What the frick was his problem?
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He was strong in the Force but found by a Sith.
Was he? I don't recall Maul really using the force at all in the movie. He was just an extremely skilled fighter. It was only in the Clone Wars show where they showed him being strong with the force.
Just being hard to kill by a force user makes you strong in the force. It's why Vader says "the force is strong with this one" when hes trying to shoot at Luke's Xwing during the trench run. Saying someone is strong in the force doesn't really have much to do with someone's space wizard spellcasting powerlevel
he used it once or twice. he threw a droid at a door switch to deactivate it.
Being able to fight and kill a Jedi Master means he's pretty damn strong with the Force
Also he does Force push Obi-Wan into the pit at the end
>Being able to fight and kill a Jedi Master means he's pretty damn strong with the Force
Are you sure about that? They all died like b***hes to clones in Episode 3.
Palpatine had already created anakin. At this point all his apprentices were just disposable placeholders until he could turn vader
Maul was found long before Anakin was born.
Yes but by the time of phantom menace. Maul was disposable to palpatine
Bad prosthetics.
He shouldn't have been resurrected, he's a fricking eunuch.
My homie just didnt wanna die
He's in a bad trilogy.
One of the most kino character designs of all time. The tattoos are incredible.
*DRUM MACHINE STARTS*
He should have been in all three prequels
You can't sleep comfortably with a crown of horns.
>mfw he actually has a British accent and robo-spiderlegs and runs the Galactic Mafia and is also the King of Mandalor and wielder of the Dark Saber. He is eventually re-murdered by Obi-Wan. His brother's name is Savage Opress. He wasn't a very good apprentice but he was a good friend.
tbf peter serafinowicz is english too.
Can't justify the rest though lmao
And this doesn't even make the top 5 of Star Wars's bullshit additions.
He has a vaguely Mid-Atlantic accent in TPM in his one speaking scene.
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most kino moment in the entire prequels
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>ive actually lived long enough to see pop culture degrade so far that the phantom menace now looks like art in comparison
weird feel to be honest
isn't this just the obvious argument for why the prequels are better than the sequels? Real choreography?
I'm just referring to the part where they are facing each other separated by the gate
Maul moving like predatory animal staring at its prey and qui-gon in a meditative pose
the contrast is a great
What's the reason for the contrast?
does it really require an explanation?
good vs evil
sith vs jedi
you know all that
So why do I need to know it again? Why have the laser doors at all? Just have Obi-Wan get the shit kicked out of him and pass out, then wake up and run to the fight but be too late, while still witnessing Qui-Gon's defeat from a distance.
I mean yeah, it's a nice contrast, but by that point in the movie (let alone the entire series) it's unnecessary, and the context is moronic.
So what the frick was the point of the laser doors? Just to showcase that contrast, that everybody already knows?
>Why do movies emphasize important themes?
Honestly kys you dumb Black person
not every scene, every line or every character movement has to teach you new information in a movie... sometimes it's about calling back to thing you already know in a different context, this should go without saying
I think you're overintellectualizing it, I just thought it was a nice little moment that builds up tension
I suppose that's fair, even if I don't agree 100%. Like I mentioned, the scene might have worked in better context. The tension was pretty built up at that point, I mean it's the end of the movie.
Just something other than the laser doors. Hell, have it be something like in The Princess Bride, where both combatants stop to let the other catch their breath, or have Qui-Gon attempt to negotiate with Maul as a trick, offering to join him, something like that. Something, anythi- Oh... it's a video game door that makes no sense and actually contradicts a scene from the beginning of the film.
Just feels like a lazy scene for how little importance it has. Even the visuals aren't unique, just recycled from what we've already seen before, but now bigger. It's no different than the Sequels in that regard, with their super Death Star.
>The Jedis are like monks, try to control emotions
>Sith literally don't care about controlling emotions and lean into unleashing them
How fricking moronic are you?
>>The Jedis are like monks, try to control emotions
Well they fricking suck at it, because Jedi are (ironically) the most hostile and first to light their sabers in the majority of duels. Also note that Qui-Gon immediately goes on the offensive and looks like a madman when the laser door opens. Then he gets fricking gutted lmao. Nice emotion control, gay. Also
>Why do movies hit me over the head every five seconds with a storytelling theme as old as the hills
Was the real question. Just get on with the duel, homie, we already know these characters and their factions, as little that there is to know about them.
Alright if I'm being honest, the only point of that laser door scene is to separate Obi Wan from Qui Gon so that Obi Wan can watch Qui Gon get cut down and then use his dark side rage to beat Darth Maul but you probably already knew that and decided to pivot to "why did they extend this scene?" It's more interesting if some capricious force like "core room automated doors" prevents the padawan from saving his master. God you're fricking moronic
Sure, but I mentioned both these aspects. How the laser doors make no sense, and even offered a option to still have Obi-Wan see Qui-Gon die. Also again, the Jedi are fricking gay, because Obi-Wan wins with his "dark side rage". Although I guess you could argue he wins by thinking about the situation and remembering Qui-Gon's lightsaber. Although he got pretty lucky that Maul just stood there like a moron.
Goddamn, what a stupid ass sequence carried entirely by the score.
I don't think choreography is really the problem with the sequels. The inept throne room kerfuffle in TLJ is genuinely embarrassing, but I think that's more on editing and Johnson decision to hold it on a wide that sinks it more than the choreography or even the effort of the actors. I don't think he thought through what he was asking of guys dressed like lobsters that could barely see.
Not him but I'd agree with you. Choreography never seems as much an issue as like you said, the editing.
Also there's the minor issue on never giving a frick about any of the characters, but that applies to the Prequels as well.
Also the music. I know John Williams was like 120 at the time, but I genuinely can't remember a single musical piece from the Sequels. The Prequels had that going for them, and the OT really.
I think people underestimate music's importance in film. When a script is weak or the scene makes no sense visually, music can be a powerful manipulator, ironically. Just look at The Throne Room? That shit made no sense, but Williams' score during that twelve seconds when Luke loses it makes the entire sequence.
Spielberg and Lucas would be nowhere without Williams.
>Korah Matah KORAH RAHTAHMAH
Imagine not seeing this in theaters.
>When they inexplicably have Maul on the ledge and they do nothing and then Obi-Wan nods forward and back and exclaims "ugh"
I'm glad the Prequels exist, they're fricking hilarious
>Obi-wan lunges forward and back
That's called a feint you moron. Maul positioned himself on the edge to fool the Jedi into thinking he was in a far worse position than he really was in, and Obi-wan feinted trying to call out Maul's bluff positioning.
If anything you've shown how low IQ you are for not understanding one of the simplest aspects of a fight written by George Lucas, you were outsmarted by George Lucas you fricking moron.
>mfw my brain had memoryholed Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan force running away from droids at the beginning
He knew that everyone could see that his horns where childishly glued on, so always being self conscious made him prone to violently lashing out.
>ITS OVER OBI WAN. I HAVE THE HIGH GROUND.
Maul should have been a recurring villain but Lucas needed Dooku and Grievous to sell more toys
Unironically he would've been great as a recurring villain throughout the Prequels who gets beaten and rebuilt each episode, pretty much in the same way he does in the EU/Cartoons.
You could have Spider-Maul. Then by the end maybe he looks similar to Grievous (who wouldn't exist, mind you) but with Maul's color scheme. Just like Pokémon evolutions. Probably would've sold a lot more than fricking Dooku, I mean who cared about his character? He's just some old dude with ambiguous motives, if any.
Would have also been good addition to the running theme of how the dark side fricks you up physically and the whole “grievous was just a prototype Vader” thing Lucas mentioned in the behind the scenes stuff
>Dooku
Dooku was just Lucas indulging in a Dracula reference. There are connections you can draw to Vader, but that doesn't really justify the character since Anakin's Vader transformation is shoehorned anyway.
Wasn't Dracula literally part of Dooku's council meeting?
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his horns really look like shit, they really couldn't do a better job than hotglueing them to his head?
the lead designer in the prequels was a big downgrade from Ralph Mcquarrie
it's not the design that is the problem it's the makeup artist
Does he have black skin with red tattoos or red skin with black tattoos?
what kind of red ink would show up like that over black skin?
someone tattooed his head and superglued horns on it
Maul wasn’t a true sith. He was only ever trained to be an assassin and weapon to use against the Jedi. Not as an apprentice to be taught deeper dark side powers
When you think about it. The fact Maul defeated a powerful master like Qui Gon shows how well trained in combat be was.
Also Maul’s whole backstory where he was basicslly kidnapped by Palpatine to be used makes him inherently sympathetic. He never really had a chance.
Hence why he’s so fun to watch when he’s back in clone wars or rebels. Every time he’s a real force to be reckoned with.
I laughed my ass off when he showed up in Rebels as more of a neutral evil, and immediately easily kills a dozen inquisitors. Whom the Jedi and Ashoka had to spend all this time fighting just to defend themselves from. Maul was on another level.
Which makes his final battle with Obi Wan even more telling
Literally why the frick is he not dead and a gangster in Solo? You can't just show dead characters who aren't gagsters as alive and gagsters without explaining it.
He kept himself alive through dark side power. Anger at kenobi and himself. Same way Vader survived mustafar
Total hackery is a pathway to many plot points considered to be moronic.
Wait, Maul is in that movie? As a gangster? Does he have a cigar and Tommy gun?
Solo was supposed to be a trilogy or something but it flopped so they stopped. I guess they would've elaborated it in the sequels.
He didn't the like the horns being superglued to his head.
rip joe rogan
Butthurt he wasn't a mogger like Grievous and Dooku.