What the frick is the point of these if you got phasers?
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What the frick is the point of these if you got phasers?
What the frick is the point of these if you got phasers?
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Do normal phaser pistols have to be recharged? How many rounds can you fire before it's empty? What's the difference between a phaser rifle and phaser pistol?
What the frick is the point of these if youve got handguns?
Range. Phaser pistols are pretty much shown to have infinite amounts of range (duh because it's a laser). Dumb question.
uuuh lasers don't have infinite range because light dilutes the further away it is from its source
it's like saying that if i point a laser pointer at the moon, you could see the red dot on its surface with a strong enough telescope
Even a laser light scatters in the atmosphere. But if you were hovering above the Moon, you could pinpoint it like that, with a strong enough beam.
exactly: a strong enough beam, which brings us to the existence of phaser rifles which probably have a stronger battery or some such. I may be wrong though since I've never watched Star Trek...
They have long enough range to make a slightly bigger phaser weapon redundant
Photon Microwave Amplified by the Stimulated Emission of Radiation. Or so some old lore said that was Phaser is short for. The Phaser rifle could probably vaporize a crap ton more material in a shorter amount of time than the standard side arm phaser, but of course it's all a bunch of fiction with a goodeytwoshoes twist and a limited budget so we never see enough energy weapon battles that are consistent with the power of the phasers. Riker remarks in one episode that the standard side arm phaser on setting 16 should bring down half the building he is in. (Which means the phaser rifle could probably blast through a ship's hull with ease and vaporize hundreds of people per standard discharge. But that's super expensive to portray on film, especially in the late 80's, early 90's. For the same reasons, bullets are almost never shown to be as effective as they are in real life.)
TOS was a little better about depicting the firepower, battles with phaser pistols sometimes took place miles apart. A couple of phaser batteries can provide enough energy to launch a shuttlecraft into low orbit. Captain Tracey managed to wipe out thousands of people with one, when there's a phaser on overload onboard the Enterprise, it's treated as a threat to the ship itself and has to be jettisoned into space even then, the explosion causes turbulence onboard even after it's been spaced. It's only in the later Treks when phaser beams produce pathetic little clouds of sparks and an overloaded phaser goes off like a firecracker.
Also, In canon, Phaser now stands for PHASEd Energy Rectification which is pure technobabble, but what isn't in Trek?
That makes sense in the same way that battle rifles from WWI are huge and can punch holes through cars, WWII rifles were smaller, and modern ones are even smaller and more anemic.
I suppose so, but the thing I miss the most is how in later Treks they never use the "vaporise" setting. Don't know why they stopped doing that, but I suspect it's just because they thought the idea of a "disintegrator ray" was too corny for 80's audiences.
>"disintegrator ray" was too corny for 80's audiences
Only the evil races use disintegrators, and but you can also see phasers doing that in the movies.
They use it sometimes.
IRL, it was found that most infantry engagements occurred at close ranges, so frick huge long battle rifles are overkill. Rate of fire, small size and weight, and ergonomics became more important.
Phasers aren't lasers, the beam is made of a fictional particle called the "nadion" and they mention ships being "in weapons range" often, so they can't be infinite.
>fictional particle
It's phased plasma, hence phaser
>all lasers are of equal power
>energy is like, free and stuff
lol what a moron
Targetting systems, shoots more straight, bigger battery, stronger yield... I'm not sure if there's an actual canon answer, but you can easily come up with headcanon reason at least.
targetting systems seems unlikely. Stronger yield? like stronger that the kill setting? ive never seen phaser rifles do anything a phaser pistol cant. Storage capacity could be the case
>targetting systems seems unlikely.
You can literally see in it onscreen: https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/TR-116_rifle
They wear a funny DBZ style scouter. I'd post the image, but fricking Fandom.com only serves webps and avifs...
but why do they always miss???
>I'd post the image, but fricking Fandom.com only serves webps and avifs
I assume you opened the image in another tab, right clicked to save and it was a webp? There is away around that. Just have the image open and hit ctrl+s, it will offer a non moronic format to save instead
>Just have the image open and hit ctrl+s
Hmm, I'll try to remember that. But now that I tried the site again, it automatically gives me a regular jpeg... weird.
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I hate her so much its unreal
The only things I don't like about Ezri, is how cute she is, and how she fricks like half the men on the station, in a very short timespan.
Her character is "confused teenager with no suitable role models".
Black person with Black person taste
Ezri> Jadzia
Indeed
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Is that the rifle that fires solid projectiles supplied by a small replicator?
Sounds neato but unnecessary.
Maybe. I can't be bothered to read the article now, LOL.
I think the Elite Force games also had a railgun of shorts, which just beams a projectile thru walls, straight into enemies.
That's what it was, a transporter rifle. it seemed to take a standard clip though.
>transporter rifle
Now I'm imagining it placing something in the center of someone's skull. Not at any sort of velocity, just replacing the matter that was there with a marble. Think of the possibilities: filling someone's nutsack with loose bird shot pellets, putting a single shard of broken glass in some dude's bladder, removing a bone from their leg or better, aborting a fetus by beaming it one foot away from its preferred position.
No, it has a normal magazine with bullets.
The special tech is a transporter system that teleports the bullet (with velocity conserved) right in front of a target. Combined with a eye piece that can see through walls and you can shoot from anywhere.
they only came up with that particular weapon for the sake of that godawful CSI episode, easily the worst episode since season 2
Maybe. But even OP's image shows some kind of screen or sight.
Yes, there is a flip up sight. Pic related, you can see it near Worfs hand
>Stronger yield? like stronger that the kill setting? ive never seen phaser rifles do anything a phaser pistol cant. Storage capacity could be the case
It's a big part of it. Hand phasers run out of energy after several minutes of continual use. Phaser rifles can be used for hours without recharging.
They can also provide a stronger yield that can punch through matter that a regular phaser takes more time to break up.
Ever heard of a tank?
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It's just as ridiculous as the premise of Star Trek. They can teleport to anywhere in the universe from Earth but they still choose to explore with star ships.
>They can teleport to anywhere in the universe from Earth but they still choose to explore with star ships
This is the dumbest post I've read all day
Don’t t you hate it when someone makes a post you can’t refute but it still inexplicably booty blasts you all the same?
>Why shit in a toilet when I can just shit my pants
>food analogy
Didn't realise you ate shit buddy but you sure do talk it.
They don't have toilets in their rooms in Star Trek. They shit into the replicator so their fecal matter can be reconstituted into Troi's next chocolate fudge sundae
That's a myth. There are toilets on the Enterprise, they are in the design schematics and everything. The pipes go directly to Troi's replicator so the shit doesn't have to lose its flavor in being reconstituted. She eats pure shit.
Yeah but where do Troi's used panties go?
There are no underwear in space. Just ask Princess Leia.
>They can teleport to anywhere in the universe from Earth
they can't. you can teleport from planets to ships in orbit
No they can't. Although they did find an extinct alien civilization with that technology.
They blew it up rather than let the Romulans get a hold of it.
>They can teleport to anywhere in the universe from Earth
What compels a man to speak such idiocy?
>they can teleport to anywhere in the universe from Earth
There is an entire star trek show about a ship that accidentally gets stuck on the far end of the galaxy and they can’t just tp back…
>They can teleport to anywhere in the universe from Earth
If this were true, Voyager wouldn't exist as a show.
Okay, troll, I'll give you the real answer. First: there are limits to the teleporter. You can't beam yourself literally half way across the galaxy. It only works on a relatively "local" range.
Secondly, the people of Star Trek CHOOSE to go exploring, because it's dull to just sit at home. This is also the reason why they don't use robots/synths for the job. It's supposed to be a humanistic endeavour.
All of these things are well-explained in the shows, which you clearly never watched.
Troll or not, Into Darkness did have that bullshit.
They have more power
phaser pistols are shown disintegrating people. While they may have more power, they'd only be more useful against a tank or something, which is never shown to exist.
Are futuristic space tanks ever even mentioned?
Yes in DS9. As well as bigass murder robots/power armor.
DS9 isn't canon. It's a fever dream that takes place in an alternate reality. Benjamin Sisko fell into the wormhole and spent the entire series hallucinating with the hole spirits.
I support this in that most of the rest of ST properties are pretty cringe and bad and DS9 has appeal beyond.
Face it, DS9 with all of its weaknesses is the most consistently enjoyable ST series.
Yes, Ezri is cute and best girl. Kira is next. Jadzia is a disaster.
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I guess it kind of makes sense why you never see power armor or tanks in Star Trek, phasers are so incredibly powerful that they wouldn't be effective. You can only avoid getting shot, not withstand the beam.
>he doesnt install deflector shields on his tank and power armour.
if you can fit them on your suv sized ftl shuttle then you can fit them on a tank.
What if you encounter shielded enemies like the Borg?
A handheld phaser might disintegrate an unshielded enemy but higher energy output from a rifle might be able to punch through. It might even be armor piercing or something.
It seems common sense to me that the rifle just “does more” than the standard phaser pistol.
It looks ridiculous
phasers are cool because they lock onto the target. doesn't require precise aiming like we're used to with firearms. just hold it out and point towards the general direction
Where do they say that? Seems a bit cheap and boring. That takes away the tension for me.
It would have to operate this way. It's a continuous beam of energy, so the beam has to compensate for imperfect human aim. It locks itself on to some degree, probably customizable as to how strong you want that.
But you see them miss with phasers often enough and the range at which handphasers are used makes lock on kind of pointless. It doesn't even matter where you hit them, you can delete someone by hitting their pinky toe
It's a fan theory because the actors aim is often wildly off, but that's really just because the props are very uneconomic.
There appears to be a flip-up targeting system on the back, or a futuristic scope.
If Fed soldiers were killed and couldn’t be recovered, the rifle has a big enough power plant to detonate and toast any evidence. Thus, not violating the Prime Directive.
More power and a bigger charge. Type 1 and Type 2 phasers have been shown in multiple series to be more than sufficient to harm or kill most humanoids, but you also have silicon buttholes that are more resistant so in order to kill them you need more power than what a smaller handheld will get you with a Type 3 phaser rifle. Frick crystal Black folk. Type 3s also shoot in bursts rather than a single solid laser beam.
The phaser that looks like a key fob is moronic
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More powerful.
Doesn't make a difference if you're shooting a human, but if you're trying to punch through a forcefield or damage a shuttle then a hand phaser isn't gonna cut it.
Stability and more power. The hand phasers were lethal enough when set to kill, but the had limited use time. That and it was harder to aim at longer range. The phaser rifle solved both those problems. More charge and dual grips allowed someone to fire at things from longer range, for longer periods
Maybe they had better penetration or AOE or splash damage
higher output probably
Ergonomics? A rifle configuration will be more accurate at longer range, not because of the firing mechanism / technology but because it can be braced against the shoulder and fired with both hands.
Perfect answer
No, the lasers don't use explosives. There is no reason to brace because there is no recoil.
The base level phaser is already the most ergonomic of the weapons, because you simply point.
I can point and with relative accuracy hit anything within my sightline without even looking where i'm pointing.
The real reason is shown in a few episodes where they have actual full scale combat.
Like the one episode where the entire planet is in total open rebellion (planet is just one big megacity).
The rifle had additional technologies for sight adjustment (targeting systems), additional methods of shooting.
Problem was they never explored these concepts in any larger capacity nor focused on them when shown.
So we really don't know the total limits.
IIRC another difference is hand phasers need to be manually recharged. You literally have to take them to an armory and stick em in a slot. Phaser rifles recharge on their own over time
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Variety in the props and to let the audience know when it was SERIOUS COBAT TIME. The CGI of the time didn't make it easy to show phasers opening up walls, like high power energy weapons would do. Notably, they also never use the transporter as an execution device, which it would be devilishly good at doing if it could precisely disassemble and then reassemble you in such a short amount of time.
What the frick is the point of ship-mounted phaser banks when you can just use a handheld phaser
Size of the bea a ship mounted phaser can level a city
/k/ was talking about these.You should seriously ask them,strange how much knowledge they had.
In one of the movies Data cleared the entire bridge with a single shot,at least it has a VERY wide beam when needed.
I think it can also do much more structural damage.
you can only set phasers to STUN
not kill
those laser bazookas are designed to kill
That's co pletely false. Even a hand phaser can be set to vaporize it's targets
I'm going to assume range, and more shots per battery pack. Also it doesn't feel like you're trying to aim a remote control.
They're create a beam with a rational polarity to increase accuracy.
Uh, in English doc?
they make the light spin and the spin makes it go straighter
crystal, ty
Klingons should have an extremely quick transporting method that allows them to utilize their melee weapons by teleporting within striking distance of the enemy to negate their ranged adantage. This should also coincide with them adopting an extremely hardline warrior ethos.
>utilize their melee weapons by teleporting within striking distance of the enemy to negate their ranged adantage
Only Kahless himself ever unlocked the Commando Pro perk, and then only by eating Molor's heart.
Mr Woof
no, some kind man portable shields ala dune could easily have been the klingon's 'thing'. even there tactics with cloaking and being sneaky being only to facilitate boarding parties.
so you just have to shoot the frick out of each one like he's master chief or get stabbed.
Better question: why don't they use the fan shaped shot more often? Why don't they move the beam while firing to shoot a swath through the air?
I'm pretty sure it's just a 'shell' with an open front that you can slide a regular phaser into. Like a phone case, but for tryhards who want to look tacticool.