Nowadays it's all anyone can live in unless they're a millionaire. Each of the houses in that image would cost $400,000 minimum (keep in mind the Brits split up normal sized houses in two), and that's if they're in a mediocre area.
at least Americans can defend themselves from the hordes of shitskins
in England its literally against the law to use violence on someone breaking into your home
it is a bit of a faux pas tbf. remember the uproar a few years ago when some old killed someone who broke in to his house? there shouldnt have been an uproar full stop
2 years ago
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that was only because he killed a gyppo and their community chimped out over it
2 years ago
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it was an illegally owned shotgun and he shot the guy (kid?) in the back running away from the property. He got 3 years for manslaughter.
Reverse all of those facts and come up with your own conclusions to a potential sentence.
2 years ago
Anonymous
i thought you were talking about that old guy who stabbed a gypsy who broke into his house
2 years ago
Anonymous
Bruv, you get warned for even waving a knife at chavs intruding on your property. https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2010/jan/10/myleene-klass-knife-intruders
Why are you trying to fight this battle when we both know you're on thin ice when trying to defend yourself in this country?
2 years ago
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you have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that you were in fear of your life and it's also expected for you to shout, yell and holla all kinds of prompts and verbal threats at them beforehand more or less egging them on to attack you whilst your odds of defence are at their very lowest. Thin ice indeed but you're allowed to defend your life.
2 years ago
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UK citizens are basically the property of the state. What we get for giving up our defense rights and embracing socialism.
2 years ago
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Tony Martin did NOTHING WRONG and is one of Norfolk's finest
2 years ago
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I was still baffled and pissed when that woman was murdered by the MET officer and there was so much hysteria and shit like new police bills expanding their powers, more funding, etc. and one batshit claim that men must abide by a curfew. And there I was seething over the fact none of the discourse even from oridinary people was about expanding the defense rights of the citizens. Allow people, which includes women, to buy shit like tazers and have knives to deal with attackers, as a mild step in that direction. We are so cucked as a people. Mere cattle of the nanny state.
2 years ago
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i just started taking notice of how disproportionately a police officer seems more likely to carry out statistically this kind of crime against a woman of late compared to the rates of the general public and yet it was the regular blokes of the citizenry who got all the lectures
2 years ago
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Reaction to that murder was a lefty psy-op to counter the proposed increase in anti-protest powers of the police. Really quite disgraceful.
>unless they're a millionaire
Haven't Bongs basically been priced out of living in the areas quintessentially English and that makes England English (the villages, Victorian cojoined town houses) by rich foreigners? I've long felt like Bongland, to the billionaire globohomosexual elite, is some type of holiday home.
>What a depressing, soulless shit hole.
That's like me saying there's no beauty or soul in Murica because I watched the Full Force YouTube doc on airsoftfatty, or saying France is ugly all over because of some shitty concrete jungle invested by blacks and Muslims. UK, like those places, has miserable soulless shitholes that are dystopia and some beautiful soulful places. You come across to me as a foreign who's opinion on the country is informed by Cinemaphile memes
nah I'm afraid 90% of the lived in areas of the country are like this. There are a few nice villages/cities but these are small pockets where no normal person can afford to live (and if they do, they'll live in an area of it like these pics). The UK is one of the ugliest countries in the world to begin with, then add in how we get only a few weeks of sunshine per year. An utter hellscape.
I've mainly experienced places like that as the outer suburds of cities like Manchester or something or aspects of market towns and villains (but not what they look like in their entirety).
>The UK is one of the ugliest countries in the world to begin with, then add in how we get only a few weeks of sunshine per year. An utter hellscape.
Nothing wrong with minimal sunshine!
The crazy thing is, wasn't renown for being absolutely beautiful little over a century ago? I remember reading a book on the lead up to WWI from Britain and Germany's perspective and the impressions on England, from how the gentry lived to normal people, was positive. Like the "green and pleasant land" thing the guy I'm replying to is using sarcastically as totally true until about post-WW2 - then the island got paved over and raped with concrete
WW2 was the final nail but the shittiest places have been shitty since/because of the industrial revolution, living in a mill town a century ago was a WH40K tier nightmare reality
2 years ago
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>living in a mill town a century ago was a WH40K tier nightmare reality
Details?
2 years ago
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well, for one houses didn't have a source of water, there was a point on the street in each section where people had access to their sanitary needs, as well as water they would take to use for bathing and cooking in the hearth. this would persist in some neighborhoods well into the 20th century
2 years ago
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well, for one houses didn't have a source of water, there was a point on the street in each section where people had access to their sanitary needs, as well as water they would take to use for bathing and cooking in the hearth. this would persist in some neighborhoods well into the 20th century
Look at this shit. It's hard to imagine life being even worse than it is now in the UK, but it was. The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
2 years ago
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I still can’t comprehend how during the peak of the industrial revolution, London’s air was on average so thick and grey/black from all the pollution that you sometimes could hardly see past your outstretched arms
2 years ago
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ok ted
2 years ago
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>muh obsession with aesthetics and the built environment
They were still nearly entirely ethnically homogeneous. What was done to the people themselves during the post-industrial period was vastly worse.
south english villages and especially the countryside are still regarded as beautiful. I once took a train from Birmingham to Oxford and it was a beautiful sight. I think the biggest problem with the UK is just the general decline and centralization of their whole economy to revolve around London. If you compare dutch buildings and houses for example you see how well maintained british houses can look really beautiful
2 years ago
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Yeah Birmingham has always been nasty. Manchester was dystopian. I've always liked Oxford. Like even in the 'grottier' areas I find it kind of kino and soulful. Same deal with York. I've also liked the vibe of Norwich - even as there's some brutalist piece of shit office complex within my field of vision.
2 years ago
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Oxbridge in general is quite beautiful and always worth a visit. I had the luck to visit a former friend of mine who was studying at Oxford and we could walk through the university grounds which was quite impressive for a continental like me
The UK was once beautiful, shit like the shire in Hobbit was the norm; based on the English countryside. Three things conspired to ruin it: first the industrial revolution, then the Nazis bombing the shit out of us and destroying so much beautiful architecture, and finally 1960s planners erecting brutalist monstrosities in their place, in some cases knocking down beautiful buildings and replacing them for no reason. Pic related.
>The UK is one of the ugliest countries in the world to begin with, then add in how we get only a few weeks of sunshine per year. An utter hellscape.
Nothing wrong with minimal sunshine!
It's truly awful. Have you experienced living somewhere like that?
2 years ago
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funny thing about all that is people might first think the war deleted these nicer structures
2 years ago
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>1960s planners erecting brutalist monstrosities in their place
existentialism was a mistake
2 years ago
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50/60s British architects were a crime against humanity. Thankfully people are walking up to that fact and are pulling a lot of their bullshit down.
2 years ago
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I hate brutalism with a passion
2 years ago
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>1960s planners erecting brutalist monstrosities in their place
existentialism was a mistake
>evil brutalism shills
Most had no idea it would end up that way. They thought it was progress. You have to put yourself in the shoes of a decision maker during the mid 20th century and everything they had seen in their lifetime. At it's peak, you're talking about people who had seen the world go from horse-and-buggy to setting foot on the moon in their living memory. It was insane.
So they got a little overzealous and developed certain biases towards 'progress' and assumed all the benefits but none of the downsides. They had no frame of reference for how all that architecture would age. They just assumed it would be space-age clean and efficient and well-maintained forever. But brutalism DOESN'T age well. It just looks evil. By the time that became apparent, the people who inflicted were dying off and the people who knew how to build the old way were already dead with no one to take their places because everyone took the "progress" meme a generation earlier.
The still-standing corpse towns, built in service to industry, were allowed to rot and fester. They've been dumping grounds for mass immigration, testing grounds for new Government projects, the subject of studies, and forgotten dumps seen as inconsequential. Think of Detroit after the they built the highway and the manufacturers left. Everything went to shit.
2 years ago
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What, like Milton Keynes?
2 years ago
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Milton Keynes was a good idea.
2 years ago
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How so?
A lot of the Southwest is still like that. Idyllic, truly a time capsule of preindustrial Britain. But it's not going to last, multiculturalism has started to noticeably take its toll on the small towns
Details? Most I know in this area was some perturbing headline from last year b***hing about the countryside being 99% white and how this must stop, but I don't know anything beyond some anti-white leftist piece of shit expressing such sentiments.
2 years ago
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>How so?
Building a town in an empty patch of land rather than totally fricking up a town that already exists will always be better regardless of how shit the new town ended up being or how shit the town that was spared the metaphorical axe is.
Tourism industry? I have not been to Burford in some years but every summer, lots of Jap tourists there. Modern Oxford is filled to the brim with foreign tourists. Basically robbing these places of the sleep quiet vibes that made them so kino in the first place
2 years ago
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It's just blatant, especially during the past two years. it's obvious that they've been shipping them like crazy to non-cities during the pandemic, they're suddenly fricking everywhere and the NHS has become completely unusable it's so overloaded.
I live in a higher income area and it's obvious by the look of them that they can't afford to be here, government's helping them out. A mainstream news outlet said that our population has increased by like 3.5 million within the last few years, it's not difficult to figure out what's going on. That's about the entire population of Wales
2 years ago
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Unironically, what's the endgame here?
2 years ago
Anonymous
A similar thing happens over here in burgerland. Black families pop up in areas I know damn well they can't afford to live in. Been going on for a while now though.
Unironically, what's the endgame here?
Forced diversity
2 years ago
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>Forced diversity
But what motivates that from the Boris premiership?
2 years ago
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It's all been the same shit since Blair, probably prior to then
2 years ago
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I'm still curious as to the root motivation. I know it's happening but what's the explanation? Is it shit spiralling out of control in an initial attempt to combat the aging population and systems that would have came crashing down without new workers? Only for it to then get worse because a lot of them also claim government gibs?
2 years ago
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We were rich so from 1950-2000 we gave up domestic industry and bought what we needed from the third world. As other countries developed their purchasing power grew, pushing up prices on energy and goods. We coasted for a while but it's been catching up with us slowly but surely. Our economy is massively service aka stuff that the middle classes are good at, leaving the working class relying on handouts from them. Menial jobs still need doing but Brits are so used to a small amount of pounds going a long way that they won't do them without getting paid enough to achieve the same level of comfort. Hence immigrants being brought in to wipe disabled arses, pick fruit and clean offices.
If I wasn't pissed I could have laid this argument out better, but that's basically it. Hard to see how this improves.
2 years ago
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>Hard to see how this improves.
Total collapse? We've inherited a uniquely fricked up world and I think the western world is in for very hard times. Either that or America has some kino reversal of fortunes and we jump ship as Britain sinks deeper and deeper into a sea of shit
2 years ago
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Blair opened the floodgates.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Lack of social cohesion will trend voters towards more self-interested voting. They will increasingly vote Tory. Thirty years or so of this already and it's quite obviously working.
>York
Last time I was in York town centre was 2020. Didn't notice many nogs, even in summer when shit opened back up again and everyone was out and about enjoying things.
The literal centre is still kinda ok, because it's not a traditional city centre and just really services the tourists. Slightly further out just beyond the bar walls in any direction is fricking dire now, though.
2 years ago
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Specific areas that are now dire?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Bootham, and not just The Groves which has always been shit. Walmgate (even inside the bar) and out along Hull Road. Rawcliffe is pretty bad now. Most of the still nice areas are south, Fulford/Bishopthorpe area because they were always expensive with a lower ratio of council houses.
2 years ago
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What was Walmgate and Hull Road like before? I must have arrived in York for university after they had declined. I never had any issues with Walmgate or Hull Road but to read someone regard them as declining massively surprises me I guess. I never lived in a city prior to this big decline you mention. Was Tang Hall also grotty when you lived there? Rented a house there in 2nd year. I actually liked it - in the sense of 'it's a shithole but it's our shithole' and I had good times in the house we rented there. Huge blackberry bush in the garden - I was able to fill up several tupperwares worth of blackberries and give a box to the elderly neighbours for them to use in a cake or crumble or something.
2 years ago
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Yeah tang hall has forever been that way, right back to the eighties at least. Honestly the difference is only apparent because I return every couple of years. If you're living in it you'd barely notice.
2 years ago
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Well I guess the simple answer is white genocide but in reality I'm not quite sure.
A lot of the Southwest is still like that. Idyllic, truly a time capsule of preindustrial Britain. But it's not going to last, multiculturalism has started to noticeably take its toll on the small towns
This country never spiritually recovered from the second world war. We had basically built an identity out of our preeminence in just about everything you can think of, and then we took a beating in the early war and had to rely on America to survive. It was an unimaginable trauma to people who grew up thinking Britain was the greatest power in the world. We went from victors of the great war with the largest and richest empire in history and the most civilly and technically advanced society in the world to getting steamrolled in France and losing Singapore in a week to what was perceived as a second rate power in Japan. The latter particularly broke the image of Britain as a great world dominating power overseas. Every colony saw how easily Singapore fell. And it wasn't taken back by British arms, either, but surrendered at the end of the war by a treaty the Americans made. Getting bailed out by the USA perhaps did even more damage to the country's reputation and self perception than the military defeats, as it showed how we had been usurped. No wonder the Empire disintegrated after that. Modern Bongland originates from this cultural death.
2 years ago
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Yeah, the change to the character of British people does get my curiosity. Like look at BBC political shows or game show shit nowadays with people like fricking Owen Jones or Jo Coburn, and then compare then with British people from the 30's-60's. They seemed so superior to us, in character, dignity, presence, and all things. A total erosion of soul and character and psyche.
2 years ago
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I've noticed this too. With the death of people like Ian Mckellen and Attenborough, something will have been lost forever. No one on to compete with them has been born for 50 years.
2 years ago
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>This country never spiritually recovered from the second world war.
America also took premeditated steps to completely undermine the British Empire at almost every step of the 20th century. That was unhelpful. The 'special relationship' is an abusive one.
2 years ago
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The most I'm aware of is America cucking the shit out of Anthony Eden when it came to Suez. Other examples? I'd laugh if JFK is also responsible for a bunch of shit rarely mentioned. He did come from a world where tensions between Anglo-Protestants and Irish-Catholics were far more pronounced.
2 years ago
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Fricked over the good thing going with the Anglo-Persian Oil Company once they'd gotten what they needed out of British intelligence to pull off the coup and were the new king makers.
2 years ago
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WW1 is said to have been one of the major factors. Diving into the defence of a war-mad nation over what was, in effect, a trivial, parochial dispute. Everything snowballed, thousands were left dead in a ditch - lads who should have been here breeding like rabbits - and post-war arrangements leading us down the dark path to WW2. I know the lefties are a bunch of slags, but they're on to something when they say the country isn't "real." We've been cosplaying as ourselves for decades. History is now just a television show and a tourist attraction. We're a bland, economic province, just like many Western nations.
2 years ago
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At least our economy doesn't tank and totally implode just because the tourism industry has slowed down. ie Sri Lanka. But marketing your prestige and history is the slippery slope.
2 years ago
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fast forward 80 years and 'young british lads' are shitposting on an American website devoted to American culture (and weeb homosexualry) whilst trying to get their smug energy up by spamming "do Americans really?" and pretending that they're not completely culturally conquered and utterly obsessed about it.
2 years ago
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>"do Americans really?"
Wait, do people here actually get riled up about it? I always thought it was light ribbing over wacky/stupud shit that takes place in other countries. I've never gotten riled up over 'do bongs really?' posts
2 years ago
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Anon try actually paying attention. the trend of "ribbing" on America is just too out of place compared to how it used to be. Somewhere around 2015-2016 is ramped up so suddenly and so consistently that I can only imagine it's some intentional spam campaign by an outside party.
2 years ago
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Yes, your "good natured ribbing" of your cousins across the pond over the past ~5 years has become China/Israel/Russia/Discord troony/whoever's "identified pressure point" with which to spam "smug" anti-american propaganda in literally every. single. thread. It's been ramping up dramatically over the past year especially.
Everything beyond towns looks gorgeous must of the time, it's the urbanised areas that look like trash. That said, most of the town's/cities have rubbish areas which are occupied mostly by rubbish people, but quite often it's balanced by lovely looking neighbourhoods. Too bad the dwellings are often less then worthy of their listing price, property market here is a scam and British houses/flats are often of poor quality when compared to their continental counterparts.
t. Used to work as a surveyor for an engineering company
Bongpunk results in artsy but miserable dystopian thrillers like Children of men. Burgerpunk should, theoretically, result in absurdist dark comedies/satires. I'm struggling to think of examples. Would Office Space count?
>the Wales, Cardiff pic
Reminds of some York suburbs. Lovely city and has some nice housing areas but has the typical miserable Bong streets like that also
True enough, my international friend. Most are actually of pretty decent size and quality. Some, of course, aren't. The issue, is that a sizeable portion of people treat them like toilets.
True enough, my international friend. Most are actually of pretty decent size and quality. Some, of course, aren't. The issue, is that a sizeable portion of people treat them like toilets.
A friend of mine from Yorkshire lived in something that looked similar to OP's. Dunno if it was council housing exactly, I guess I'd call it a duplex. He had crackheads living right next to him, according to him. He bought a house in a slightly better area for a pretty decent price but it was a complete fixer-upper. Like new walls, floors, etc. in every room.
Nowadays it's all anyone can live in unless they're a millionaire. Each of the houses in that image would cost $400,000 minimum (keep in mind the Brits split up normal sized houses in two), and that's if they're in a mediocre area.
Are most people pretty much priced out of the comfy small seaside towns these days?
>Are most people pretty much priced out of the comfy small seaside towns these days?
Yeah, those places are either trashy as hell and miserable as people don't go there anymore instead opting to go on vacation to Spain, or actually nice but places where only London ~~*investment bankers*~~ and Chinese billionaires own anything.
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is it expensive for bongs to move to another country?
Literally impossible for most people now due to Brexit. Americans tend to think it's easy to move there but it's actually insanely difficult even if you're a techbro. I'd give anything to move.
To be fair, most Americans think you can just up and move to any country anywhere for any reason.
I feel like it's a bell curve thing. Being some ugly chav living in a place like [...] is truly awful. You're like a Mordor orc. But then imagine being some handsome rich Chad like Sam Claflin or Henry Cavill. Then it's absolutely kino being a Bong - you get to enjoy a lot of the great stuff the island has to offer, people like Americans love that type of Bong and perceive them as suave and intelligent, etc.
Well, being rich generally solves most problems, no matter where you're from
Isn't getting burger citizenship notoriously hard unless you're some 3rd worlder that the Federal government is obsessed with dumping into white areas?
2 years ago
Anonymous
that's not far from the truth
2 years ago
Anonymous
The Somalis and some state settled heavily by Scandis come to mind. Minnesota, was it?
2 years ago
Anonymous
some were settled there, and they they told their friends, now they're all fricking here
2 years ago
Anonymous
Your community has been enriced by future doctors and astronauts
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not terribly difficult if you get married to a burger. It's a lot of paperwork and fees, and nerve-wracking, but otherwise not that bad. I'd read that it was supposed to get a little easier or more streamlined under le orange man but I don't know if that happened or not.
2 years ago
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You've experienced it? Also, Biden is an extremely petty person and plastic paddy, so he's got that generational/ancestral hateboner for England, and, I guess by extension, the American Founders who were overwhelmingly WASP
2 years ago
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Yeah, my wife immigrated about 12 years ago. Wasn't difficult, just expensive really more than anything. She's fully naturalized now. Of course she came from a nice white country (well...it used to be) so she probably got less scrutiny than if I'd married say, someone from the middle east. You do need to have a decent job and a stable financial situation to prove you can sponsor the person immigrating.
2 years ago
Anonymous
trouble with marrying burgers is the ones in bongistan tend to have the same grass is greener complex and don't want to take some cynical and pasty skinnyfat called callum back to the us of a
Ops house is one of those "decent houses, terrible people" estates.
I live in one of those. Great house with large bedrooms, huge garden, stone larder and a nice green out front.
The people are utter shit though. Neighbours who threaten to kill each other, One neighbour who treats the street as his personal garage and had 5-6 non-running cars dotted around (he's one of those people who buys cars with blown head gaskets etc. that can't be repaired without expensive parts in the belief he can fix them on the cheap), brats for kids. White vans and house clearance trucks everywhere.
nah I'm afraid 90% of the lived in areas of the country are like this. There are a few nice villages/cities but these are small pockets where no normal person can afford to live (and if they do, they'll live in an area of it like these pics). The UK is one of the ugliest countries in the world to begin with, then add in how we get only a few weeks of sunshine per year. An utter hellscape.
is it expensive for bongs to move to another country?
If you have a degree, there's always Korea and Japan. That's pretty much it though. EU is difficult now, America / Canada are difficult unless you have a certain job.
You're saying it's easy to move to Japan and Korea? Or are you just talking about teaching English, which sounds like a pretty rough/poorly paid gig? Japan is famously monocultural so I can't imagine it can be that easy to go there.
I've lived in the US (Atlanta and small town California), Germany, Sweden, Denmark, Nigeria, Sierra Leonoe, Iceland and Fremantle Australia.
The only country that's better than the UK is Iceland. Iived in Sweden from 03 to 06 it was better back then but not anymore, of course.
Swarthy people make all the difference (despite the fact my experiences with Mexicans in Cali were overwhelmingy positive and that they are hardworking family types).
I feel like it's a bell curve thing. Being some ugly chav living in a place like
nah I'm afraid 90% of the lived in areas of the country are like this. There are a few nice villages/cities but these are small pockets where no normal person can afford to live (and if they do, they'll live in an area of it like these pics). The UK is one of the ugliest countries in the world to begin with, then add in how we get only a few weeks of sunshine per year. An utter hellscape.
is truly awful. You're like a Mordor orc. But then imagine being some handsome rich Chad like Sam Claflin or Henry Cavill. Then it's absolutely kino being a Bong - you get to enjoy a lot of the great stuff the island has to offer, people like Americans love that type of Bong and perceive them as suave and intelligent, etc.
Any living Englishman as kino as him? Christopher Lee and Cushing have long been dead also. Like we meme fondly on Henry Cavill for being an /our guy/ autist but he's got nowhere near the character the previous three men I mentioned had
He's the person that comes to mind when I think of the 'English gentleman' archetype. He makes you lament that you yourself did not grow up to also be such genuinely good gentle hearted person.
It depressed me reading his bio on Wikipedia about how he changed so much after his wife died. Dude got seriously depressed and seemed to have lost all will to live.
>In 1971 Cushing's wife died of emphysema; they had been married since 1943. Cushing often said he felt his life had ended when hers did,[9] and he was so crushed that when his first autobiography was published in 1986, it made no mention of his life after her death.[26] In 1972, he was quoted in the Radio Times as having said, "Since Helen passed on I can't find anything; the heart, quite simply, has gone out of everything. Time is interminable, the loneliness is almost unbearable and the only thing that keeps me going is the knowledge that my dear Helen and I will be reunited again some day. To join Helen is my only ambition. You have my permission to publish that ... really, you know, dear boy, it's all just killing time. Please say that."[153]
>In his autobiography, Cushing implies that he attempted suicide on the night of his wife's death by running up and down stairs in the vain hope that it would induce a heart attack. He later stated that this had simply been a hysterical response borne out of grief, and that he had not purposely attempted to end his life; a poem left by Helen had implored him not to die until he had lived his life to the full.[149]
>The effects of his wife's death proved to be as much physical as mental. For his role in Dracula A.D. 1972, Cushing (who was 58) had originally been cast as the father of Stephanie Beacham's character, but had aged so visibly and lost so much weight that the script was hastily rewritten to make him her grandfather: it was done again in the last Dracula film from Hammer, The Satanic Rites of Dracula.
You definitely can never truly disassociate America from Britain and vice versa. The fricking Founders WERE ethnically British bar a few like John Jay. There world was a British one curated to a new setting/context.
honestly a direct comparison is silly, but the parallels in the ideological reaction to traditional british culture and values between the two is pretty interesting.
it's British anti-authoritarianism in general. Americans generally don't know that we beheaded our own king more than 100 years before the American Revolution, then only failed at Parliamentary Democracy and went back to consitutional monarchy because none of the concepts had even developed yet.
the english civil war is sadly not as emphasized in curriculum as it once might have been
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I was always annoyed by the b***hing about how we didn't teach muh ebils of the Empire because when I was in school a lot of the wins were not taught either. For my money, the history courses were not tailed to some homosexual political agenda. It was a mix. We had shit about the slave trade and emancipation next to English Civil War, Industrial Revolution, etc. GCSE's were to my memory American West and medicine through time and A-level was War of Roses, Protestant Reformation, Elizabethan England, and Russia from like 1890's to 1960's
This man convinced me to give Jack and Coke a go and it ranks as one of my favourites. There's something about getting wasted on that combo whilst blasting Motorhead and smoking a few that you don't get with shit like gin and tonic or some rum and mixer concoction.
I'm a a total shut in so I feel like being a good looking fitgay in Britain of all places, there's a lot of ways for me to leverage my looks that haven't quite occurred to me yet.
>this is where the people calling America a shithole live
Never forget that. It is always jealousy. Always. I live remarkably lower-middle income in the US and I could not even fathom something as disgusting, packed in, and dirty as that.
That's literally one of the most notoriously shitty urban districts in America. It's a meme. It's not reflective of the country as a whole or even the city it's in.
like for like. That clip doesn't even reflect urban ghettos across the country (or even if L.A.). It's notoriously shitty. It's like wanting to shit on row houses and picking the worst street in Camden, NJ or Baltimore.
Can you describe where you live? I don't hate or shittalk America either here or in real life so I'm curious. Aren't a lot of urban blue Americans going to relate to Bong/Euro living though?
The BBC Scotland documentUary "The Scheme" is vital viewing. It will be 90% indecipherable to everyone who isn't Scottish but it worth a watch to see how life is in the shit parts of Scotland.
Probably quite a few memes from it are possible but it was shown before memes were a thing I think
Probably YouTube has some of the best bits as highlights
This just finished and was really good. Very few darkies in case you're racist, mildly pozzed political message but not too bad. Strong acting and dialogue for the few among you who care for such old-fashioned qualities
I moved away from the UK fifteen years ago and still revisit periodically to see family. Holy FRICK has it gone downhill in that amount of time. Even the lovely tourist places, like Harrogate or York, are now nog-infested overpopulated shitholes and getting rapidly worse. Doesn't matter where you are in a town or city, 2am you'll have some louts arguing somewhere in the mile radius and have to listen to it.
People who live there all the time don't see it, but as an occasional returnee it's clear as day. Like boiled frogs innit.
It's gonna be truly horrific in another five years or so.
>York
Last time I was in York town centre was 2020. Didn't notice many nogs, even in summer when shit opened back up again and everyone was out and about enjoying things.
Whites are being hounded, so to speak. Not even saying the non-whites/foreigners have some aggressive conscious agenda to do so, a lot of it is self interest because why wouldn't you want to live in England compared to where they previously came from + being herded by globohomosexual government/elites. But the point is this, move to Northumberland and it's only a matter of time till they come after you. Nowhere is sacred.
>it's only a matter of time till they come after you
Sadly true. Undesirable people move in, whites move out, politicians complain about "white flight" and the cycle just repeats itself.
bunch of typical moaning bongs in this thread. you love misery and you love to complain, so you love being here. if you really hate it, frick off, a UK passport is a golden ticket, go dig wells in Uganda or something.
this is the essence of Britishness and I love every minute of it.
it's become a cliche here to complain about the weather despite us having probably the most pleasant, livable climate on earth. it's literally a miracle how we manage to have so little perspective.
>the most pleasant, livable climate on earth
There's no way you can seriously believe this. Grey skies 24/7 is not pleasant. Brits complain a lot because we live in the most miserable, disgusting and grey country in the developed world. You don't want it to be too hot but some balance would be good; for me, probably eastern USA or the med.
-10 in winter +30 summer + humidity? no frick off. the only way yanks manage to survive in the US is by guzzling energy to control the temperatures indoors.
>muh lack of sunshine
Climate makes the people. The UK and Europe's climate made civilized people. As does Japans. Give the Khoisan technology and protection from raiding black Africans and eventually they would have conquered the continent instead of white Europeans. The Maori of New Zealand would have developed in interesting ways given the time but they weren't there nearly long enough. Same for Tazmania. The climate makes the people.
Would take too long and thread is kaput. Just read Guns, Germs, and Steel (or watch the doc) and pretend an utterly Judaized cuck didn't write it (or be aware that one did) and make alterations where necessary. Look at Koppen climate classification and draw some inferences. We are human animals. We adapt. Climate makes the people.
As other anons said, it's probably not a bad place to live, and I live in Dublin Ireland too which I'm not sure you could say is better, certainly not weatherwise.
And yet the UK street scenes like in this thread instill this nearly existential feeling of dread
The colder and wetter weather just makes everything seem worse, but what I've learned over the years is that everywhere has shithole towns and neighbourhoods, and the places that seem to have less like Japan are just more draconian. Instead of being obviously shit like UK council estates, all the poor people and alcoholics end up in a single district, sleeping under motorways and passing out in the middle of the road.
The fundamental problem is too many people in not enough land. A good example that fits what you're talking about - Singapore. Tons of people, but a veneer of niceness, because it's policed with a iron fist.
There are very few places left with good quality of living and low populations, and they're only surviving that way because they're very hostile to immigration.
I live in Seoul. Amazing place at least in my opinion, I was born in Manchester and lived most of my life on a council estate in Leicester however, so take my opinion with a handful of salt maybe.
Rent is cheap, housing quality is, in my experience, superior to England. I lived in Kent for a few years and I had to deal with paying £900 a month for a converted office between a drug dealer and a Nigerian woman that abused her kid every day. None of that here.
Despite the distinct lack of spontaneous crime, less angry people and the fact your money seems to go much further, there are tiny things I never thought of in England. One big one is that basically anywhere I've had to go in Asia, Shanghai, Seoul and Tokyo (the former and latter just quick week holidays mind) you can suddenly be hit with this horrendous drain smell. Another one is air quality, even in these miserable little towns in England, the air is great. In Seoul I'll often blow my nose and black shit just falls out. Rules are much more draconian too, which probably is why it is nice to live, I am apparently not allowed to go to certain areas, even for a drink, if there is a protest, lest I be caught there, accused of protesting and potentially deported.
I'm sure proximity to china has an effect on your air quality, and maybe the ruinous chemicals churned out and vaporized by the production of semi-conductors in states like south korea and its neighbors.
as someone who was abroad during covid, the British public's complete disregard for any of those bullshit new regulations was something I was envious of
This looks like one of those South American shitworld favellas a week after it was built. Also parts of Mexico and the Caribean. They all looked like this. Then, the new wears off and thanks to zero / corrupt building codes the inhabitants just tack-on whatever they want using whatever they can scrounge, the rot sets in, and you now have your "vibrant" community.
As with almost everything else in UK society, the problem lies with the class system and wealth/opportunity inequality. You can start somewhere like OP's photo and in minutes you're in pic related. Every town above a certain population will have pockets of beautiful civilization, and street upon street of poor motherfrickers who will never get out.
Best analogy I think of is you have a beautiful white canvas and then throw shit at is. Big spots of shit and lots of little speckles now cover the canvas. A lot of pure white canvas is still visible but so is there a lot of shit. It's all intermingled. So too are the nice and shit areas of a city. Someone told me London was weird in that you're in a nice spot, you turn a corner, then another and suddenly it's shitty or weird. My experience totally lined up with that guy's description
What are French demographics? I know there is no race stuff on the census but educated guess?
Anon try actually paying attention. the trend of "ribbing" on America is just too out of place compared to how it used to be. Somewhere around 2015-2016 is ramped up so suddenly and so consistently that I can only imagine it's some intentional spam campaign by an outside party.
You mean like the shitting on Americans for their cars? That rubs me the wrong way too. There's a political element to that as well as national, it's only that Americans have that type of anti-statism/individualism in greater abundance so get picked on by leftygays.
I know as a proportion Whitey has declined, but I want to know if the raw number is as high as projections suggested a few decades ago. Or, has that too diminished?
Easier said than done when the average salary in the UK is about £30k, or $36k. Americans reading this sentence will be baffled and think I made a typo. They make twice that straight out of college. Keswick has no jobs but the houses there cost like £400k ($480k), despite being shit. Such is the case for any of the rare nice places in this c**try.
Actually, if you're a skilled professional in a field with demand, and you're smart enough to intern in your studies, you can pick up a career with that income or better for a start, and in ten year's time you can easily make 20usd in like 15 minutes of work..0
Burgers have big salaries, but they also have big expenses. Health insurance is a big one.
I live in Norway, a "rich" country, and a gross salary here doesn't even touch what someone equivalent in CA or NY makes. $60k is a pretty decent salary here. Net however I think we're fine.
I did. Now I’m four years out of school making $115k. Not a techgay either. I’m an industrial engineer.
How does the socialism keep cs job wages low?
Socialism increases the cost of business. I’m not saying this in a political way. It just does. Socialism generally means higher taxes and regulations on companies. Workers also have more privileges.
This means the US is a much more favorable place to do business. That means more companies here. That means more competition for labor.
Again, I’m not offering a political opinion here. Burgers have less guaranteed vacation and maternity leave and probably unemployment and they at least partially buy their own health insurance. We also make more money and pay fewer taxes.
i looked up the average salary in New York for my girlfriend's job and mine. Pathology co-ordinator and paralegal, we got £43k between us before tax, in Manhattan we'd have around $120k before tax. Every response I had when I mentioned it to others was 'uhhh yeh but NY rent is high!' we could have rented a passable 1 bed flat in the Lower East Side for about $500 more than what we were paying in the South East, not even London.
I make 40K as a dumb frick chippy in London. I have zero qualifications and literally just fell into the job with no experience. Was university worth it?
healthcare and legal jobs are going to get far more because those are both totally cutthroat business operations in the US with no restrictions to prevent making as much money as possible.
the median networth per adult in the US is actually 60% lower than in the UK because everyone rents and inequality is even higher. of course the top 1% is literally megarich not saying it wouldn't make sense for YOU to move with your jobs, but it's not reflective of society as a whole.
Median wealth means little and is just because boomers are benefiting from massively inflated house prices, which fricks over young people. Americans of all professions will massively, massively out earn their British counterparts. It might be better if you're truly poor in the UK, but that's about it.
Try not being a socialist shithole?
It undermines the culture of competition and innovation.
If you look up the 'economic freedom index' you'll see the UK is higher than the US. To call the UK socialist is beyond laughable. The US just has insanely high wages compared to most countries. Switzerland is about the only one that competes.
The north was already then long economically reliant on a dead industry. She only ripped away the bandages that had engorged themselves with much blood to the point of becoming millstones round Britain's neck. Millstones that were Inexorably dragging the nation down into the rank depths of destitution and riot.
Sure would be nice if we had some source of energy now instead of relying on the Russians, no? In any case, if you just immediately pull the rug that entire regions relied on for generations without anything to replace it, it's not going to go well. As a result the north of our country is and always will be a hellscape from now on. Pretty much all our current major problems, and economic collapses which have been in response to deregulating banks, etc., can be traced back to her. Completely gutted society and communities, opened the floodgates of immigrants, etc.
>Americans of all professions will massively, massively out earn their British counterparts.
well, what happens to it all?
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They use it to have greatly better lives than us. Not enough to make up for house prices in the UK doubling every few years though.
>muh economic freedom index
homie literally no one would choose to start a business in the UK over the US
If not, then it'll be because of other reasons like British unproductivity. UK has lower corporation taxes, they have to pay their workers lower, etc. Either way, it shows it's dumb to call the UK socialist.
the government's obsession with carbon footprints has chased away or stymied refineries and even oil extraction in britain sadly. that is artificially ballooning energy costs, the activists and their sort are to blame, not chucking out coal scrubbers thirty million years ago.
We live on an island full of history, but have no connection to it. There's no tradition, no culture. no link to the land. We just sit and consume. Even visiting a castle or stately home is done as a form of consuming, going to a National Trust property and gawping rather than having that history as part of who we are.
They never had a stake but were content in being part of the greater whole but ultimately the working classes have always been marginalised and at the mercy of the generosities of the class system. Socially there is greater equality amongst the classes now. The economic disparity is distributed about the same as it ever was.
But at least you don't have to worry about Dr. Smith spreading libel about you in the town or getting away with whatever shenanigans he likes because he's a doctor and you're all just labourers.
>We live on an island full of history, but have no connection to it. There's no tradition, no culture. no link to the land.
How did people live in, say, the 1910's before the WWI? Genuine question. That was such a different world to one we now inhabit I want to know what tradition/culture they had. Hell, the question I have may be too broad if it subdivided into a lot of local stuff.
The richest people in the UK choose what is important for the country as a whole to remember and hold dear, and since none of their money is actually in the UK, they don't care about it.
Good books on Thatcher? I've seen old Welsh fricks grumble bitterly in the 2010's about how she would have been shot if she showed her face anywhere in the country.
My mum loves that show but I find the those deprived people depressingly trashy.
You also need to consider cost of living in NYC. Think of what a weekly grocery shop will set you back or doctors appointments, dentists etc.
It really isn't even close to enough to make up for it. London is on par with some of the most expensive cities in America, but they still only earn $40ishk on average.
I must have missed the part where her tenure didn't pull the nation from the brink of destitution, socialist collapse, ruin, and armed brigandry
She ushered in the age of globohomo, utterly reliant on london ~~*bankers*~~ and foreigners. She's the reason why the north is so depressing.
I started on 50k out of university.
In the UK? That's wildly above average but would be below average or just ordinary in America.
The north was already then long economically reliant on a dead industry. She only ripped away the bandages that had engorged themselves with much blood to the point of becoming millstones round Britain's neck. Millstones that were Inexorably dragging the nation down into the rank depths of destitution and riot.
I love the climate and architecture of England but I also don't want to get arrested for mean tweets or have my daughter get gangraped by shitskins with the tacit approval of the state.
>climate
Marine climates are actually pretty rare. Your only options are other parts of northwest Europe, the PNW in North America, and Patagonia in South America.
The rest of northwest Europe is just as bad as England, and the other two have shit-tier new world architecture.
>i love the climate
New Zealand. But it's the rich's dirty little secret. They're all going there. Also, parts of Tazmania in Australia share a similar climate. As done the Pacific NW in the US, but it's over-run with commies and fricked up on purpose because the elites dont want white people moving there. The US government literally stored nuclear waste upstream in one of the rivers in order to salt the earth if necessary.
>look it up >"James is a 17-year-old who believes he is a psychopath. He kills animals as a hobby..." >is played by Alex Lawther
Kek, this little frick. Decent actor but he does make my skin crawl. He reminds me of a guy from 6th Form who was an extreme leftist who ended up trooning out. Like he's one of the types who fumed with rage over the idea of pre-teen "trans kids" not being injected with hormones and not having their bits cut off
I think there was a period in late 1990s to 2004 or so where everything clicked again for the UK. Maybe it's just the tv but it seemed like there was a good balance of dreary britishness with a splash of optimism and laidbackness about the future.
I think Spaced displays this the best, kind of coasting about on a few hundred quid in shared accomodation. These days it would be £1000/room + bills, all the deadbeat characters would be priced out of the tv show and it's not like its some friends-tier NY penthouse.
>just checked the spaced house went for sale for £4M
Yes, even children in the far off great lakes had a lot of fun with the music of the spice girls and the nifty bond films with pierce brosnan in the titular roll. A mini renaissance of British soft power in the age of John Major, and Tony Blair.
Your options are: >have rich parents buy you a flat somewhere >get a decent job (you do have one lined up already right?) over 25k and share rent with housemates, have decent quality of life. Eventually move to-> >get a gf and share a 1 bed flat, decent quality of life. Hope you get serious wage growth and save a mortgage >move to norf and buy a house for sub 150k on a reg salary >live at home and throw away 10 years of your life while trying to save a deposit
I'm on year 7 living at home after uni, it's something
well tbf, I get on with the 'rents alright so it's not been too bad.
I also started a business 4 years ago, got RONA'd and only just gotten to the point where things are settled enough for me to consider moving out. Should be out early autumn, although I'm also slightly losing my mind the closer it gets to that point.
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These are what bongs call "council houses", is that right?
Nowadays it's all anyone can live in unless they're a millionaire. Each of the houses in that image would cost $400,000 minimum (keep in mind the Brits split up normal sized houses in two), and that's if they're in a mediocre area.
This lacks the charm of the American burgerpunk genre.
Bong dystopias are intrinsically depressing. Burgerpunk dystopias lean more into the absurdist/surreal because America is such a wacky place.
at least Americans can defend themselves from the hordes of shitskins
in England its literally against the law to use violence on someone breaking into your home
>in England its literally against the law to use violence on someone breaking into your home
Untrue memery, educate yourself sweetie
it is a bit of a faux pas tbf. remember the uproar a few years ago when some old killed someone who broke in to his house? there shouldnt have been an uproar full stop
that was only because he killed a gyppo and their community chimped out over it
it was an illegally owned shotgun and he shot the guy (kid?) in the back running away from the property. He got 3 years for manslaughter.
Reverse all of those facts and come up with your own conclusions to a potential sentence.
i thought you were talking about that old guy who stabbed a gypsy who broke into his house
Bruv, you get warned for even waving a knife at chavs intruding on your property. https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2010/jan/10/myleene-klass-knife-intruders
Why are you trying to fight this battle when we both know you're on thin ice when trying to defend yourself in this country?
you have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that you were in fear of your life and it's also expected for you to shout, yell and holla all kinds of prompts and verbal threats at them beforehand more or less egging them on to attack you whilst your odds of defence are at their very lowest. Thin ice indeed but you're allowed to defend your life.
UK citizens are basically the property of the state. What we get for giving up our defense rights and embracing socialism.
Tony Martin did NOTHING WRONG and is one of Norfolk's finest
I was still baffled and pissed when that woman was murdered by the MET officer and there was so much hysteria and shit like new police bills expanding their powers, more funding, etc. and one batshit claim that men must abide by a curfew. And there I was seething over the fact none of the discourse even from oridinary people was about expanding the defense rights of the citizens. Allow people, which includes women, to buy shit like tazers and have knives to deal with attackers, as a mild step in that direction. We are so cucked as a people. Mere cattle of the nanny state.
i just started taking notice of how disproportionately a police officer seems more likely to carry out statistically this kind of crime against a woman of late compared to the rates of the general public and yet it was the regular blokes of the citizenry who got all the lectures
Reaction to that murder was a lefty psy-op to counter the proposed increase in anti-protest powers of the police. Really quite disgraceful.
Bongpunk is more kino than burgerpunk
that looks like something that was entirely demolished in order to make way for semi-detatched neighborhoods
can't afford to do that in this housing market lmao
Bongpunk = great potential for gritty thrillers
Burgerpunk = greater potential for comfy absurdist dark comedy
how bad do you reckon life in one of these things would be
>looks like the ussr
Looks like Harry Brown
>unless they're a millionaire
Haven't Bongs basically been priced out of living in the areas quintessentially English and that makes England English (the villages, Victorian cojoined town houses) by rich foreigners? I've long felt like Bongland, to the billionaire globohomosexual elite, is some type of holiday home.
The most expensive parts of the country are whiter than white
WHY exactly are the south-east/home counties so expensive?
Price out the darkies isn't it
The only place in the country that gets more than 4 sunny days a year
litter fricking infuriates me
The weather, architecture, and people look all fricked up. What a depressing, soulless shit hole.
>What a depressing, soulless shit hole.
That's like me saying there's no beauty or soul in Murica because I watched the Full Force YouTube doc on airsoftfatty, or saying France is ugly all over because of some shitty concrete jungle invested by blacks and Muslims. UK, like those places, has miserable soulless shitholes that are dystopia and some beautiful soulful places. You come across to me as a foreign who's opinion on the country is informed by Cinemaphile memes
nah I'm afraid 90% of the lived in areas of the country are like this. There are a few nice villages/cities but these are small pockets where no normal person can afford to live (and if they do, they'll live in an area of it like these pics). The UK is one of the ugliest countries in the world to begin with, then add in how we get only a few weeks of sunshine per year. An utter hellscape.
looks like someone forgot their wheelchair
I can tell if he's a bullshitting foreigner or Bong redpilling us on the state of the island
Trust me its not bullshit
t. Bong
I've mainly experienced places like that as the outer suburds of cities like Manchester or something or aspects of market towns and villains (but not what they look like in their entirety).
>The UK is one of the ugliest countries in the world to begin with, then add in how we get only a few weeks of sunshine per year. An utter hellscape.
Nothing wrong with minimal sunshine!
it has its moments.
The perspective of this shot makes me feel sick
those ones look mostly still council and northern ur lookin at 190
that street
Bloody potato on a roof innit
What's the over/under on how many drug deals and sexcapades take place in an alley like this on a daily basis
Need a bongpunk equivalent
you can have this
The crazy thing is, wasn't renown for being absolutely beautiful little over a century ago? I remember reading a book on the lead up to WWI from Britain and Germany's perspective and the impressions on England, from how the gentry lived to normal people, was positive. Like the "green and pleasant land" thing the guy I'm replying to is using sarcastically as totally true until about post-WW2 - then the island got paved over and raped with concrete
WW2 was the final nail but the shittiest places have been shitty since/because of the industrial revolution, living in a mill town a century ago was a WH40K tier nightmare reality
>living in a mill town a century ago was a WH40K tier nightmare reality
Details?
well, for one houses didn't have a source of water, there was a point on the street in each section where people had access to their sanitary needs, as well as water they would take to use for bathing and cooking in the hearth. this would persist in some neighborhoods well into the 20th century
Look at this shit. It's hard to imagine life being even worse than it is now in the UK, but it was. The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
I still can’t comprehend how during the peak of the industrial revolution, London’s air was on average so thick and grey/black from all the pollution that you sometimes could hardly see past your outstretched arms
ok ted
>muh obsession with aesthetics and the built environment
They were still nearly entirely ethnically homogeneous. What was done to the people themselves during the post-industrial period was vastly worse.
south english villages and especially the countryside are still regarded as beautiful. I once took a train from Birmingham to Oxford and it was a beautiful sight. I think the biggest problem with the UK is just the general decline and centralization of their whole economy to revolve around London. If you compare dutch buildings and houses for example you see how well maintained british houses can look really beautiful
Yeah Birmingham has always been nasty. Manchester was dystopian. I've always liked Oxford. Like even in the 'grottier' areas I find it kind of kino and soulful. Same deal with York. I've also liked the vibe of Norwich - even as there's some brutalist piece of shit office complex within my field of vision.
Oxbridge in general is quite beautiful and always worth a visit. I had the luck to visit a former friend of mine who was studying at Oxford and we could walk through the university grounds which was quite impressive for a continental like me
The UK was once beautiful, shit like the shire in Hobbit was the norm; based on the English countryside. Three things conspired to ruin it: first the industrial revolution, then the Nazis bombing the shit out of us and destroying so much beautiful architecture, and finally 1960s planners erecting brutalist monstrosities in their place, in some cases knocking down beautiful buildings and replacing them for no reason. Pic related.
It's truly awful. Have you experienced living somewhere like that?
funny thing about all that is people might first think the war deleted these nicer structures
>1960s planners erecting brutalist monstrosities in their place
existentialism was a mistake
50/60s British architects were a crime against humanity. Thankfully people are walking up to that fact and are pulling a lot of their bullshit down.
I hate brutalism with a passion
>evil brutalism shills
Most had no idea it would end up that way. They thought it was progress. You have to put yourself in the shoes of a decision maker during the mid 20th century and everything they had seen in their lifetime. At it's peak, you're talking about people who had seen the world go from horse-and-buggy to setting foot on the moon in their living memory. It was insane.
So they got a little overzealous and developed certain biases towards 'progress' and assumed all the benefits but none of the downsides. They had no frame of reference for how all that architecture would age. They just assumed it would be space-age clean and efficient and well-maintained forever. But brutalism DOESN'T age well. It just looks evil. By the time that became apparent, the people who inflicted were dying off and the people who knew how to build the old way were already dead with no one to take their places because everyone took the "progress" meme a generation earlier.
The still-standing corpse towns, built in service to industry, were allowed to rot and fester. They've been dumping grounds for mass immigration, testing grounds for new Government projects, the subject of studies, and forgotten dumps seen as inconsequential. Think of Detroit after the they built the highway and the manufacturers left. Everything went to shit.
What, like Milton Keynes?
Milton Keynes was a good idea.
How so?
Details? Most I know in this area was some perturbing headline from last year b***hing about the countryside being 99% white and how this must stop, but I don't know anything beyond some anti-white leftist piece of shit expressing such sentiments.
>How so?
Building a town in an empty patch of land rather than totally fricking up a town that already exists will always be better regardless of how shit the new town ended up being or how shit the town that was spared the metaphorical axe is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden_city_movement
Tourism industry? I have not been to Burford in some years but every summer, lots of Jap tourists there. Modern Oxford is filled to the brim with foreign tourists. Basically robbing these places of the sleep quiet vibes that made them so kino in the first place
It's just blatant, especially during the past two years. it's obvious that they've been shipping them like crazy to non-cities during the pandemic, they're suddenly fricking everywhere and the NHS has become completely unusable it's so overloaded.
I live in a higher income area and it's obvious by the look of them that they can't afford to be here, government's helping them out. A mainstream news outlet said that our population has increased by like 3.5 million within the last few years, it's not difficult to figure out what's going on. That's about the entire population of Wales
Unironically, what's the endgame here?
A similar thing happens over here in burgerland. Black families pop up in areas I know damn well they can't afford to live in. Been going on for a while now though.
Forced diversity
>Forced diversity
But what motivates that from the Boris premiership?
It's all been the same shit since Blair, probably prior to then
I'm still curious as to the root motivation. I know it's happening but what's the explanation? Is it shit spiralling out of control in an initial attempt to combat the aging population and systems that would have came crashing down without new workers? Only for it to then get worse because a lot of them also claim government gibs?
We were rich so from 1950-2000 we gave up domestic industry and bought what we needed from the third world. As other countries developed their purchasing power grew, pushing up prices on energy and goods. We coasted for a while but it's been catching up with us slowly but surely. Our economy is massively service aka stuff that the middle classes are good at, leaving the working class relying on handouts from them. Menial jobs still need doing but Brits are so used to a small amount of pounds going a long way that they won't do them without getting paid enough to achieve the same level of comfort. Hence immigrants being brought in to wipe disabled arses, pick fruit and clean offices.
If I wasn't pissed I could have laid this argument out better, but that's basically it. Hard to see how this improves.
>Hard to see how this improves.
Total collapse? We've inherited a uniquely fricked up world and I think the western world is in for very hard times. Either that or America has some kino reversal of fortunes and we jump ship as Britain sinks deeper and deeper into a sea of shit
Blair opened the floodgates.
Lack of social cohesion will trend voters towards more self-interested voting. They will increasingly vote Tory. Thirty years or so of this already and it's quite obviously working.
The literal centre is still kinda ok, because it's not a traditional city centre and just really services the tourists. Slightly further out just beyond the bar walls in any direction is fricking dire now, though.
Specific areas that are now dire?
Bootham, and not just The Groves which has always been shit. Walmgate (even inside the bar) and out along Hull Road. Rawcliffe is pretty bad now. Most of the still nice areas are south, Fulford/Bishopthorpe area because they were always expensive with a lower ratio of council houses.
What was Walmgate and Hull Road like before? I must have arrived in York for university after they had declined. I never had any issues with Walmgate or Hull Road but to read someone regard them as declining massively surprises me I guess. I never lived in a city prior to this big decline you mention. Was Tang Hall also grotty when you lived there? Rented a house there in 2nd year. I actually liked it - in the sense of 'it's a shithole but it's our shithole' and I had good times in the house we rented there. Huge blackberry bush in the garden - I was able to fill up several tupperwares worth of blackberries and give a box to the elderly neighbours for them to use in a cake or crumble or something.
Yeah tang hall has forever been that way, right back to the eighties at least. Honestly the difference is only apparent because I return every couple of years. If you're living in it you'd barely notice.
Well I guess the simple answer is white genocide but in reality I'm not quite sure.
meds
A lot of the Southwest is still like that. Idyllic, truly a time capsule of preindustrial Britain. But it's not going to last, multiculturalism has started to noticeably take its toll on the small towns
>90% white
Totally unacceptable in 2022
That's so comfy looking.
This country never spiritually recovered from the second world war. We had basically built an identity out of our preeminence in just about everything you can think of, and then we took a beating in the early war and had to rely on America to survive. It was an unimaginable trauma to people who grew up thinking Britain was the greatest power in the world. We went from victors of the great war with the largest and richest empire in history and the most civilly and technically advanced society in the world to getting steamrolled in France and losing Singapore in a week to what was perceived as a second rate power in Japan. The latter particularly broke the image of Britain as a great world dominating power overseas. Every colony saw how easily Singapore fell. And it wasn't taken back by British arms, either, but surrendered at the end of the war by a treaty the Americans made. Getting bailed out by the USA perhaps did even more damage to the country's reputation and self perception than the military defeats, as it showed how we had been usurped. No wonder the Empire disintegrated after that. Modern Bongland originates from this cultural death.
Yeah, the change to the character of British people does get my curiosity. Like look at BBC political shows or game show shit nowadays with people like fricking Owen Jones or Jo Coburn, and then compare then with British people from the 30's-60's. They seemed so superior to us, in character, dignity, presence, and all things. A total erosion of soul and character and psyche.
I've noticed this too. With the death of people like Ian Mckellen and Attenborough, something will have been lost forever. No one on to compete with them has been born for 50 years.
>This country never spiritually recovered from the second world war.
America also took premeditated steps to completely undermine the British Empire at almost every step of the 20th century. That was unhelpful. The 'special relationship' is an abusive one.
The most I'm aware of is America cucking the shit out of Anthony Eden when it came to Suez. Other examples? I'd laugh if JFK is also responsible for a bunch of shit rarely mentioned. He did come from a world where tensions between Anglo-Protestants and Irish-Catholics were far more pronounced.
Fricked over the good thing going with the Anglo-Persian Oil Company once they'd gotten what they needed out of British intelligence to pull off the coup and were the new king makers.
WW1 is said to have been one of the major factors. Diving into the defence of a war-mad nation over what was, in effect, a trivial, parochial dispute. Everything snowballed, thousands were left dead in a ditch - lads who should have been here breeding like rabbits - and post-war arrangements leading us down the dark path to WW2. I know the lefties are a bunch of slags, but they're on to something when they say the country isn't "real." We've been cosplaying as ourselves for decades. History is now just a television show and a tourist attraction. We're a bland, economic province, just like many Western nations.
At least our economy doesn't tank and totally implode just because the tourism industry has slowed down. ie Sri Lanka. But marketing your prestige and history is the slippery slope.
fast forward 80 years and 'young british lads' are shitposting on an American website devoted to American culture (and weeb homosexualry) whilst trying to get their smug energy up by spamming "do Americans really?" and pretending that they're not completely culturally conquered and utterly obsessed about it.
>"do Americans really?"
Wait, do people here actually get riled up about it? I always thought it was light ribbing over wacky/stupud shit that takes place in other countries. I've never gotten riled up over 'do bongs really?' posts
Anon try actually paying attention. the trend of "ribbing" on America is just too out of place compared to how it used to be. Somewhere around 2015-2016 is ramped up so suddenly and so consistently that I can only imagine it's some intentional spam campaign by an outside party.
Yes, your "good natured ribbing" of your cousins across the pond over the past ~5 years has become China/Israel/Russia/Discord troony/whoever's "identified pressure point" with which to spam "smug" anti-american propaganda in literally every. single. thread. It's been ramping up dramatically over the past year especially.
Everything beyond towns looks gorgeous must of the time, it's the urbanised areas that look like trash. That said, most of the town's/cities have rubbish areas which are occupied mostly by rubbish people, but quite often it's balanced by lovely looking neighbourhoods. Too bad the dwellings are often less then worthy of their listing price, property market here is a scam and British houses/flats are often of poor quality when compared to their continental counterparts.
t. Used to work as a surveyor for an engineering company
Bongpunk results in artsy but miserable dystopian thrillers like Children of men. Burgerpunk should, theoretically, result in absurdist dark comedies/satires. I'm struggling to think of examples. Would Office Space count?
Robocop, Idiocracy and Demolition Man are basically the holy trinity of burger punk
the area around goodison park is horrifically grim
>the Wales, Cardiff pic
Reminds of some York suburbs. Lovely city and has some nice housing areas but has the typical miserable Bong streets like that also
hey i live in one of the worst examples of those streets. i also work from a long bodied 7.5t van and getting down those streets is hell
nothing wrong with most of these places. residential neighbourhoods of France, Spain, Italy, Germany are nothing special either.
Rustington doesn't look so bad
The picture from "wales, cardiff" (sic) isn't even from cardiff its from pontypridd. Shit image is shit
the cardiff suburbs! don't badger me with semantics
Bloody beautiful, init m8? God save the Queen.
WE DON'T CARE WHAT THE RED SIDE SAID
Someone post that image of the top left being surrounded by open land and mountains.
Bongs are moronic if they think it's even comparable
Looks like where I live (Wolverhampton)
I desperately need to get out of this fricking shithole
Oi leave Stoke out of this
>t. Chipeating Orc
Neat shot.
>unless they're a millionaire
imagine not just getting a load of mortgages and renting out to people. it's FREE money!
True enough, my international friend. Most are actually of pretty decent size and quality. Some, of course, aren't. The issue, is that a sizeable portion of people treat them like toilets.
Those are nice as far as council houses go, most council estates are wall to wall crammed in brick nightmares
A friend of mine from Yorkshire lived in something that looked similar to OP's. Dunno if it was council housing exactly, I guess I'd call it a duplex. He had crackheads living right next to him, according to him. He bought a house in a slightly better area for a pretty decent price but it was a complete fixer-upper. Like new walls, floors, etc. in every room.
Are most people pretty much priced out of the comfy small seaside towns these days?
>Are most people pretty much priced out of the comfy small seaside towns these days?
Yeah, those places are either trashy as hell and miserable as people don't go there anymore instead opting to go on vacation to Spain, or actually nice but places where only London ~~*investment bankers*~~ and Chinese billionaires own anything.
Literally impossible for most people now due to Brexit. Americans tend to think it's easy to move there but it's actually insanely difficult even if you're a techbro. I'd give anything to move.
Maybe moving to Europe but why would moving to Murica be any harder or easier post-Brexit?
To be fair, most Americans think you can just up and move to any country anywhere for any reason.
Well, being rich generally solves most problems, no matter where you're from
Isn't getting burger citizenship notoriously hard unless you're some 3rd worlder that the Federal government is obsessed with dumping into white areas?
that's not far from the truth
The Somalis and some state settled heavily by Scandis come to mind. Minnesota, was it?
some were settled there, and they they told their friends, now they're all fricking here
Your community has been enriced by future doctors and astronauts
Not terribly difficult if you get married to a burger. It's a lot of paperwork and fees, and nerve-wracking, but otherwise not that bad. I'd read that it was supposed to get a little easier or more streamlined under le orange man but I don't know if that happened or not.
You've experienced it? Also, Biden is an extremely petty person and plastic paddy, so he's got that generational/ancestral hateboner for England, and, I guess by extension, the American Founders who were overwhelmingly WASP
Yeah, my wife immigrated about 12 years ago. Wasn't difficult, just expensive really more than anything. She's fully naturalized now. Of course she came from a nice white country (well...it used to be) so she probably got less scrutiny than if I'd married say, someone from the middle east. You do need to have a decent job and a stable financial situation to prove you can sponsor the person immigrating.
trouble with marrying burgers is the ones in bongistan tend to have the same grass is greener complex and don't want to take some cynical and pasty skinnyfat called callum back to the us of a
As other anon said, plenty of other council houses are significantly worse than these.
Indeed there are. Worse houses in general, heaps of them
Apart from Poland "shitholes" has low crime and general high trust society compared to even prosperous places in London
Ops house is one of those "decent houses, terrible people" estates.
I live in one of those. Great house with large bedrooms, huge garden, stone larder and a nice green out front.
The people are utter shit though. Neighbours who threaten to kill each other, One neighbour who treats the street as his personal garage and had 5-6 non-running cars dotted around (he's one of those people who buys cars with blown head gaskets etc. that can't be repaired without expensive parts in the belief he can fix them on the cheap), brats for kids. White vans and house clearance trucks everywhere.
sounds like that man should have bought a garage and lived in the closet
Nil by Mouth
Kes
Waiting for Eric
Rita, Sue and Bob Too
GOR BLOIMEY, DAT PITCHOR REMOINDS ME OF 'OME! BACK DERE I COULD GET ME SOME POIE AND MASH FOR FOIVE QUID ON FROIDAYS! PROPAH CHEAP AS CHIPS THAT IS!
Stop being racist, bruv.
Oh, look, fatty is failing to get a British accent and slang right, yet again.
Fricking ponderous.
original series of shameless
Benny Hills comfy 80s England.
Just staring at this image for a few seconds gave me depression, jesus.
>jelly you'll never get to flex on your alcoholic neighbours with your sky digital satellite dish
moving out of my parents house in like a week
im fricking terrified of half of the local populace
Why blank out the location on google maps? I can already tell its in Sheffield.
it looks like every fricking town in England you dipshits
Where is this taken? legit looks exactly like where i walk sometimes
Inbetweeners
i hate living in the UK so much bros
Try living in other countries. You realise its not so bad.
is it expensive for bongs to move to another country?
they moan and whinge about England but if they actually move country they spend all day every day in the John Bull Bar And Grill in Tenerife
If you have a degree, there's always Korea and Japan. That's pretty much it though. EU is difficult now, America / Canada are difficult unless you have a certain job.
You're saying it's easy to move to Japan and Korea? Or are you just talking about teaching English, which sounds like a pretty rough/poorly paid gig? Japan is famously monocultural so I can't imagine it can be that easy to go there.
I've lived in the US (Atlanta and small town California), Germany, Sweden, Denmark, Nigeria, Sierra Leonoe, Iceland and Fremantle Australia.
The only country that's better than the UK is Iceland. Iived in Sweden from 03 to 06 it was better back then but not anymore, of course.
Swarthy people make all the difference (despite the fact my experiences with Mexicans in Cali were overwhelmingy positive and that they are hardworking family types).
its nearly July and other than a few days of sunshine last week it has been grey and miserable for Summer
Walsall is a fricking dump man
Great Barr here m8, it's not too bad except for being near Kingstanding.
now't wrong wiv a bit of corrie but ah prefer emmerdale cos i'm from up that way and the birds in that wun r fitter
thats a big glass of warm beer innit
No, lager would be served cold, so would most beer. Even the 'warm' stuff is just less chilled
>Barry, 65
>drinking warm beer
bongs are the thirdies of western Europe and arguably inferior to amerimutts
I feel like it's a bell curve thing. Being some ugly chav living in a place like
is truly awful. You're like a Mordor orc. But then imagine being some handsome rich Chad like Sam Claflin or Henry Cavill. Then it's absolutely kino being a Bong - you get to enjoy a lot of the great stuff the island has to offer, people like Americans love that type of Bong and perceive them as suave and intelligent, etc.
the proverbial bong curve, so to speak
>Life is good when you're attractive
>Life is bad when you're ugly
LOL, literally true EVERYWHERE. That's why the UK is shit.
NOOO britsisters we CAN'T let the HATED FOREIGNERS know about our SHITHOLE
Peep Show is the perfect representation of your mid to late twenties in the UK
Skins is the perfect representation of your teens in the UK
"This Country" is basically what living rurally is like.
Is it a negative portrayal?
Not really.
I put his stapler in 'jelly' once. Doubly triggered him because he hates the way 'jelly' moves.
Really under-rated show.
As someone who grew up in quite a small town they absolutely nail some stuff.
It's pure kino. Of course the yanks have bought the rights and absolutely butchered it
What's your favorite British film?
the day of the triffids 1963
its awful but its the best adaptation we have so far
based
Wickerman
The Devils
Any living Englishman as kino as him? Christopher Lee and Cushing have long been dead also. Like we meme fondly on Henry Cavill for being an /our guy/ autist but he's got nowhere near the character the previous three men I mentioned had
Cushing was so based
He's the person that comes to mind when I think of the 'English gentleman' archetype. He makes you lament that you yourself did not grow up to also be such genuinely good gentle hearted person.
It depressed me reading his bio on Wikipedia about how he changed so much after his wife died. Dude got seriously depressed and seemed to have lost all will to live.
>In 1971 Cushing's wife died of emphysema; they had been married since 1943. Cushing often said he felt his life had ended when hers did,[9] and he was so crushed that when his first autobiography was published in 1986, it made no mention of his life after her death.[26] In 1972, he was quoted in the Radio Times as having said, "Since Helen passed on I can't find anything; the heart, quite simply, has gone out of everything. Time is interminable, the loneliness is almost unbearable and the only thing that keeps me going is the knowledge that my dear Helen and I will be reunited again some day. To join Helen is my only ambition. You have my permission to publish that ... really, you know, dear boy, it's all just killing time. Please say that."[153]
>In his autobiography, Cushing implies that he attempted suicide on the night of his wife's death by running up and down stairs in the vain hope that it would induce a heart attack. He later stated that this had simply been a hysterical response borne out of grief, and that he had not purposely attempted to end his life; a poem left by Helen had implored him not to die until he had lived his life to the full.[149]
>The effects of his wife's death proved to be as much physical as mental. For his role in Dracula A.D. 1972, Cushing (who was 58) had originally been cast as the father of Stephanie Beacham's character, but had aged so visibly and lost so much weight that the script was hastily rewritten to make him her grandfather: it was done again in the last Dracula film from Hammer, The Satanic Rites of Dracula.
🙁
Damn.
He's with her now, boys, in the long forever. Rest easy, Peter.
Lemmy, I feel, was American in spirit. The maverick individualist contrarian isn't quintessentially English.
Lemmy maybe exemplifies the british punk spirit, but for a general geist I would say Fred Dibnah exemplifies the old british working class man
Lemmy was american in spirit, queen bowing limey
the idea of american individualism shares a lot with the british punk movement, their concepts aren't mutually exclusive
You definitely can never truly disassociate America from Britain and vice versa. The fricking Founders WERE ethnically British bar a few like John Jay. There world was a British one curated to a new setting/context.
honestly a direct comparison is silly, but the parallels in the ideological reaction to traditional british culture and values between the two is pretty interesting.
it's British anti-authoritarianism in general. Americans generally don't know that we beheaded our own king more than 100 years before the American Revolution, then only failed at Parliamentary Democracy and went back to consitutional monarchy because none of the concepts had even developed yet.
John Bull chads rise up
the english civil war is sadly not as emphasized in curriculum as it once might have been
I was always annoyed by the b***hing about how we didn't teach muh ebils of the Empire because when I was in school a lot of the wins were not taught either. For my money, the history courses were not tailed to some homosexual political agenda. It was a mix. We had shit about the slave trade and emancipation next to English Civil War, Industrial Revolution, etc. GCSE's were to my memory American West and medicine through time and A-level was War of Roses, Protestant Reformation, Elizabethan England, and Russia from like 1890's to 1960's
KINO
This man convinced me to give Jack and Coke a go and it ranks as one of my favourites. There's something about getting wasted on that combo whilst blasting Motorhead and smoking a few that you don't get with shit like gin and tonic or some rum and mixer concoction.
Jack & Coke's been my go-to forever. Classic simple combo.
Jack, Coke, and Marlboro Reds. Great trifecta for getting wasted.
Lemmy left England for good in '90, because LA was just better.
Wait, Lemmy being American or English is now up for debate?
How's the fast food in bongland, pretty comparable to the states?
>Better curry
>Worse burgers
It's swings and roundabouts
watch ratemytakeaway on youtube
I'm a a total shut in so I feel like being a good looking fitgay in Britain of all places, there's a lot of ways for me to leverage my looks that haven't quite occurred to me yet.
Based Danny.
I'm amazed at his social skills and ability to speak to everyone without judgement.
>that episode where a moron comes up and starts eating his chips so he just lets him have the rest of them
I prefer bluevanman.
I can't believe someone would do this. Really.
>takes a bite
>swallows after two munches
Holy frick I'm gonna puke
it's mostly just foreign middle eastern men with thick accents calling you 'boss' and selling you cheap fried food of various shapes and sizes
Ratcatcher
Literally me
>this is where the people calling America a shithole live
Never forget that. It is always jealousy. Always. I live remarkably lower-middle income in the US and I could not even fathom something as disgusting, packed in, and dirty as that.
Meanwhile in America..
I would actually live there before I lived in that image OP posted, because you walk two blocks and you escape that, and living there costs peanuts.
That's literally one of the most notoriously shitty urban districts in America. It's a meme. It's not reflective of the country as a whole or even the city it's in.
>implying the photos in this thread are reflective of the country as a whole
cognitive dissonance
like for like. That clip doesn't even reflect urban ghettos across the country (or even if L.A.). It's notoriously shitty. It's like wanting to shit on row houses and picking the worst street in Camden, NJ or Baltimore.
yeah, there's shit holes everywhere, what's new
I grew up in Perpginan France f
true hell
none of the photos ITT are reflective of anything as a whole
Can you describe where you live? I don't hate or shittalk America either here or in real life so I'm curious. Aren't a lot of urban blue Americans going to relate to Bong/Euro living though?
The BBC Scotland documentUary "The Scheme" is vital viewing. It will be 90% indecipherable to everyone who isn't Scottish but it worth a watch to see how life is in the shit parts of Scotland.
Probably quite a few memes from it are possible but it was shown before memes were a thing I think
Probably YouTube has some of the best bits as highlights
The Bedford bus station is fricking awful, although when there once a small old Asian man in a Vietnam Veterans cap caught my attention
>What tv shows or movies really make you feel like you're living in the UK?
unironically gif related
Rab C even though its not even in bongland and is hagisland or harry enfield and chums for bongistan
all of them. i live in the uk. pray for me.
People still haven't realised they don't give a shit about us other than as a place to put their military bases?
This just finished and was really good. Very few darkies in case you're racist, mildly pozzed political message but not too bad. Strong acting and dialogue for the few among you who care for such old-fashioned qualities
i tried making 2 threads on this and they just went straight to page 10, shame really
I saw one of them but couldn't form a coherent response after 2 episodes.
It's worth a watch. The masturbation scene triggered me.
the first two episdoes didnt wow me at all, ep 3 is when it starts becoming more than a police crime thriller and gets to the kino
I moved away from the UK fifteen years ago and still revisit periodically to see family. Holy FRICK has it gone downhill in that amount of time. Even the lovely tourist places, like Harrogate or York, are now nog-infested overpopulated shitholes and getting rapidly worse. Doesn't matter where you are in a town or city, 2am you'll have some louts arguing somewhere in the mile radius and have to listen to it.
People who live there all the time don't see it, but as an occasional returnee it's clear as day. Like boiled frogs innit.
It's gonna be truly horrific in another five years or so.
>York
Last time I was in York town centre was 2020. Didn't notice many nogs, even in summer when shit opened back up again and everyone was out and about enjoying things.
York is one of those classically Lib Dem areas that has barely an immigrant in it.
Yeah, it sure was. That's changing.
York is fine it's just been infested by a different type of nog. Love Island deanos from Essex
People Just Do Nothing, literally the only correct answer.
positively grim
>Do you want to give him a kiss?
Worst house party ever..
>all these people complaining about nogs
Move north white man
this. I crave the day I can move back
Whites are being hounded, so to speak. Not even saying the non-whites/foreigners have some aggressive conscious agenda to do so, a lot of it is self interest because why wouldn't you want to live in England compared to where they previously came from + being herded by globohomosexual government/elites. But the point is this, move to Northumberland and it's only a matter of time till they come after you. Nowhere is sacred.
>it's only a matter of time till they come after you
Sadly true. Undesirable people move in, whites move out, politicians complain about "white flight" and the cycle just repeats itself.
>less than 400 blacks
Holy based
Those really dark Indians, you know the ones
bunch of typical moaning bongs in this thread. you love misery and you love to complain, so you love being here. if you really hate it, frick off, a UK passport is a golden ticket, go dig wells in Uganda or something.
you tryna' mug me off in front of my pals?
>you love misery and you love to complain
this is the essence of Britishness and I love every minute of it.
it's become a cliche here to complain about the weather despite us having probably the most pleasant, livable climate on earth. it's literally a miracle how we manage to have so little perspective.
Oh yeah.
Bloody 'ell.
I'm sweating 'ere.
>tfw it hits a sweltering 23 degrees centigrade
god I hate having to take off my tweed jacket
>the most pleasant, livable climate on earth
There's no way you can seriously believe this. Grey skies 24/7 is not pleasant. Brits complain a lot because we live in the most miserable, disgusting and grey country in the developed world. You don't want it to be too hot but some balance would be good; for me, probably eastern USA or the med.
>probably eastern USA
-10 in winter +30 summer + humidity? no frick off. the only way yanks manage to survive in the US is by guzzling energy to control the temperatures indoors.
>muh lack of sunshine
Climate makes the people. The UK and Europe's climate made civilized people. As does Japans. Give the Khoisan technology and protection from raiding black Africans and eventually they would have conquered the continent instead of white Europeans. The Maori of New Zealand would have developed in interesting ways given the time but they weren't there nearly long enough. Same for Tazmania. The climate makes the people.
>The UK and Europe's climate made civilized people.
explain
Would take too long and thread is kaput. Just read Guns, Germs, and Steel (or watch the doc) and pretend an utterly Judaized cuck didn't write it (or be aware that one did) and make alterations where necessary. Look at Koppen climate classification and draw some inferences. We are human animals. We adapt. Climate makes the people.
>most pleasant
is this what americans have resorted to? their country is so fricked up, they have to brag about sunlight kek
Being offensive is an offense
A Brit said they have the best weather you illiterate frick
What did San Diego do?
sun magnet
In most of SoCal (but San Diego especially) there's a marine layer of clouds that rolls in from the ocean at night and burns off by 10-11 am.
San Fran also has a microclimate that is atypical.
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Slumdog Millionaire
>live in semi rural SOUF
honestly all good things considered, the place where I live keeps its more historic buildings over the concrete hellscapes of the NORF
Nothing depresses me like UK living conditions.
As other anons said, it's probably not a bad place to live, and I live in Dublin Ireland too which I'm not sure you could say is better, certainly not weatherwise.
And yet the UK street scenes like in this thread instill this nearly existential feeling of dread
i like that can’t pay we take it away show
i wouldnt complain so much about uk if house prices and rents weren't completely fricked
The colder and wetter weather just makes everything seem worse, but what I've learned over the years is that everywhere has shithole towns and neighbourhoods, and the places that seem to have less like Japan are just more draconian. Instead of being obviously shit like UK council estates, all the poor people and alcoholics end up in a single district, sleeping under motorways and passing out in the middle of the road.
also the "bad" cities in the UK usually have nice areas, at least in places that weren't carpet bombed then completely rebuilt.
The fundamental problem is too many people in not enough land. A good example that fits what you're talking about - Singapore. Tons of people, but a veneer of niceness, because it's policed with a iron fist.
There are very few places left with good quality of living and low populations, and they're only surviving that way because they're very hostile to immigration.
I live in Seoul. Amazing place at least in my opinion, I was born in Manchester and lived most of my life on a council estate in Leicester however, so take my opinion with a handful of salt maybe.
Rent is cheap, housing quality is, in my experience, superior to England. I lived in Kent for a few years and I had to deal with paying £900 a month for a converted office between a drug dealer and a Nigerian woman that abused her kid every day. None of that here.
Despite the distinct lack of spontaneous crime, less angry people and the fact your money seems to go much further, there are tiny things I never thought of in England. One big one is that basically anywhere I've had to go in Asia, Shanghai, Seoul and Tokyo (the former and latter just quick week holidays mind) you can suddenly be hit with this horrendous drain smell. Another one is air quality, even in these miserable little towns in England, the air is great. In Seoul I'll often blow my nose and black shit just falls out. Rules are much more draconian too, which probably is why it is nice to live, I am apparently not allowed to go to certain areas, even for a drink, if there is a protest, lest I be caught there, accused of protesting and potentially deported.
I'm sure proximity to china has an effect on your air quality, and maybe the ruinous chemicals churned out and vaporized by the production of semi-conductors in states like south korea and its neighbors.
as someone who was abroad during covid, the British public's complete disregard for any of those bullshit new regulations was something I was envious of
Looks like a Garry's Mod map
This looks like one of those South American shitworld favellas a week after it was built. Also parts of Mexico and the Caribean. They all looked like this. Then, the new wears off and thanks to zero / corrupt building codes the inhabitants just tack-on whatever they want using whatever they can scrounge, the rot sets in, and you now have your "vibrant" community.
As with almost everything else in UK society, the problem lies with the class system and wealth/opportunity inequality. You can start somewhere like OP's photo and in minutes you're in pic related. Every town above a certain population will have pockets of beautiful civilization, and street upon street of poor motherfrickers who will never get out.
Best analogy I think of is you have a beautiful white canvas and then throw shit at is. Big spots of shit and lots of little speckles now cover the canvas. A lot of pure white canvas is still visible but so is there a lot of shit. It's all intermingled. So too are the nice and shit areas of a city. Someone told me London was weird in that you're in a nice spot, you turn a corner, then another and suddenly it's shitty or weird. My experience totally lined up with that guy's description
Pretty kino ep
>Brits complaining about diversity
London has the same demographics as Des Moines. You have no idea how good you have it.
>Inb4 2021 census
What are French demographics? I know there is no race stuff on the census but educated guess?
You mean like the shitting on Americans for their cars? That rubs me the wrong way too. There's a political element to that as well as national, it's only that Americans have that type of anti-statism/individualism in greater abundance so get picked on by leftygays.
I know as a proportion Whitey has declined, but I want to know if the raw number is as high as projections suggested a few decades ago. Or, has that too diminished?
any and all Mike Leigh movies. Another Year and Naked are good places to start
>best thread on the board has nothing to do with the board topic
why does this always happen lol
Fewer autists dedicated to shitting up the topic
As with everywhere else in the world, just don't be poor.
Looking at streetview, the houses are still claustrophobic matchboxes
Easier said than done when the average salary in the UK is about £30k, or $36k. Americans reading this sentence will be baffled and think I made a typo. They make twice that straight out of college. Keswick has no jobs but the houses there cost like £400k ($480k), despite being shit. Such is the case for any of the rare nice places in this c**try.
they make 80k straight out of college?
My jr designers start from 65-80 out of college.
Actually, if you're a skilled professional in a field with demand, and you're smart enough to intern in your studies, you can pick up a career with that income or better for a start, and in ten year's time you can easily make 20usd in like 15 minutes of work..0
Burgers have big salaries, but they also have big expenses. Health insurance is a big one.
I live in Norway, a "rich" country, and a gross salary here doesn't even touch what someone equivalent in CA or NY makes. $60k is a pretty decent salary here. Net however I think we're fine.
Health insurance doesn’t cost dick if you have a decent job. It’s part of your compensation package.
I did. Now I’m four years out of school making $115k. Not a techgay either. I’m an industrial engineer.
Socialism increases the cost of business. I’m not saying this in a political way. It just does. Socialism generally means higher taxes and regulations on companies. Workers also have more privileges.
This means the US is a much more favorable place to do business. That means more companies here. That means more competition for labor.
Again, I’m not offering a political opinion here. Burgers have less guaranteed vacation and maternity leave and probably unemployment and they at least partially buy their own health insurance. We also make more money and pay fewer taxes.
Reminder that regulations are good for big corps
Some are.
and lack of regulation is the reason why all those boomers had fricking lead poisoning.
im sure even less regulations on what banks, stock traders and housing companies are allowed to do would be great for everyone
Regulations are fine, over regulation is damaging. Pendulums always swing too far the other way.
i looked up the average salary in New York for my girlfriend's job and mine. Pathology co-ordinator and paralegal, we got £43k between us before tax, in Manhattan we'd have around $120k before tax. Every response I had when I mentioned it to others was 'uhhh yeh but NY rent is high!' we could have rented a passable 1 bed flat in the Lower East Side for about $500 more than what we were paying in the South East, not even London.
You also need to consider cost of living in NYC. Think of what a weekly grocery shop will set you back or doctors appointments, dentists etc.
I make 40K as a dumb frick chippy in London. I have zero qualifications and literally just fell into the job with no experience. Was university worth it?
it is if you have a plan to put your acquired skills to use with no delay
healthcare and legal jobs are going to get far more because those are both totally cutthroat business operations in the US with no restrictions to prevent making as much money as possible.
the median networth per adult in the US is actually 60% lower than in the UK because everyone rents and inequality is even higher. of course the top 1% is literally megarich not saying it wouldn't make sense for YOU to move with your jobs, but it's not reflective of society as a whole.
meant to write "40% lower" lol
Median wealth means little and is just because boomers are benefiting from massively inflated house prices, which fricks over young people. Americans of all professions will massively, massively out earn their British counterparts. It might be better if you're truly poor in the UK, but that's about it.
If you look up the 'economic freedom index' you'll see the UK is higher than the US. To call the UK socialist is beyond laughable. The US just has insanely high wages compared to most countries. Switzerland is about the only one that competes.
Sure would be nice if we had some source of energy now instead of relying on the Russians, no? In any case, if you just immediately pull the rug that entire regions relied on for generations without anything to replace it, it's not going to go well. As a result the north of our country is and always will be a hellscape from now on. Pretty much all our current major problems, and economic collapses which have been in response to deregulating banks, etc., can be traced back to her. Completely gutted society and communities, opened the floodgates of immigrants, etc.
>Americans of all professions will massively, massively out earn their British counterparts.
well, what happens to it all?
They use it to have greatly better lives than us. Not enough to make up for house prices in the UK doubling every few years though.
If not, then it'll be because of other reasons like British unproductivity. UK has lower corporation taxes, they have to pay their workers lower, etc. Either way, it shows it's dumb to call the UK socialist.
>muh economic freedom index
homie literally no one would choose to start a business in the UK over the US
shut it, mayochud
the government's obsession with carbon footprints has chased away or stymied refineries and even oil extraction in britain sadly. that is artificially ballooning energy costs, the activists and their sort are to blame, not chucking out coal scrubbers thirty million years ago.
I symapthize but this is the definition of a "first world problem".
Yeah well this is the first world bubba
Don't take issue about the degradation of your society because some black guy in Africa or brown in India has it worse?
it's unironically a good idea to think like this from time to time, for the sake of your emotional health.
without london proping up the average salery here, its probably 10k less than that aswell
fricked up hearing how much money compsci yanks make. graduate positions here are 24-26k
my dumb frick CS friends in the bay area make $200k a year in software, and they are new graduates. they can't even do their own laundry.
Try not being a socialist shithole?
How does the socialism keep cs job wages low?
It undermines the culture of competition and innovation.
>mid level PHP developer with lots of AWS experience
>Earning £30K
I need to get a fricking new job.
I started on 50k out of university.
We live on an island full of history, but have no connection to it. There's no tradition, no culture. no link to the land. We just sit and consume. Even visiting a castle or stately home is done as a form of consuming, going to a National Trust property and gawping rather than having that history as part of who we are.
>We live on an island full of history, but have no connection to it
I guess that you shouldn't have been born into a plebeian lineage if you wanted a connection.
I don't get it. Ordinary working people never had that connection or even culture/tradition according to you?
They never had a stake but were content in being part of the greater whole but ultimately the working classes have always been marginalised and at the mercy of the generosities of the class system. Socially there is greater equality amongst the classes now. The economic disparity is distributed about the same as it ever was.
But at least you don't have to worry about Dr. Smith spreading libel about you in the town or getting away with whatever shenanigans he likes because he's a doctor and you're all just labourers.
>We live on an island full of history, but have no connection to it. There's no tradition, no culture. no link to the land.
How did people live in, say, the 1910's before the WWI? Genuine question. That was such a different world to one we now inhabit I want to know what tradition/culture they had. Hell, the question I have may be too broad if it subdivided into a lot of local stuff.
The richest people in the UK choose what is important for the country as a whole to remember and hold dear, and since none of their money is actually in the UK, they don't care about it.
dude tea and fish and chips and moaning about the rain lmao
for me it's driving to the mall and watching black men frick my wife
*getting shot at the mall
motherfrickers don't know who thatcher is
the nation could use her force of will, and good sense right about now
HA
I must have missed the part where her tenure didn't pull the nation from the brink of destitution, socialist collapse, ruin, and armed brigandry
Good books on Thatcher? I've seen old Welsh fricks grumble bitterly in the 2010's about how she would have been shot if she showed her face anywhere in the country.
Her memoirs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Downing_Street_Years
notorious milk thief, madly jealous of those with gigantic breasts, nice ankles
"the simpsons"
Brassic
the original shameless
Bargain Loving Brits by the Sea.
It's an oddly kino series about seaside resorts that all the most deprived people in the country go to.
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6vkdm9
My mum loves that show but I find the those deprived people depressingly trashy.
It really isn't even close to enough to make up for it. London is on par with some of the most expensive cities in America, but they still only earn $40ishk on average.
She ushered in the age of globohomo, utterly reliant on london ~~*bankers*~~ and foreigners. She's the reason why the north is so depressing.
In the UK? That's wildly above average but would be below average or just ordinary in America.
>In the UK?
Yes
The north was already then long economically reliant on a dead industry. She only ripped away the bandages that had engorged themselves with much blood to the point of becoming millstones round Britain's neck. Millstones that were Inexorably dragging the nation down into the rank depths of destitution and riot.
Wow op pic nailed it
Depression
brits being tricked into voting to make escaping their paki infested swamp harder will never not be hilarious
>implying they weren't going to be fricked either way
>at least this was a frick you to globalism
>frick you globalism
>swaps poles and slovaks in favour of pajeets and ahmeds
>LMAO
I love the climate and architecture of England but I also don't want to get arrested for mean tweets or have my daughter get gangraped by shitskins with the tacit approval of the state.
Is there a comparable place I can move?
Norway? only there can a white man be sniped by a neonazi in their attempt to save the white race.
I think rural New England might be the best bet. I'd love to retire there.
>climate
Marine climates are actually pretty rare. Your only options are other parts of northwest Europe, the PNW in North America, and Patagonia in South America.
The rest of northwest Europe is just as bad as England, and the other two have shit-tier new world architecture.
>i love the climate
New Zealand. But it's the rich's dirty little secret. They're all going there. Also, parts of Tazmania in Australia share a similar climate. As done the Pacific NW in the US, but it's over-run with commies and fricked up on purpose because the elites dont want white people moving there. The US government literally stored nuclear waste upstream in one of the rivers in order to salt the earth if necessary.
End of the Fricking World hit the nail on the head for being an awkward teenager in the UK
>look it up
>"James is a 17-year-old who believes he is a psychopath. He kills animals as a hobby..."
>is played by Alex Lawther
Kek, this little frick. Decent actor but he does make my skin crawl. He reminds me of a guy from 6th Form who was an extreme leftist who ended up trooning out. Like he's one of the types who fumed with rage over the idea of pre-teen "trans kids" not being injected with hormones and not having their bits cut off
I think there was a period in late 1990s to 2004 or so where everything clicked again for the UK. Maybe it's just the tv but it seemed like there was a good balance of dreary britishness with a splash of optimism and laidbackness about the future.
I think Spaced displays this the best, kind of coasting about on a few hundred quid in shared accomodation. These days it would be £1000/room + bills, all the deadbeat characters would be priced out of the tv show and it's not like its some friends-tier NY penthouse.
>just checked the spaced house went for sale for £4M
Yes, even children in the far off great lakes had a lot of fun with the music of the spice girls and the nifty bond films with pierce brosnan in the titular roll. A mini renaissance of British soft power in the age of John Major, and Tony Blair.
>4M for a nine-bedroom house in North London
not even that much lmao
this was 4 years ago, it's probably double that now. 18 years before the sale £90/week for a 2 bedroom was believable enough for tv.
Soon to leave uni. How do I go about moving out of parents house?
Your options are:
>have rich parents buy you a flat somewhere
>get a decent job (you do have one lined up already right?) over 25k and share rent with housemates, have decent quality of life. Eventually move to->
>get a gf and share a 1 bed flat, decent quality of life. Hope you get serious wage growth and save a mortgage
>move to norf and buy a house for sub 150k on a reg salary
>live at home and throw away 10 years of your life while trying to save a deposit
I'm on year 7 living at home after uni, it's something
>>get a decent job (you do have one lined up already right?)
no
well it's back with mum and dad then. After 2008 there was a freezing hire for graduates that lasted around 5 years.
You're possibly entering a similar half generational shitstorm soon, we'll see.
>year 7
cripes man. end of year 1 here and im already torn up over my escape being pushed a week back
well tbf, I get on with the 'rents alright so it's not been too bad.
I also started a business 4 years ago, got RONA'd and only just gotten to the point where things are settled enough for me to consider moving out. Should be out early autumn, although I'm also slightly losing my mind the closer it gets to that point.