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He was right all along
ABSOLUTE FRICKING KINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
The ending was so fricking kino, but for me the Simon one always sticks out. Hang on I'll get the bit after he dies (no spoiler)
I've never watched this. Always associated with other dumb shit like the wiz. This is kind of kino gonna check it out.
It's fricking great. If you like the Baz Luhrman Romeo and Juliet, it's a similar thing, and probably directly inspired it - the romans have guns and the fashion is partially reflective of how we (from the 70's) would perceive it. Beyond that the music is incredible. I'm also not religious, I just think it's a genuinely good interpretation of something that has impacted us all.
>I've never watched this. Always associated with other dumb shit like the wiz. This is kind of kino gonna check it out.
its fricking great
Do you guys have a good clip Damned For All Time/Blood Money????
Ty. I remember this being the first song I listened to that made me obsessed with this album as a kid, and I guess my faith in general lol.
Just perpetually in awe of the amount of kino this generated.
Judas was the perfect foil, he sympathised with Jesus's message of peace and love, obviously paralleling the zeitgeist of the early 70s, but he did not really believe in him. The thing is, as much as Jesus's actions seemingly defied reason, it worked. Coming back at that time and that place with its poverty, cruelty and oppression had far more impact than Jesus visiting us today.
I'm in awe of how you dance around narrative culpability. Who do you think was ultimately the villain?
Sorry, where was the part of the Bible that said God didn't sacrifice his son for the sins of man - that whoopsie-doodles he just kinda ended up belittled and crucified through complete happenstance and coincidence?
In the middle, you must have missed it.
why can atheists/agnostics make good jesus films but christians cannot?
it's kind of embarrassing isn't it?
Not in the least. it's the fricking bomb when they do it
we love that shit
Why would you think we wouldnt like them making good jesus movies? wtf lol
He couldn't serve two masters
He was a real Judas
Nathan Fielder lookin ass
dis homie plays piano weird
>to play the piano, and play the piano for people
Yeah, no, your father doesn't hate you because you have musical talent, Liberace.
I prefer the original cast recording for simon zealotes
>blondie at 0:41
Literally perfect
My brother, of course Jesus is perfect.
he literally tells you exactly what his problem was at the very beginning
>What the frick was his problem?
bro literally listen to the song
>Your followers are blind. Too much heaven on their mind.
Jesus shredding the vocals makes me a believer
Ted Neely with them pearly whites. I haven't been able to stand any other version of this song.
Gethsamane is my favourite but I like Herod's scene. It's goofy
Imagine going out into the desert with your boys to shoot religious kino
I'M SORRY BUT HOLY KINO
the last third of that is the most intense stuff I've seen on this board.
The movie is fun, my only gripe is Ted Neely. Ian Gillan is the true voice of Jesus in my eyes.Carl Anderson mogs Murray Head though.
Wat, the movie was way better than the original cast.
I agree with this anon
Judas was an improvement and the rest of the cast was even with their album counterparts. Ted Neely sounds like a b***h compared to Gillan tbh.
I just don't hear it. Gillian sounds like he can't even hit the notes
The movie had a dirty sound to it. I don't know if that was because of the filmimg tech in the 70s but it made the musical for me.
However, the song of god was cross eyed? Gtfo
Idk about 70s film tech but I know this sound comes from the golden era of tube amplifiers. Warm twang was the way
It worked in Neeley's favour
The entire thing was overdubbed a la spaghetti westerns, which is why it never marries up perfectly, but the point about tube amplifiers still stands. the entire thing was made on a shoestring, I think it was one of Andrew Lloyd Webber's earliest.
the 1973 version always bothered me in that they mixed all the music at like 50% and the vocals at 100%. Just sounds off
Yeah it's always slightly off, I can tolerate it for this though. Is that a bayoux damoclese?
Hit us with Gethsemene, anon.
check this channel out he raised the music mix in a few of the songs
I really like the movie, but the 1970 album just has the clearest & harshest vocals, and the instrumentals are way more crisp. Carl Anderson (black Judas) doesn't compare to Murray Head vocally. However, I 100% understand the theatrical choice of making Judas black. It's a bummer what that probably does to the average impressionable African viewer, but that decision really served so much to the visual kino of the film.
Judas is easily the biggest improvement from the album. Just compare their takes on the title track
the rest of the cast are either a wash or better on the album
I feel like Mary got the short end in this movie. She had maybe 1 good song in the whole thing.
Even Caesar and Herod had better songs. Hell even the Pharisees
That's Pilate, not Tiberius (Caesar).
oh that's right
Everything's Alright, Could We Start Again Please, I Don't Know How to Love Him
pretty good tracks to lead on
I don't know if this counts as Mary's song because Jesus and Judas' parts are the best part of the song
yeah it takes a bit to get there but jesus kills that scene
They literally zoom in on the relevent bits of artwork
I thought in this song that it was only ever Mary & Jesus singing, and it was more of Jesus reprimanding Mary while she begs to soothe him from the fate he faces. Well, from the 1970 album listening anyway.
Interesting take, the idea that he's prescient is the entire point of the tragedy, but every iteration implies she knows everything and maybe more. Also Judas stealing it again.
can't believe i instantly recalled that it was judas. i watched jesus christ superstar like when i was 12 and never again.
It's salt
i don't know if it's common interpretation but I like how they have Pilate as a reluctant participant
everyone gets a little bit of character development. even Herod recoils when he sees the reality of capital punishment
very well written movie
>You have nothing in your hands
Literally holding him in his hand
What did Jesus mean by this
I get Goosebumps when Pilate starts screaming. He absolutely shreds his vocal cords there.
Honestly the run time to goosebump ratio on this film is hard to beat.
>i don't know if it's common interpretation but I like how they have Pilate as a reluctant participant
It's quite literally the official version. "Washing my hands" as expression comes from Pilate, saying to the israelites that the blood of Jesus is on their hands, not his.
Why did the israelites want jesus dead again? Jesus was called the king of the israelites wasnt he
He preached a different version of their religion, called himself the messiah(accused of this anyways) and that was heresy to israelites.
Not gonna go into details to avoid spoiling an otherwise wholesome thread.
see
Herod is the leader of israeli community under the romans and pontius tries to defer judgement to him to try and keep the peace. Pontius actually has major misgivings in the 73 version and actively doubts his decision making. It's honestly the most kino interpretation I've seen.
Also he chucks bagels at him to get him to leave
Frick off, really?
His thumb's covering the hole, but yes.
Stop thus
Feed my household with this bread
You could do it on your head
"King of the israelites" was the official crime Jesus was executed for, and what was written above him when crucified, though the real reason was because he was challenging the authority of the israeli leaders, so they framed it as challenging Roman authority.
The israelites actually wanted the crime changed to "This man claimed to be king of the israelites" but Pilate's response was "What I have written, I have written."
Nice summary
>Matthew 27:24–25
>So when Pilate saw that he was gaining nothing, but rather that a riot was beginning, he took water and washed his hands before the crowd, saying "I am innocent of this man’s blood; see to it yourselves." And all the people answered, "His blood be on us and on our children!"
>"His blood be on us and on our children!"
>and on our children!
YO that's fricking wild to say. Imagine hating someone so much
>Judas black
What did Andrew llyod Webber mean by this?
oh oops. Shit w/e
That was a movie production decision, not an ALW one. Nice one though, lol. What'd they mean by this? That making some one stand out directly from the majority of the cast & main character by color alone shows that he is opposed to the other. It'd be like if Jesus & his apostles were red, but Judas was blue.
Herod's harem also the most diverse part of the movie lol
I was also just thinking of that as I was making that post. You could take it either way, but I think that for the Herod scene they just took whoever would fit. Making Judas black was 100% a decision they took at least some time to discuss. I really hate hyper-focusing on that though, because it just paints more negative racial tones towards nigs. They have enough, and I don't appreciate undeserved heat from some one making an obvious kino visual choice v.s. their natural pull.
It's only in the modern day that it's so agressively polarised. In the late 60's/early 70's, there was still the possibility that he was simply a better singer than the competition, and they thought no one would use race as a commentary when bringing it up half a century later. They were wrong, but hey.
I'll take the 'hey'. Either way, a great kino choice.
Post hey
Its still kino but to what end?
The end was just the visual representation. That's it. It was an obvious audience marker & the actor could sing well enough. The only reason we all think this is wild is because we live in an age where race is everything.
OK. I still listen to this song a lot. I especially liked when Jesus called Judas 'you Judas' in The Last Supper.
>One thing I'll say for him, Jesus is cool
For me it's sassy french Judas and underwear model Jesus.
fuu- I can't get over Carl anderson's version
So fricking sick
Try this one, c'mon.
Damn bois... Judas was just being a realist
was it so wrong
This, he literally spells out the plot that never gets acknowledged in the retelling.
Missing the whole point of FAITH
Like Alfred says in the Dark Knight
>THE POWER OF BELIEF
I still pray that Judas is forgiven for the sin of his betrayal.
Doesn't Jesus literally forgive him before anyone else?
Can't I still pray!?!?!!?
Dante puts him in the lowest circle of hell alongside Brutus.
That doesn't mean anything. Dante's work is just personal fiction.
How do I get a kino friend/arch nemesis singing counterpoints to my religious narrative from a cliff top while I walk below, oblivious? Bros?
hey
Carl weathers is truly a spectacular singer.
Carl Winslow truly had a storied career
Lord Jesus Christ, son of God, please safe me, a sinner.
FOOLS! YOU HAVE NO PERCEPTION
Pilate played by crais from farscape: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0CgVGrn-AU
WHAT THEN TO DO ABOUT JESUS OF NAZARETH, MIRACLE WONDERMAN, HERO OF FOOLS
i love Neely's performance but can you imagine if they got Gillan to be in the movie like they planned? the kino would be off he charts
LOOK AT ALL MY TRIALS AND TRIBULATIONS
SINKING IN A GENTLE POOL OF WINE
As a kid I thought Herod actor was the same as the fat guy from Jurassic Park
I'm aware that's not a thumb, on closer inspection
Coz he ain't found shit.
I didn't know so many actual genuine homosexuals frequented this board.
oh shi I found one
I will show you fear in a handful of dust.