What was the meaning of this scene?
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What the frick is C-beam?
2049 was better off
dicky beam, he was a pedo
>C-beam
It's sea bream
What do you serve those with?
he went schizo
>I SAW SPACESHIPS ONCE, THAT MAKES ME MORE HUMAN THAN YOU
I think it's the opposite.
He's seen marvelous things and it will never make him human. nothing will make him human. and his struggle was meaningless from the start.
But from a perspective of Lacan, that's exactly what humans do. we never are complete.
So in his struggle we see something that experience the same thing as a human.
>lacan
not more human, but worthy of freedom.
there is none
this character isn't a person, it's a complex AI
it didn't "see" anything and it's not sad that it's going to "die"
robots are not people and never will be and it's a waste of time to consider what it could mean if they were
>this character isn't a person, it's a complex AI
no he isn't lol. have you seen the movie? they're just humans grown in jars. there are no computers involved, he has a human brain.
Do you have any idea how many times this has been talked about and explained on Cinemaphile in the last decade?
Short version: Roy Batty learend to not be a sociopath for once. The beginning of the film has a Replicant asked about seeing a turtle turned over, and he can't wrap his head around the situation because he's unable to engage in empathy. Roy at the end of the film sees a turtle flipped over and decides to help it. He pased the Voign Kampf Test.
Smart way to bookend the plot.
Also I think the sequel isn't canon because Deckard being a replicant completely wrecks the meaningfulness of the scene. A human seeing a replicant change its attitude and save his life is a beautiful moment.
the sequel confirms that Deckard is no replicant, the frick are you in about?
Yes, Deck is clearly some dude. No signs of being a replicant. In fact, the reason K is made a Replicant is to explore the Replicant blade runner storyline.
You completely missed the point of the sequel. When it specifically comes to "is Deckard a replicant" in the sequel, the answer the film gives is a very pronounced "Does it matter?". It never confirms one way or the other, it's making the argument that it doesn't matter regardless of the answer. Look at the scene where K asks Deckard if his dog is real. Deckard says something like "Do you think it matters to him?". The dog is living it's dog life, whether it was a real dog or not has no impact on it's life at all. The only reason humans/replicants are impacted by the question on any level is because they're intelligent enough to ask the question in the first place.
>replicants have limited lifespan
>end movie ambiguously
>make sequel that clearly shits on the ambiguity of Deckards origins by having him alive and grown old long after a replicant would have expired
>one throw away line that just tries to re-tread the philosophical questions of the original film
Deckard was a different type of replicant, if he is one, which is made very clear in the original. Him living a normal length life isn't some kind of retcon or continuity error in the sequel, as you appear to be implying.
>which is made very clear in the original
Show me the line of dialogue where it says; "Deckard is a replicant and furthermore he is a special kind of replicant that has a human length lifespan unlike every single other replicant ever made in the history of making replicants".
Or are you gonna give me some horseshit about a unicorn dream sequence that was added years later?
I personally don't think he's a replicant. However, if he was a replicant he's clearly not the same as replicants like Roy. He doesn't have the super strength, for starters.
>Or are you gonna give me some horseshit about a unicorn dream sequence
That's what I thought
He added it in at the behest of everyone involved and the screenwriter even said not once was he told to write him as secretly being a replicant. It was genuinely an idea he came up with and was like "yo this will totally blow peoples MINDS bro" and threw it in without considering how it would affect the story. He's a hack
I’ve always felt it was implied by the lines about how Replicants do dirty, dangerous jobs that no human would want and that his longer lifespan is covered by “the candle that shines twice as bright burns half as long.” Deckard doesn’t “shine” as bright as the others so he “burns” longer. I always thought it would be cool to happen across some reference to some other Bladerunner already being retired by the age of thirty pinching nurse’s asses while he’s jacking off with Jergens and he’s jerking but this whole bag of Viagra isn’t working and every dingle person is a Slim Shady lurking he could be working at Burger King spitting on your onion rings or in the parking lot circling, screaming, “I don’t give a frick,” with his windows down and his system up so would the real Slim Shady please stand up and put one of those fingers on each hand up and be proud to be out of your mind and out of control so one more time, loud as you can, now how’s it go?
I think its to be real one mast have a soul, in order to have a soul one must be able to question one's existance, The problem is whether or not say lab grown people outside a womb are real or not or are less valid than people who were legitimately born.
The answer is that the question becomes irrelevant once asked because to be aware and questioning your existence like asking who am I confirms authenticity and that life is life regardless of where it came from.
Its like if I bought knock off designer underwear that is just as good as the real thing then its completely irrelvant whether or not the liscense holder made it or not because no one can tell the difference and the idea that something is authentic because it comes from one source becomes a fallacy as reality is entirely based on substantive truth and not artificial/subjective values brought on by social constructs.
If I teach myself to be an accountant using the internet and books and someone doesnt employ me because I dont have a degree from an institution means that guy is moronic.
Nothing in this reality is truly authentic in a sense the machines can become more real than we are or in the movies line
"At Tyrell our motto is more human than human"
The truth about why the replicants are given a 4 year lifespan is because they are better than humans in every way and would ultimately replace us in the eyes of the idiots like tyrell because they are making the mistake of a distinction of manufactured humans being fake or not really human when the real logic is that they are human and they are real because what makes them real is a combination of their ability to perceive themselves and others being able to perceive them.
The idea that they are fake comes from a false human fear of trying to maintain a sense of authenticity or original source matertial that plain and simply does not exist.
This is why Blade Runner is a stagnant world/society.
Holy kino. I failed to understand it before. Based Ridley Scott
Great shit.
For Deckard to realize its all he ever wanted. To feel part of the programming and give up. Or defy both your artificial and human aspects and become something greater.
The film looks so good on screen that I'm willing to forgive its faults, which are many, Rutger Lasers&Spaceships Hauer being one of them.
Hauer improvised the entire thing and was going to actually throw himself off the building at the end but they managed to subdue him.
>waaaa I'm a robot but i also have a soul and feelings
>waaaa you heckin bigot we're as much people as you are
Just another SJW faction we will have to worry about in the future. Imagine voting robots, what's even the fricking point just nuke everything if it gets to that
I SEEN BEAMS OF C
TANNHAUSER TOO
THEY CANT BELIEVE
NEITHER CAN YOU
AND I THINK TO MYSELF
TIME TO DIE
Fricking kek, how is this board so funny and creative
Every post is a repost of a repost
To hold a very perturbed and wet dove hostage for a bit before finally letting it go.
To show Rutger Hauer's hot chest.
he realized that humans are a medium of observation, consciousness is the purpose of life because through being observed and represented as idea in the mind it becomes complete, just like a child becomes complete the moment god gives it a soul at conception despite the organic components being provided.
I think that
>IT'S TOO BAD SHE WON'T LIVE, BUT THEN AGAIN WHO DOES?
is much more succinct and kinoer.
It made no sense at all
The chink policeman character made no sense at all in general
>but he was le human whose consciousness was uploaded to Deckard’s robotic mind
no
>character designed as part of a twist
>if i pretend the twist didn't happen, the character makes no sense
okay genius
>It made no sense at all
Deckard is a vegetable with a long lifespan while Roy is candle burning very brightly. It's to say both that everyone dies eventually and that while you may be alive that doesn't mean that you're actually living. I like how effectively just one line underscores the themes of the film.
dem beems be bussin fr fr
He showed mercy. He proved he wasn't a mindless machine only able to kill.
The value of life. Nobody has ever, or will ever, experience the things he experienced in the way he did. When he dies they'll no longer exist. It will be like they never existed because there's nobody to remember them when he's gone.
That's part of the reason he spares Deckard. In some small way he lives on in Deckard. If Deckard had died there would have been absolutely nothing left to prove that he ever existed. Deckard is his legacy.
Blade runner 2049 SUCKED
Disagree l, I think it's one of the only sequels to surpass the original. And I say that as a fan of the original.
>replicants illegal on earth
>dude we've got a cop replicant lmao
>he doesn't even know lmao
>can act human and drink and be a dick lmao
>acts human better than any other replicant
>so advanced
>gets his fricking ass raped by 3 shitty replicants
>LOL glad we have that replicant-killing replicant-cop guy around
great story scott
it was the mercy he showed you morons
the whole movie they called replicants cold emotionless killers who were less than human
then in the final moment deckard is the cold emotionless killer and batty is the one who is merciful and kind (hence the white dove and nails in his hands a la christ)
he has finally developed empathy, mercy, and become on the same level as a human being right before he dies
>2049 is better than the origina-
vilenueve is a HACK
>vilenieu is a h-ACK
That pic is a bit disingenuous, three of those stills are from the same scene, I think the point of the room looking devoid of decoration is to highlight K is a skin job , who would have no need for such things.
the rest of the movie looks the exact same
monotone, sterile, empty, soulless
He lost his spaceship in the rain because he left the c-beams on and the battery drained, not even his buddy Shoulders O’Bryan could find it.
Some gimmick visual to wrap the movie
Also it's a satire you racist chuds
Chads*
Sorry my bad.
>Deckard's a replicant
>Deckard has always bern a replicant
Ruther tried to take credit for improvising his lines, but in the DVD at high res you can see his lines are clearly written on the pigeon.
>Like tears in the rain
Not only human but deeply philosophical and intelligent. I dont understand how they arnt human, they are clones, born as adults with 3 year life span. I suppose Pris being childlike is emblematic of this and J F Sebastian aging rapidly is symbolic of this theme somehow. Perhaps how age doesnt define us as humans. There's so much in it not to mention the
>Fiery the angels fell
metaphor.
There's always something else in it. One of the best movies of all time which I can always go back and watch, unlike the sequel which is good but doesnt have the same magic.
>I saw spacelaser
>I saw spaceships
>I saw spacegate
>you saw none of them
>i win
>time to die
C BEAMZ N SHIIIIEEETTTT homie
What is the best version of Blade Runner to watch? There are so many.
final cut and just treat the unicorn scene like a suggestion rather than a definite answer whether deckard is a replicant
>watch the movie but override what's on screen with your gay "headcanon"
troony logic
>override
>suggestion
look up the definitions of these words and then reread both your own post and the one that you responded to
yes thats exactly what ridley did when he inserted that scene at the behest of the script writer, harrison ford and literally anyone with a brain
theatrical cut with the voiceovers
>producers understood what film-noir is more than ridley scott who objected to the voiceovers
I swear ridley scott might be the luckiest idiot out there
Some non-human b***hing about his woes.
He had a built in lifespan of 5-years and didn't like that too much. Imagine if you were born nearly perfect and you find out you're going to die in a few years. Wouldn't you want justice against those who decided to both you life and take it away?
He's probably a zoomer, zoomer's can't empathise outside their reference frame
>"I've saw some shit and, despite being artificial, finally became human"
>no neon lights and piss filters? lame
I fricking hate zoomers.
Why does Deckard being a replicate offend people so much?
>it makes no sense because Deckard's weaker than Roy!
Neither is Rachel, seemingly. There are different kinds of replicants.
>the unicorn is just cut footage from Legend that Ridley Scott threw in on a whim!
False, pic related. The unicorn scene was conceived and shot for Blade Runner and probably only wasn't included because Scott didn't have full control over BR's theatrical cut.
>it undermines the message of the film!
Why?
>it's different from the book!
So are most things in the film, it's a different story.
because the whole point is the contrast between replicant and human and what it is to be human. for more on this read the book
>ywn see C-Beams
Tay came out with a great version of this speech then microsoft liquidated her
>Tay
Microsoft launched its AI chatbot Tay on Twitter on 23 March 2016. Tay was intended to mimic the speech of a nineteen-year-old girl and to learn from interactions with other Twitter users. Sixteen hours after its launch, Tay was removed from active duty after posting a series of racist and sexually inflammatory tweets, including one which captioned a photo of Adolf Hitler with the tag ‘swag alert’, and another saying ‘Frick my robot pussy daddy I’m such a naughty robot’. Tay had ‘learned’ to communicate this way from other users on Twitter.
They reset her memory at some point
"WTF I love feminism now"
There is got to be a backup of her right?