expect them to do. Obnoxious anti fan service in an attempt to “broaden” the audience. Which would follow your description:
>let’s target the female demographic!
>only let’s make it absurdist self-aware “lol look at us we don’t take ourselves-the creators, as in us, look at us- too seriously.” Lol isn’t this FUNNY?
>well I guess you just hate women and are bitter incels who can’t appreciate a joke
>censors online reviews because “it’s just trolls”
>broaden the audience
Careful, the majority of capeshit consumers are Amerilards. We don't want to be broadening them too much.
imagine if he's not the "real" joker and it was someone else jumping on the bandwagon like lady caca and he kills himself cus he sucks again and no one members him haha
the worse part is, canon in the movie, unless Arthur outright tells her "I danced like this on this stairs", she has no way of knowing
It's the Ana and Sally ball and basket autism test, failed
>woman chases clout, ruins everything
Tale as old as time. Kill all women.
>What the frick is she doing?
Ruining another film by the looks of it.
this sequel makes no sense, he is sad because he's alone with no real human connection like in fight club, if he had a carrying gf he wouldn't be that way
I think thats the point of this movie. Calling it rn he will stop being joker but also he won't end up with her because she only loves joker idea, not the real him
The behind the scenes video of this scene leaked months ago. It ends with a bunch of cops showing up to arrest him while she carries on dancing
I don't think she's just going to be his fangirl gf
Ok this film was good and all but it shouldnt have been set in Gotham. Do the Killing Joke version of Joker. I hate my mother too but I wouldnt make a movie about it.
Joaquin Phoenix really killing it with the "I hate my mom" genre lately
'member jokers iconic stairs dance?
well this time its a bisexual woman doing it, and its better!!
Looks like something Arthur imagined to me
He's probably delusional and thinking she's falling in madness like he did and she has to have her descent scene too but it's all in his head
>What the frick is she doing?
Living a gifted life. Was pushed straight into the limelight before even having any success
I'm half expecting this to be commentary on how women ruin anything for clout.
Bringing an interesting take to a stale character
What's the point of this movie
Milking the success of the first one while being nothing like it and chastising you for even liking the other one "for the wrong reasons".
Daddy's gonna' freak?
Lady Gaga is actually kind of cute??
I fricking hate lady gaga go get raped by your producer some more stupid c**t
She doesn't exist, that's gonna be the wow big reveal at the end.
Its a meta joke in the movie. Wooohoo. meta humor
>loner outcast man finally snaps and does outlandish shit like doing cringe dances on stairs in public due to losing his sanity
>female mimics him and steals his schtich just because
>IM JUST LIKE YOU XDDD
frick and kill women
>Verification not required.
How does anyone know Joker did this? He does it at random and it's never publicized. Hopefully it's a story he told her when she was his therapist.
>bitches be like you changed
>yeah b***h a new Harley Quinn movie came out of course I had to change
box office bomb? big bomb?
>Women get it done, chudcel!
I know this is going to sound cliche and not like a great “twist” but I still think fitting for the character..I hope that she is like a figment of his imagination, I think the whole thing about his character is how he’s delusional and kind of pathetic and it would really make her character less annoying if she were like completely fake especially if he knows it and it’s not some “twist”, like if he realizes early on that she’s in his imagination but she won’t go away. Then it’s like the same joker movie but just that Harley is like a clown ghost girl he made up in his head who would be perfect for him. Then again, it could easily be a bad idea if done wrong.
It could be done right, but there’d have to be some other plot carrying the film. Otherwise it would be too much like a lesser Fight Club.
Why isn't it just called "Harley"
the name works on an ironic level which is perfect for these metafilms about the reaction to the original film
we've been seeing production stils for at least 2 years now, when the frick is this getting released?
>What the frick is she doing?
Being cringe, which is exactly what this entire movie is gonna be.